> > I am tiered, & got to take poor Lilly back i the am to vets, so will
> > post more about this then, OK Big Bear?> Your'e gonna thank me for helping you get set free.- Hide quoted text -
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> I believe you. I had to know.
Thank goodness for that.
You know, maybe you should get a job in homicide as the intervewing
detective.. Your damned good @ this & I'm sure that you would clear
out the crime rate in 3months..every damned case too
> I agree... some things don't need to posted to Usenet, yes I stepped
> over the line some, I apologize.
That's OK, I understand.
I can see why you questioned me..
I got over caring about what other people think of me a loooong time
ago.
Think about it? I was illeterate & a mother too.
Those two things don't mix very well!
OTOH, It does matter what your freind's think about you, doesn't it?
It matters because you care about them.
> nooo, I don't need bookie kissing my a.s.
Well, she might flame your a.s, don't say I didn't warn you
> Thanks for the encouragement.
Thats OK too..LOL
> You felt bad for breeding cats?
Initially I didn't feel guilty for breeding cats at all.
In fact it was my life ambition, my dream if you like.
There were plenty of good times, & there were some bad ones too. No
one enjoys dealing with dead kitty situations, do they?
I had one kitten that I hand reared for six whole weeks, then suddenly
he died in a matter of a few minutes. That was shocking & it hurt...
You felt bad before you came here?
No, not even slightly.
I lulled myself into beleiveing that I was doing my bit for all of
community kitties, then I was helping out @ the cat protection, & the
local shelter too..so you can see how I reached that false sense of
security, can't you?
It was after I came here looking for help with Tiggy, my Birman tabby
with the ring worm problem.
& I sat back & started reading...
Funny (not lol, more curious), really, cuz it was you that started the
chain of events to be honest.
I flamed your a.s good and proper, & I couldn't beleive it when
everyone went<ahhemm>,
"It's not that we agree" ....
"It's more that we think your in the wrong".
"perhaps you would fit in better somewhere else".
Hell, you have no idea how that shocked me, Seriously..!!!
That made me start thinking, I mean SERIOUSLY THINKING....
I who art holier than though, I think would be the best way to
describe it...
So being the stubborn a.s that I am, I started to do a bit more
reading and a little less commenting..& I suddenly started to see a
pattern emerging...Cats get killed cuz no one wants them??????
I was utterly shocked, we/ I must live in a very sheltered world over
here cuz they don't do that @ my shelter, & they certainly don't do it
@ the cat protection league unless the cat is in dire trouble anyway..
Then the photos started rolling, & the comments too.. & it made me
realise that what I am doing is WRONG, however much I dress it up.
I didn't enjoy facing it, or dealing with it.
I invested quite a bit of money in my breeding stock, & I wasn't sure
if I really wanted to give it up either..There was so much to
consider, & it wasn't an easy decision to make.
I hate admitting that I am wrong, but if I am, then I do....
So you see, there were lots of things to think about..
No It didn't pay very well, you can't ever go away because the cats
don't turn off whilst you spend 2 weeks in Spain, When it's cold you
still have to go out there and make sure that the pussy cats are fine,
& the vet bills are humongus sometimes & when your sick, no one else
can deal with the cats, you have to- I had the kids feelings to
consider too..
So It was a well thought decision & when i saw the photo that Phil
posted, It made me cry.. I don't mind admitting it!!
> That's not a loaded question, I need to read your reply again.
No need the answer is here...
> I'm also trying to condense the sequence of events with you, I'm
> trying to put real events with a real person I think.
Well, I hope that this helps you. I'm no hero, I make huge mistakes, &
my mouth is four foot in front of my brain,
(so my sweet mother told me,lol!!)
*I just want to be happy with me*
You can try & fool others, but you can't fool yourself, & who wants to
live a lie anyway?
> I checked into Online Law School today. You can actually become an
> attorney over the internet. I mean.. all you have to do is pass the
> bar. I don't think it's easy at all, I'm just saying, wow.
Wow too..I don't think I could do that though.
I am trying to stick with the original plan, because in my mind, it is
achievable & it is not insurmountable either.
> Don't lose your ferver for the things you talked about doing.
I am certainly going to try. I have until September to prepare for it.
By prepare, I mean get myself psyched up for it confidence wise (It is
a big thing for me when you consider I have never taken anyt exam in
my life other thasn my driving test...)
I'm
> sorry about Paul, that's awful! WOW, I've had people I care about go
> through severe personal injury, it changes you, and you're never the
> same. (it's not good or bad.. depends on how one handles changes)
Not very well to start with;o(
You never spoke a truer statement there!
It took us two years to get him walking again, then the Doctors
discovered that he had something else wrong, called Degenerative
spinal stenosis ..
Just when we thought things were getting back to near normal, he had a
heart attack, 3 in total, but now he is over them & had a tripe by
pass done. Straight after that, he went & fell over & did another two
vertibrea & ended up in a wheel chair.
I think that anyone who goes through that, you have to feel for.
Again, OTOH..It was hard for the kids and I as well. It was certainly
no picnic in the park!
We just *had to adapt*
Currently he is 1/2 & 1/2. The heart is much better, but he doesn't
get around anymore, It is 80% in a wheel chair..It's not the end of
the world, but it can be depressing at times.
You just have to be possitive
> You still going to get involved in a paid animal/cat rescue effort? If
> that's what you want, then I hope so.
I have never stopped Bear. I do Thursdays at the shelter.
What ever they need me to do, but mainly sh*t shovleling, emptying cat
litters, feeding the cats,holding and shaking money collection boxes
in front of people, guided tours, talking to adopting new parents
about the cat they would like, & a lot of reading upon the cats too.
(so that I can tell them a little about their new cat).
I am fairly certain it is exactly what I want.
We were talking about this last night actually.
If I am going to work for them, I would like to help in an are that I
do have a bit of experience in , which is pregnant mothers, & litters
of kittens..even hand rears if they really need me to & they want me
to of course!
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On a foot note, I have taken Lilly in to the vets this morning, & she
is having a full panel of bloods done, being observed & I have signed
the consent form to spay her if they feel that it would be best done
today.
Her anal sacks are secreeting a nasty mess with some blood in it..I
must be feeling overly emotional because I cried when I left her
there;I dont't usually cry, but It hurt leaving her there today. I do
have to admit that she is my baby.
I think you understand, don't you?
> Barry
Go Daddy - 07 Feb 2007 23:29 GMT
> > I believe you. I had to know.
>
> Thank goodness for that.
> You know, maybe you should get a job in homicide as the intervewing
> detective.. Your damned good @ this & I'm sure that you would clear
> out the crime rate in 3months..every damned case too
I'm only good out of the gate see... see how wrong I was?
BUT see all the glorious info I have extracted? I think I am more of a
diplomat.
Bringing people to a place of agreement... finalizing, resolving
things.
Even if it means war, at least the parties know where the others
stand.
I think I'm good at getting the truth, not necessarily putting a
puzzle together.
> Well, she might flame your a.s, don't say I didn't warn you
I'm a big guy, let's see if she even caught it or read it, could be
she never even heard me tell her to kiss my a.s.
I HOPE BOOKIE DIDN'T HEAR ME TELL HER TO KISS MY PATOOTIE
> > You felt bad for breeding cats?
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> "perhaps you would fit in better somewhere else".
I didn't see that, I read posts to you, but didn't get that feeling,
maybe it WAS a little of both. You was already leaning that way
(feeling bad about it).. and it was easier for you to pick up on
general consensus... it doesn't matter.
> Hell, you have no idea how that shocked me, Seriously..!!!
> That made me start thinking, I mean SERIOUSLY THINKING....
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> reading and a little less commenting..& I suddenly started to see a
> pattern emerging...Cats get killed cuz no one wants them??????
That is the root I suppose, but realistically, cats are a full time
committment/job.
Not everyone has what it takes to properly care for a cat. I mean
sure.. some food and water and love.. but.. it does take a life
changing adjustment to host cats.
One cat is not so bad, but 2 or more? Therein lies all sorts of
potentials for difficulties.
Instead of working for a shelter or rescue for money, why not Raise
money for educating people on the subject, you could start a not for
profit org, and raise money for educating people. Maybe more later if
that interests you.
I know a woman who raises over a million dollars a year for a womens
home.
She writes grants, she knows who is giving money for her cause, and
she puts a nice package on their desk.
> I was utterly shocked, we/ I must live in a very sheltered world over
> here cuz they don't do that @ my shelter,
You mean put them to sleep? That's not surprising, I think practice
varies from culture to culture. Some cultures raise them for fur.
I figure there are some logical reasons why your shelters are no kill.
> > I'm also trying to condense the sequence of events with you...
> *I just want to be happy with me*
> You can try & fool others, but you can't fool yourself, & who wants to
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> have to admit that she is my baby.
> I think you understand, don't you?
Let us know what happened
Barry