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Mike - 01 May 2004 07:09 GMT
I just read an article
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040429/ap_on_re_us/cicadas_pets_1
that suggests keeping pets indoors for a while because of the
'once-every-17-years mating dance' of the Cicadas. It says that pets
can get ill (vomiting and constipation) from eating the shells of
these insects.

Does anyone know anything about this? I live in the woods and our
trees get so full of them and they make so much noise it's deafening.
But what exactly is so different about this year from the previous
years? The article makes it sound like there will be a ton of them
laying all over the yard or something.

Do I really need to worry about my outside cats eating these things
this year? I know they've eaten cicadas before but I wouldn't know if
they've gotten sick or not.
PawsForThought - 01 May 2004 19:27 GMT
>From: littleboyblu87@yahoo.com  (Mike)

>I just read an article
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>years? The article makes it sound like there will be a ton of them
>laying all over the yard or something.

I heard about it on the news.  I guess they only come out in droves every 17
years and this is one of those years.  Probably sounds like a good idea to not
let the pets eat them.

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Sandy - 01 May 2004 21:21 GMT
> I heard about it on the news.  I guess they only come out in droves every 17
> years and this is one of those years.  Probably sounds like a good idea to not
> let the pets eat them.
>
> Lauren

What I heard is that any given colony of cicadas only comes out like this
every 17 years, but there are different colonies on different 17-year
cycles.

Sandy
Orchid - 02 May 2004 01:30 GMT
>>From: littleboyblu87@yahoo.com  (Mike)
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>years and this is one of those years.  Probably sounds like a good idea to not
>let the pets eat them.

    Piggybacking because I didn't get the original.

    Most cicadas are not like the Brood X cicadas we see here on
the East Coast of the United States(Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio,
Illinois, Michigan, Tennessee, New Jersey, Missouri, Georgia, Long
Island, Pennsylvania, and the Baltimore-D.C., metro area).  This group
is unique to the region, and they're an enormous pain in the butt.
Every 17 years they crawl up from the ground in the trillions.  And
no, I'm not exaggerating about the trillions part -- there will be
trillions in one state alone.  It can get so loud that it's difficult
to sleep at night.
    The cicadas are extremely slow and don't bother to watch where
they are flying.  They fly into people, trees, houses, and predators.
They get caught in your hair, which is horrible.  I have seen birds so
stuffed with cicadas that they can't fly (granted, I was 10 at the
time, but these things stick with you).  They're the ideal insect for
dogs and cats to catch and eat because they take so damn little
effort.

Some good links:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28974-2004Mar27_3.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/03/040330085104.htm
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/03/0329_040329_cicadas.html#main
http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2004/01/12in/met-front-cicada0112-4463.html

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PawsForThought - 02 May 2004 20:33 GMT
>From: Orchid neko@ascendancy.net

>    Most cicadas are not like the Brood X cicadas we see here on
>the East Coast of the United States(Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>dogs and cats to catch and eat because they take so damn little
>effort.

I live in one of the states that has these.  But I don't remember them from 17
years ago.  They sound pretty yucky for sure!

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Laura R. - 02 May 2004 20:47 GMT
circa Sat, 01 May 2004 20:30:06 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Orchid (neko@ascendancy.net) said,
> Most cicadas are not like the Brood X cicadas we see here on
> the East Coast of the United States(Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> trillions in one state alone.  It can get so loud that it's difficult
> to sleep at night.

Are you saying that the states listed *don't* have the cicadas in
question, or that they *do*? I'm confused. :-)

Laura
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Priscilla Ballou - 02 May 2004 21:21 GMT
> circa Sat, 01 May 2004 20:30:06 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Orchid (neko@ascendancy.net) said,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Are you saying that the states listed *don't* have the cicadas in
> question, or that they *do*? I'm confused. :-)

They do.  Check out the map at http://www.msj.edu/cicada/

Priscilla
Laura R. - 03 May 2004 06:27 GMT
circa Sun, 02 May 2004 20:21:26 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Priscilla Ballou (vze23t8n@verizon.net) said,
> They do.  Check out the map at http://www.msj.edu/cicada/

<shudder>

car wax, car wax....
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Orchid - 03 May 2004 14:28 GMT
>circa Sat, 01 May 2004 20:30:06 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
>Orchid (neko@ascendancy.net) said,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Are you saying that the states listed *don't* have the cicadas in
>question, or that they *do*? I'm confused. :-)

    The listed states are the home of the Brood X cicadas.  Sorry
for the confusion.  :)

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Laura R. - 02 May 2004 20:47 GMT
circa Sat, 01 May 2004 20:30:06 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Orchid (neko@ascendancy.net) said,
> Most cicadas are not like the Brood X cicadas we see here on
> the East Coast of the United States(Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> trillions in one state alone.  It can get so loud that it's difficult
> to sleep at night.

Ope, NM, I think I get it now. :-)

Regardless, cicadas are gross. I say, make car wax out of all of 'em!

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Cheryl - 02 May 2004 00:48 GMT
> I just read an article
> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040429/ap_on_re_us/cicada
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> this year? I know they've eaten cicadas before but I wouldn't know if
> they've gotten sick or not.

Depends on where you live. This species is mainly an east coast version.
I'm in the DC area and we're gearing up for the ugliness of it all. But
yes, and the HS issued a warning because while the bug itself is full of
protein, the exoskeleton is chiten and undigestable. A few won't hurt,
but because of the sheer number of these things during their mating
dance, it's easy for animals to try to eat too many.

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Jason - 03 May 2004 20:00 GMT
Cats love eating cicadas.  Cicadas are high in protein and are very clean
(disease free).  Some people eat them as well.  There are more than a few
cicada cookbooks with recipes for cooking cicadas.  (Personally, I think
eating them is disgusting.)

Concern with allowing cats to buffet on cicadas is because of their hard
shells.  Eating too many can result in constipation.  Eating a few shouldn't
hurt though.
Sherry - 04 May 2004 05:08 GMT
>Cats love eating cicadas.  Cicadas are high in protein and are very clean
>(disease free).  Some people eat them as well.  There are more than a few
>cicada cookbooks with recipes for cooking cicadas.  (Personally, I think
>eating them is disgusting.)

First I thought this was a joke. But then I recall a Scoutmaster when my son
was little, who was an old Air Force guy with extensive survival training. He
taught those kids which bugs they could eat, and eat bugs they did. I don't
even like the cats eating bugs, much less my kids. I'll ask my son if cicadas
were on the list. I bet he remembers.

Sherry
Orchid - 04 May 2004 18:35 GMT
>First I thought this was a joke. But then I recall a Scoutmaster when my son
>was little, who was an old Air Force guy with extensive survival training. He
>taught those kids which bugs they could eat, and eat bugs they did. I don't
>even like the cats eating bugs, much less my kids. I'll ask my son if cicadas
>were on the list. I bet he remembers.

    Cicadas are absolutely on the list, as are many many many
insects.  Humans have been eating insects in most cultures for
milennia -- honey ants, termites, grasshoppers, various grubs, worms,
and the list goes on and on.
    I've had cicadas before -- they don't have much flavour to
them alone, but they pick up other flavours beautifully.  Best in a
sauce of some sort, especially one that points up the nutty taste they
have naturally.

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Priscilla H Ballou - 04 May 2004 18:44 GMT
Orchid <neko@ascendancy.net> quoth:
>>First I thought this was a joke. But then I recall a Scoutmaster when my son
>>was little, who was an old Air Force guy with extensive survival training. He
>>taught those kids which bugs they could eat, and eat bugs they did. I don't
>>even like the cats eating bugs, much less my kids. I'll ask my son if cicadas
>>were on the list. I bet he remembers.

>    Cicadas are absolutely on the list, as are many many many
>insects.  Humans have been eating insects in most cultures for
>milennia -- honey ants, termites, grasshoppers, various grubs, worms,
>and the list goes on and on.

My father grew up in China in the first part of the 20th century, and he
ate locusts there.  If you think about it, how different is a lobster from
a cricket?

Priscilla
Orchid - 04 May 2004 19:53 GMT
>Orchid <neko@ascendancy.net> quoth:
>>>First I thought this was a joke. But then I recall a Scoutmaster when my son
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>ate locusts there.  If you think about it, how different is a lobster from
>a cricket?

    Not.  :)  Lobsters (and crabs and shrimp) are members of the
phylum Arthropoda along with insects.  So in essence, lobsters and
other yummy seafood we love are really just great big underwater bugs.

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Priscilla H Ballou - 04 May 2004 21:12 GMT
Orchid <neko@ascendancy.net> quoth:

>>My father grew up in China in the first part of the 20th century, and he
>>ate locusts there.  If you think about it, how different is a lobster from
>>a cricket?

>    Not.  :)  Lobsters (and crabs and shrimp) are members of the
>phylum Arthropoda along with insects.  So in essence, lobsters and
>other yummy seafood we love are really just great big underwater bugs.

Yes, that was what I thought, but I didn't want to get too specific
because I wasn't *sure*.  Something like 30 years ago I went out with a
fellow who was studying marine biology, and he always referred to lobsters
as "red crickets."

Priscilla
Laura R. - 06 May 2004 01:01 GMT
circa Tue, 4 May 2004 17:44:42 +0000 (UTC), in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Priscilla H Ballou
(phb@shell01.TheWorld.com) said,
> My father grew up in China in the first part of the 20th century, and he
> ate locusts there.  If you think about it, how different is a lobster from
> a cricket?

Well, for starters, the thought of eating a lobster doesn't make me
retch and gag. ;-)

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Cheryl - 04 May 2004 22:52 GMT
>      Cicadas are absolutely on the list, as are many many many
> insects.  Humans have been eating insects in most cultures for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> sauce of some sort, especially one that points up the nutty taste they
> have naturally.

This has been getting a lot of news in the area lately: University of
Maryland cicada recipes. There are even deserts. Ah yummy. lol
http://www.urhome.umd.edu/newsdesk/pdf/cicada%20recipes.PDF

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