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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2007HOW TO FATTEN A CAT UP(AS OPPOSED TO REDUCING ONE'S WEIGHT)
I have one cat that has just got over a nasty case of ringworm after her owner neglected to tell me it came as an added extra free bonus..!!You have no idea how ungrateful I am towards her..believe me?!This is irrelevant really, the point is,I have tried all sorts of diets and potions to try & get her to gain a bit more weight-including science plan,kitten food,wet food,dry food fresh meat for extra protien...conditioning tablets,protien supplements and even minced beef mixed with oily fish,but none of them seem to have made any difference at all.Since bringing her home, she has gained the sum total of 250grams in a space of 4months.Other than the lack of weight gain,she has had good blood results,& no lurgy's found-seems perfectly happy,but looks like a bag of bones, poor thing.We have a multi cat household with several varieties of cats including hienz 57's,birmans & a couple of ragdolls.Compared to even the stray we took in a day or so ago,she looks neglected at a quick glance.Being a Birman,her natural build should be quite solid & stocky.But this is not the case with her, she looks half starved!Has anyone else ever encountered a problem like this before,& if so, how did you deal with it,& make it work for you? S. > I have one cat that has just got over a nasty case of ringworm after ..else ever encountered a problem like > this before,& if so, how did you deal with it,& make it work for you? > S. have you allowed him as much time to gain the weight as it took him to lose it? > I have one cat that has just got over a nasty case of ringworm after > her owner neglected to tell me it came as an added extra free [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > this before,& if so, how did you deal with it,& make it work for you? > S. jsut an idea and it may not be a good one but...you coudl try giving her food for very active young cats or maybe kitten food? active cat type food may have more calories and energy in it and be what she sneeds to gain weight, i don't know if that is a good idea. Also kitten food may be more easily digestible than ordinary adult food and may have more protein etc as it is designed for fast growing little furry bodies and again this may be just what she needs. i don't really know but that is what i would probably try. ask at tyour local cats protection branch for help and advice too, they are alway having to rehabilitate and feed up emaciated cats then have rescued so they may know a few tricks. what is your area? you should have a branch near you. it is christmas night and there is f*ck all on tv, not even a bond film, bollocks > it is christmas night and there is f*ck all on tv, not even a bond > film, bollocks you kiss your cat with that mouth? HAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHA IM GLAD THERE'S NOTHING ON YOUR TV I GOT 300 CHANNELS OF HD BLOCKBUSTERS IN FACT I HAPPEN TO BE HAVING A BONDATHON, I do it every christmas right now, we're watching octapussy > > it is christmas night and there is f*ck all on tv, not even a bond > > film, bollocks [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > right now, we're watching octapussy bollocks to you then, i have 5 channels, crap on all 5 of them, i could plug in my freeview box thingy and get some more channels but can't be bothered with it and it would mean having to unplug some of my christmas lights to power it up. might have to stick on the jackass movie dvd my brother gave me today, wonder if it any different from the jackass movie dvd I already have, soon see. bah humbug > jackass movie dvd I already have, soon see. > > bah humbug well, better than nothing, it is funny i've seen one or all of them I guess. I seen the one where dude goes into a hardware store and takes a crap in the display toilet HE REALLY DID IT TOO, sitting back reading an upside down paper funny thing was.. he messed up the first time.. he crapped his pants on the way into the store.. so he had to wait, and go eat, and wait.. lol > > jackass movie dvd I already have, soon see. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > funny thing was.. he messed up the first time.. he crapped his pants on > the way into the store.. so he had to wait, and go eat, and wait.. lol that is a particularly good scene, not sure which is my favourite, that one or the one where one of the guys puts toy car up my back passage then goes to see a doctor pretending he doesnt' know what is wrong with him > > jackass movie dvd I already have, soon see. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > funny thing was.. he messed up the first time.. he crapped his pants on > the way into the store.. so he had to wait, and go eat, and wait.. lol did I say my back passage, i meant HIS back passage > IM GLAD THERE'S NOTHING ON YOUR TV > I GOT 300 CHANNELS OF HD BLOCKBUSTERS > IN FACT I HAPPEN TO BE HAVING A BONDATHON, I do it every christmas > > right now, we're watching octapussy Barry!You shock me...I thought we wern't going to play this game anymore?:o( Be nice *please*? S. > > right now, we're watching octapussy > Barry!You shock me...I thought we wern't going to play this game > anymore?:o( > Be nice *please*? > S. yeah, lol you're right, that was bad instead of bookie, it's brokie AND YOU TOO SHEELAGH brokie#2 the annual "gift man" got all of your blue money there's always next year to get even (makes no sense, I just liked the dynamics of the phrase) > > > right now, we're watching octapussy > > Barry!You shock me...I thought we wern't going to play this game [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > there's always next year to get even (makes no sense, I just liked the > dynamics of the phrase) Tee Hee,It's very true too (me!) S. > jsut an idea and it may not be a good one but...you coudl try giving > her food for very active young cats or maybe kitten food? active cat [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > it is christmas night and there is f*ck all on tv, not even a bond > film, bollocks Having ripped thier way through every spare penny I had this year in 10minutes flat ,they are now either otherwise occupied,or have other thoughts on their minds-My thoughts exactly re:T.v-it was either do that, or engage in intelligent conversation with my teenagelads who would all rather be somewhere else right now(@ their girlfriends in other words)..14,15 &17 year old.Being a teacher,need I say more? Ok,best start@ the begining& work my way forwards.I got her in begining of september,& she lost 500grams from the day I got her home,until mid October.At that point I went back to the vet & she put her on science plan.She was on that for just over a month & gained 100grams!When we got to bag number 2,I questioned whether she thought it was worth it,& she agreed that we didn't seem to be getting anywhere,so we went for plan two(below) ,>>the point is,I have tried all sorts of > > diets and potions to try & get her to gain a bit more weight-including > > science plan,kitten food,wet food,dry food fresh meat for extra > > protien...conditioning tablets,protien supplements and even minced > > beef mixed with oily fish,but none of them seem to have made any > > difference at all Plan two was to try kitten food, so we swapped her onto Royal Canin kitten food as well as a wet 4times a day -diet of one can of whiskers,alternated daily with one meal being ground beef& oily fish too.Since mid October until now, she has actually gained a further 150grams, but I would have hoped that she would have gained a bit more than that given the amount of food that she is actually eating.In point of fact, she gets more to eat a day than my big males are & they are packing wieght on,where as she isn't?!! > i don't really know but that is what i would probably try. ask at your > local cats protection branch for help and advice too, they are alway > having to rehabilitate and feed up emaciated cats then have rescued so > they may know a few tricks. what is your area? you should have a branch > near you. I have had a word with them too,& the only other other suggestion that they had was for me to try her on Cimmi-cat as well to see if that makes any difference to her.(I live in the cambs area by the way).Cimmi-Cat is a powder formula milk that they give to lactating queens and thier kittens to help them maintain their weight whilst lactating for kittens-so that it takes the pressure off mummy feeding a large litter.I happened to have about a quarter of a can here from the last litter we had ,so I have started her on it& she is gulping it down like it's going out of production?!Only problem is that it is also giving her the side effect of *the dreaded squitz*!!!So now I don't know whether to keep giving it to her, or knock it on the head... I think you are right.I will have to get back to them and ask for further advice on this one. It isn't that she won't eat;far from it, she never stops when it is placed in front of her.It is not worms, because I wormed her just over 3weeks ago on drontal.(unless there are worms that it does not cover that I'm not aware of?) I will try & add a link to a photo of her for you to see what you think. She is ecver so hairy,so maybe you wouldn't notice@ first glance, but under all that big fluffy winter coat, she weighs so little that it worry's me:( I do realise that she is still recovering,but the point is that she is eating such a lot, that you would have thought she would be gaining far more than she is. I keep thinking that there is something that I am missing here-the question is,what? On a foot note,lol,your right about the digi box-I did it earlier,& guess what...little britain,sky news or some poxy documentory on binge eating britain.Brillaint-Bring back Michael Grade,all is forgiven-we need you to give us a few decent movies again.Thanks for your thoughts on this one-if anything does come to mind, shout again if you would please? Thanks:o) S. http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sheelaghmadden/TiggieTabitha >I have one cat that has just got over a nasty case of ringworm after > her owner neglected to tell me it came as an added extra free [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > this before,& if so, how did you deal with it,& make it work for you? > S. First, have you discussed this with your veterinarian? She may have problems in addition to those caused by ringworm. Second, Duffy was very thin when I adopted him. He had been in a shelter for several months, and they said he did not eat well. (Who can blame him?) I used Innova canned, and he steadily gained weight. Once he reached his normal weight, I changed to a diet that consists primarily of Wellness canned plus some Innova Evo canned. MaryL > >I have one cat that has just got over a nasty case of ringworm after > > her owner neglected to tell me it came as an added extra free [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > MaryL I agree. If this cat has an appetite, and has been offered all the things the OP mentioned, something is wrong if she still looks like a bag of bones after four months. Even Biskit, who was truly a bag of bones, beefed up quite well after that much time. Sherry > > >I have one cat that has just got over a nasty case of ringworm after > > > her owner neglected to tell me it came as an added extra free [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > bag of bones after four months. Even Biskit, who was truly a bag of > bones, beefed up quite well after that much time. I have to agree that my worst nighmare scenario is that there is indeed another problem that remains undiagnosed too.I am going to add a link here so that you can see what I mean about the difference in their appearnce.(I mean the Birman chunky normal look, and Tiggy's tiny pettiteframe compared to them) http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/sheelaghmadden/TiggieTabitha > Sherry > >I have one cat that has just got over a nasty case of ringworm after > > her owner neglected to tell me it came as an added extra free [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > First, have you discussed this with your veterinarian? She may have > problems in addition to those caused by ringworm. Yes,I got the initial bag of science Plan from her when I took Tiggy to her about the wieght issue.It was about 2weeks after the ringworm was diagnosed,so she put it down to that at the time.But In my gutt,I have a feeling that you could be right.Yesterday after diner was cooked,I took the rest of the meat off the carcus,then shared it between the cats.Tiggy wolfed her's down & gthen returned to her bead & went to lie straight back down again.(when the others started to preen themselve's,stretched,took some water,used the box ect). > Second, Duffy was very thin when I adopted him. He had been in a shelter > for several months, and they said he did not eat well. (Who can blame him?) > I used Innova canned, and he steadily gained weight. Once he reached his > normal weight, I changed to a diet that consists primarily of Wellness > canned plus some Innova Evo canned. > MaryL I found out from the Rspca,several weeks after we got her, that she had been housed in a rabbit run for over 2months.Whether this has any baring or not,I can not say?It must have had some effect on her,&I am not sure if this could it have been where she picked up the ringworm? The two brands of food that you tell me about are unfamiliar to me(we live in the Uk).I wonder if it might be worth calling the cat protection league to see what they use in their own shelter?But as you point out yourself-it might not the be the best place to find out! She eats pouches of whiskers kitten meat,Royal Canin kitten dry complete,as well as a protion of minced beef every other day,mixed with an oily fish(makrel presently).She has conditioning tablets with extra protien & also any tit bits I happen across,like the turkey yesterday.The clinic opens again tomorrow,so I think I will give her a call to see if she can fit Tiggy in to her schedule.Something feels incorrect. S. Ps:If anyone knows of a calorie booster available in the Uk, can you let me know about it please? > Ps:If anyone knows of a calorie booster available in the Uk, can you > let me know about it please? Is NutraCal available in the UK? It is often used in the US as a dietary supplement/calorie booster. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e > > Ps:If anyone knows of a calorie booster available in the Uk, can you > > let me know about it please? > Is NutraCal available in the UK? It is often used in the US as a dietary > supplement/calorie booster. > > MaryL I am afraid I am not familiar with that one either-but that does not mean that it doesn't exist.I am going to have a little mini search on the Pc, to see what we can get over here.I am certain that some of these brands must be available, even if it means ordering on-line.I am sure that some of them must be?! > Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< > Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf > Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o > Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e I have to say that I have been folowing some of your postings for some time now & got really interested & involved with the exchange between Yourself & Bookie too, about the adoption of a blind cat. Your photos of Duffy & Holly are inspirational,& I have to say that the I loved all of them,but most of all, the* Kitty Ballet* one made me howl with laughter...Excellent Photos,please keep them coming? And thanks for the advice too by the way. S:o) > I have to say that I have been folowing some of your postings for some > time now & got really interested & involved with the exchange between [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And thanks for the advice too by the way. > S:o) Thanks, Sheelagh. I think I have a camera permanently attached to my right arm and can never resist taking lots of pics of Holly and Duffy. MaryL > > I have to say that I have been folowing some of your postings for some > > time now & got really interested & involved with the exchange between [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > MaryL You are most welcome:o)I can see why as well! You must have had to put a lot of forethought into getting ready to bring Duffy home,& Holly also must have had played a very big part in welcoming him too? I took a lot of time looking through all of the photos, & it would appear that the carpet all over the top of your units must have helped Duffy in finding his way around also?Big B will have a field day on me for saying this, but I have to all the same-It is such an Inspirational story that you share here.Duffy & Holly were ever so lucky to find you.So many people would have walked on by Duffy,rather than even try to give him the chance that you did. It has even made me consider the idea as well.But in my circumstances,I am not sure that it would be appropriate-I have too many lodgers here to be able to devote the attention that I think that such a speacial cat would deserve.Nevertheless,I enjoy every single update,& maybe,.... one day a bit further down the line..If I am ever in the right position,I would most certainly "not just walk on by",now that I have heard how little your circumstances did have to change to acommadate Duffy to your home. It has also given me a huge insight to the possiblities of rehabilitation,that I would most certainly consider trying too.But that will be another story later down the line.Well done to you,your family ,Holly & Duffy as well. I can't wait to hear Bookie's installment's & hopefully a few photos too-Photos do tend to speak volumes when you see them,don't they? I also look forward to your's too.Well done to you all! S:o) > I found out from the Rspca,several weeks after we got her, that she had > been housed in a rabbit run for over 2months.Whether this has any > baring or not,I can not say? eh? i thought that this was the cat you got from a breeder? or is this another cat? rabbit run? why? is she a cruelty case or something? sorry can't actually add anythign more about how to feed up a cat, cats just seem to eneter my house and get instantly obese, probably comes from having a house of 3 adults all of whom think the others are not feeding the cat enough actually what about things like eggs yolks or cheese occasionally? It is the same cat & I did report it Bookie.I got her from a breeder in Hampshire.She claimed to be getting rid of her cats so that she could concentrate on the small holding that they had just leased(I would NEVER Have guessed what would happen following collecting her from what I saw of the farmhouse though!).But when I found out that poor Tigg's had ringworm & had obviously had it for sometime too-I decided to try & contact the other breeder that I met there,buying all *7Bengalis* from her, to see if she had the same problem that I did too-& guess what..???OF COURSE She did of course!!At that point, I went straight to the Rspca,as did the breeder that bought all 7Bengali cats from her as well,& *we both reported the case to the Rspca.* It is a cruelty case ,& will be heard in court on the monday 5th feb 07.All animals were removed from the farm in question,& both the bengali breeder & I have to apprear to testify on Mon 5th Feb 07.(they would never have removed all of the animals if they thought for one moment that they wouldn't get a guilty verdict, would they?) When the Rspca came to visit us, they asked how much we had seen of the small holding,& several other questions- they Also showed us some of the photos that they took.It was horrifying..!!!! I have no regrets at all either!I have never had to do anything like this before,but I am determind to see it through! If it was not for the impending court case I would tell you her name also,if only to name and shame her-but I am restrained by law from doing so until the case has been heard.(we are all inoccent until proven guilty & that bollux).I can assure you that I will name her as soon as the case is over,because I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that she will be found guilty!! Apparently all *10*cats(there were another 2that had already been homed before either the bengali breeder or myself got there)- were being kept in an large rabbit run.There were some 12 pigs found in the sty,feeding on one of the pigs that had died from starvation too!!I have no doubt that this one will hit the press because of the dreadful currcumstances they were found in.I will tell you more after the case is heard. > sorry can't actually add anythign more about how to feed up a cat, cats > just seem to eneter my house and get instantly obese, probably comes > from having a house of 3 adults all of whom think the others are not > feeding the cat enough > actually what about things like eggs yolks or cheese occasionally? She does have some of both, as well as of the other tit bits we have left over too.That is exactly why I am so concerned.The problem of course,is that because she is not actually loosing wieght,but gaining all be it slightly, I am told not to be overly concerned-the problem is, that I am! Her behaiviour is probably the most concerning-she will do anything that she can to hide from the other cats, or climb beyond their reach.I think I have myself a real problem here:( S. > It is the same cat & I did report it Bookie.I got her from a breeder in > Hampshire.She claimed to be getting rid of her cats so that she could [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > think I have myself a real problem here:( > S. where si the case to be heard? where was the small holding? i know you cannot give oput the woman's name or anything but knowing when and where the case will be heard will make it easier to follow it. Sometimes stuff about animal cruelty does not hit the national press but only features in local press, unless it is huge like the one about the 100-odd yorkshire terriers found in disgusting conditions in a puppy farm in sussex after the old dear who ran it died (and her sons claimed they knew nothing about it, yeah right!!!!) have no worries about seeing it through and making sure this womans gets what she deserves, she has no excuses, this is not just a case of ignorance it is wilful neglect, you are doing to the right thing in testifying. Bookie > where si the case to be heard? where was the small holding? i know you > cannot give oput the woman's name or anything but knowing when and > where the case will be heard will make it easier to follow it. > Sometimes stuff about animal cruelty does not hit the national press Pity!!! > but only features in local press, unless it is huge like the one about > the 100-odd yorkshire terriers found in disgusting conditions in a > puppy farm in sussex after the old dear who ran it died (and her sons > claimed they knew nothing about it, yeah right!!!!) Tell me?!! The initial hearing is to be held in Hampshire @ a Magistrates court,where the bench has to decide whether the case can be heard by them.If they feel that the case/crime is so serious,I believe what they do is send it on the crown court,which would be far better outcome. >From what I can understand,If the magistrates court do feel it is within their duristriction, they can only impose a mamximum penalty of upto 12months in prison(which as we all know means 1/2 the amount will be served,& if she has a good behaviour record,perhaps even less & she will be kicked out with a tag around her ankle;not really a sence at all is it?..which feels very wrong) & a nice whacking great huge fine.However,should they decide that the charge is so serious,... what they do is send it on the the crown court, to be heard at a later date. This would be far more preferable I understand, because the case will be heard by a judge & jury too.Also the maximum penalty is far worse,& she can be banned from ever owning any more animals ever again(after a lengthy holiday @ her majesty's pleasure in Holloway... hopefully of course!!).I know that this is what the Rspca are hoping for as well as the Cps as well. The excuses are unbelievable & she has already managed to get the 1st hearing postponed once by pretending to be suicidal & unable to attend the last schedualed hearing-but she won't be able to play that one any more than once, because the case will be heard in her absence I am told.As a result of becoming involved in this case,It has also made me far more aware of what the Rspca are up against in their daily work & for what they strive to achieve too.They do some incredible things to try & ensure that people that don't deserve to animals, are stopped;they also face some horrific sights as well.I admire thier stamina~I would just loose it & hang the offender from the nearest tree I could find?!! > have no worries about seeing it through and making sure this womans > gets what she deserves, she has no excuses, this is not just a case of > ignorance it is wilful neglect, you are doing to the right thing in > testifying. I hope so.You wouldn't believe some of the e-mails that I have recieved concerning what she will do to me If I go ahead and testify what I know (which to be honest, is hardly anything at all...only the facts as I have presented them.I bought a cat from a nice spick & span farmhouse, but then discovered that the cat was riddled with ringworm,& flea's that where so bad that she had a pink tinge to her coat!) Initially I was just annoyed.But, the more that I thought about it, I reasoned that if Tiggs had it,there was a large possibilty that the other cats were likey to have it as well-It was pure chance that the other breeder that I met there gave me her card.Otherwise I wouldn't have known her from Adam & none of this would ever have come to light.(I wonderd why after a 2.5hour drive all the way down there,she didn't even offer us a cup of tea,&was most reluctant to even allow us to use her lavatory-now I know why!!!!!) *I will* let you know what happens as soon as the case is heard. It has made me so much more aware of what the Rscpa see,& also have to deal with as well.It is sickening really(I also hope that none of the other people due to testify don't drop out or withdraw their satement's as well- the less people that are willing to come forward,the less chance they have of ensuring that this never happens again.It's easier for me,because I don't live anywhere near this individual.But a lot of the others do,& it might not be quite so easy for their neighbors to testify against them ,nevertheless, they are the most vital ones that need to:( You sound about as tolerant as I am!!!? S. > I hope so.You wouldn't believe some of the e-mails that I have recieved > concerning what she will do to me If I go ahead and testify what I know I hope you have kept all those emails, print them out too, they could be used in a charge of witness intimidation if they are from people connected with the woman being tried. OR (info gleaned from my brother who works for the CPS) you only need 2 instances of such contact, be it emails, letters whatever from the same person and you can have them for harrasment and that is a criminal offence not a civil one so you can take the material that these people have sent you to the fuzz and get them to deal with it (providing that 2 or more of the emails come form the same person, sounds they wil be stupid enough to do this if they are supporting this woman). how on earth can they justify defending what this woman has done? if you feel scared or threatened at all go to the police, take print outs of the emails with you, tell them what is happening, they will take this kind of thing seriously. this greedy bitch need stringing up best fo luck with it all and keeps me posted, Bookie > I hope you have kept all those emails, print them out too, they could > be used in a charge of witness intimidation if they are from people [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the same person, sounds they wil be stupid enough to do this if they > are supporting this woman). Gosh!Really?Thanks ever so for enlightening me.I have 4e-mails in total-2 from the woman herself, & also a couple from someone I have never heard of before receiving them,(but seems to know a great deal for someone who has nothing to do with this(I think me not-they do know her & are involved.They must be,because they refer to this woman going through hell,that I put her through-now that is a bit rich isn't it?!!) No fears though.I have all of the e-mails saved to the Pc,& thought it would be best to back them up by burning them to a disc too.You never know,my Pc could crash, or I might even receive a nasty virus if someone were to be so bloody minded~So I thought I'd be doing myself a favour,& got a copy of them stashed up until such time as I might need to refer to them. > how on earth can they justify defending what this woman has done? if > you feel scared or threatened at all go to the police, take print outs > of the emails with you, tell them what is happening, they will take > this kind of thing seriously I can't say that I do feel threatend,mostly because like yourself,I come into contact with lots of teenagers(I have 5kids)& to be prefectly honest,I find them more intimidating than this pathetic excuse of an imbecile.It tends to make you rather thick skinned,doesn't it? I can't say that I do feel threatened;I'm a bit too thick skinned to feel that way inclined.Nevertheless,I will hang on to them until such time as they are needed, then I will hand them over to the police-possiblly the next time I go into town,or the local bobby pops round to see me.He is a personal friend,so I will have no problems getting them to him.Do you know something?It hadn't even crossed my mind until now that they were threatening really..I just viewed them as rather pathetic!!It is rather hard to feel sorry for someone that has utterly no regard for anything/or one, other than herself. > how on earth can they justify defending what this woman has done? It sounds like the person who sent them has a financial baring on this small holding,& has lost rather a substantial amount of money after the animals were removed from their care.It asks my why I felt that I had to go to a higher body,rather than contacting them for reparation,if I felt"done" by her. Well the simple answer to that one is..If I had, she would have tried to pay me off,& the animals would all still be there suffering in the same way that they were the day I collected her.It was sheer luck that I was able to contact the Bengal breeder though;sheer good luck I should say! I have every intention of getting my money back for the cat anyway, not to mention expences,& vet bills too!! Now, If she had been open & honest with me,& told me that she had 8 cats that she could no longer support,were ill, & that she couldn't afford to take them to the vet,It might have panned out differently-but she *chose* to whack me for ?250 instead & turn a blind eye to her poor condition,pretending to have no knowledge of what I was talking about..insisting that there was nothing wrong with the poor thing when it left her????! If I am a fool for any reason,it was for paying that amount for a cat-as you all say, there are millions out there that deserve a home-but if you look at it from the other side of the coin,it was money well spent in the end,as she needed rescuing just as much as any other cat did.Her long pedigree didn't save her from abuse,did it?(& she doesn't match the carpet either,lol:o)It is blue& she is white and tabby~ In fact she is an utter pest,You can always tell where she has been by the trail of white fur she leaves as she moves from one perch to another...but I wouldn't swap her for all the tea in china. She might be ever so shy, but she was also so starved of attention, that you only have to lay a hand on her & the V8engines turn up on full power & she purr's like a Blissful Garfield. > this greedy bitch need stringing up Rest assured,I will make it my lifes mission to ensure that she is!! > best fo luck with it all and keeps me posted, Bookie Thank you very much indeed for that,& Also to your brother too,for the info on the e-mails.I appreciate that one no end-I would never have thought of that one. I will keep you well informed.It is just a pity that the laws in the U.k are not as stringent as they are in the Usa-She would have been booked(excuse the punn,not intended I assure you),plea bargained & banged up too by now,eh?Suicidal, my back side!? Right,I am now off to go and see how the new lodger is doing this morning-the one that had a collar embedded in her neck-The fat ,swanky~slinky orange chap has already gone out for his morning stroll,& other moggies are all giving me dead eye presently, the bowl is out of pussy cat complete-how dare I not fill it before 9am?Scandelous,the neighbors will get to hear about it if I don't do it right now! S. > I hope you have kept all those emails, print them out too, they could > be used in a charge of witness intimidation if they are from people [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the same person, sounds they wil be stupid enough to do this if they > are supporting this woman). Gosh!Really?Thanks ever so for enlightening me.I have 4e-mails in total-2 from the woman herself, & also a couple from someone I have never heard of before receiving them,(but seems to know a great deal for someone who has nothing to do with this(I think me not-they do know her & are involved. <snip> This is *very* serious if the woman herself has contacted you. Depending on the content of the email, this could be construed as witness intimidation. I think you should contact one of the prosecutors for the case because this could provide more leverage for the case. Do not alter the email in any way -- that is, leave it exactly where it is on your computer and do not move it to a different folder until you hear whether the prosecutor (or representative) wants to examine your computer. I doubt that this case would rise to that level, but the courts often want to see originals and want to verify the actual chain of evidence. Make a print copy to take to the prosecutor. <snip> I will keep you well informed.It is just a pity that the laws in the U.k are not as stringent as they are in the Usa-She would have been booked(excuse the punn,not intended I assure you),plea bargained & banged up too by now,eh?Suicidal, my back side!? I wish I could agreen that laws against animal more abuse are more stringent in the US. Unfortunately, many judges treat animal abuse cases very lightly. The penalties you described are probably more severe than what would be meted out here for similar offences (although there are wide variations because of differing jurisdictions among states and localities). Thank you for doing all this. Most people would vent and complain about the treatment you witnessed and possibly demand financial compensation, but very few actually follow through and work to see that justice is done. -- MaryL Right,I am now off to go and see how the new lodger is doing this morning-the one that had a collar embedded in her neck-The fat ,swanky~slinky orange chap has already gone out for his morning stroll,& other moggies are all giving me dead eye presently, the bowl is out of pussy cat complete-how dare I not fill it before 9am?Scandelous,the neighbors will get to hear about it if I don't do it right now! S. S. > This is *very* serious if the woman herself has contacted you. Depending on > the content of the email, this could be construed as witness intimidation. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > want to verify the actual chain of evidence. Make a print copy to take to > the prosecutor. yes, the woman herself should not be having ANY contact with you whatsoever, it is not helping her case by her doing this, can't believe she is being that stupid (no actually I can). take copies ot the police dealing with the case, take some to the prosecutor as said above (or i suppose whoever fromthe CPS is dealing with this case) they will be very interested in this and the fact she is trying to intimidate you btw CPS stands for Crown Prosecution Service for all our american friends and yes, thanks for doing this, many people would turn their backs and not want the hassle or bother but as I always think "if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem" Bookie > This is *very* serious if the woman herself has contacted you. Depending on > the content of the email, this could be construed as witness intimidation. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > want to verify the actual chain of evidence. Make a print copy to take to > the prosecutor. I won't.It wasn't until Bookie mentioned it that I even thought about it.I did when I got them a couple of months ago,& just copied them to disc.I am so glad that she did point it out to me,otherwise I might have forgoten about it completely!!They are welcome to look@ the Pc.I will be passing on the disc with the record of the e-mails later today.If it stops anyone going through this ever again,even if it is only one single person, then it will all have been worth it for me.... > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > treatment you witnessed and possibly demand financial compensation, but very > few actually follow through and work to see that justice is done. There is no way I am going to allow this she- troll to get away with this.It is about the money(partialy-I would be lieing if I told you it wasn't)...but most of all, it is the sheer blatent bare faced lies that got to me, & the state of Tiggs a few days after we got her home.I remember my first posting on here.It was about her.I was asking if anyone had any idea what it might be, as I had already called the breeder who told me that it was my central heating, then it was eczma...I had taken her to the vets(my usual one was away @ the time),& they told me that it was eczma,but I knew in my gutt that it was something more sinister even then-& it was confirmed by loads of you...& I had to go back tell that young locum to stick a woods lamp on her just to make sure(& to shut me up,lol!!) I agree with you entirely.I think it was a wicked thing to do!I am not allowed to talk to the other breeder(Bengal's), but It might be a good idea for me to mention that If have recieved e-mails from this woman,So the chances are that she will have been e-mailed too?!!It stands to reason that they have probably tried her as well,doesn't it?Maybe she has already told them about hers,otoh,maybe she just ignored it like I did?? I remember thinking "how pathetic does it get"? A bit like the story I told you about the kitten wormer~there is no shame in being honest,as long as you learn from it:o) S. > Right,I am now off to go and see how the new lodger is doing this > morning-the one that had a collar embedded in her neck-The fat [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > right now! > S. The little collar girly is doing just fineShe took her antibiotics in one gulp in the kitty chucks.Unfortunately plenty of hissing & spitting this morning,so she must be feeling a lot better now. The Huge Fat Orange chap,Ringo is lolling off the sofa,laid out like a real life Garfield(his knocking @ the front door,still makes us laugh:o) I have got the big fat Lilly-Guttus-Maximus on my lap,Biffy is giving her calf moon eyes, Tiggs is sitting in the radiator hammock(I got that one for xmas-see, the kids do think of me?!!),& the ragdollys are draped all over Paul...perfik as they would say around here! S. > I agree with you entirely.I think it was a wicked thing to do!I am not > allowed to talk to the other breeder(Bengal's), but It might be a good [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > has already told them about hers,otoh,maybe she just ignored it like I > did?? I'm not an attorney, but I would say that you absolutely *should not* contact the other witness and especially *do not* ask her if she received similar email. That is the job of the police, and they will (or should) follow up once you give them your copies. If you do it yourself, you could damage the case because anything she says could then be seen as "tainted" or "unduly influenced" by your remarks. -- MaryL <snip> > S. > you absolutely *should not* > contact the other witness and especially *do not* ask her if she received > similar email. That is the job of the police, I agree, that is for the police to do, you don't want to mess the case up, leave that to this stupid greedy woman who sold you the cat. Just hand over what you have received already and they should follow it up, what you have received may be enough by itself anyway. B >> you absolutely *should not* >> contact the other witness and especially *do not* ask her if she received [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > hand over what you have received already and they should follow it up, > what you have received may be enough by itself anyway. I realize I am being a pain in the a.s, but sheelagh, could you please quit the all-caps thing you do from time to time? I would like to take you out of my killfile. > I realize I am being a pain in the a.s, but sheelagh, could you please quit > the all-caps thing you do from time to time? I would like to take you out of > my killfile. gee that's original >> I realize I am being a pain in the a.s, but sheelagh, could you please >> quit [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > gee that's original Did I say it was original? Is there some reason you think I was trying to be "original?" It was a simple request. >>> I realize I am being a pain in the a.s, but sheelagh, could you please >>> quit [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > It was a simple request. Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" don't you understand, bigbad? Can you help it when something gets on your nerves? (I can answer that for you if you want.) :) > Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" > don't you understand, bigbad? > > Can you help it when something gets on your nerves? > > (I can answer that for you if you want.) :) you replied to bookie dear maybe sheelagh read it though heee NOBODY TOLD YOU TO EAT THE WHOLE DAMN CARTON OF ICE CREAM >> Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" >> don't you understand, bigbad? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > NOBODY TOLD YOU TO EAT THE WHOLE DAMN CARTON OF ICE CREAM It was a big piece of caramel cake. Should have just slapped it right on my a.s. > It was a big piece of caramel cake. > > Should have just slapped it right on my a.s. don't forget the chocolate sauce, melted butter, and pineapple topping yeah, that would be real pretty >>> Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" >>> don't you understand, bigbad? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Should have just slapped it right on my a.s. This reminds me of something? What was that old game show? Oh yeah I remember it " I buy that for a dollar ". Make one hell of a webcam movie ;-) > > Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" > > don't you understand, bigbad? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you replied to bookie dear > maybe sheelagh read it though I read it! I am just going through the mail nowq, whilst I wait for someone who is coming to see the Moggies. She has never had one before,So I want to see her interact with them before I agree to let her have one...I have high hopes with this lady. S. Ps.I fon't intend to be a pain in the a.s,lol > > Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" > > don't you understand, bigbad? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you replied to bookie dear > maybe sheelagh read it though I read it! I am just going through the mail nowq, whilst I wait for someone who is coming to see the Moggies. She has never had one before,So I want to see her interact with them before I agree to let her have one...I have high hopes with this lady. S. Ps.I don't intend to be a pain in the a.s,lol > > Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" > > don't you understand, bigbad? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you replied to bookie dear > maybe sheelagh read it though I read it! I am just going through the mail nowq, whilst I wait for someone who is coming to see the Moggies. She has never had one before,So I want to see her interact with them before I agree to let her have one...I have high hopes with this lady. S. Ps.I don't intend to be a pain in the a.s,lol > Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" > don't you understand, bigbad? > > Can you help it when something gets on your nerves? I'm with you on the all caps thing.  SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ >> Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" >> don't you understand, bigbad? >> >> Can you help it when something gets on your nerves? > > I'm with you on the all caps thing. Thank yew sisTAH! :) >> Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" >> don't you understand, bigbad? >> >> Can you help it when something gets on your nerves? > > I'm with you on the all caps thing. Same here. Ironically, it is also difficult to read messages that lack at least a modicum of correct capitalization -- for example, messages where "i" is consistently used instead of "I." MaryL on Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:13:01 GMT, "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > Same here. Ironically, it is also difficult to read messages that > lack at least a modicum of correct capitalization -- for example, > messages where "i" is consistently used instead of "I." ditto there! And while we're bitching <G>, long posts with no white space (paragraph breaks) frustrate me to no end as well. SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ > >> Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" > >> don't you understand, bigbad? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > MaryL I agree. Any post without capitalization, or punctuation, take effort to read for content. Unless it's a poster I'm familiar with, I do tend to skip over them entirely. I figure anyone who doesn't bother, or doesn't *know* how to construct a sentence probably isn't saying anyting worth reading. Wrong assumption, probably; but it *is* inconsiderate of the reader, IMO. Sherry > > >> Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" > > >> don't you understand, bigbad? [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Sherry and anyone who can't spell 'anything' should have been strangled at birth eh? jesus ladies, will you lot just unclench your buttocks and let the collective rod fall out? I could spend all day ripping apart the spelling and grammar of other people's postings but I don't because (a) none of us are perfect are we? and (b) some of us are more concerned with reading the actual content of a posting and the important information it is supposed to be conveying to us so I see no point it being so petty. the amount of crap grammar and punctuation I see here would normally be enough to make me weep if i saw it in one of my pupils books, but when i come on here I am off-duty so to speak and so I let the idiosyncracies of other people's typing (or lack of typing in my case) flow over me. There really are more importnat things to worry about aren't there? by the way, small question; how is it 'inconsiderate of the reader' if someone writing a posting does not know how to construct a proper sentence? if you read the above that is exactly what you put, so please explain what you mean. on Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:58:14 GMT, "bookie" <emily_booker@hotmail.com> wrote: > some of us are more concerned > with reading the actual content of a posting and the important > information it is supposed to be conveying to us The point is that some of what is posted is difficult to read for content. HTH! SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ >> > > on Thu, 28 Dec 2006 01:30:33 GMT, "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> >> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > sentence? if you read the above that is exactly what you put, so please > explain what you mean. Bookie, It seems to me that one of the problems is that people who obviously *do* know how to punctuate and capitalize simply don't bother to do so in their messages to Usenet. I say "obviously" because I think I can glean that information from the basic content of many of these messages. We are not trying to be "grammar police." I would often fail the test, if that were the case. However, some of the messages are *incredibly* difficult to read. As a result, I bypass some of them (just as Sherry described). That is unfortunate because I probably miss some messages that either provide information that could help me or that ask questions that I could answer. However, I don't want to spend all my spare time trying to wade through the tangle of almost-indecipherable passages that are sometimes posted. MaryL > Bookie, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > However, I don't want to spend all my spare time trying to wade through > the tangle of almost-indecipherable passages that are sometimes posted. Now doesn't that look better? :) > > > >> Also: what part of "I know I am being a pain in the a.s" > > > >> don't you understand, bigbad? [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > sentence? if you read the above that is exactly what you put, so please > explain what you mean. <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a post that make it difficult to read. I'm not telling you how to post, I really don't care. You may have some very interesting things to say. Why screw it up with your presentation? Particularly since you seem to *know* how to write. You just don't want to. Cripes. It doesn't take that much effort to punch a caps key. Sherry > <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's > the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a post [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > *know* how to write. You just don't want to. Cripes. It doesn't take > that much effort to punch a caps key. Nicely said. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's >> the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a post [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Nicely said. Most of us; as another pointed out, could just care less to waste them time to worry about dotting the i and crossing every t. As long as the point is made ;-) Sorry could not resist. >>> <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's >>> the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a post [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > As long as the point is made ;-) Sorry could not resist. I think you mean you could NOT care less. Sorry, could NOT resist. hahahahahaha!! When I do Pain in the a.s, I do it right. > When I do Pain in the a.s, I do it right. I like a gal who holds to her convictions! SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ >> When I do Pain in the a.s, I do it right. > > I like a gal who holds to her convictions! SISTAH! :D Give Levi a kiss for me. > Give Levi a kiss for me. OK!! He's asleep on my shoulder right now. :) Funny story. My daughter is very sick with mono (okay, that is not the funny part). She called to me in her cute little voice a while ago and when I went in to her room, she was stuck under Rudy, who she was too weak to lift off of her. So I said, "com'ere Mister Fatty!" and picked him up. My daughter then said, "he's not fat, he's big boned!" Made me giggle. SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ >> Give Levi a kiss for me. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to lift off of her. So I said, "com'ere Mister Fatty!" and picked him up. > My daughter then said, "he's not fat, he's big boned!" Made me giggle. The part about the cat being "big boned" really is funny, but I'm sorry to hear about your daughter. She must be *very* ill (unless she is very small) to be too weak to lift a cat. I hope she improves rapidly! MaryL on Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:42:12 GMT, "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > The part about the cat being "big boned" really is funny, but I'm > sorry to hear about your daughter. She must be *very* ill (unless she > is very small) to be too weak to lift a cat. I hope she improves > rapidly! Thank you, Mary. This has been really rough on her, especially during the holiday vacation when she should be playing with her friends. :( SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ > on Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:42:12 GMT, "MaryL" > <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thank you, Mary. This has been really rough on her, especially during the > holiday vacation when she should be playing with her friends. :( Hope she gets better soon. > Hope she gets better soon. Thank you. We spent the afternoon at the doctor. Another blood test and big crocodile tears... She lost 2 lbs in 6 days, and she only weighs 64 lbs at age 11 (almost 12). I'm going nuts! Thanks for the well wishes. She currently has 2 of 3 animals laying with her. Naturally, Levi is on me. :) SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ > >> <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's > >> the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a post [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > As long as the point is made ;-) Sorry could not resist. Oh, come on Matthew. I thought you were old school. What happened to "anything worth doing, is worth doing right?" :-) Sherry >> >> <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's >> >> the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Sherry What is her name and I will show her how it is done old school he hehe > > <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's > > the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a post [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Nicely said. do you know what time of the morning it is over here when most of us plucky brits tend to be conversing with you yanks? usually about 3 or 4am, so my ability to self regulate my typing has long since departed, especially since i am only up and out of bed in order to deal with a small cat who seesm to want to play 'attack the toes' or chase or whatever at that time. christs sake, give us a break > > > <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's > > > the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a post [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > christs sake, give us a break This in point of fact,Is very true indeed.Most of your posting's from the States are extreemly late @ night over here.We like conversing with you,which is why we make the effort. I understand your anoyance at our mistake's, but Is It really that big a deal to you? I can certainly tell you that In my case,It Is never done just to get under your girdle(thong!) I do however,take your point & will try a lot harder in future.I simply didn't realise just how much it got up your nose.I was going to say snout.But then thought about It & realised that you might take offense to the word.Over hear,It is simply a slang word for nose, but you might have taken it in It's litteral form & thought I was trying to be offensive. We have to think quite a bit before posting actually, in case of that very reason.If I mean to cause offense, I can assure you that It would be Incredibally clear....I say this "just in case" I ever do use a word that you might possibly construe as rude. S. > This in point of fact,Is very true indeed.Most of your posting's from > the States are extreemly late @ night over here.We like conversing with > you,which is why we make the effort. You can still chat during your normal time frame. No need to post our hours. I'm in the states, and I usually don't post during "our" hours either since I am a severe night owl. By the time I get home from work, there are lots of posts and emails for me to read. On my cat email list, the first people to respond to me are from England and Asutralia since they happen to be awake when I am sending out my emails. But there are only a few on the list, so it is pretty quiet at that time of day/night. > I do however,take your point & will try a lot harder in future.I simply > didn't realise just how much it got up your nose.I was going to say > snout.But then thought about It & realised that you might take offense > to the word. Don't worry about it. I'm on a Harry Potter group, and the group is probably 40% from the US, 40% for the UK, and about 20% everywhere else. We have a great time learning different vocabulary. Granted, that group is more mixed than many groups. But I think it is a great benefit of the group to learn more about other cultures and vocabulary and not just what we are used to. So, please, use your normal slang. If we don't understand it, we can always ask (and learn). > > This in point of fact,Is very true indeed.Most of your posting's from > > the States are extreemly late @ night over here.We like conversing with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > either since I am a severe night owl. By the time I get home from work, > there are lots of posts and emails for me to read. I know that we can, but I think that a lot of us over here think slightly differently., in as far as we treat posting rather like an instant mail service rather than a posting~I can't speak for everyone, but In my case It is certainly nice to hear a reply to some questions in the same session. > On my cat email list, the first people to respond to me are from > England and Asutralia since they happen to be awake when I am sending > out my emails. But there are only a few on the list, so it is pretty > quiet at that time of day/night. It is nice to walk through the door and get mail of the "non manilla type", doesn't It lol? > > I do however,take your point & will try a lot harder in future.I simply > > didn't realise just how much it got up your nose.I was going to say > > snout.But then thought about It & realised that you might take offense > > to the word. I think we Brit's are slightly more aware that Usa Is now just a country, It is als a continent too, so we are far more aware of time difference I supose?Without actually pinning someone down & asking where they live,(which I think that we consider as quite rude).You have eastern time & western time too, don't you? > Don't worry about it. I'm on a Harry Potter group, and the group is > probably 40% from the US, 40% for the UK, and about 20% everywhere [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > just what we are used to. So, please, use your normal slang. If we > don't understand it, we can always ask (and learn). Your right, I probably do worry far too much, but I think that In my case It is because I am so aware that I haven't been litterate for all that long.I can understand that some people do find It quite hard to make head and tail about what I write though.I wouldn't go as far as saying that people are too intolerarant of the way I write because It wouldn't be true.I also don't mind when people point out spelling or grammatical errors in my postings,It helps me to be more aware of what I am doing wrong.As they say, practise makes perfect.As long as the critisim is constructive, its fine.I find the abreviations the hardest though...... On accents,I have to say that If I did write in our local dialect, you probably wouldnt understand a word of what I was trying to convey,lol!! However I do take your point though.I find other languages interesting too Interesting to hear that you are part of the Harry Potter group too.I have never been in a reading post room before...I think that I might find that quite interesting too.I have never read those books personaly, but my daughter Kt loved them.I read a lot of fantasy titles.I started with the Hobbit, then moved on to lord of the Rings, & once I had finished them,I went on to Robert Jordan,Ian Irvine & George R,Matrin.I trhough that they were brilliiant,lol!! S. > I know that we can, but I think that a lot of us over here think > slightly differently., in as far as we treat posting rather like an > instant mail service rather than a posting~ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd= 1&q=health+and+behavior+sheelagh&spell=1 same link as http://tinyurl.com/ygkosr <snip> > I know that we can, but I think that a lot of us over here think > slightly differently., in as far as we treat posting rather like an > instant mail service rather than a posting~I can't speak for everyone, > but In my case It is certainly nice to hear a reply to some questions > in the same session. I don't think that is practical as long as we have a diverse, international group -- and I think that very diversity is a big benefit on a newsgroup. > I think we Brit's are slightly more aware that Usa Is now just a > country, It is als a continent too, so we are far more aware of time > difference I supose?Without actually pinning someone down & asking > where they live,(which I think that we consider as quite rude).You have > eastern time & western time too, don't you? Actually, the USA is a country and not a continent. That statement forgets about Canada and Mexico. -- MaryL > S. > I think we Brit's are slightly more aware that Usa Is now just a > country, It is als a continent too, so we are far more aware of time > difference I supose?Without actually pinning someone down & asking > where they live,(which I think that we consider as quite rude).You have > eastern time & western time too, don't you? We have several time zones. I am in Pacific Time since I am in Washington State on the West Coast. There is also Mountain, Central, and Eastern. I'm a severe night owl, so I usually go to bed around 5 or 6 am. So, if I do get to chatting with somebody in real time, it is usually a morning person on the east coast, or somebody on the other side of the world :) > > I think we Brit's are slightly more aware that Usa Is now just a > > country, It is als a continent too, so we are far more aware of time [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Washington State on the West Coast. There is also Mountain, Central, > and Eastern. I knew I shouldn't have asked that one ,lol...Now I am utterly confused. Mind you, That doesn't take too much doing these days, as you might have noticed:o) > I'm a severe night owl, so I usually go to bed around 5 or 6 am. So, if > I do get to chatting with somebody in real time, it is usually a > morning person on the east coast, or somebody on the other side of the > world :) Same here.I was going to moan abnout being tiered earlier...then thought the better of it. There was no point as they would have landed on me like a pack of grizzelies and told me that was all my own fault..so I just stiffled the yawns and tried not to moan too much whilst waiting for the Pc..(too much). I am just as bad too... S;o) You are about as bad as I am I am retired so hours make no difference to me. I responded when I can. Like last night I had to go met someone at the airport and I was chatting out here just before that got home did some more chatting now back this morning getting ready to go back to the airport >> This in point of fact,Is very true indeed.Most of your posting's from >> the States are extreemly late @ night over here.We like conversing with [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > just what we are used to. So, please, use your normal slang. If we > don't understand it, we can always ask (and learn). > You are about as bad as I am > I am retired so hours make no difference to me. I love keeping my own hours. >> You are about as bad as I am >> I am retired so hours make no difference to me. > > I love keeping my own hours. HELL YEAH THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT ;-) >>> You are about as bad as I am >>> I am retired so hours make no difference to me. >> >> I love keeping my own hours. > > HELL YEAH THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT ;-) The only thing is? My inlaws, and sometimes my husband, tend to treat me like a housewife. (When in fact my home-based business pays at least half of our bills, including the mortgage.) They drop by, my MIL for a long time expected me to take her shopping all day any day of the week, my husband still arranged for cable guys and contractors to come without even thinking about the fact that I might actually be working. I guess he thinks I pull the money out of my a.s. WHILE cooking for and cleaning after his. BUT I LOVE MY LIFE I GET TO KEEP MY OWN HOURS. lol > >>> You are about as bad as I am > >>> I am retired so hours make no difference to me. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > still arranged for cable guys and contractors to come without even thinking > about the fact that I might actually be working. Now this Is one that I can relate to ~I live in the same village as my mother in law as well as my own mother, both of whom think I have nothing better to do than, taken them shopping, down to the hairdressers, the kids nust cook for themselves,the washing magically appears in the the airing cuppboard, the hoover is on automatic pilot, & the washer loads it's self, then walks out to them line to dry, in between ironing it's self,... our cats can open tins, the litters self dispose & clearing up after & just*happens*.The washing up jumps in the sink & dry's it's self, the cats walk themselve's alongside grooming at the same time, & in between carting the bins our front, they walk back in the garden too(we wont mention the grass that cuts it's self ,then Paul, who Is disabled manges everything he needs doing himself...that Is why we built the downstairs extension~ so It can function on automsatic too.I can remember my mum telling me about this wonderful product just came out on the market, & when I asked what It was, she had the blooming cheek to say, "it's called Elbow Grease,lol" > I guess he thinks I pull the money out of my a.s. WHILE cooking for and > cleaning after his. > > BUT I LOVE MY LIFE I GET TO KEEP MY OWN HOURS. I sure as hell get them though...between 3am & 5am...why am I moaning lol??!!! S;o) > >> You are about as bad as I am > >> I am retired so hours make no difference to me. > > > > I love keeping my own hours. > HELL YEAH THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT ;-) <Green With envy lol> S:o) > You are about as bad as I am > I am retired so hours make no difference to me. I responded when I can. > Like last night I had to go met someone at the airport and I was chatting > out here just before that got home did some more chatting now back this > morning getting ready to go back to the airport 48 hours & still goingfstrong(ish).I wish I was retired sometimes,It sounds so attractive.Mind you, I bet that when I do get there, I will no doubt moan about empty nest syndrome lol. > >> This in point of fact,Is very true indeed.Most of your posting's from > >> the States are extreemly late @ night over here.We like conversing with [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > just what we are used to. So, please, use your normal slang. If we > > don't understand it, we can always ask (and learn). Ask away, I would be only to pleased to help out on that one.It Is so easy to forget yourself & out it comes. I usually notice all of the mistakes, after I press the post button, by which time It is a bit tooooooo late,lol S:o) >> > <shrug> The occasional typo or spelling error doesn't bother me. It's >> > the failure to capitalize, or punctuate, deliberately throughout a post [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > christs sake, give us a break |
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