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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2007Lion cut for long-haired cats
Lion cut for long-haired cats How is it done? Who does it? Vet? Groomer? Does the cat have to be anaesthetised? How often does it need to be done? How much does it cost? Does it prevent matting? What else do I need to know?  SignatureChris > Lion cut for long-haired cats > > How is it done? http://www.thecatgallery.com/himalayan_cat_models_page_8.html > Who does it? Vet? Groomer Either--if you have him sedated I'd prefer the vet. At my vet they'll shave them but don't make any promises as to aesthetic results! A groomer might not want to deal with a hysterical cat but some will and you'd probably get better looking results. I've shaved him (very difficult due to his personality) and so has my vet but I live in a small town where groomers are few and far between--and none of them really want to tackle a very cranky cat. > Does the cat have to be anaesthetised? Possibly--depends on personality of the cat. We had Clover shaved last year during a dental procedure--he was already sedated and he's so hard to handle. I'm not yet sure what we'll do this year. I don't know what groomers typically do but I doubt that they use sedation. > How often does it need to be done? Depends on why you're doing it. If for aesthetics only probably more often, although I'd have a hard time justifying shaving them for just for the look. I've shaved my curmudgeon at home (due to extreme hairballs) and had him shaved at the vets and it lasted from April through the summer and into fall. I don't shave him in the winter--the hairballs aren't so severe then. > How much does it cost? Varies with what you have done and where you do it. In the link with the pictures there's a breakdown of what it cost these people > Does it prevent matting? Yes--no hair no matting. > What else do I need to know? At least with my cat, once he gets over being mad at me for restraining him he seems to like it just fine. Have fun! Bonnie Some vets have groomers on staff. There is a vet near me that has a groomer. You may want to check around to find a vet with a groomer if you need to have the cat sedated but a good job done. S. >> Lion cut for long-haired cats >> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Have fun! Bonnie > Lion cut for long-haired cats > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Does it prevent matting? > What else do I need to know? -------------- I can only tell you about my experience. We had it done at the vet. My cat did not require anesthesia. We have had it done only once (last spring), and we will be having it done again in another month or so. (It takes a while for the fur to grow back). It did get rid of all the knots and mats (which are starting to reappear for the first time now - nearly a year later). It cost around $20 or $30. FTR, the cat was not shaved (at least my cat wasn't).. His fur was cut short with scissors. He looked very cute. Best regards, ---Cindy S. > > Lion cut for long-haired cats > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > cost around $20 or $30. FTR, the cat was not shaved (at least my cat > wasn't).. His fur was cut short with scissors. That's extrememly unusual. Are you sure they just didn't use a shaver that kept the fur longer? There is a #5 blade that keeps the fur at about a half-inch, but it shaves the fur pretty unevenly. If your cat had an even cut, it was probably shaved with an electric razor using a #10 blade. -L. >> > Lion cut for long-haired cats >> > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > had an even cut, it was probably shaved with an electric razor using a > #10 blade. ------------ It could have been a shaver. I assumed they had used a scissors because the fur was uneven, but I never asked specifically. You're probably right. But I suspect they did use a scissors at least around his hind legs bacause I don't think he would have tolerated someone's using a shaver back there. Best regards, ---Cindy S. > Lion cut for long-haired cats > > How is it done? > Who does it? Vet? Groomer? Biskit's was done by the veterinarian's in-house groomer. She was shaved, but not "bald." The groomer used clippers that left about 1/4 inch of hair. > Does the cat have to be anaesthetised? She was. If your cat isn't accustomed to being groomed, she will have to at least be sedated. > How often does it need to be done? Hers grew back in about 4 months > How much does it cost? IIRC, it was around $60, including sedation. Usually the vet mandates that the cat be current on vaccinations (particularly rabies), and if not, they'll require you do that, too. > Does it prevent matting? Absolutely yes. > What else do I need to know? If your kitty goes outdoors, don't do it. It leaves the cat very vulnerable to sunburn, and he/she also loses the protection of the fur if he/she gets into fights with other cats. We love it. Biskit has fine, long hair that mats easily. She even *acts* like she thinks she's quite pretty after a lion cut. I don't have her done in the winter. Only in late spring. HTH Sherry > -- > Chris > Lion cut for long-haired cats > > How is it done? Usually cat is sedated and nails are trimmed. Groomer combs out fur and then uses a shaver to shave the cat, leaving the mane and tufts on the tail and paws. > Who does it? Vet? Groomer? Groomer or vet tech. > Does the cat have to be anaesthetised? 95 percent of them need sedation. > How often does it need to be done? If you comb your cat, never. If you don't comb your cat, every 4 to 6 months, or sooner.. > How much does it cost? Sedation can run $15-65 dollars depending on what is needed. Cut runs about $25.00 > Does it prevent matting? No. Combing prevents matting. > What else do I need to know? If you cat is severely matted, get a lion cut and ask that the mane be cut short, and have the cat bathed. Then buy medium and fine-toothed metal grooming combs and ask the groomer to show you how to comb the cat. Comb the cat every day or every other day, and you will never have to have it shaved again. -L. (former groomer) >> Lion cut for long-haired cats >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > 95 percent of them need sedation. --------------- I never realized that. At home, Alex is not the least bit cooperative, but I think he gets so nervous at the vet that he gets *catatonic* (freezes up). In his case, I doubt that he was sedated because if he had been, I think they would have mentioned it, and I would have seen an extra charge on the itemized bill. Also, I think the price for the lion cut would have been a lot expensive (I was pleasantly surprised that it was so cheap). But, when I take him for another lion cut (in a month or two), I will definitely find out. It's not that I would take issue with it; I would just like to know. Thanks. Best regards, ---Cindy S. > > Lion cut for long-haired cats > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > -L. > (former groomer) Usually I'd agree, but I've found an exception. Biskit has angora-fine hair, and it's long, dry, and fly-away. That otherwise sweet cat starts emitting a low growl when she *sees* a comb or brush, and if one touches her, she freaks out. I've bought everything; even a zoom groom & "petting glove". The Zoom Groom was a no-go and the petting glove is tolerated about 30 seconds. But re: the other cats, my tool of choice for the longhairs is a wide- toothed comb with metal tines that are spaced wide and swivel independently. Frank is a Balinese-type, a longer & thicker coat than Biskit's. The mere sight of a brush puts him in instant nirvana and he starts to drool. He never matts, ever. Do you remember Bikkie? Here's her "Extreme Cat Makeover" photo. The screen is the pic I took of her when we found her: http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/makeover.jpg This is her after her cut last spring: http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkiehaircut1.jpg Sherry > Usually I'd agree, but I've found an exception. Biskit has angora-fine > hair, and it's long, dry, and fly-away. That otherwise sweet cat > starts emitting a low growl when she *sees* a comb or brush, and if > one touches her, she freaks out. I've bought everything; even a zoom > groom & "petting glove". The Zoom Groom was a no-go and the petting > glove is tolerated about 30 seconds. Oh, I know some cats won't tolerate grooming. :) Like everything, there are always exceptions. > But re: the other cats, my tool of choice for the longhairs is a wide- > toothed comb with metal tines that are spaced wide and swivel > independently. Frank is a Balinese-type, a longer & thicker coat than > Biskit's. The mere sight of a brush puts him in instant nirvana and he > starts to drool. He never matts, ever. Keeping the guard hairs culled really makes all the difference. I have seen cats that start to matt the minute after they are combed, though. It's one reason I will never have a long-haired cat! Some Persians have been bred for hair that is almost 9 inches long - ridiculous - and impossible to groom. > Do you remember Bikkie? Here's her "Extreme Cat Makeover" photo. The > screen is the pic I took of her when we found her: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > This is her after her cut last spring: > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkiehaircut1.jpg Yes - I love her coloring! :) I'm surprised they left her tail so long - I always did the end poof like a lion. :) I also trimmed the mane into a page boy haircut, so that it layed really nice, a bit shorter underneath. I used to get a lot of compliments and tips for my cuts, but I was a lot more meticulous that some of the other people who did grooming. This one woman just shaved the cat without regard as to how it looked, and her cuts always looked like crap. If I had paid $85-$125 to get my cat groomed and it came out looking like that, I'd be pissed! -L. >> Usually I'd agree, but I've found an exception. Biskit has angora-fine >> hair, and it's long, dry, and fly-away. That otherwise sweet cat [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > -L. Do you do house calls?!? A lovely trip to warm California perhaps? > Do you do house calls?!? A lovely trip to warm California perhaps? My consulting fee is $175.00/hr, one hour minimum. ;) -L. > My consulting fee is $175.00/hr, one hour minimum. ;) > > -L. ROFLMAO iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii hahahaha Ill take one! do me! do me! wooooooooooooooo hahahahahaaa one hour minimum!? For that kind of money, I'm gonna need you to talk mean and dirty to me. lol wait! I get that for free right now... never mind >> Do you do house calls?!? A lovely trip to warm California perhaps? > > My consulting fee is $175.00/hr, one hour minimum. ;) > > -L. Hmmm--might be cheaper to send the cat! > > This is her after her cut last spring: > >http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkiehaircut1.jpg > > Yes - I love her coloring! :) I'm surprised they left her tail so > long - I always did the end poof like a lion. :) > > -L. I've been told that this was a crummy lion cut. I really didn't know what to expect, so didn't know the difference between a good & bad cut. Apparently she should have been left with a "mane" and a tail- poof. If it becomes necessary next year, I'll probably take her to the same groomer. It was a good experience, overall, and she didn't come home traumatized, or cut, and the groomer seemed to truly love cats. So in view of all that, her hairdo was pretty fine I guess. Sherry > I've been told that this was a crummy lion cut. I really didn't know > what to expect, so didn't know the difference between a good & bad > cut. Apparently she should have been left with a "mane" and a tail- > poof. Personally I like a shorter mane. If the mane is left too long (like a true lion) it just looks raggedy. But some groomers do it that way. I would basically shave everything but the head and shave underneath the hair on the neck a bit, and then trim it, so that it laid nicely. I really wish I had taken some photos of my work. > If it becomes necessary next year, I'll probably take her to the same > groomer. It was a good experience, overall, and she didn't come home > traumatized, or cut, and the groomer seemed to truly love cats. So in > view of all that, her hairdo was pretty fine I guess. Really the only cats that are in danger of being cut while being groomed are really old cats because their skin gets really thin. I cut one once and felt terrible, but it really wasn't anything I could prevent. the second I touched her with the shaver, her skin came off. :/ -L. snip > This one woman just shaved the cat without regard > as to how it looked, and her cuts always looked like crap. If I had > paid $85-$125 to get my cat groomed and it came out looking like that, > I'd be pissed! ----- Well, Alex came out looking pretty much like that as well. But at least we didn't pay too much for it. I was just glad his mats and knots were gone. Better a cheap crappy cut than an expensive crappy cut, I always say ;-) Best regards, ---Cindy S. > Lion cut for long-haired cats > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > Chris By the way, if you have it done, ask that they use a #10 blade. This will leave a short fur on the cat (about 1/4 inch or so). -L. > Lion cut for long-haired cats > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > Chris I dunno, but sounds GRAND. Post pics! ... > Does the cat have to be anaesthetised? ... > What else do I need to know? That it's one of the goofiest-looking things I've ever seen? ;) That cats can have adverse reactions to anaesthesia and get very sick or die, so it's best to avoid anaesthetizing them unless it's medically necessary? -- Jennifer > ... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > Jennifer I don't think it's a full-blown anesthesia that they use, not the same kind for surgery. I believe Biskit was just sedated. (I could be wrong about this; Lyn probably knows)... OTOH, I think a matted, dirty cat coat *is* a medical necessity. I would never groom a cat for aesthetics though. Biskit looked so goofy at first. If she wasn't so unusually marked, I 'd swear they gave me the wrong cat. She was so *tiny*, so much smaller than I thought she was. Sherry > I don't think it's a full-blown anesthesia that they use, not the same > kind for surgery. I believe Biskit was just sedated. (I could be wrong > about this; Lyn probably knows)... Depends on the cat. usually it's just injectible sedation - but some cats need gas (isofluorane), which gets spendy, but is still relatively safe (safer than some injectibles). > OTOH, I think a matted, dirty cat coat *is* a medical necessity. Yes, it is. Matts can cause abscesses if they are left unattended. Matts around the anal area can attract flies which will then lay eggs, which hatch and eat the feces and sometimes the flesh underneath. Yes, I have seen it more than once. I > would never groom a cat for aesthetics though. > Biskit looked so goofy at first. If she wasn't so unusually marked, I > 'd swear they gave me the wrong cat. She was so *tiny*, so much > smaller than I thought she was. It's amazing how much their hair hides. If done right, a lion cut is very cute. -L. > Lion cut for long-haired cats > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Does it prevent matting? > What else do I need to know? Some of you may remember Megan, who used to post on this group. She does lion cuts, and she does a fantastic job -- the cats really do look lions after she works on them. She does not sedate the cats. She goes to their homes and has their hoomins help calm the cats if needed. Here are a few pictures of some of the cats with their new furstyles: ttp://tinyurl.com/2xecln Sadly, Marvin (one of Megan's beloved cats, shown in a few of the pictures) died yesterday of congestive heart failure. He was only 9 years old, but he had the best of care for those 9 years. MaryL >> Lion cut for long-haired cats >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > MaryL I see I left one of the letters of the URL for the pictures. Here is the correct link: http://tinyurl.com/2xecln -- MaryL >I see I left one of the letters of the URL for the pictures. Here is the >correct link: http://tinyurl.com/2xecln Another kitty when she had a lion cut last year. (It's time again right now as her tummy is getting all knotted) http://pets.webshots.com/album/557513465jzDNBu > Some of you may remember Megan, who used to post on this group. She does > lion cuts, and she does a fantastic job -- the cats really do look lions [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MaryL Aaaaw - poor Marvin! May he rest in peace. She really does do a good job at grooming them. Chi Chi looks amazing: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=15439250&uid=2364916 -L. |
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