Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2006
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Lady J USA - 25 Dec 2006 00:19 GMT I found a kitten at our doorstep this morning, it is the sweetest little thing. I took it in, but I am consernced it may be sick. I gave it a bath becuase of his smell, and I noticed he was covered in dried feces. I am concered it may be infectious, I have the kitten isolated, since I have 3 other cats. I belive he is 6 -8 weeks in age. I have checked on him and it appears that it can't poop properly, the feces gets stuck. I do not know what to do since it is christmas eve. I guess I will just keep an eye on the little guy keep him isolated, and try to get him to a vet in a few days.
addicted - 25 Dec 2006 02:06 GMT > I found a kitten at our doorstep this morning I bet kitten is very happy you opened the door
im sure once you start feeding him, yule figure out the feces problem
that's a fine idea to isolate him from the other cats... he's probably got worms from his mother. but you can also do an OTC wormer.. works in hours and boom!
is his belly bloated?
Lady J USA - 25 Dec 2006 16:57 GMT > > I found a kitten at our doorstep this morning > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > is his belly bloated? It appears that there is blood in the stool, and it poops all the time, and eats contstaly so I have cut down on the amount of food, drinks alot too, but I am not sure he is peeing. I am worried that he may have to be put down. The smell is really bad.
addicted - 25 Dec 2006 20:47 GMT > It appears that there is blood in the stool, and it poops all the time, > and eats contstaly so I have cut down on the amount of food, drinks > alot too, but I am not sure he is peeing. I am worried that he may have > to be put down. The smell is really bad. the smell is probably...
you sitting down?
pnumonia, I don't know what they call it for cats.. but fluid on the lungs, infection in the lungs makes an animals breath very bad, if it's infection, you can smell it.
blood in the stool... well.. that could be from lack of water.. crap gets hard and tears the intestinal lining
not peeing... that's not very good at all, but I wouldn't be too alarmed yet AND I would not cut back on the food!
Let him eat as much as he wants...
he may be combating worms, or his intestinal walls may not be absorbing nutrients. HOW CAN HE.. HE JUST CRAPS IT RIGHT OUT
so yeah, let him keep eating, with each "can" of food, he's only getting better.
He may.. in his attempt to live... gotten into some rubbish and ate some bone shards.. he's beat up so bad it's hard to tell what he's like
let him eat though
if he's drinking water.. he'll have to pee eventually.. if there is a blockage... in the urinary tract.. I don't know this LJ, but Im sure you would notice some swelling long about where the bladder is.. maybe look on the web and see where his bladder is... and or if swelling would actually show...
if he doesn't pee by dark.. and you are sure he is drinking water, you should catheterize him. it's simple, but procedure must be sterile. this will unblock him temporarily, and / or assist him in draining his water.
you're gonna have to put him to sleep in order to do that... you'll also need a kitten size catheter
let him eat though, you can't beat that
a healthy appetite is a very good sign
addicted - 25 Dec 2006 20:56 GMT <...>
I wouldn't be too alarmed about blood in the stool
suppose his, "hard poop" tore his lining...
the open bleeding lining is still healing, even though his stool is soft
let him eat and crap all he wants...
more drinks! lol
he probably needed an IV anyway... you know.. put to sleep catheterized, vitamanized, wormed, shot, and kissed
bookie - 25 Dec 2006 02:35 GMT > I found a kitten at our doorstep this morning, it is the sweetest > little thing. I took it in, but I am consernced it may be sick. I gave [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > guess I will just keep an eye on the little guy keep him isolated, and > try to get him to a vet in a few days. make sure he has plenty of water to drink and is kept well hydrated uhntil you get him to a vet
bluemaxx - 25 Dec 2006 04:43 GMT http://www.kittenrescue.org/handbook.htm - a little ways down is "Stimulation and Litter Box Training". A very young kitten needs stimulation in order to eliminate properly, as the mom cat usually licks the kittens in the first 4 weeks. The link tells you how to do it. And the whole page has good info.
: > I found a kitten at our doorstep this morning, it is the sweetest : > little thing. I took it in, but I am consernced it may be sick. I gave [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : > guess I will just keep an eye on the little guy keep him isolated, and : > try to get him to a vet in a few days. addicted - 25 Dec 2006 04:53 GMT > make sure he has plenty of water to drink and is kept well hydrated > uhntil you get him to a vet we sure put alot of confidence in a vet you know.. I could be vet, 60% of the time after that.. sure.. i'd need a liscense, lol
but for the 60% I could make a mint
60% of what folk run to the vet for is dumb stuff like.. a kitten not crapping right.
it's a stray.. no stray craps right because no stray eats right
poor bookie, so careful and troubled about something
cybercat - 25 Dec 2006 05:38 GMT >> make sure he has plenty of water to drink and is kept well hydrated >> uhntil you get him to a vet [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > poor bookie, so careful and troubled about something Will you cut it out. :
Don't discourage people from taking their cats to the vet.
Troll if you will, but first DO NO HARM.
addicted - 25 Dec 2006 05:47 GMT > Don't discourage people from taking their cats to the vet. > > Troll if you will, but first DO NO HARM. vets a neccessary evil
well.. if one is going to force their pet to live beyond it's natural design then yes, to the vet it is.
if one needs some practical common sense then why should they pay a vet for common sense? to feel good about their choices? of course I don't know squat about pet innards etc.. and most people don't.. so I do understand. but the OP says.. the stray scragley kitten won't poopin right, I figure a few good meals should clean the pipes out
there baby, I just saved us $50 bux :)
bookie - 25 Dec 2006 21:03 GMT > > Don't discourage people from taking their cats to the vet. > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > but the OP says.. the stray scragley kitten won't poopin right, I > figure a few good meals should clean the pipes out the fact it has been a stray is a damn good reason to take it to a vet straight away! it may not just be a case of feeding it better food, it may have some sort of illness, parasites living in it's guts, or similar which is causing it's elimination problems, partyicualrly if the faeces are rather liquid and smelly and it has a bloated tummy (sounds like parasites to me) and only a vet can make that proper diagnosis and prescribe the correct medication to get rid of whatever has infested this poor kitten. it may be common sense to say 'it is worms' or something but you still need to see a vet to get the correct drugs for it, certainly in this country there are many drugs which only a vet is legally allowed to prescribe and you cannot get them in a shop (for good reason).
and how is giving a small kitten medical help so it lives longer than a few weeks "forcing their pet to live past it's natural design"? what kind of a stupid aomment is that? if you are talking about natural selection, survival of the fittest, natural wastage etc then you could easily apply that to lots of human babies with terminal illnesses who we spend so more money, time and energy trying to keep alive for a short time but I am sure you would not question that
anyways, did anyone else get given loads of cat care books for christmas, most of which they either already have or they have loads of similar ones or the info in them is just outdated and probably useless? have already instructed one person to take the books back to the shop get the money back and send a cheque of the same amount to me made out to Cats Protection, i figured that Cats need the 30 quid the books cost much more than I need lots of books about cat care i have already read. Nice thought from him and all but still.
i mean, what on earth do I need cat care books written by experts on feline health and behaviour when i have this wonderful resource to tap into ie rec.pets cats.health+behaviour, and of course the highly knowledgeable barry to advise whenever i have any questions?
addicted - 25 Dec 2006 21:09 GMT > and how is giving a small kitten medical help so it lives longer than a > few weeks "forcing their pet to live past it's natural design"? why don't you try reading for once stop taking me out of context
im going to give you a break this time it's christmas
Merry Christmas
bookie - 25 Dec 2006 21:18 GMT > > and how is giving a small kitten medical help so it lives longer than a > > few weeks "forcing their pet to live past it's natural design"? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Merry Christmas it is christmas indeed, and that must be the reason there is shite all on tv tonight and the pubs are shut :-( well at least jessie is happy; she came with me to my aunts house for christmas lunch and enjoyed every minute of exploring her house and garden before having a plateful of turkey and a snooze in front of the queens speech. I have a now got half a ton of cold turkey meat in the fridge for jessie to eat later on, lucky girl.
addicted - 25 Dec 2006 21:24 GMT > it is christmas indeed, and that must be the reason there is shite all > on tv tonight and the pubs are shut :-( [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > queens speech. I have a now got half a ton of cold turkey meat in the > fridge for jessie to eat later on, lucky girl. turkey has something in it that's supposed to make you look younger and live longer.
bookie - 25 Dec 2006 21:38 GMT > > it is christmas indeed, and that must be the reason there is shite all > > on tv tonight and the pubs are shut :-( [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > turkey has something in it that's supposed to make you look younger and > live longer. that must be why, despite being about 16 years old, jessie is still as spritely as a 5 year old (with no teeth of course) i often get her cooked turkey meat slices and chicken slices from the shops as it must get very boring eating tinned whiskas meat every day. i don't eat meat so would not benefit from this turkey-based elixir of youth, but then I have a porttrait of myself in my attic top do my ageing for me. Nah, i don't care about needing to look younger, I am not really bothered about that sort of stuff unlike the rest of the females on this planet it seems. I got noone i want to impress or deceive into thinking i am still in my early twenties (or whatever), quite happy looking old. Anyway i have the other problem; i regularly get asked for ID when i go to pubs and bars which used to be flattering, then was amusing, now is just tedious, so i think turkey is the last thing i need.
cybercat - 26 Dec 2006 00:17 GMT >> it is christmas indeed, and that must be the reason there is shite all >> on tv tonight and the pubs are shut :-( [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > turkey has something in it that's supposed to make you look younger and > live longer. It makes you sleep. Which, done deeply and often enough in conjunction with an active lifestyle, a good diet, and a helluva lot of luck, makes you look younger and live longer.
bookie - 26 Dec 2006 02:23 GMT > It makes you sleep. Which, done deeply and often enough in conjunction > with an active lifestyle, a good diet, and a helluva lot of luck, makes you > look younger and live longer. I think genes have a fair bit to do with it
Lesley - 26 Dec 2006 02:10 GMT I belive he is 6 -8 weeks in age. I have
> checked on him and it appears that it can't poop properly, the feces > gets stuck. Something just occurred to me...You believe he's 6-8 weeks old? Are you sure he's not younger?
Kittens before a certain age (Someone tell me how old) cannot peep and poop normally, they need their butts etc wiped with cotton wool to tell them when they can go (Normally their mum would lick them down there to make them go think of that when a queen with a litter gets up from tending to her kittens and licks you! Now there's a pro-neuteuring argument I hadn't thought of! "So you think it's only natural for your cat to have kittens- well it's also only natural for her to lick their bum and then lick you") It could be without the stimulation he would normally get from mum he isn't able to go until it all builds up...and then has to go
Just an idea...other than that thank you for taking him in
Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
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