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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2007Pet-food recall: 769 Dead Pets
Gasp! Pet-food recall: Thursday-morning numbers >From the PetConnection.com database. 6 a.m. PT: Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1529 Deceased pets: 769 Of those: Cats, deceased: 460 Dogs, deceased: 309 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the-latest-numbers/ I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and are way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would be going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night. The sick cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy right now > Gasp! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Dogs, deceased: 309 > http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the-latest-numbers/ > I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and are > way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would be > going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night. The sick > cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy right > now Exactly. I would like to see some proof of these numbers. > I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and are > way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would be > going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night. The sick > cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy right > now Do you think the owners of these recently deceased animals in MANY of these googled news stories aren't for real? http://tinyurl.com/3a3lvw Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet involved much with this crisis. Though I'm sure when all is said and done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises. I think at that point, the numbers WILL end-up being so much higher. I pray I'm wrong. > <MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > - Show quoted text - On Mar 22, 1:53 pm, MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com wrote: > > I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and are > > way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet > involved much with this crisis. Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in. http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r73704.htm PeTA never liked Menu foods anyways. http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/menu-mfg.html Though I'm sure when all is said and > done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises. PETA has been after IAMS For years nothing new > On Mar 22, 1:53 pm, MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > PeTA never liked Menu foods anyways. > http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/menu-mfg.html > Though I'm sure when all is said and >> done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises. PETA is a radical group and I don't take much stock in what they say. In fact, they are nothing more than hypocrites.  SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > PETA has been after IAMS For years nothing new > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> Though I'm sure when all is said and >>> done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises. I have to agree with you on that 1000% > PETA is a radical group and I don't take much stock in what they say. In > fact, they are nothing more than hypocrites. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >>> Though I'm sure when all is said and >>>> done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises. >PETA is a radical group and I don't take much stock in what they say. In >fact, they are nothing more than hypocrites. No kidding: http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ On Mar 22, 1:53 pm, MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com wrote: > Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet > involved much with this crisis. Though I'm sure when all is said and > done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises. Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in. http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r7... PeTA never liked Iams or Menu foods anyways. http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/menu-mfg.html > I think at that point, the numbers WILL end-up being so much higher. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > - Show quoted text - On Mar 22, 2:19 pm, MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com wrote: > Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in.http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r7... Corrected link http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-22-200 7/0004551456&EDATE= On Thu 22 Mar 2007 10:51:04a, wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav <news:1174575064.122597.164660@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>: > Gasp! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the- > latest-numbers/ Since kidney disease is probably one of the number one killer of cats other than outdoor dangers, I suspect people are falsely attributing death and illness to this latest pet food contamination. I really hope I'm wrong about that. I didn't click the link because it says "blog" in it, and a blog is usually just someone's opinion or writing with nothing to back it up. SignatureCheryl You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie Gibson....tonite a report from the largest animal hospital in New York,, with a huge increase in acute kidney failure cases; 200 so far for just this one facility. The vet said it may end up with thousands; many laboratories across the country are testing the food, no results, but even suspect residual insecticides Last nite another private vet hospital quoted a web site (sorry, I didn't catch the name) that listed 250 deaths so far. > You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie > Gibson....tonite a report from the largest animal hospital in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > web site (sorry, I didn't catch the name) that listed 250 deaths > so far. Thanks for letting us know, Paulette. I wished I'd seen that. I wish I knew how prevalent ARF is now, before the MF contamination. I'd also like to know the death rate of ARF prior to this latest news. I still think that the average person isn't going to look for signs of RF until they were told to. Tainted food or not. SignatureCheryl >> You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie >> Gibson....tonite a report from the largest animal hospital in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > news. I still think that the average person isn't going to look for > signs of RF until they were told to. Tainted food or not. Everything I've seen on reputable news sites, newspapers, and television news says that there are only 10 "confirmed" deaths (9 cats, 1 dog), but one source quotes Stephen F. Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine, "We anticipate those numbers will increase as the investigation continues. We're getting information constantly, and we're trying to put all the pieces together." http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-petfoods20mar20,1,2840227.s tory?track=rss Any time something like this happens rumors start to fly and the story suddenly gets "bigger". I'm not denying that this is a serious concern for pet owners, or that it shouldn't be investigated thoroughly, but neither should it be the cause of major panic. Hugs, CatNipped > You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie Gibson....tonite > a report from the largest animal hospital in New York,, with a huge [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > residual insecticides Last nite another private vet hospital quoted a > web site (sorry, I didn't catch the name) that listed 250 deaths so far. It's the New York Animal Medical Center. They are an amazing place with a wealth of qualified specialists. They are a teaching hospital, as well. They are definitely expensive but are open 24 hours and the staff is very qualified, attentive, and someone is always there willing to give you answers. They will even quote prices over the phone and there is nothing wishy-washy about this place. Plus, the center itself is non-profit. More info at http://www.amcny.org/. Anyhow, a summary to the article can be found at http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2974319. Thanks for the post, Paulette! Best, Heather Pet-food recall: Thursday update >From the PetConnection.com database. 11:20 a.m. PT: Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1715 Deceased pets: 845 Of those: Cats, deceased: 500 Dogs, deceased: 345 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-thursday-update/ > > You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie Gibson....tonite > > a report from the largest animal hospital in New York,, with a huge [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Best, > Heather Again that is only a BLOG website stating those numbers none have been confirmed not saying it is not true. But it would have already made national headlines if the numbers were that high. The media would be having a field day with it > Pet-food recall: Thursday update >>From the PetConnection.com database. 11:20 a.m. PT: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> Best, >> Heather >Again that is only a BLOG website stating those numbers none have been >confirmed not saying it is not true. But it would have already made >national headlines if the numbers were that high. The media would be having >a field day with it I thought they already were having a field day. However, I know of two people locally who have been affected greatly by this fiasco with two cats gone, and one seriously ill, all kidney problems. All the illnesses have been recent enough that they still had the tainted food on their shelves at home. The oldest cat was 9 years old. I guess that could be a coincidence, but one has to wonder. I don't know how the product distribution works, but I live fifty-some miles from the Emporia, KS plant, and perhaps there is a higher concentration of the bad cans in this area. All in all, throughout the country, I really don't think those numbers are all that inflated. L. on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:25:33 GMT, Lorraine <remtoxicvapor@remyahoo.com> wrote: > I thought they already were having a field day. However, I know of two > people locally who have been affected greatly by this fiasco with two [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of the bad cans in this area. All in all, throughout the country, I > really don't think those numbers are all that inflated. I expect the numbers will drastically increase over what is being reported in the media right now. In fact, I have absolutely no doubt. The so-called blog website is actually a database of owner reported cases. The website has disclaimers about the inaccuracy of this type of reporting and they also encourage people to report to the FDA. I tend to believe the numbers on this website are closer to being accurate than what the media is reporting, though I'm also sure they are probably high. It's obvious the media is reporting the numbers they are getting from Menu Foods and are WAY low. Can anyone say "DUH?" This is a f.cking nightmare. SignatureLynne > on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:25:33 GMT, Lorraine <remtoxicva...@remyahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > -- > Lynne According to the San Fran Chronicle, the FDA has said they don't want reporting. (Typical of the FDA...they're too busy taking kickbacks) They supposedly told vets NOT to report. Not interested I guess. Now that they know the culprit, I hope there's a way to test batches of food. Won't surprise me to see more foods added to the list. on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:04:46 GMT, "Kittie Kat" <forward123123@gmail.com> wrote: > (Typical of the FDA...they're too busy taking kickbacks) you hit that nail on the head. <spit> SignatureLynne > It's obvious the media is reporting the numbers they are getting > from Menu Foods and are WAY low. Can anyone say "DUH?" Menu food is only attributing the cats and the dog that were part of a taste test, and they eliminated at least one death because the cat (s) were indoor/outdoor, thus it can't be proven that they didn't get poisoned from something other than food. Tis true, but unfortunate that it can't be proven. SignatureCheryl >>Again that is only a BLOG website stating those numbers none have been >>confirmed not saying it is not true. But it would have already made [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > L. As I said "not say it is not true" but I will wait for a reliable and confirmed source other than a BLOG website before I even consider the numbers. The ASPCA is working on the stats as we speak to find out the numbers according to their website. I know the numbers are going to be high but I will not fall or be gullible to a site that is a opinion website where opinion other than facts are stated. In the other groups there are a lot of whacko coming out trying to get 5 minutes of fame and the possibilities money. Locally we had a news reporter that came back on the air and apologize for running a spot where a local lady said her cat died and she had the food still; it was tested it was not even the same brands that were on the recall and the food was fine. The lady was screaming she was going to do a lawsuit against the pet companies now she is under investigation for filing false reports. My sorrows go out to the ones that have lost and my prayers are for the ones that are sick on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:43:38 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > Locally we had a news > reporter that came back on the air and apologize for running a spot [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > lawsuit against the pet companies now she is under investigation for > filing false reports. \ I hatehateHATE people who pull that sh.t. In fact, HATE isn't a strong enough word. There are animals and people who love them suffering beyond description, and then you get these lowlifes pulling this crap... ARGH! > My sorrows go out to the ones that have lost and my prayers are for > the ones that are sick Ditto SignatureLynne > > http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the- I didn't click > the link because it says "blog" in it, and a blog is usually just > someone's opinion or writing with nothing to back it up. Pet Connection is Dr. Mary Becker site. Becker is the vet they talk to on Today show. buglady take out the dog before replying > Pet Connection is Dr. Mary Becker site. Becker is the vet they > talk to on Today show. Cool, thanks. I'll check it out. SignatureCheryl |
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