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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2007Boycott anyone?
I can't even get through to the number for the recall. It just says circuits overloaded and has since the damn thing began. I'm really pissed off, and I'm wondering if there would be any sense in trying to organize a boycott of any companies that do business with Menu Foods? Why boycott the business it is not there fault IMO the is just plain stupid If you want to boycott you boycott menu foods not their buyers >I can't even get through to the number for the recall. It just says > circuits overloaded and has since the damn thing began. > > I'm really pissed off, and I'm wondering if there would be any sense > in trying to organize a boycott of any companies that do business with > Menu Foods? businesses Damn spell checker > Why boycott the business it is not there fault IMO the is just plain > stupid [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> in trying to organize a boycott of any companies that do business with >> Menu Foods? > businesses Damn spell checker"Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message Spell checker didn't help misuse of "there" (should be "their"). Anyway, I guess I *was* stupid to blindly assume that the "better" companies made their own food. Who knew that Nutro and others got their food from the same place f.cking Wal Mart did? If i wanted Wal Mart cat food, I'd go there. I'll just do my own boycott of Nutro. Not really a boycott, just eyes opened. I guess it's too much to ask to expect companies to do more than order crap food from canada and slap on a label. <snip> > Anyway, I guess I *was* stupid to blindly assume that the "better" > companies made their own food. Who knew that Nutro and others got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I guess it's too much to ask to expect companies to do more than order > crap food from canada and slap on a label. Buy Wellness cat food! I've started a grassroots effort with my family and my mom is now feeding her dogs and cat Wellness. My sister always has. My grandma is going to convert soon. I'm still working on my uncle. Then I'll start global domination (wink)! http://www.omhpet.com/wellness/aboutus_history.html for more information. Even though Iams swears that they have changed their methods of animal testing, I couldn't bring myself to purchase their food. Now I'm extremely proud as I knew there was a reason to hold out. And in regards to animal testing, read this article I heard on the news this morning, http://www.wnbc.com/family/11295196/detail.html?dl=headlineclick. All they did was feed the animals their food and 14%-17.5% died as a result! Not to mention that the suspected culprit is a filler that shouldn't be in pet food in the first place! Argh, sorry, this is so upsetting to me. Wishing your critters the best, Heather I'd choose Blue Buffalo over Wellness any day.  SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Wishing your critters the best, > Heather > I'd choose Blue Buffalo over Wellness any day. <snip> For what reasons? I'm always open to hearing about better nutrition for my little one! Best, Heather Well, it's a great food if your cat has hairball issues. It's also been great for a cat that has had a UTI. The thing about Blue is that there is no corn, wheat or soy in the food, it has cranberries in it for urinary tract health, and it's also on a human grade level. The meats they use in it is the free range stuff, not that hormone injected crap. You can find it at Petsmart. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >> I'd choose Blue Buffalo over Wellness any day. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Best, > Heather > it has cranberries in it for urinary tract > health, Cranberry can be a problem for cats because cranberries can naturally contain high levels of benzoic acid which is not good for cats. The main thing with cats who have urinary tract problems is to feed a food that is condusive to a proper urinary PH level, and feeding a moist diet for good water intake. Here's an article for more on the topic: http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/articles/prevent-cat-uti.shtml?ysmchn=OTH ER&ysmcpn=RSS&ysmcrn=PreventCatUTI&ysmtac=CTX It can? My cats don't have a problem with it. That element and quite a few others have really helped one of my cats that has had a UTI. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >> it has cranberries in it for urinary tract >> health, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/articles/prevent-cat-uti.shtml?ysmchn=OTH ER&ysmcpn=RSS&ysmcrn=PreventCatUTI&ysmtac=CTX > It can? My cats don't have a problem with it. That element and quite a few > others have really helped one of my cats that has had a UTI. I don't think the food has enough cranberry in it to cause any problems. I think it's more about not supplementing with cranberry. This food your feeding may be a good formula that helps your cat achieve the proper urinary PH. Feeding a canned food helps too. > Well, it's a great food if your cat has hairball issues. It's also been > great for a cat that has had a UTI. The thing about Blue is that there is no > corn, wheat or soy in the food, it has cranberries in it for urinary tract > health, and it's also on a human grade level. The meats they use in it is > the free range stuff, not that hormone injected crap. You can find it at > Petsmart. <snippety snip> Well I've just compared the ingredients. I don't really see why your choice is Blue Buffalo, other than for the hairball formula. My cat doesn't have hairball issues (knock on wood). Both formulas contain cranberries to aid/prevent UTI. I don't believe that there is any corn, wheat or soy in the Wellness food. My cat only pretty much just gets canned food and there are a few formulas of Wellness canned food that have brown rice, but all the labels do clearly mark this now. Anyhow, Blue Buffalo does have whole ingredients. I shall pick up a can in the next day or two and see if Mack C. likes it more. Whatever his preference as long as it's good quality stuff, I don't mind! Thanks for the info, Heather I already explained why I chose Blue for my cats. Here is the ingredients in Wellness so you can see exactly why I chose Blue. Wellness ingredients: Chicken Meal, Ground Yellow Corn, Lamb Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols - healthy antioxidants - and ascorbic acid), Ground Whole Wheat, dried brewer's yeast, fish meal, corn germ meal, salt, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), dehydrated cheese, lecithin, D-activated animal sterol (source of Vitamin D-3), Vitamin A acetate, Vitamin B12 supplement, Vitamin E supplement, niacin supplement, riboflavin, calcium pantothenate, choline chloride, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, biotin, thiamine mononitrate, inositol, DL-Methionine, manganese, dehydrated kelp, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, cobalt sulfate, ferrous sulfate, taurine, calcium iodate, sodium selenite, and dried whey. It seems apparently obvious that Wellness has a lot of fillers and meals without any real meat substance at all. Here is Blue's. You'll notice the first ingredient is actually deboned chicken in their Indoor formula for example. Here are the ingredients for that bag. Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Fish Meal, Whole Ground Barley, Potato Flour, Oatmeal, Natural Flavor, Dried Cellulose, Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Fructooligosacharides, Cranberries, Whole Ground Sweet Potatoes, Whole Ground Carrots, Psyllium Calcium Chloride, Sea Salt, Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Ground Flaxseed, Yucca Shidigera Extract, Dried Kelp, Dried Molasses, Malted Barley Flour, Taurine, Barley Grass, Dried Parsley, Mixed Tocopherols, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Zinc), Iron Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Iron), L-Carnitine, Spirulina, Lecithin, Tumeric, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Enterococcus Faecium, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum, Niacin, Copper Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Copper), Vitamin D Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamin Hydrochloride, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Sodium Selenite, Folic Acid, Vitamin K Supplement, Biotin. The first 4 ingredients of any food will tell you a lot about it. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > > Well I've just compared the ingredients. I don't really see why your [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks for the info, > Heather > I already explained why I chose Blue for my cats. Here is the ingredients in > Wellness so you can see exactly why I chose Blue. Wellness ingredients: <snip> > It seems apparently obvious that Wellness has a lot of fillers and meals > without any real meat substance at all. Here is Blue's. You'll notice the > first ingredient is actually deboned chicken in their Indoor formula for > example. Here are the ingredients for that bag. <snip> Yes, you did explain, but I was asking for a little more. I realize now that you are referencing dry food, while I'm referring to canned food... Compare Blue's first four ingredients of their Turkey formula: Deboned Turkey, Deboned Chicken, Chicken Broth, Chicken Liver. To Wellness' first four ingredients of their Turkey formula: Deboned Turkey, Chicken Liver, Deboned Chicken, Turkey Broth. I didn't do any research on the dry formula as it is not an option for Mack C. Oh, by the way, finally put more pictures up! --> http://picasaweb.google.com/zinzee/MackCMillion All the best, Heather I couldn't find canned food anywhere on their site. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >> I already explained why I chose Blue for my cats. Here is the ingredients >> in [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > All the best, > Heather > I couldn't find canned food anywhere on their site. <snip> http://www.omhpet.com/wellness/cat_wellness_can_index.html and more specifically http://www.omhpet.com/wellness/cat_wellness_can_turkey.html. There is also an index that explains all of their ingredients they use, including the Chicken Meal. Anyhow, I will definitely try the Blue Buffalo. If Mack C. likes it better I see no reason not to switch. Well, except Taurine is the last ingredient on their list. I suppose there's still adequate amounts. I'm thinking about adding a multi-vitamin. Best, Heather Taurine isn't exactly the most important element in a cat food. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >> I couldn't find canned food anywhere on their site. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Best, > Heather >>Taurine isn't exactly the most important >> element in a cat food. WRONG!!!! Taurine IS the most important ingredient in cat food (although it may not represent the most volume). If you can't post accurate information then you should stop posting. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') on Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:26:14 GMT, twinmountain@webtv.net (---MIKE---) wrote: >>>Taurine isn't exactly the most important >>> element in a cat food. > > WRONG!!!! Taurine IS the most important ingredient in cat food > (although it may not represent the most volume). If you can't post > accurate information then you should stop posting. Yeah, I gotta agree here. Taurine is definitely ESSENTIAL for cats and people need to realize this. The lack of taurine is one of the primary reasons why feeding canned tuna and other human foods to cats as any significant part of their diet can be DEADLY. SignatureLynne > on Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:26:14 GMT, twinmount...@webtv.net (---MIKE---) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > Lynne Usually I leave CP alone in his little world, but I can't stand misinformation being posted, especially in such an authoritative tone. Taurine is *extremely* important to a cat's diet. My opinion is that a diet of strictly dry food is NOT as healthy as tinned food. If you do a search, you'll find that Cat Protector sang the praises of Friskies and Special Kitty a while back. No other brand even compared, according to him. That's fine, that's his opinion & he's entitled to it I suppose. I just don't want anyone taking his word as the authority figure on all things cat food. Blue Buffalo is probably pretty good food, all things considered. But I'd sure be feeding some canned food with it. Sherry > My opinion is that a diet of strictly dry food is NOT as healthy as > tinned food. Your opinion is in agreement with experts in cat nutrition, but let's not confuse CP with facts. :) SignatureLynne I have to wonder how taking pot shots at me is going to solve anything. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Your opinion is in agreement with experts in cat nutrition, but let's not > confuse CP with facts. :) <snip> > Usually I leave CP alone in his little world, but I can't stand > misinformation being posted, especially in such an authoritative tone. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Sherry Sherry, thanks for the advice! I noticed he got a little snippy with me but I didn't want to start a flame war. As I'm sure you know, I'm new to this group so I didn't know his Friskies history!! Anyhow, it all worked out because in my mind I thought we had a Pets Mart in Union Square. I went down there last night and it was PETCO, hah! In 3+ aisles of canned food didn't find a single brand I would want to offer my cat. I also tried searching the Blue Buffalo web site for stores that carried their food. It turns out the few on their list within five miles of me didn't even carry it (five miles is a long way speaking in no car NYC terms)! Not even the holistic pet store we have in the East Village carries it. Anyhow, I'm going to go check out that store because it's probably only something NYC and LA would have, might as well take advantage. They also might have some good recommendations for vets as I'm shopping around right now. All the best, Heather Once again and I state..... I never said Taurine wasn't important, I said that although taurine is important in a feline diet, getting your cat on a good healthy regement is the most important part. Taurine is only one factor in the whole entire diet but there are other elements that also come into play. I guess no matter what you post in this group, if you aren't with the in crowd or you don't follow a certain standard of posting then you are jumped on by other people. I remember when this group got started and it was somewhat of a peaceful place, now we get people who instead of asking you to explain what you mean, you're called names, told never to post again, or to simply just shut up and not post. Very sad. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > All the best, > Heather :Taurine isn't exactly the most important element in a cat food." Your own words Now say you were wrong, shut up about it and move on. Very simple not a big deal The others that come here do that when they are wrong why are you having such a problem; that was not a invitation to respond. > Once again and I state..... I never said Taurine wasn't important, I said > that although taurine is [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >> All the best, >> Heather I also explained why I said what I said but apparently people such as yourself don't want to listen to me explain why I said what I said. For the final and last time I say that although taurine is important, a good healthy diet is the main important ingredient in a cat's health and well being. Instead of hearing that part you are all tuning it out and turning it into a chance to pick on someone else. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > :Taurine isn't exactly the most important element in a cat food." > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>> All the best, >>> Heather > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > All the best, > Heather Ha! I have the same problem--only it's because I live in a little town. If you can even call it a town. We're driving 54 miles to Petsmart once a month. You can imagine how the cart is loaded with food & litter. Invariably, the clerk will say "HOW MANY CATS DO YOU HAVE??" I have to explain every time. I tried Petfooddirect.com. They have good sales, which usually cancels out shipping costs. But UPS left the package at the wrong house, it took four days for them to find it. By then I was out of cat food, and the only thing the store here carries is...."Chef's Blend". These poor spoiled cats looked at me like "You've got to be joking." Blue Buffalo is in Petsmart right now in these little $1 trial sized bags. I bought them one for kicks. They seemed to like it. They don't like the Blue Buffalo (actually I think the name is "Spa Select") canned though. It's a mushy texture, and I think that's what they don't like. If your kitties already like Wellness canned, they'd probably like BB Spa Select. The texture is a lot the same. Sherry Sherry Sherry I have to wonder about the people in this group. Why is it do people have to be this rude when they find an answer they don't like? Although taurine is important in a feline diet, getting your cat on a good healthy regement is the most important part. This is what I was trying to say. You could've been a lot more nicer about it but instead you seem to have this "shut the hell up attitude." This is one of the reasons why some people avoid this group. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com Cat Protector wrote: >>Taurine isn't exactly the most important >> element in a cat food. WRONG!!!! Taurine IS the most important ingredient in cat food (although it may not represent the most volume). If you can't post accurate information then you should stop posting. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') >I have to wonder about the people in this group. Why is it do people have >to be this rude when they find an answer they don't like? Although taurine [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >hell up attitude." This is one of the reasons why some people avoid this >group. Than leave and don't come back if you don't like it on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:22:52 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > Than leave and don't come back if you don't like it You forgot to say please! SignatureLynne TIME FOR YOU TO COME BACK TO SOMETHING CALLED EARTH. You should do a lot more research before you put your foot in your mouth > Taurine isn't exactly the most important element in a cat food. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Best, >> Heather on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:31:33 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > TIME FOR YOU TO COME BACK TO SOMETHING CALLED EARTH. > > You should do a lot more research before you put your foot in your mouth Yeah, and if this guy pitches Blue effing Buffalo one more time I'm killfiling him. SignatureLynne of little patience Go ahead and killfile me. It seems obvious that unless you run with the rest of the group then you are labled the bad guy. Why is it that many of you insist on starting flame wars in order to prove how superior you are? Flame wars solve nothing. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Yeah, and if this guy pitches Blue effing Buffalo one more time I'm > killfiling him. No flame war need WHEN YOU ARE WRONG YOU ARE WRONG! YOU GOT PROVEN WRONG! Say you are sorry, move on and shut up about it > Go ahead and killfile me. It seems obvious that unless you run with the > rest of the group then you are labled the bad guy. Why is it that many of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Yeah, and if this guy pitches Blue effing Buffalo one more time I'm >> killfiling him. I cleared up what I was trying to say, you don't need to be rude about it. Perhaps you have a little growing up to do. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > No flame war need WHEN YOU ARE WRONG YOU ARE WRONG! YOU GOT PROVEN WRONG! > Say you are sorry, move on and shut up about it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> Yeah, and if this guy pitches Blue effing Buffalo one more time I'm >>> killfiling him. Typical response when someone is proven wrong. Try something new >I cleared up what I was trying to say, you don't need to be rude about it. >Perhaps you have a little growing up to do. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>>> Yeah, and if this guy pitches Blue effing Buffalo one more time I'm >>>> killfiling him. I bet you don't hear the word screw you that often or do you? You'd think people in this group could act like adults but apparently that doesn't seem to be the case. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Typical response when someone is proven wrong. Try something new > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>>>> Yeah, and if this guy pitches Blue effing Buffalo one more time I'm >>>>> killfiling him. Now who needs to grow up. Poor child you fall into the pathetic category of keep on trying to come up with something original. < snipped for being stupid> on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:32:21 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote: > I bet you don't hear the word screw you that often or do you? You'd > think people in this group could act like adults but apparently that > doesn't seem to be the case. waah waah waah Apparently you haven't been around Usenet very long. SignatureLynne I've been around this group way longer than a lot of you have. It's a shame that those like yourself have to ruin it by picking on people. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > waah waah waah > > Apparently you haven't been around Usenet very long. Brandy the has been porn star was around for years and she was worthless. Being here longer means jack sh@t > I've been around this group way longer than a lot of you have. It's a > shame that those like yourself have to ruin it by picking on people. > >> waah waah waah >> >> Apparently you haven't been around Usenet very long. > Go ahead and killfile me. It seems obvious that unless you run with the rest > of the group then you are labled the bad guy. Why is it that many of you > insist on starting flame wars in order to prove how superior you are? Flame > wars solve nothing. > > -- They always seem to make you run the f.ck away from me, now don't they, sissy-boy...?! LOL...!!! Pansy-azzed little fairy.. You never could stand up to a fight. Just like you're showing your back-side to THESE people now. Weaklings like you always fail. Never get any respect, either.. IBen Getiner on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:30:13 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote: > Go ahead and killfile me. It seems obvious that unless you run with > the rest of the group then you are labled the bad guy. Why is it that > many of you insist on starting flame wars in order to prove how > superior you are? Flame wars solve nothing. Uh, I have a right to my opinion and couldn't give a rat's a.s if anyone else agrees with me. My opinion, BTW, is that you are irritating as hell. Add that to the FACT that you post inaccurate information, and my conclusion is that you add NO VALUE to my experience here. What's worse is that you could be dangerous for some poor n00b reading your BS. SignatureLynne I've been in this group longer than you have and I'd say I'm pretty experienced in the world of cats. I could list all of them but it probably wouldn't do you any good. The list doesn't include pictures. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Uh, I have a right to my opinion and couldn't give a rat's a.s if anyone > else agrees with me. My opinion, BTW, is that you are irritating as hell. > Add that to the FACT that you post inaccurate information, and my > conclusion is that you add NO VALUE to my experience here. What's worse > is > that you could be dangerous for some poor n00b reading your BS. on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:34:32 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote: > I've been in this group longer than you have and I'd say I'm pretty > experienced in the world of cats. I could list all of them but it > probably wouldn't do you any good. The list doesn't include pictures. Oh how cute. If you're pretty experienced in the world of cats, it's not evident in your posts. I'm just sayin'. SignatureLynne This is such crap. I guess if being a part of your in crowd is the thing nowadays then I'm glad I walk the halls alone. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:34:32 GMT, "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm just sayin'. > This is such crap. I guess if being a part of your in crowd is the thing > nowadays then I'm glad I walk the halls alone. ROFLMAO what a joke on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:28:54 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > ROFLMAO what a joke Especially considering I've butted heads with pretty much everyone here. LOFL. SignatureLynne Tease me girl ;-) thank sounded kinky < evil grin > > on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:28:54 GMT, "Matthew" > <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Especially considering I've butted heads with pretty much everyone here. > LOFL. on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:20:46 GMT, "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote: > Tease me girl ;-) thank sounded kinky > > < evil grin > Hehe. What's funny is that I clipped the kinky part before sending! Think acronym: Clueless Usenet Morons. SignatureLynne TEASE ME I LOVE IT ;-) > on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:20:46 GMT, "Matthew" > <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Think acronym: Clueless Usenet Morons. I don't know where Cat Protector got his ingredient list for Wellness but it is not correct. This is right off of the can label for the chicken formula. Chicken, Chicken Liver, Turkey, Chicken Broth, Sweet Potatoes, Carrots, Natural Chicken Flavor, etc. There is no meal, wheat, corn or by-products. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') Ok. It appears after looking it up, there were two brands of Wellness food and the one I posted was by Flint River Ranch. I've never used the Wellness Brand myself but I apologize for the confusion. Before anyone decides to name-call I remind you that nobody is perfect. I called Wellness yesterday. They said that Menu does can their food for them but they (Wellness) provide the ingredients. They were easy to get ahold of and forthright in their answers. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') Did you know that Wellness wet foods are made at Menu Foods? Since there's still no proof Wheat Gluten is the culprit, I wouldn't jump on any bandwagons just yet. http://petsitusa.com/blog/?p=208 Btw ALL P&G (Iams, Eukanuba, etc) wet foods have now been recalled too! http://www.pg.com/homepage_announcements.jhtml?document=/consumer/consumer_homep age_iams_euk_recall.xml > Buy Wellness cat food! I've started a grassroots effort with my > family and my mom is now feeding her dogs and cat Wellness. My sister [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Wishing your critters the best, > Heather On Mar 22, 12:05 pm, MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com wrote: > Did you know that Wellness wet foods are made at Menu Foods? Since > there's still no proof Wheat Gluten is the culprit, I wouldn't jump on > any bandwagons just yet.http://petsitusa.com/blog/?p=208 New Link http://petsitusa.com/blog/?p=210 On Mar 22, 12:18 pm, MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Mar 22, 12:05 pm, MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > New Linkhttp://petsitusa.com/blog/?p=210 Oh no! I really don't want to support this company. What food would you recommend? > Oh no! I really don't want to support this company. What food would > you recommend? I've been feeding my cats Innova Evo for several months, wet and dry (my 3 year old isn't too keen on the wet, but I'm working on that). I'm VERY pleased with how well they are doing on this food. I order it from petfood direct.com, but my local health food store also carries it so I buy it there sometimes (it's just not very close geographically, so ordering it is just as convenient). I switched my dog over to Wellness last month and I'm NOT happy with it. The dog food (dry) at least has a lot of fillers and her poops are GINORMOUS. We're switching again to either California Natural (same company as Innova Evo) or Candidae. I'm waiting on a CN sample for her. I'm not sure if the Wellness cat foods have excess fillers like their dog foods do, so take that FWIW. SignatureLynne on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:59:34 GMT, Lynne <unmonitored.email@gmail.com> wrote: > Candidae sorry, Canidae SignatureLynne > on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:59:34 GMT, Lynne <unmonitored.em...@gmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Lynne Sorry, forgot to mention they don't have any profuct made my Menu Foods (both Canidae and Felidae). > > Oh no! I really don't want to support this company. What food would > > you recommend? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > Lynne Hi, Lynne. Thanks for the input. Little Mack C. is pretty much on wet food and Natura Pet Products (they make Innova and Evo) does have their "Wet foods made by Menu Foods but not involved in the recall." (http://petsitusa.com/blog/?p=210) I'm sure the food is safe but I'm hoping to not support this company anymore (I didn't actually know I had been!). Thanks for the input though! Best, Heather > Hi, Lynne. Thanks for the input. Little Mack C. is pretty much on > wet food and Natura Pet Products (they make Innova and Evo) does have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks for the input though! Well holy crap, I had no idea that Innova was using Menu Foods. This is troubling to me. Very, very troubling... Thanks for posting that. Even if I don't like the information, I prefer the facts. I really don't want to support Menu Foods after this, either, so I can only hope that Natura Pet Products dissolves their relationship with them. SignatureLynne > On Mar 22, 12:18 pm, MikeEisenf...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Oh no! I really don't want to support this company. What food would > you recommend? There are several brands listed on that link that appear to be safe. If you have a Whole Foods Market near you, they carry petfood, brands like Petguard, Nature''s Variety and Newman's that I do not believe are supplied by Menu Foods. on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:03:40 GMT, "PawsForThought" <mickey4paws@gmail.com> wrote: > Newman's I'm curious if anyone here has tried Newmans for their cats (or dogs)? I like Newman's people food products a lot, but haven't really heard any feedback one way or the other on their pet foods. SignatureLynne > on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:03:40 GMT, "PawsForThought" > <mickey4paws@gmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > any > feedback one way or the other on their pet foods. I tried it, my cats weren't interested, but they're resistant to new foods. Given this recall, I might try a few cans of Newsman's again. I've been putting down California Natural dry for probably a year, and it's only been in the last couple of months that it started disappearing faster than the Science Diet Original, which they previously preferred. Now they hardly touch the SD. They also seem to like Chicken Soup which I've only recently started offering. Gail F. On Thu 22 Mar 2007 08:00:07p, Gail Futoran wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav <news:bMEMh.173910$5j1.88894@bgtnsc04- news.ops.worldnet.att.net>: > I tried it, my cats weren't interested, but > they're resistant to new foods. Given > this recall, I might try a few cans of > Newsman's again. Mine ate some flavor of Newman's but I can't remember which. Since I never took in mind a problem with a contaminate, I never thought about having to remember what they eat, and when. > I've been putting down California Natural > dry for probably a year, and it's only been [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > They also seem to like Chicken Soup > which I've only recently started offering. My dry food eaters love CA Natural. I also feed SD to one of my cats, but he is outgrowing his need for the Sensitive Stomach formula dry that he eats. He hasn't had a gastrointestinal problem for while now; I just didn't want to mess with success. SignatureCheryl > Why boycott the business it is not there fault IMO the is just plain > stupid [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> in trying to organize a boycott of any companies that do business with >> Menu Foods? Often it IS their fault. Businesses often choose their suppliers on cost. I run a small business and my customers care less where I get my stock. They care only for the cost and quality. If I have a problem with quality caused buy the supplier, to my customer, it is my problem. It is my responsibility to correct the problem for the customer and request the supplier correct the problem on their end. As I understand it, Menu Foods switched suppliers for the ingredient that apparently had mold in it. I don't know their procedure, but multiple samples of the food product and ingredients should be sampled often to check for quality and possible contaminates. Apparently this testing has not be done or is inadequate since many people's beloved pets have died or became ill. It is Menu Food responsibility to deal with that supplier and use better test methods to prevent this issue from reoccuring in the future. It is the responsibility of the pet food companies, such as IAMS, to test their own product and to deal with their supplier. John > If you want to boycott you boycott menu foods not their buyers You have to boycott in layers. Start with the suppliers and demand they stop selling repackaged MF products. JG Signature"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum." - Lucretius |
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