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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2007Tiggy only has a few days left until her kittens arrive
Those of you who know me, will remember that we decided to give up breeding. We had our Toms neutered & we scheduled to have 2 of the girls done, but our previous vet went out on an emergency call, so we didn't manage to get both Lilly & Tiggy spayed on the day that we hoped to. Things went from bad to worse 4 days later, when Lilly had to be admitted for Pyometra, & ended up having emergency surgery to remove her womb, but instead of costing me £20 (with vouchers from the Cat Protection League, It cost me slightly over £400 in the end because it was an emergency operation ($800ish). Straight after that operation, Lilly contracted Fvc (Flu!!) & all of our faithful feline friends ended up with a dose of it too,even though they were vaccinated against feline flu! we had to find a new vet that did offer 24/7 care, that Lilly didn't receive during her stay @ the previous veterinary surgery. It ended up costing us what we believed at the time to be our last litter of 4 kittens, to fading kitten syndrome. Belle was spayed a week after her kittens died ,which was very emotional for us all here. A few days after loosing Belle's babes, we realised that Tiggy, the seal Tabby Point was rather podgy (Guttuss maximus)..& found out that she was indeed pregnant, & that she was nearly 7 weeks pregnant. So we took her to the new Veterinary surgery, where we were advised to see if we could find someone to have Tiggy during her confinement, & also for the first 12 weeks of her kittens lives too, because of the fear that she might also contract Fcv, & either abort her litter, or we stood the chance of loosing her kittens as well!! An unthinkable tragedy as you can imagine. We did a bit of ringing around, & managed to find a friend who also does a bit of active work for the Cat Protection League, & was willing to have Tiggy for that length of rime, & then we moved her over to Karen's place the following day, & she has been there ever since. I get to see her most day's via web cam, but it is not quite the same as cuddling her as I am sure that you can understand.. But this isn't all about me, it is for Tiggy's & her kittens welfare... However, today I went to see her, so it meant having to scrub down thoroughly & spray my hands with hibiscrub as well as dipping my shoes in Sporal D too.. but it was worth it just to spend an hour with her, purring her little head off, having head rubs, leg weaves & lots of ear rubs too... we even had a very short walk top the meadow for 5 minutes, & she had a nice chew on the grass before we turned back, then I took her back to her comfortable radiator sheepskin bed, which has been especially lowered so that she can hop into it without having to jump - Wonderful;o) I calculate that she will be due in the following 5ish days...I can't help but be concerned for her, when you consider what our feline family have all been through. Tiggy was the only cat that didn't contract the virus, so we remain quite optimistic that she won't develop it, because the incubatory period is over now. I remain vigilant as ever, as Karen does too.. but you can't help that tiny nagging doubt after all that bad luck. As soon as we know that she has had her kittens, I will let you all know how she got on & also how many babes she had as well. I took a photo of her this morning to share with you all. http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sheelaghmadden/Tiggy89WeeksPregnant More news as we have it S;o) > Those of you who know me, will remember that we decided to give up > breeding. We had our Toms neutered & we scheduled to have 2 of the [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > More news as we have it > S;o) Tiggy is beautiful! We are sending purrs for a safe delivery and happy, healthy babes. MLB > Those of you who know me, will remember that we decided to give up > breeding. We had our Toms neutered & we scheduled to have 2 of the [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > More news as we have it > S;o) she is so beautiful, and those eyes are gorgeous too! fingers crossed it all goes well, she is an angel in furry form bookie > > Those of you who know me, will remember that we decided to give up > > breeding. We had our Toms neutered & we scheduled to have 2 of the [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Tiggy is beautiful! We are sending purrs for a safe delivery and happy, healthy babes. MLB My thanks to you both.. I know that her being a Birman & my being an ex breeder isn't everyone's taste, but she is my babe all the same & I love her. As long as we can get her through this with healthy kitty's, then it will have all been worth it. No idea how many kit's she might be expecting, but I have 4definate homes ready & waiting for them, one of them being my daughter Katie ( her 21st Birthday gift from us & Tiggy too) Katie has just been accepted @ both Manchester & Warwick to do her MA. I am so proud of her too. There were 33 applicants & only 3 placements, she was accepted @ both!!;o) She is taking Warwick though. It was wonderful to spend time with Tigg's today, & very soothing for the soul. She loved the walk, & I enjoyed the adoration of course.. funny how mistresses love their slaves so much, isn't it;o) I will keep you informed as we go along.. & we intend to spay her as soon as the kittens are weaned, as there is no chance of her getting pregnant in the meantime where she is.... Already got my voucher from the CPL, & she is penciled in @ the Cromwell Surgery on the 15th of June. With any luck we will get there as planed ( I don't want to think of being sooner:o( I would never want to go through that ever again... that is for sure!! S;o) Sheelagh, She's positively gorgeous!! Wishing you a batch of healthy, beautiful kittens. You deserve it after what you've been through! And congratulations to your daughter! That's really a great achievement! Bonnie > Sheelagh, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Bonnie Thank you Bonnie;o) I am ever so proud of both my little girls too. Tiggy seems to have settled quite happily into her foster home, where they have been kind enough to lower her sheep - skin radiator bed so that she doesn't have to jump to get into it even!! She also has her own personal quarters where she she can choose to go to if she wants to be alone, or she can join the family in their living room if she wants to as well..(she seems to prefer that to being on her own)... Her host family have no cats of their own, so she is allowed to roam the downstairs when she wants to & share a few laps with them too of course;o) Apparently, she was calling for me yesterday after I left,.. so I have decided that I will only go around to see her when I feel I must, rather than when I want to. I don't want to upset her, or make her feel that I have abandoned her. She is actually geographically only about 500 yards away from our own home, so not very far, which is ideal, because when she has her kittens, I would like to attend her if it is possible, If Karen needs me. Otherwise, I think I would be foolish to be around her, in case I am carrying any sort of nasty lurking viruses, or bugs... otherwise I will have defeated the whole object of taking her there, to protect both her & her kittens. If anyone has any thoughts on this one, I would love to hear them? (In the case where Karen calls me for assistance if she needs a hand with her whilst she has her kittens.) Birmans are notoriously lazy when it comes to having their kittens. Last year when Lilly had her 1st and only litter, I found myself having to help her break the sacks around her kittens, rubbing them against mummy's fur to get them to breath & meow, then putting them to the teat to stimulate the placentas to follow each kitten; @ one stage, she had delivered two kittens, but both of the each kittens placenta's had been retained, whilst each kitten had already arrived..!! That frightened me..!! My daughter Katie, is currently still @ Leicester University where she is just finishing her current degree. She spent the whole of last summer working for social services, assisting with children's services, then @ the end of the summer she volunteered to help them out with Social service organised holidays with both disadvantaged children, & also . Katie went on a couple of trips, assisting with another group of children with disabilities and learning difficulties too, to get some valuable experience that she knew that she would need to satisfy the criteria when it came to applying to get a scholarship to get onto this Master of Arts post graduate degree - funded by the government & social services in particular. I admire her because working for social services a very thankless task, & even more so with children who's parents don't want their intervention. Her boyfriend has also just won a scholarship too, funded by Glaxo Smith Klein, to do a PHD in genetic medicine, because he wants to go on to become a professor in genetics, & eventually lecture @ University himself... They have worked so hard to get to where they are. As you must know, scholarships are few & far between, so for them both to win one has been a marvelous gift..!! Because they will both be working @ separate universities from this coming September, they have decided to move half way in between & commute, so that they can stay together. I am more than certain that Kitty will have a wonderful home & also a playmate too. They are also having a Moggy kitten to keep the Birman kitten company, from the local Cat Protection League near them, if they have any to offer.. if not I have offered to find one for them, around the same age, from our local shelter & socialise them here, before they move into their new slave's home. I want to be satisfied that both kittens are healthy & that they do get on , before allowing them to leave to join their new mummy. I did think about getting an older cat for them, but I'm not sure that, that might work. Again, any thoughts welcomed on this issue...? That will allow all of the rest of the summer for them all to become acquainted, under supervision, & if there are any hick ups, then I am on hand to help out.... Having said that, Katie is no fool & will be able to care for them well, by going on all of her previous experience @ home with our own cats here. ( she actually asked for Lucy(fur!), but Tilly, her younger sister, nearly screamed the house down @ the very thought of loosing her...needless to say that we rejected that idea rather quickly;o) News as It happens, S;o) > > Sheelagh, > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > will have defeated the whole object of taking her there, to protect > both her & her kittens. You've found a great foster situation for her. I hope every thing goes well! <snip> > My daughter Katie, is currently still @ Leicester University where she > is just finishing her current degree. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > that, that might work. > Again, any thoughts welcomed on this issue...? The young'uns will grow up together and bond naturally. Introducing a younger cat and an older cat often works, but it's a somewhat bigger risk that you'll wind up with two cats who merely tolerate each other. I think you (and your daughter) have made the right choice. <snip> Lis She is so beautiful, and those eyes are gorgeous too! fingers crossed > it all goes well, she is an angel in furry form > > bookie- Hide quoted text - Tiggy is a sweetie pie Bookie...out of all of our cats, she is the cuddliest one, & the most willing to make sure that your lap is warm for the benefit of her backside, lol;o) I quite enjoy being her slave. ........... She is good to her slave's, & also the most tolerant with the kids. When you consider that Tilly used to push her around in her pram, I think that you can safely say that she is more than confident & trusting, as well as loving & pretty with those blue stunning eyes . It feels like we have had her forever, not just 7ish months. I will keep you up to date with news of her litter & a few photos too if I can get some out of her after she has had them (furry little white mice!!) S;o) PS: How is your new dark tortie girl coming along BTW? Do we have a name yet for her? Those of you who know me, will remember that we decided to give up breeding. We had our Toms neutered & we scheduled to have 2 of the girls done, but our previous vet went out on an emergency call, so we didn't manage to get both Lilly & Tiggy spayed on the day that we hoped to. Things went from bad to worse 4 days later, when Lilly had to be admitted for Pyometra, & ended up having emergency surgery to remove her womb, but instead of costing me £20 (with vouchers from the Cat Protection League, It cost me slightly over £400 in the end because it was an emergency operation ($800ish). Straight after that operation, Lilly contracted Fvc (Flu!!) & all of our faithful feline friends ended up with a dose of it too,even though they were vaccinated against feline flu! we had to find a new vet that did offer 24/7 care, that Lilly didn't receive during her stay @ the previous veterinary surgery. It ended up costing us what we believed at the time to be our last litter of 4 kittens, to fading kitten syndrome. Belle was spayed a week after her kittens died ,which was very emotional for us all here. A few days after loosing Belle's babes, we realised that Tiggy, the seal Tabby Point was rather podgy (Guttuss maximus)..& found out that she was indeed pregnant, & that she was nearly 7 weeks pregnant. So we took her to the new Veterinary surgery, where we were advised to see if we could find someone to have Tiggy during her confinement, & also for the first 12 weeks of her kittens lives too, because of the fear that she might also contract Fcv, & either abort her litter, or we stood the chance of loosing her kittens as well!! An unthinkable tragedy as you can imagine. We did a bit of ringing around, & managed to find a friend who also does a bit of active work for the Cat Protection League, & was willing to have Tiggy for that length of rime, & then we moved her over to Karen's place the following day, & she has been there ever since. I get to see her most day's via web cam, but it is not quite the same as cuddling her as I am sure that you can understand.. But this isn't all about me, it is for Tiggy's & her kittens welfare... However, today I went to see her, so it meant having to scrub down thoroughly & spray my hands with hibiscrub as well as dipping my shoes in Sporal D too.. but it was worth it just to spend an hour with her, purring her little head off, having head rubs, leg weaves & lots of ear rubs too... we even had a very short walk top the meadow for 5 minutes, & she had a nice chew on the grass before we turned back, then I took her back to her comfortable radiator sheepskin bed, which has been especially lowered so that she can hop into it without having to jump - Wonderful;o) I calculate that she will be due in the following 5ish days...I can't help but be concerned for her, when you consider what our feline family have all been through. Tiggy was the only cat that didn't contract the virus, so we remain quite optimistic that she won't develop it, because the incubatory period is over now. I remain vigilant as ever, as Karen does too.. but you can't help that tiny nagging doubt after all that bad luck. As soon as we know that she has had her kittens, I will let you all know how she got on & also how many babes she had as well. I took a photo of her this morning to share with you all. http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sheelaghmadden/Tiggy89WeeksPregnant More news as we have it S;o) Looks like we'll be doing kitten watch together. I've got a foster that is due any time this week according to the vet. I had a momma and her day-old kittens come in last Friday so it looks like kitten season is starting already. The momma that I got Friday had already lost two of her litter but the remaining 4 seem to be doing well. Here's hoping that all the mommas and their babies are healthy. W > "sheelagh" <sheelagh_mad...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > I calculate that she will be due in the following 5ish days...I can't > help but be concerned for her, when you consider what our feline [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > W I look forward to news of your litter too then. I don't know about you, but I think that kitten season seems to have started even earlier this year than in previous years...? I guess that it could be something to do with Global warming. I notice that all of the usual web sites are full of them & so are the local news papers already, where in years gone by, they didn't really kick off until around April or May time. It is a shame to hear that she has lost two already, but this is the way of nature. Since posting on this site, I have come to see that in the USA, there seems to be a huge surplus of kittens available each year; or more surplus than we seem to have in the UK. I don't mean that we don'tt have too many kittens, but rather that people seem to abandon them when they get larger, than no homes for the kittens to go to, if that makes any sense? I was expecting someone to flame me for offering my daughter, Katie a kitten, but no one has so far. I would never dream of giving a kitten to someone that I didn't think would be utterly committed. She has always wanted one of our Kitties to have in her own home, but this is the first real chance that she has had since leaving home. In her 1st year away, she was living in halls of residence where they don't allow you to have pets.. & in the second year, she was house sharing in a house where the land lord wouldn't allow one either. This will be her first real home of her own, with her boyfriend of 6 years, so She asked if she might have one out of this litter, & I have agreed to allow her to have one as part of her 21st birthday gift. She won a scholarship to do a master of Arts, so she can now afford to feed, insure and love and care for one of the kitties, so I don't mind her having one. >From living @ home, she knows what a commitment it is to have a cat, so It seems appropriate to allow her to have one to share the next 15- 20 years of her life now. She wouldn't normally be able to afford one, but in this case it will be free for me, so I think she is entitled to one, after all of the kitty litters that she has cleaned out, & cats that she has groomed, nursed & cared for in the past, before she left home. I just hope that everything goes ok.. & that I am worrying about nothing. But only time will tell us that one. Tiggy tested negative for Fvc., & had no raised white count either. it doesn't hurt to go careful though, just to be certain for the kittens sakes as well as Tiggy's too. I wil let you know when they arrive. S;o) Sheelagh writes: > I was expecting someone to flame me for offering my daughter, Katie a > kitten, but no one has so far. > I would never dream of giving a kitten to someone that I didn't think > would be utterly committed. I think it makes perfectly good sense. She's certainly been around cats enough to know how to take care of them and know what's involved. She's got an expert to ask if something comes up that she can't handle. If she's like her mom, she'd be lonely without one! If for some reason she couldn't keep it, you could take the kitten back. The kittens are already on their way--might as well give one to someone who'll really appreciate the kitty! Bonnie I calculate that she will be due in the following 5ish days...I can't help but be concerned for her, when you consider what our feline family have all been through. How's Tiggy doing?! She must be getting awfully close to having them babies! http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sheelaghmadden/Tiggy89WeeksPregnant I love color (colour) point cats--yours just exude good health and excellent care! Hoping for good news soon about some fat, healthy little white "mice" and that mamma cat does well, too! Bonnie > I calculate that she will be due in the following 5ish days...I can't > help but be concerned for her, when you consider what our feline [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Bonnie I have news..... we have 4 wonderful baby's ...I might post this one seperately, but I thought you might like to know first as you took such an interest in them all <BIG GRIN> s;o) >> I calculate that she will be due in the following 5ish days...I can't >> help but be concerned for her, when you consider what our feline [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > <BIG GRIN> > s;o) Fabulous!! I'm so envious! Were you able to be there while they were being born? It must be frustrating not having them with you. How's Tiggy doing? Is this her first litter? Enjoy! Bonnie And of course we want pictures! > >> "sheelagh" <sheelagh_mad...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > born? It must be frustrating not having them with you. How's Tiggy doing? > Is this her first litter? No, I was told that she had already had 3 litters, so this wasn't her 1st one. It was! I had to wait for my partner, Paul to get in before I could fly round there. She had her first kitten @ 7pm, then nothing happend......until I moved her into one of her favourite igloo's from home, then it all kicked off Big Time.. she had two almost the moment she jumped into it, then one more slightly after. I have read that a cat can control; labour to a certain degree, & seen it only once before... I have to be honest, I was bricking it there for a while & had lots of muzzy thoughts of c. sections, bills & poor pussy cats, but she did it in the end...7 hours has to be a record for me though!! Thank you for your regards, it is a nice warm fuzzy feeling. I just don't want to get too ahead of myself, given recent events.. hard not to though! <Big Happy Grin from Grandma here> S;o) > Enjoy! > > Bonnie > > And of course we want pictures!- Hide quoted text - Of course!! I didn't like to use any camera tonight in case the flash set her off again, so I will take some tomorrow, or get Karen to, on my behalf... S;o) > I have news..... > we have 4 wonderful baby's ...I might post this one seperately, but I > thought you might like to know first as you took such an interest in > them all > <BIG GRIN> > s;o) How nice! Congratulations. Can you post some pictures? Charlie On 16 Mar, 04:48, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> wrote: > In article <1174017030.074758.85...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, > sheelagh_mad...@hotmail.co.uk says... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Charlie Not yet Charlie, but rest assured that there will be some tomorrow though;o) It was quite a prolonged labour, so I didn't like to get down there on her level and start using flashes... I thought it might be better to wait until daylight, then take a few of her & get them posted for you all to see. It is now 4.57am here, so it won't be too long to wait 1 very happy Sheelagh, lol!! S;o) > On 16 Mar, 04:48, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > 1 very happy Sheelagh, lol!! > S;o) Go to bed, girl--sounds like you had a rough night! > > On 16 Mar, 04:48, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@users.easynews.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > - Show quoted text - It was certinaly one of those nights where you sat on the edge of your seat all night, lol. You are right though, I do need to get a few Z's in before the school time rush in a few hours.. I am tierd silly..photos to follow later, S;o) |
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