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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2007Contact the ASPCA and PETA
Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at Info@peta.org and humanel@aspca.org http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg Remember to include the above URL for this video. > Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at Info@peta.org and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Remember to include the above URL for this video. uh, PETA is NOT a proponent of pets. If they had their way, no one would have pet cats, dogs or anything. Their name, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is a misnomer and they have a pretty ugly history. Do some research.  SignatureLynne >> Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty >> by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at Info@peta.org and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Do > some research. True enough and sad that they own the name. PETA, while having a few - note that , FEW - good points in their crusade for animals, is overshadowed by a crackpot, lunatic fringe element within their ranks that totally alienates most normal folks who come in contact with them. >>>Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty >>>by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at Info@peta.org and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > crackpot, lunatic fringe element within their ranks that totally alienates > most normal folks who come in contact with them. I understand that, but if they can help in this instance, what's the harm in asking? >> True enough and sad that they own the name. PETA, while having a few - >> note that , FEW - good points in their crusade for animals, is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I understand that, but if they can help in this instance, what's the harm > in asking? Certainly no harm..... Have at it, you'll see what they're all about if you speak to the right person about how much you love your captive animals ( pets). > Certainly no harm..... Have at it, you'll see what they're all about > if you speak to the right person about how much you love your captive > animals ( pets). Yep, yep. http://petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm SignatureLynne > > Certainly no harm..... Have at it, you'll see what they're all about > > if you speak to the right person about how much you love your captive [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Lynne I am being a bit dumb possibly, but why are they taking in and killing people's animals? what is the reasoning behind that? i thought they were just anti-fur myself , but then i don't know much abut them, they are not that vocal in the UK as far as i know bookie > >> True enough and sad that they own the name. PETA, while having a few - > >> note that , FEW - good points in their crusade for animals, is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > speak to the right person about how much you love your captive animals ( > pets). "Captive animals"... LOL...!! My best friend told me back twenty years ago that the SPCA's real agenda was to do away with all forms of private pet ownership. I told her she was crazy, but it looks like she was right. I want you to tell me how the animal will survive in the wild (especially after being de-clawed)? Not mention, many of our pets wouldn't even be here if it were not for the demand for ownership. They were f.cking BRED to be owned. Stupid moronic SOBs... Speak out against any and all animal rights groups. Do whatever you can against them. It's the best thing you kan do for the future of private pet ownership.. IBen Getiner > "Captive animals"... LOL...!! My best friend told me back twenty years > ago that the SPCA's real agenda was to do away with all forms of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > against them. It's the best thing you kan do for the future of private > pet ownership.. People confuse Animal Rights with Animal Welfare, and PETA, HSUS and SPCA count on that. <spit> SignatureLynne > > "Captive animals"... LOL...!! My best friend told me back twenty years > > ago that the SPCA's real agenda was to do away with all forms of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > pet ownership..People confuse Animal Rights with Animal Welfare, and PETA, HSUS and SPCA > count on that. <spit> apart from PETA i have not heard of the others you mention, what do the initials stadn for and what do they actually do? what is your equivalent of the RSPCA (royal society for prevention of cruelty to animals, looks after animal welfare inthis country whether it be pets, livestock, anything, sadly underfunded charity which does excellent work but often has it's hands tied as to prosecuting nasty animal abusers)? bookie > > >> True enough and sad that they own the name. PETA, while having a few - > > >> note that , FEW - good points in their crusade for animals, is [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > IBen Getiner It can go deeper than that! A friend of mine knew some AR individuals! They would have preferred to see elephants go extinct than to have them hunted for any reason! > > > >> True enough and sad that they own the name. PETA, while having a few - > > > >> note that , FEW - good points in their crusade for animals, is [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > individuals! They would have preferred to see elephants go extinct > than to have them hunted for any reason!- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Kooks. Mentally ill people. So hung up on their feeeeeelings that they forget that they also have a brain. Only a mentally ill or mentally imbalanced individual does what you just said. These are the same types of defectives who insisted that the already-overcrowded lifeboats return to the sea of drowning masses at the Titanic disaster. These people are CRAZY. We have a name for people like this.... LIBERALS. Remember this when you VOTE. You're not just voting a Republican out... You're also voting a mentally ill liberal KOOK IN. And one of THEM can do far more damage in four years than TEN Republican administrations... Hell, it takes us that long just to purge a four year liberal stain out of the flag. IBen Getiner "Captive animals"... LOL...!! My best friend told me back twenty years ago that the SPCA's real agenda was to do away with all forms of private pet ownership. I told her she was crazy, but it looks like she was right. I want you to tell me how the animal will survive in the wild (especially after being de-clawed)? Not mention, many of our pets wouldn't even be here if it were not for the demand for ownership. They were f.cking BRED to be owned. Stupid moronic SOBs... Speak out against any and all animal rights groups. Do whatever you can against them. It's the best thing you kan do for the future of private pet ownership.. IBen Getiner If it was up to me - there are plenty of people that should *not* be allowed to have any critters - period. :-( I'm totally against using any animals in labs, too. Kathy & Toma girl in spirit...>^.,.^< > I'm totally against using any > animals in labs, too. I'm not. I'm firmly against treating them inhumanely and I'm against uneccessary cosmetics and hair care products testing, but testing pharmaceuticals on humans just isn't possible. So what would you propose we do to develop life saving medications and treatments? My son wouldn't be alive if it weren't for animal testing. SignatureLynne "hantayo" <hantayo77@netins.net> wrote: >> I'm totally against using any >> animals in labs, too. > I'm not. I'm firmly against treating them inhumanely and I'm against > uneccessary cosmetics and hair care products testing, but testing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Lynne Hi Lynne, There are other ways & why can't they use humans? I happen to have Multiple Sclerosis & I'm still against using our fellow animals in labs. I guess that I was born without that belief that humans are more important than all other life. Sorry - it's just me. Kathy & Toma girl in spirit. >^.,.^< Toma girl's dedication web page: http://showcase.netins.net/web/motherearthfathersky/toma8k.html "All that moves is sacred - only by understanding this can you realize the rhythm of the earth - thereby know how to place your feet... http://showcase.netins.net/web/motherearthfathersky/ on Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:05:40 GMT, "hantayo" <hantayo77@netins.net> wrote: > There are other ways & why can't they use humans? I happen to have > Multiple Sclerosis & I'm still against using our fellow animals in > labs. I guess that I was born without that belief that humans are more > important than all other life. Sorry - it's just me. Well unless you truly value and protect all forms of life, including insects and spiders, I'd call bullshit on that. Are you a vegan? Do you own anything made of animal products? Do you feed your cats a strict vegan diet? (If the answer to that last one is yes, I'd say you really shouldn't have cats, by the way, because you are doing them a disservice...) I love animals far more than the average person, but I am a proponent of humane medical testing on animals and always will be. Let me stress _medical_ and _humane_, for clarification. It's foolish to think we can develop life saving medicines and treatments without it. Testing on humans does occur, but only at the proper stage of development of the product. Do you propose we risk killing people to do early testing of new drugs? People already die during clinical trials, imagine what would happen if they were the first test subjects? Imagine the lawsuits and the resulting cost of medicines! Or, wait, do you propose we don't test drugs at all?? To suggest either approach is quite naive. If you take any medications for your MS, they were tested on animals. By using them, you are benefiting from something you are against. Again, foolish. Also, hypocritical. SignatureLynne "hantayo" <hantayo77@netins.net> > wrote: > >> There are other ways & why can't they use humans? I happen to have >> Multiple Sclerosis & I'm still against using our fellow animals in >> labs. I guess that I was born without that belief that humans are more >> important than all other life. Sorry - it's just me. > Well unless you truly value and protect all forms of life, including > insects and spiders, I'd call bullshit on that. Are you a vegan? Do you > own anything made of animal products? Do you feed your cats a strict > vegan diet? (If the answer to that last one is yes, I'd say you really > shouldn't have cats, by the way, because you are doing them a > disservice...) I don't know why you are so pissed at me. Yes - I do have things that were made from animal products. And - *NO* - I don't feed my cats a vegan diet. The way I live my life is to try to leave as small of a footprint as I can. I gave up beef & pork 10 yrs ago & the only meat that I eat sometimes would be some fish. I'm not perfect but, at least I know that. > I love animals far more than the average person, but I am a proponent of > humane medical testing on animals and always will be. Let me stress [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > using them, you are benefiting from something you are against. Again, > foolish. Also, hypocritical. No - I don't take any meds for my M.S. - I'm P.P (Primary Progressive) & the drugs that are used anymore are not recommended for P.P. type. Besides I don't have any health care - I'm not poor enough for help in this country. I think calling me a hypocrite isn't very nice but, that's fine if that's how you feel toward me. Have a nice day.... Kathy & Toma girl in spirit. >^.,.^< on Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:50:55 GMT, "hantayo" <hantayo77@netins.net> wrote: > I don't know why you are so pissed at me. Yes - I do have things that > were [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that I eat sometimes would be some fish. I'm not perfect but, at least > I know that. I'm not pissed, and I'm definitely not perfect either! You are reading emotion into my posts that simply isn't there. I think you are naive and foolish about this issue, but I'm not suggesting you are naive and foolish in general. I don't know anything about you, except that you are an animal lover. I respect that, and I understand why you would feel the way that you do about animal testing, but I don't believe you have thought about all aspects of the issue. I noticed that you didn't respond to my questions about what you would suggest other than testing drugs on animals. You see, I really can't think of any feasible alternatives. Maybe one day, but that day is not here yet. SignatureLynne "hantayo" <hantayo77@netins.net> > wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> that I eat sometimes would be some fish. I'm not perfect but, at least >> I know that. > I'm not pissed, and I'm definitely not perfect either! You are reading > emotion into my posts that simply isn't there. I think you are naive and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Lynne I've heard that computer models are one way to go. And all I've done is to think of things from every angle I can. One thing I'm not is naive &/or foolish - seriously. I'm certainly old enough to have seen & been through some life changing experiences. Kathy > I've heard that computer models are one way to go. Riiiiiiiight. SignatureLynne > There are other ways & why can't they use humans? I happen to have > Multiple Sclerosis & I'm still against using our fellow animals in labs. I > guess that I was born without that belief that humans are more important > than all other life. Sorry - it's just me. Have you volunteered for drug studies yet? SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> There are other ways & why can't they use humans? I happen to have >> Multiple Sclerosis & I'm still against using our fellow animals in labs. >> I guess that I was born without that belief that humans are more >> important than all other life. Sorry - it's just me. > Have you volunteered for drug studies yet? No. My situation doesn't lend itself to doing that. And if all of you people need to pick on someone, in order to feel good about yourself, maybe you should find someone else. If you don't know I just lost the best friend I've ever had - my 15 yr 4 month old Toma girl - & I don't need this sh.t..........Kathy >>> There are other ways & why can't they use humans? I happen to have >>> Multiple Sclerosis & I'm still against using our fellow animals in labs. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > friend I've ever had - my 15 yr 4 month old Toma girl - & I don't need > this sh.t..........Kathy Hey, I just asked a simple question. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com on Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:13:28 GMT, "hantayo" <hantayo77@netins.net> wrote: > No. My situation doesn't lend itself to doing that. And if all of you > people need to pick on someone, in order to feel good about yourself, > maybe you should find someone else. If you don't know I just lost the > best friend I've ever had - my 15 yr 4 month old Toma girl - & I don't > need this sh.t. No one is picking on you. If it seems that way, it is not intentional. I think Cybercat asks a valid question. People who speak out against animal testing usually mean well but don't have a full understanding of the reality of it all. You threw out a statement in a discussion group. It is being discussed now. Abolishing medical testing on animals is just not possible. At least not in anyway I am aware of. OTOH, abolishing the testing of cosmetics, etc. is something that should have been done a long time ago, IMO. All that aside, if you need medication that you are not getting, you could possibly get them by volunteering for clinical trials. These are the last step before FDA approval and release to the public, and because of animal (and other) testing, it is generally very safe--but not always (nothing is, really). If you qualify, you would get the added bonus of having free medical care by a physician, related to the study, and your travel expenses would be paid. If you find you are suffering more than you should, you might consider looking into it. SignatureLynne "hantayo" <hantayo77@netins.net> > wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> best friend I've ever had - my 15 yr 4 month old Toma girl - & I don't >> need this sh.t. > No one is picking on you. If it seems that way, it is not intentional. > I think Cybercat asks a valid question. People who speak out against > animal testing usually mean well but don't have a full understanding of > the reality of it all. You threw out a statement in a discussion group. > It is being discussed now. Well - I'm feeling picked on & one reason is because I'm trying to learn how to live without Toma beside me. She was always there for me & now she isn't there. So now every time some thing happens it's the first time that I am going through it without Toma. If anybody out there has or is going through that - they'll understand what I'm talking about. I use to put my face in her fur & kiss her little head & now I don't know what to do. We've been together ever since she was born on Aug. 31, 1991. Anyway - I'm basically home bound & I live out in the middle of no where - miles from where they would be running any clinical trials. I don't go anywhere. Plus - like I said people that are P.P. are basically a lost cause. It's just the way it goes. Kathy > Abolishing medical testing on animals is just not possible. At least not > in anyway I am aware of. OTOH, abolishing the testing of cosmetics, etc. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > travel expenses would be paid. If you find you are suffering more than > you should, you might consider looking into it. > Well - I'm feeling picked on & one reason is because I'm trying to learn > how to live without Toma beside me. She was always there for me & now she [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > face in her fur & kiss her little head & now I don't know what to do. > We've been together ever since she was born on Aug. 31, 1991. I really do know how you feel. My 20-year old died in 2001. I still grieve for her. Two months after she died, I went to a shelter and adopted a young adult cat. Maybe when you are ready, you could let another little sweetie into your life. So many need the kind of love you have to give. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> Well - I'm feeling picked on & one reason is because I'm trying to learn >> how to live without Toma beside me. She was always there for me & now she [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> put my face in her fur & kiss her little head & now I don't know what to >> do. We've been together ever since she was born on Aug. 31, 1991. > I really do know how you feel. My 20-year old died in 2001. I still > grieve for her. > > Two months after she died, I went to a shelter and adopted a young > adult cat. Maybe when you are ready, you could let another little > sweetie into your life. So many need the kind of love you have to give. Sorry about biting your head off - I'm just having a devil of a day. I'm sorry that you lost your 20 yr old - it's so hard. :-( CRF is a horrible disease & it seems to be way too common anymore. We do have other cats but, they are outside cats. Toma didn't want any other critters living inside & since she was my house cat we did it her way. I've been working on trying to see if one of them would be willing to learn to use a litter box. Time will tell. Kathy & Toma girl in spirit. >^.,.^< > > I'm totally against using any > > animals in labs, too. <snip> > but testing > pharmaceuticals on humans just isn't possible. So what would you propose [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > Lynne She proposes to not think about that. IBen Getiner > "Captive animals"... LOL...!! My best friend told me back twenty years > ago that the SPCA's real agenda was to do away with all forms of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > If it was up to me - there are plenty of people that should *not* be > allowed to have any critters - period. :-( I think the same thing about some people having children. If I could, I would see to it that these 'some people' would never again breed. But the funny thing is, it would be people like you who would be the first ones up to try and shoot down any laws like that. > I'm totally against using any > animals in labs, too. > Kathy & Toma girl in spirit...>^.,.^< Why? Are you saying that hundreds of millions of humans should suffer needlessly just to save a few animals? You must not hold yourself as a member of the human race in very high esteem (that or you're a f.cking nut). You are far more valuable than a hundred animals. Not to me personally but to those who love you... You're obviously young. Your idealistic immaturity shines thru loud and clear. Just wait till you have kids and one of them has an agonizing and wasting disease. One that will surely bring a early end to their youthful days. And then in the midst of your initial sorrow, you learn that there is a treatment available. One that can restore some sense of normalcy to their lives. And you wouldn't take it simply because we used animals to discover it? And then you'd deny that to someone else's kid? You got your priorities all wrong. But don't worry... Life will straighten all that out for you, yes indeed...! Give it time. The one thing that you have plenty of. Now. IBen > "Captive animals"... LOL...!! My best friend told me back twenty years > ago that the SPCA's real agenda was to do away with all forms of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > If it was up to me - there are plenty of people that should *not* be > allowed to have any critters - period. :-( I think the same thing about some people having children. If I could, I would see to it that these 'some people' would never again breed. But the funny thing is, it would be people like you who would be the first ones up to try and shoot down any laws like that. > I'm totally against using any > animals in labs, too. > Kathy & Toma girl in spirit...>^.,.^< Why? Are you saying that hundreds of millions of humans should suffer needlessly just to save a few animals? You must not hold yourself as a member of the human race in very high esteem (that or you're a f.cking nut). You are far more valuable than a hundred animals. Not to me personally but to those who love you... You're obviously young. Your idealistic immaturity shines thru loud and clear. Just wait till you have kids and one of them has an agonizing and wasting disease. One that will surely bring a early end to their youthful days. And then in the midst of your initial sorrow, you learn that there is a treatment available. One that can restore some sense of normalcy to their lives. And you wouldn't take it simply because we used animals to discover it? And then you'd deny that to someone else's kid? You got your priorities all wrong. But don't worry... Life will straighten all that out for you, yes indeed...! Give it time. Time... the one thing that you have plenty of. For now. IBen Getiner > > Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > > by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at I...@peta.org and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Treatment of Animals is a misnomer and they have a pretty ugly history. Do > some research. Forgive my ignorance, but what does misnomer mean Lynne? S;o) > > > Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > > > by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at I...@peta.org and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Treatment of Animals is a misnomer and they have a pretty ugly history. Do > > some research.Forgive my ignorance, but what does misnomer mean Lynne? Only those who don't ask questions are ignorant :-) Misnomer means mis-named. > > > > Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > > > > by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at I...@peta.org and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Misnomer means mis-named. Thank you.It help's to understand. S:o) > Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at I...@peta.org and huma...@aspca.org > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > Remember to include the above URL for this video. You can clearly read the web address www.petspausa.com on the front of the machine. Probably best to voice your outrage to them first, and give them a chance to respond. The person posting the video did say they stopped the process early. The people in the store could probably use some training. They should be making sure they're dealing with one of those rare cats who doesn't mind water before they put him in. The website shows plenty of pictures of dogs in the thing, but no cats. They do mention cats in one part of the description. > Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at I...@peta.org and huma...@aspca.org > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > Remember to include the above URL for this video. is this the hideous one of the poor cat being traumatised out of it's brain? I agree that something needs to be done about this as it does seem to me to be animal cruelty to distress an animal that much, i mgiht try to send some thing to the manufacturers. not sure someone from outside the US of A can report something to their version of the RSPCA (is that what the ASPCA is?), thankfully along with declawing this hideous machine is not in my country and i very much doubt it will ever arrive (we ain't too bothered about mucky pups this side of the pond you know, we liek our animals earthy) bookie > Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at Info@peita.org and humaniel@aspca.org > > http://youtube.com/watc99h?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > Remember to include the above URL for this video. But It's got a 4-1/2 star rating! You're in the f.cking minority. I see no problem with it. It's people like YOU who have the problem. Always out to stifle other people's freedom of expression... And all because you're governed by your illogical and ever-changing feeeeeeelings.. LOL....!! IBen > > Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > > by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at I...@peita.org and human...@aspca.org [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > IBen oh just f.ck off you c.nt >Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty >by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at Info@peta.org and humanel@aspca.org >http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg >Remember to include the above URL for this video. Don't bother with the PETA. They don't give a sh.t about animals; they simply froth with hatred against mankind. >>Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty >>by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at Info@peta.org and humanel@aspca.org [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Don't bother with the PETA. They don't give a sh.t about animals; > they simply froth with hatred against mankind. I used to think that, too. That everything PETA had a political agenda attached to it. But this response seemed genuine and helpful: << Thank you for contacting PETA about the animal cruelty video you found on YouTube.com. We share your concern about this important issue; we have received many complaints about this video. The information has been forwarded to the appropriate staffers in our Domestic Animal and Wildlife Rescue & Information (DAWR&I) Department for their review. We also recommend you voice your concern by filing a complaint at http://www.ic3.gov, a Web-based reporting center developed by the FBI to combat Internet fraud and other forms of internet crime, being sure to stress the influence that this video may have on additional cases of cruelty. To learn more about actions you can take in response to Web sites depicting cruelty to animals, see http://www.PETA.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp. For more information about how you can help animals, please visit PETA’s Web site http://www.PETA.org/actioncenter. Thanks again for bringing this issue to our attention and for all you do to help animals! Sincerely, Elizabeth Collins Senior Correspondent People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals >> >>>Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty >>>by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at Info@peta.org and humanel@aspca.org [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Don't bother with the PETA. They don't give a sh.t about animals; >> they simply froth with hatred against mankind. >I used to think that, too. That everything PETA had a political agenda >attached to it. But this response seemed genuine and helpful: ><< Thank you for contacting PETA about the animal cruelty video you >found on YouTube.com. I just don't trust the extremists. I wouldn't put it past them to be staging the cruelty just to garner some support. on Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:47:21 GMT, AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: > I just don't trust the extremists. I wouldn't put it past them to be > staging the cruelty just to garner some support. There is no reason to suspect them in this case, but it is definitely PETA's MO. They are generally a hell of a lot more cruel when they stage animal abuse. <spit> SignatureLynne > on Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:47:21 GMT, AZ Nomad <aznoma...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > Lynne They're into mind control. They understand the power of mind control, especially when coupled with the vehicle of total mass-media support. Something that they wish for desperately, but thankfully as of this writing do not yet have. It's 'save the whales' today. A cause that most of sheep in this country went right down the primrose path with. But tomorrow it'll be... 'the law says you have to be a vegetarian because animals are people too'. You'd better watch where your step falls when lending any, and I do mean ANY support to these people. They're not crazy. They're evil. And they want more... MUCH more. IBen Getiner > >>Please show your outrage re the following sickening example of cruelty > >>by contacting PETA and the ASPCA at I...@peta.org and huma...@aspca.org [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I used to think that, too. That everything PETA had a political agenda > attached to it. But this response seemed genuine and helpful: Yes, as I'm sure the Communists first appeared to be. f.cking moron.... The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Use your brain, if you have one. > << Thank you for contacting PETA about the animal cruelty video you > found on YouTube.com. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > We also <snip mind-rot> > do to help animals! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Senior Correspondent > People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals >>- Hide quoted text - IOW: Mentally ill, morally displaced KOOK.... IBen Getiner |
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