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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2007Proof we suck as a species
http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg And what's worse, the comments below show a lot of people actually thought this was funny. I think I'm going to throw up... > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > And what's worse, the comments below show a lot of people actually > thought this was funny. I think I'm going to throw up... that is absolutely, awful the poor cat is completely traumatised, whoever invented and built that machine needs a f.cking kicking and I will happily hand it out to them, and also to anyone who puts their cats into it. inthe main, cats don't like water, they don't need to be washed like this, if you are going to bathe your cat you need to start them young and do it gently so they get used to the process, you do not shove a fully grown adult cat into a small box and then submit them to hot water jetting onto them from all angles, totally unnecessary. the whole idea is just cruel and anyone who puts their cat in it should be reported for animal abuse. and yes the fact that alot of people thought that this animals suffering and distress was funny makes me seethe with anger, I hope something really nasty happens to all of them soon, something involving petrol and a lit match perhaps, or maybe an out-of-control chainsaw. bookie > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > And what's worse, the comments below show a lot of people actually > thought this was funny. I think I'm going to throw up... That was sickeningly cruel. I literally got nauseated, watching that poor cat in that thing. I hope he didn't hurt himself.  SignatureLynne > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > And what's worse, the comments below show a lot of people actually thought > this was funny. I think I'm going to throw up... What a disgusting thing to do to that poor little cat. The owners of that pet supply store (and the cat's "owners," as well) should be locked in that same torture chamber for awhile to see how funny they think it is. One of those animal rescue groups really should look into this! MaryL On 26 Jan, 03:46, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > >http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > MaryL For all the good that It might do..(because we have no idea whewre this originate's from, ) I have done precisley that. I fowarded it to the Rspca.If anyone this side of the pond posted it, I have complete faith that they will track them down. It was disgusting! S;o( >>http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > same torture chamber for awhile to see how funny they think it is. One of > those animal rescue groups really should look into this! I already notified them via email. More outrage couldn't hurt, though. Here's their contact info.: Info@peta.org and humanel@aspca.org >>>http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Info@peta.org and humanel@aspca.org Thanks for the information. I'm sending email to the Humane Society. MaryL >>>http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Info@peta.org and humanel@aspca.org Here is the email address for the Humane Society of the US: www.hsus.org This is the contact page: http://www.hsus.org/contact_us/ MaryL on Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:14:22 GMT, "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE- LITTER> wrote: > Here is the email address for the Humane Society of the US: www.hsus.org > This is the contact page: > http://www.hsus.org/contact_us/ The HSUS is also against pet ownership, FYI. They are not affiliated with Humane Society shelters. http://www.thehiddenenemy.com/ SignatureLynne > on Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:14:22 GMT, "MaryL" > <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE- [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.thehiddenenemy.com/ I can't speak directly tothe article you linked. I can tell you that the local Humane Society serves as an advisory board to the animal shelter and performs a lot of services for them. Many of our adoptions can be attributed directly to involvement of the Humane Society, and the director of the Humane Society works with the animal shelter to do follow-up visits to adoptive homes. In fact, I did that myself for some time (but that was a number of years ago). Some of the current literature I have from the national organization includes information such as "Providing for Your Pet's Future Without You" (making arrangements with a friend, provisions in a will, etc.) and window decals to indicate the number of cats and dogs that are in the house (for emergency personnel). Nowhere in the literature is there any suggestion that we should not have pets. MaryL on Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:32:05 GMT, "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > I can't speak directly tothe article you linked. I can tell you that > the local Humane Society serves as an advisory board to the animal [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > house (for emergency personnel). Nowhere in the literature is there > any suggestion that we should not have pets. Like I said, your local Humane Society and all Humane Society shelters are not in any way affiliated with the HSUS (Humane Society of the United States). They have completely different agendas. SignatureLynne > on Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:32:05 GMT, "MaryL" > <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > not in any way affiliated with the HSUS (Humane Society of the United > States). They have completely different agendas. Lynne, I am going to try to look into this some more because I am somewhat skeptical of the information provided. I suspect that the site you mentioned may be in opposition to the HSUS because HSUS does oppose game hunting -- but as far as I know, it does *not* oppose pet ownership. As a matter of fact, the town where I live had a large number of evacuees from Hurricane Katrina and especially from Hurricane Rita. Several hundred animals of all kinds -- cats, dogs, horses, birds, etc. -- were also taken in and given shelter. A number of HSUS volunteers out of Dallas arrived within two days and worked around the clock to help the animal shelter. They also paid for cages, leashes, food, and various other supplies. I am going to call the director of the animal shelter on Monday and will verify my information, but I have already talked to one of the women with a local cat rescue group who worked with the HSUS volunteers on this project. MaryL on Sun, 28 Jan 2007 01:47:14 GMT, "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT- THE-LITTER> wrote: > I am going to try to look into this some more because I am somewhat > skeptical of the information provided. From the HSUS's own website: http://www.hsus.org/pets/animal_shelters/what_the_hsus_does_for_shelters/ "At The Humane Society of the United States, we receive numerous inquiries about our role with local shelters. The HSUS is not a parent organization for local humane societies, animal shelters, or animal care and control agencies. Each is an independent organization, governed by its own bylaws and board of directors (in the case of humane societies), or local ordinances and officials (in the case of animal care and control agencies). Funding for local humane societies largely comes from donations and bequests. Animal care and control programs are generally funded by the local government." The HSUS and your local shelters are not affiliated in anyway. The HSUS does not fund or have any association whatsoever with your local Humane Society shelters. They say so themselves. The HSUS is first and foremost an Animal Rights organization. Again, I'm not talking about your local Humane Society shelter. They are completely unrelated. The HSUS intentionally confuses the public with very, very carefully worded publications that have photos of sweet cats and dogs, but they do nothing to take care of stray or sick animals, shelter them, or provide spay and neuter programs. They intentionally mislead animal lovers. Their primary agenda is to abolish dairy and meat production, stop all pet breeding, end hunting, end animal research, etc. They haven't always been an AR organization, but they very clearly are now, and they have been for the better part of 2 decades now. Don't take my word for it, or the word of the average employee in a Humane Society shelter who also probably doesn't understand the disctinction between them and the HSUS. Do your own research. The only reason I care to point out these distinctions is that I hate to see people donate to Peta, the SPCA and the HSUS when they don't understand what their money is being used for. These organizations are not the least bit cash poor--quite the opposite, in fact. And their methods are They prey on animal lovers and divert money from where it could really make a difference: your local shelters and rescue organizations. Another link, not so radical, and there are thousands more like it: http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/136 SignatureLynne > on Sun, 28 Jan 2007 01:47:14 GMT, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT- > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > -- > Lynne er... i checked that wesbite out for thwe HSUS and lokoing through it's pages found this one... http://www.hsus.org/about_us/policy_statements/ principles_and_beliefs.html and also this one... http://www.hsus.org/about_us/policy_statements/ statement_on_companion.html neither of which seem to be against the concept of pet ownership, and in fact seem to advocate it, apart from the obvious of exotic species which should be left in the wild and are not really suitable to be domesticated or kept in a home. Yes there is one line in the policy on companion animals (i think) about wanting to increase spaying and neutering programs and encouraging owners to do so in order to REDUCE the amount of pet breeding going on so that there are no longer lots of unwanted kitties etc being made homeless, which is pretty much what a lot of animal welfare groups strive for, but nothing about stopping people breeding pets altogether. this is what I have found just looking through the website, all seems fairly civilised to me, but if i have missed something which says they are against pets and the like then can someone find it and point it out or give the link? anyway, whatever, I have a cantankerous cat to try to cajole into using her new kitty radiator hammock, not having much luck right now Bookie > http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/136 Lynne, thanks for posting this information. It is a more reasoned approach than the other site, but I really think that *both* of them are engaging in some creative journalism -- in other words, I do not find anythin in HSUS policies that I can interpret as being "against" pet ownership. In fact, the president of our local Alley Cat Allies forwarded a newsletter from HSUS that she received today. A major purpose of this newsletter is to advocate participation in the February spay/neuter campaign (yes, they look for donations, but it also lists other means of participation). Here is the page that describes the February spay/neuter program: http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/pet_overpopulation_and_owners hip_statistics/spay_day_usa/ There are several links within the newsletter that can be seen as descriptive of HSUS principles. Clearly, there are statements that oppose breeding -- but just as clearly, it opposes breeding because that leads to overpopulation and the *tragedy* (their word) of euthanasia. The following link from the HSUS page provided *pet adoption information* (which does not equate to "opposition" to pet adoption): http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_adoption_information/ I really was not confusing shelters and Humane Societies. I was only giving an example of our local Humane Society, which serves as an advisory board to the animal shelter (which is operated by the city). Several shelters in this area are both animal shelters and animal control facilities -- which can be an illustration opposing forces/goals in itself. I drove to a neighboring town to adopt Duffy, and he was housed in one of the shelter/animal control combined facilities. (I really am very lucky that he was kept alive for several months because they often keep animals in their care for only 14 days.) However, local Humane Societies (at least, some that I am familiar with) are affiliated with HSUS. MaryL > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > MaryL The look on that cats face is a very pissed off look. I wouldn't be surprised it the cat clawed out the eyes of it's human. Cats as a general rule don't need to be bathed. They're self cleaners and they do quite an effective job. However some cats, particularly fat cats cannot clean themselves. Luckily they're big and slow enough that standard bathing isn't an issue. > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > And what's worse, the comments below show a lot of people actually thought > this was funny. I think I'm going to throw up... Now thats just mean and those people are idiots. Idiots are aren't the only people known for "stupid cat stunts" though. Even smart people engage in them from time to time. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Krq37IWOpIk Now, this one I kind of giggle at because it doesn't look like there was much potential for the cat to be physically harmed, but he sure couldn't have been happy... There was no science involved. The cat was literally sneaked onboard the aircraft by this guy: http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/shaw-bh.html One of those, "Hey, I wonder what what happen if..." things... > Idiots are aren't the only people known for "stupid cat stunts" though. > Even smart people engage in them from time to time. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > aircraft by this guy: > http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/shaw-bh.html I've heard of someone else (another NASA pilot if I remember correctly) who tried the same thing with a cat in a single seat fighter. The story goes that the cat responded to zero-g by clamping onto the pilots arm, digging in with all claws, and not letting go until safely back on terra firma and out of the plane. Poetic justice, to my mind. SignatureDave not-me should be djw401 and there's no need for any wossname > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg > > And what's worse, the comments below show a lot of people actually thought > this was funny. I think I'm going to throw up... What complete a.ses.... And this is being done by people in the pet business? Their webpage address here: http://www.launderpet.com/Pet%20Spa.htm Locations and contact info here: http://www.launderpet.com/Our%20Location.htm People this airheaded and cruel desrve elimination................ >>http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > People this airheaded and cruel desrve elimination................ Thank you for that info... > http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg Thanks for the vid link. That was some hilarious sh.t! That cat was jumping like a cricket on a grill! LOFL!!!
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