Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2007
More information on pet food recall (detailed brand names)
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MaryL - 19 Mar 2007 00:45 GMT Flippy just posted this information on rpca. I thought some of the readers on this NG would be interested because it provides far more information than the official Menu Foods web site.
Here is what Flippy wrote ...
This 15-page PDF file lists every specific recalled food of each brand including description, best by & production dates, product & UPC codes. http://www.jmlamoreux.com/message/total.pdf
The information was collated by the owner of a CRF website.
-- MaryL
BarB - 20 Mar 2007 02:33 GMT
>This 15-page PDF file lists every specific recalled food of each brand >including description, best by & production dates, product & UPC codes. >http://www.jmlamoreux.com/message/total.pdf > >The information was collated by the owner of a CRF website. Could you point me to the original CRF website? I can't read this fine print. Perhaps someone can tell me how to expand it.
I do have some additional info from another list from someone who did manage to get through to the phone lines at Menu Foods.
She spoke to an individual who works for an external company brought in to help them deal with all the calls. He said that the list may not be complete yet, their investigations are ongoing and it is possible that additional foods or batches may be added to the list. They hope they have got them all by now but they cannot guarantee it. He asked that anybody feeding a different batch food who thinks their cat is affected should contact them ASAP. At the moment, they still suspect the gluten from the new supplier as the source of the problem. It has only occurred in foods containing this gluten, and only in foods containing gluten provided by this new supplier. They still do not know the exact toxin but again, they are working on it.
There are a lot of sick cats and dogs,and there may be far more deaths than initially thought. At the moment it appears to me that Menu Foods is acting responsibly. We will see. Even if the ingredient coming from their supplier was bad, it was Menu Foods responsibility to have quality control procedures in place to detect it.
BarB
Lynne - 20 Mar 2007 02:56 GMT > At the moment it appears to me that > Menu Foods is acting responsibly. We will see. I disagree. They haven't been keeping their website updated quickly enough. CNN reported additional brands before they showed up on Menu Food's website, with as much as a full day of lag. This is unconscionable to me.
> Even if the > ingredient coming from their supplier was bad, it was Menu Foods > responsibility to have quality control procedures in place to detect > it. Isn't Menu Foods the supplier of the bad ingredient? I do agree that the companies who used their product should have testing procedures in place. Pet food is more profitable than human food. Now I understand why... cutting corners saves money.
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Cheryl - 20 Mar 2007 03:08 GMT > Isn't Menu Foods the supplier of the bad ingredient? I do agree > that the companies who used their product should have testing > procedures in place. Pet food is more profitable than human > food. Now I understand why... cutting corners saves money. Gosh, Lynne, you're my target tonight! LOL Just kidding. Just the posts that stand out to me.
Menu Foods isn't the supplier of the tainted wheat gluten, if that's what it turns out to be, which is what they're now thinking. Menu Foods bought the ingredient from a supplier, which supplied the same ingredient to others, like Hills and P&G. That's what's so scary; what other food manufacturer bought this ingredient from the same supplier? Do they know yet? If they know, have they disclosed it yet? It seems that the production of pet food must be like any other industry -- they buy ingredients like some companies buy parts. They buy meat by-products from one supplier, wheat or corn gluten from another, vitamin supplements from yet another. It must be hard to put all of the puzzle pieces together when there's a problem like this one. Couple that with the fact that store brand pet food isn't even all manufactured by the same company. That's why the batch numbers are so important.
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Lynne - 20 Mar 2007 03:18 GMT on Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:08:08 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
> Gosh, Lynne, you're my target tonight! LOL Just kidding. Just the > posts that stand out to me. Well since I'm all frazzled about the lost kitten, I'm on a posting frenzy and welcome the replies!
> Menu Foods isn't the supplier of the tainted wheat gluten, if > that's what it turns out to be, which is what they're now thinking. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > brand pet food isn't even all manufactured by the same company. > That's why the batch numbers are so important. Ah, okay. I thought Menu Foods was the supplier of the bad wheat gluten to the food manufactueres. So crap, then it's even scarier than I thought!
What about dry foods? Why aren't they impacted? I have this nagging fear in the back of my mind that they will announce that dry foods are also a problem... Probably just paranoia, but I'm still concerned.
 Signature Lynne
Cheryl - 20 Mar 2007 03:38 GMT > What about dry foods? Why aren't they impacted? I have this > nagging fear in the back of my mind that they will announce that > dry foods are also a problem... Probably just paranoia, but I'm > still concerned. Same here. I read an article that I don't even want to post here. Some of what is being reported is started to verge on media panic. They do have a way of inducing it. What everyone needs to do is monitor their pets health. There are specific symptoms; some animals might be more suceptible than others, as all bodies are different in how they metabolize foods or toxins. Vomiting and lethargy should be red flag signs. There should be no "I can't afford the vet right now" excuses. I don't know how a vet can test for this latest tainted food issue, but if there are multiple pets in the house, I wouldn't wait for more than one of them to have symptoms before I acted.
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Lynne - 20 Mar 2007 03:49 GMT on Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:38:53 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
> Same here. I read an article that I don't even want to post here. > Some of what is being reported is started to verge on media panic. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > in the house, I wouldn't wait for more than one of them to have > symptoms before I acted. That's the best advice possible for this situation.
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~ narnia ~ - 20 Mar 2007 03:44 GMT >on Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:08:08 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >fear in the back of my mind that they will announce that dry foods are >also a problem... Probably just paranoia, but I'm still concerned. Petfooddirect.com has this on their website regarding dry foods:
Iams and Eukanuba "dry" products are not manufactured at Menu Foods and not affected by this issue.
~ narnia ~
Cat Protector - 20 Mar 2007 04:41 GMT Iams and Eukanuba from what I understand pulled their foods as a precaution.
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>>on Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:08:08 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > ~ narnia ~ Gail Futoran - 20 Mar 2007 15:15 GMT > Iams and Eukanuba from what I understand pulled their foods as a > precaution. Only their canned and pouch foods, and not all varieties (unless something has changed since yesterday).
Unfortunately, my kittens' favorite kitten canned food is on the recalled list, and I have 8 cans that are within the recalled code.
Fortunately, my kittens and cats get a variety of canned and dry foods, and seem to be unaffected by any exposure they might have had to the suspect ingredient(s).
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Cat Protector - 20 Mar 2007 04:33 GMT I think a lot of people are being a bit frantic right now regarding the recall. I think plenty of vets are getting calls from worried humans whose cats may or may not have eaten the affected foods. The food my cats get Blue Buffalo isn't on the recall list and they aren't affiliated with Menu Foods which is the distributor to many of the brands listed. I think the interesting side effect to this whole mess is people will start reading ingredients and really look at the healthier brands.
Blue Buffalo is probably the healthiest food I've seen next to actually cooking it yourself. There's no corn, wheat or soy and the food is on a human grade level. The meats they use is the free range stuff so it isn't injected with hormones and best of all the cat food actually has cranberries in it for the urinary tract health. I switched to it because one of my cats had a UTI while another had weight and hairball issues. It's certainly helped in those situations and at least my cats are eating healthy.
I think this incident is probably going to convince people to finally look at other brands they wouldn't otherwise give a second glance to. I'm sure it won't hurt their profits.
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> on Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:08:08 GMT, Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > fear in the back of my mind that they will announce that dry foods are > also a problem... Probably just paranoia, but I'm still concerned. MaryL - 20 Mar 2007 03:54 GMT >>This 15-page PDF file lists every specific recalled food of each brand >>including description, best by & production dates, product & UPC codes. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > BarB I really don't think Menu Foods has been acting responsibly. They delayed several days making the report public, and their list is woefully inadequate. By contrast, the list at the site I posted is 15 pages in length and includes batch numbers and other information.
When you view the list of recalled foods onscreen, you will be using Adobe Reader. Go to the top of the screen and look for the zoom tool. It will look like a magnifying glass with a "plus" sign in the center. Click on that, then go to the page you want to read and click on that. Each click will increase the font size until you get it to the size you prefer. You can do the same thing by looking at the box (top of screen) that shows a percentage. Use the plus or minus signs to to increase or decrease the font size.
MaryL
zinzee - 20 Mar 2007 18:35 GMT <snip>
> I do have some additional info from another list from someone who > did manage to get through to the phone lines at Menu Foods. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > possible that additional foods or batches may be added to the list. > They hope they have got them all by now but they cannot guarantee it. <snip>
> BarB Yes, apparently they have opened new phone lines as of yesterday. However, "The FDA is asking those with sick or dead pets to call FDA state complaint coordinators." (wnbc.com)
Individual state and US Territory numbers are below:
FDA's Consumer Complaint Coordinators
To report adverse reactions or other problems with FDA-regulated products, contact the FDA district office consumer complaint coordinator for your geographic area.
Alabama--866-289-3399 Alaska--(425) 483-4949 Arizona--(949) 608-3530 Arkansas--(214) 253-5200, ext. 5233 California (Northern)--(510) 337-6741 California (Southern)--(949) 608-3530 Colorado--(303) 236-3044 Connecticut--(781) 596-7700 Delaware--(215) 597-9064 District of Columbia--(410) 779-5713 Florida -- (866) 337-6272 Georgia--(404) 253-1169 Hawaii--(510) 337-6741 Idaho--(425) 483-4949 Illinois--(312) 353-7840 Indiana--(313) 393-8100 Iowa--(913) 752-2440 Kansas--(913) 752-2440 Kentucky--(513) 679-2700, ext. 124 Louisiana--866-289-3399 Maine--(781) 596-7700 Maryland--(410) 779-5713 Massachusetts--(781) 596-7700 Michigan--(313) 393-8100 Minnesota--(612) 758-7221 Mississippi--866-289-3399 Missouri--(913) 752-2440 Montana--(425) 483-4949 Nebraska--(913) 752-2440 Nevada--(510) 337-6741 New Hampshire--(781) 596-7700 New Jersey-- (973) 331-4917 New Mexico--(303) 236-3044 New York -- (718) 340-7000 ext 5588 North Carolina--(404) 253-1169 North Dakota--(612) 758-7221 Ohio--(513) 679-2700, ext. 124 Oklahoma--(214) 253-5200, ext. 5233 Oregon--(425) 483-4949 Pennsylvania--(215) 597-9064 Rhode Island--(781) 596-7700 South Carolina--(404) 253-1169 South Dakota--(612) 758-7221 Tennessee-- 866-289-3399 Texas--(214) 253-5200 ext. 5233 Utah--(303) 236-3044 Vermont--(781) 596-7700 Virginia--(410) 779-5713 Washington--(425) 483-4949 West Virginia--(410) 779-5713 Wisconsin--(612) 758-7221 Wyoming--(303) 236-3044 Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands--800-332-0127
cindys - 21 Mar 2007 13:18 GMT >>This 15-page PDF file lists every specific recalled food of each brand >>including description, best by & production dates, product & UPC codes. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Could you point me to the original CRF website? I can't read this > fine print. Perhaps someone can tell me how to expand it. ---------- On the toolbar, there's a number with a percent sign (%) following it. Click onto that and pick a larger number. Best regards, ---Cindy S.
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