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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / May 2004Why would Mama cat freak when I take the kitties outside? now
I have (3) thirty three day old kitties. See http://www.scrtoys.com/ I've scooped them up twice and taken them outside to change their surroundings and play in the grass. This freaks Mama. She mows continuously even after I return them to their room. She'll go back outside where they were playing and mow like she's calling males. What's going on, do you think? How should I introduce the kittens to the outdoors? -Stuart She's a MOM. She wants to be in control of the safety and whereabouts of your offspring. I would not stress her. Karen > I have (3) thirty three day old kitties. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Stuart > I have (3) thirty three day old kitties. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What's going on, do you think? I think you're pissing her off. A lot. Stop that. :) > How should I introduce the kittens to the outdoors? Bring Mom, too. Moms get worried when their babies disappear, then come back smelling funny.  Signature-- ~kaeli~ Is it possible to be totally partial? http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >> I have (3) thirty three day old kitties. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Moms get worried when their babies disappear, then come back smelling >funny. Mom goes with them. I'm not taking her kitties away from her. scr circa Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:57:38 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, SCR (stuartr@speakeasy.net) said, > >stuartr@speakeasy.net enlightened us with... > >> I have (3) thirty three day old kitties. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Mom goes with them. I'm not taking her kitties away from her. Well, you're taking them far enough away from her to worry her. Cut it out. :-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > circa Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:57:38 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > SCR (stuartr@speakeasy.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Laura You'll be able to tell from her behaviour inside when she is willing to have them go outside with her. Karen > >Bring Mom, too. > >Moms get worried when their babies disappear, then come back smelling > >funny. > > Mom goes with them. I'm not taking her kitties away from her. Well, they are only a month old. If Mom goes outside to go potty, as I infer from your other post, she will bring them out when the time comes. Let her bring them out. Maybe she is worried and thinks it isn't safe for them yet. I'm not all that experienced with indoor/outdoor, so you may want to ask over in alt.cats (.uk?), where a lot of UKers post. They let their cats go out a lot more there. [my cats wouldn't crap outside in 10 below winters even if I let them out] Signature-- ~kaeli~ Do cemetery workers prefer the graveyard shift? http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace << What's going on, do you think? How should I introduce the kittens to the outdoors? -Stuart >> Why do you need to introduce them to the outdors. Indoor cats are safer. Find them good, safe indoor homes and get mom cat fixed. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) ><< What's going on, do you think? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Candace >(take the litter out before replying by e-mail) Excuse me. I wasn't asking what I should do with my kitties. I'm keeping all of them and they are going to be able to enjoy the fenced backyard. Litter boxes are for apartment dwellers. And, yes, Mom will be neutered. scr > ><< What's going on, do you think? > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > scr WHen they are older and mom lets them have independence. Karen > ><< What's going on, do you think? > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > scr How high is the fence? Can you guarantee that no dogs etc. will be let in to slaughter your cats? And can you understand why Mama cat with her little cat brain might worry about tiny babies out of doors? Does SHE understand the concept of "fence" and trust it? Should she? Pardon me, but the fact that you asked this question makes you appear to be stupid. [Thanks fo Kaeli for the etiquette example! Without her civilizing example I might have just said "IDIOT," and left it at that. Litter boxes are for apartment dwellers my *ss.] > Should she? Pardon me, but the fact that >you asked this question makes you appear to be stupid. [Thanks fo Kaeli for >the etiquette example! Without her civilizing example I might have just said >"IDIOT," and left it at that. Litter boxes are for apartment dwellers my >*ss.] Bye compulsive, self-righteous cat owners. scr > Bye compulsive, self-righteous cat owners. Hey, I've been trying really hard not to come off that way lately. I don't always succeed, but you gotta give a girl points for trying. If you figure out what the problem was, please e-mail me. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Dancing cheek-to-cheek is really a form of floor play. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Why does it matter *why* she wants to introduce her cats to the outdoors? That is completely beside the point and has nothing to do with her question of *how* to introduce them. My two cents. > << What's going on, do you think? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other > than human." (Loren Eisely) > Why does it matter *why* she wants to introduce her cats to the outdoors? > That is completely beside the point and has nothing to do with her question > of *how* to introduce them. Why does it matter? They are a month old and it might not be good for them? And it is upsetting their mother? Is it a full moon? Sorry, I don't see why it isn't "good for them" to be introduced to a fenced in yard at a month old, especially now that the weather has been very nice. Of course, I think (personally) that it's nobody's business why she is trying to do it. She asked for help on how. If you have not useful help to give, why do you reply to her thread? She didn't ask for your opinion on why, she asked for information. Of course some people don't understand that. > > Why does it matter *why* she wants to introduce her cats to the outdoors? > > That is completely beside the point and has nothing to do with her [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Is it a full moon? I don't think a fenced yard it bad at all, but apparently MOMCAT thinks kids are too young right now. I'd abide by her behaviour. When she is ready (probably another 5 weeks) to let them go outside, she won't get riled up. Karen > Sorry, I don't see why it isn't "good for them" to be introduced to a fenced > in yard at a month old, especially now that the weather has been very nice. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > Is it a full moon? > Sorry, I don't see why it isn't "good for them" to be introduced to a fenced > in yard at a month old, especially now that the weather has been very nice. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Of course some people don't understand that. If someone asked you the best way to declaw a cat, would you just tell them, or would you also tell them how bad declawing is, what the risks are, etc? How about the best way to introduce your dog to hunting (if it were a dog group)? If you were adamantly opposed to hunting as a cruel, horrid sport, would you just not say anything at all? It's really, really hard to not say anything when you believe strongly against a certain practice. Many people on this group firmly believe in keeping cats indoors. This is Usenet. We all get to say things, whether you like what we say or not. No one makes you read it. Signature-- ~kaeli~ "No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously." http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace "No one makes you read it." That's always a very sound reply when people are asked why they even bother to give a "lecture" instead of answering a question that was asked. If you are strongly against a practice, such as letting cats outdoors or taking dogs hunting, and someone asks about it, just give them the facts, don't give them a lecture, and don't attack them for what they believe and what they want to do. I thought giving an answer to how to introduce kittens to the outside that basically said, "Don't, find them indoor homes" as absolutely useless and rather rude. But because this *is* Usenet and everyone gets to post whatever they want, whenever they want (see all the spam that's on most boards), people think that gives them the right to preach their point of view or to be rude to others. IMHO, if you want to preach about not letting cats outside or against hunting or against declawing, start your own website or journal and go for it. But when people ask a specific question (regardless of what you think about it), give them information they ask for, or don't. Anything else is just a waste of bandwith. [ my two cents ] > > Sorry, I don't see why it isn't "good for them" to be introduced to a fenced > > in yard at a month old, especially now that the weather has been very nice. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > This is Usenet. We all get to say things, whether you like what we say > or not. No one makes you read it. > IMHO, if you want to preach about not letting cats outside or against > hunting or against declawing, start your own website or journal and go for > it. I did. See my sig. > But when people ask a specific question (regardless of what you think > about it), give them information they ask for, or don't. Anything else is > just a waste of bandwith. You're allowed to think that way. I don't agree, but hey. Whatever. ;) Signature-- ~kaeli~ Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > IMHO, if you want to preach about not letting cats outside or against > > hunting or against declawing, start your own website or journal and go for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You're allowed to think that way. > I don't agree, but hey. Whatever. ;) Exactly. > Sorry, I don't see why it isn't "good for them" to be introduced to a fenced > in yard at a month old, especially now that the weather has been very nice. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Of course some people don't understand that. I understand it. I just don't care. She has no business deciding that month-old kittens need to go outside. It's idiotic, particularly since she is upsetting the mother cat. Of course, some people do not understand that. << Why does it matter *why* she wants to introduce her cats to the outdoors? That is completely beside the point and has nothing to do with her question of *how* to introduce them. My two cents. >> a) it was a "he," not a "she," and b) it's usenet; if I don't feel like answering the question in a manner you deem apprpriate, that's my choice. You gave your 2 cents, I gave mine. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) So you are saying because this is Usenet, you get to be rude to people or push your point of view and lecture others whether they ask to or not? I find that rather appalling. This should be a helpful place where people's questions are answered, not where you get a lecture regardless of what you ask. > << Why does it matter *why* she wants to introduce her cats to the outdoors? > That is completely beside the point and has nothing to do with her question [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other > than human." (Loren Eisely) > So you are saying because this is Usenet, you get to be rude to people or > push your point of view and lecture others whether they ask to or not? > > I find that rather appalling. Perhaps Usenet is not for you. Control freaks always have a hard time with it. >I've scooped them up twice and taken them outside to change their >surroundings and play in the grass. >This freaks Mama. She mows continuously even after I return them to >their room. She'll go back outside where they were playing and mow >like she's calling males. I wouldn't take the kittens outside. You do need to pick them up and hold them while mom's there so the babies can get socialized without freaking her out. The mom could be in heat again. Get her spayed asap. She can still nurse after spay surgery. Talk to your vet. Keep mom inside the house or she'll get pregnant again. As soon as the kittens weigh 2 lbs., get them all fixed. This should be around 8 weeks of age. Then you can adopt them out or keep them. There are some cheap spay/neuter places around. I pay $23 each kitten. Adults cost more, especially if they are in heat or pregnant. If she does get pregnant, you can still get her spayed. Thanks for caring for them. > How should I introduce the kittens to the outdoors? In a word: don't. SignatureDennis Carr - ke6isf@spamcop.net | I may be out of my mind, http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. ------------------------------------+------------------------------- > > How should I introduce the kittens to the outdoors? > > In a word: don't. Another good idea. They are a MONTH old? UK or US, what an idiot. Um, not to be mean, but isn't it pretty obvious? You're taking her babies away and it's making her anxious. Wait until they're weaned before you separate them from mom. Plenty of time for changes of scene later, right now they should stay with her. M9 > I have (3) thirty three day old kitties. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Stuart |
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