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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2007Ping: Rene S Re: Need help with anorexic cat
"Rene S." <rschweitzer@kalmbach.com> wrote in message news:1169240154.609585.266230@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... <Snip> > In the meantime, have you tried a fish-flavored variety of Fancy Feast? > Ordinarily, I would not encourage feeding this kind of good, but many > cats like it. A previous vet I used called it "McDonalds for cats." > > Rene Rene, Can you expand on this statement "McDonalds for cats"? I'm not trolling you on this. We just got a brand new 3 mo old kitten over Christmas and we're feeding him Fancy Feast and Whiskas dry. Are we doing him a disservice in some way? He loves the stuff. It IS the higher priced kitty chow but not as much as the Iams or Science Diet. We're overseas and obtain our meow chow through the military commissary so we're fairly limited on choice. We use a local vet instead of the Army vet because it is a *itch to get an appointment. Local vet pretty much says feed what he'll eat just not too much. The main reason you perked my interest on this is our last meowzer died unexpecedly last year at age 12 and the local vet said it was - are you ready for this - a possible heart attack. Just your thoughts on the Mikkie D 4 kitties thing. Thanks Alan There are a few of us on this list that think that Fancy Feast with meat as the main item it the bestg feed for our kitties. I have consistantly had kitties live to 20 on this food alone. > <Snip> > > In the meantime, have you tried a fish-flavored variety of Fancy Feast? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Thanks > Alan > Can you expand on this statement "McDonalds for cats"? I'm not trolling > you on this. We just got a brand new 3 mo old kitten over Christmas and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks > Alan Alan, When my previous vet said this, she meant that the Fancy Feast was the equivilant of junk food for cats and not a high-quality food. (However, in the OP's case, eating some food and gaining weight was better than the cat not eating and wasting away, which is why I mentioned it.) I personally have stopped using grocery-store brand foods such as FF because they use fillers and other ingredients I can't pronounce. For instance, here's an example of the ingredient list of FF: Brewers rice, poultry by-product meal, corn gluten meal, ground yellow corn, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soybean meal, animal digest [note: what the hell is that!?], chicken, turkey, brewers dried yeast, phosphoric acid, calcium carbonate, natural and artificial flavors, potassium chloride, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, salt, choline chloride, added color (Red 40, Yellow 5, Blue 2 and other color), taurine, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, niacin, manganese sulfate, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite. A-5120 To contrast, here's the ingredient for Nature's Variety raw organic chicken, which is what I now feed: Organic Chicken, Organic Ground Chicken Bone, Organic Chicken Liver, Organic Chicken Heart, Organic Chicken Gizzard, Organic Whole Eggs, Organic Bok Choy, Organic Carrots, Organic Apples, Organic Pears, Organic Persimmons, Organic Flaxseed Oil, Montmorillonite, Organic Yogurt, Organic Alfalfa Sprouts, Organic Parsley, Organic Blueberries. I understand that you have limited availability on what you can obtain. My best advice is to search a little online and read the ingredient lists. You will be surprised at what you find. Rene Thank you for the response. Got some looking to do - Alan > > Can you expand on this statement "McDonalds for cats"? I'm not trolling > > you on this. We just got a brand new 3 mo old kitten over Christmas and [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Rene > Thank you for the response. > Got some looking to do - Alan, all FF varieties are not created equal, and in fact their formula has recently been changed. Tender Beef Feast, for example, is one of several varieties that has beef aka real meat, fish, or poultry as a FIRST ingredient, not byproducts or meal. It is a quality food. > Thank you for the response. P.S. Cats do not need blueberries, pears, or apples, and the "organic" selling point is another one that appeals to humans, jacks the cost, but doesn't do much for cats, if anything. Yeah, ever try to feed apples to a cat? ...Although our Kirby (R.I.P.) would help himself to whatever cereal you were having if you let him. > > Thank you for the response. > > P.S. Cats do not need blueberries, pears, or apples, and the "organic" > selling point is another one that appeals to humans, jacks the cost, but > doesn't do much for cats, if anything. > Yeah, ever try to feed apples to a cat? Both of my boys love apples and applesauce, and the little one likes orange juice, too. This was all discovered accidentally, the little thieves.  SignatureLynne > on Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:58:39 GMT, "Alan" <RonZacapa@Centenario.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > orange juice, too. This was all discovered accidentally, the little > thieves. I have pictures of one of mine eating (licking, actually) at an apple that we offered him. started when he was about 3-4 months old, and now the 3 1/2 years old, he still likes apples. Guess ya just never know... > > on Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:58:39 GMT, "Alan" <RonZacapa@Centenario.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > we offered him. started when he was about 3-4 months old, and now the 3 1/2 > years old, he still likes apples. > > Thank you for the response. > > P.S. Cats do not need blueberries, pears, or apples, and the "organic" > selling point is another one that appeals to humans, jacks the cost, but > doesn't do much for cats, if anything. cybercat, The organic chicken is only one of the types I feed. The other is chicken and turkey. There is no perfect cat food on the market, but ones like Nature's Variety try and imitate what a cat would eat in the wild, 95% or so meat and 5% veggies (based on the idea that a cat would consume whatever was his prey's stomach). > Can you expand on this statement "McDonalds for cats"? I'm not trolling > you on this. We just got a brand new 3 mo old kitten over Christmas and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks > Alan Alan, When my previous vet said this, she meant that the Fancy Feast was the equivilant of junk food for cats and not a high-quality food. (However, in the OP's case, eating some food and gaining weight was better than the cat not eating and wasting away, which is why I mentioned it.) I personally have stopped using grocery-store brand foods such as FF because they use fillers and other ingredients I can't pronounce. For instance, here's an example of the ingredient list of FF: Brewers rice, poultry by-product meal, corn gluten meal, ground yellow corn, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soybean meal, animal digest [note: what the hell is that!?], chicken, turkey, brewers dried yeast, phosphoric acid, calcium carbonate, natural and artificial flavors, potassium chloride, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, salt, choline chloride, added color (Red 40, Yellow 5, Blue 2 and other color), taurine, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, niacin, manganese sulfate, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite. A-5120 To contrast, here's the ingredient for Nature's Variety raw organic chicken, which is what I now feed: Organic Chicken, Organic Ground Chicken Bone, Organic Chicken Liver, Organic Chicken Heart, Organic Chicken Gizzard, Organic Whole Eggs, Organic Bok Choy, Organic Carrots, Organic Apples, Organic Pears, Organic Persimmons, Organic Flaxseed Oil, Montmorillonite, Organic Yogurt, Organic Alfalfa Sprouts, Organic Parsley, Organic Blueberries. I understand that you have limited availability on what you can obtain. My best advice is to search a little online and read the ingredient lists. You will be surprised at what you find. Rene |
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