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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2006sort of OT: so-called poor people
People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet or buy some feliway (or whatever) really piss me off. LEARN TO BUDGET. I realize there are truly poor people in the world, but if you have a freakin' internet connection and a computer, you are NOT one of them. Put aside money for what matters, including your cats, and stop making excuses.  SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ > People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet if you have a > freakin' internet connection and a computer, you are NOT one of them. I totally agree with you.All you have to do is cut off your cable bill for a month & snip your internt off, then you will have enough for your coonsulting fee(how do I know this....?Because I have done it before!!!!I assure you what you miss,is nothing compared to what you have to loose > Put aside money for what matters, including your cats, and stop making > excuses. We do it for every other reason in the world, why not our Pets?I bet you don't stop buying gifts for xmas,or withold from a day out,so why not take away a couple of treats,& there is the fee you were whinging about. S. on Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:41:38 GMT, "sheelagh" > I totally agree with you.All you have to do is cut off your cable bill > for a month & snip your internt off, then you will have enough for your > coonsulting fee(how do I know this....?Because I have done it > before!!!!I assure you what you miss,is nothing compared to what you > have to loose And I can respect and support nothing less. > We do it for every other reason in the world, why not our Pets?I bet > you don't stop buying gifts for xmas,or withold from a day out,so why > not take away a couple of treats,& there is the fee you were whinging > about. There are SO many ways to save money. Take public transportation, clip coupons for groceries, buy store brands instead of name brands, mow your own grass, cut back on your cell phone plan, color your own hair, etc. and so forth. I don't have cable tv and many other so-called essentials. Can I afford it? Hell yes, but I prefer to put money in the bank for my family, including my pets. I have no sympathy for people who are too selfish to budget for their pets. SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ >I totally agree with you.All you have to do is cut off your cable bill >for a month That is not a practical way to save money with most cable operators because reconnection fees after the month will be more than you saved. -mhd >>I totally agree with you.All you have to do is cut off your cable bill >>for a month > > That is not a practical way to save money with most cable operators > because reconnection fees after the month will be more than you saved. The answer is always MAKE MORE MONEY. And that is nearly always possible, especially in this day when ebay and other online opportunities abound. Even shut-ins can deal on eBay or do clerical-type work via online services networks. When my business booms I buy collectibles at good prices on eBay, knowing they will increase in value or at least not decrease. Then if things slow down I sell a few. The post office delivers Priority Mail flatrate boxes in packages of 20 for FREE, you can print your labels online, place a pickup order, and ship items by leaving them on your porch, by your side door, etc. I am mobile and am in and out all the time, but if I were not, I could still make money. And lots of places want proofreaders and clerical workers. It is all done electronically, including payment. These suggestions are just for those stuck at home, or too lazy to get out. THEN there are the other ways to increase income. Regular old-fashioned JOBS. Even ones we don't want to do. It's about priorities. If you are not willing to do what it takes to get what you need to fulfill your responsibilities to yourself and your dependents then there you are. But please do not WHINE at me about it. And don't tell me "I am working my a.s off" if all you are doing is working at something that experience tells you is not going to provide the income you need. Just because you LIKE the work, or do not have to ANSWER to anyone or punch a time clock. Do or do not, there is no f.cking "try." (Yoda.) > >>I totally agree with you.All you have to do is cut off your cable bill > >>for a month > > > > That is not a practical way to save money with most cable operators > > because reconnection fees after the month will be more than you saved. Point taken loud and clear and understood now too-not having cable I wouldn't know the constraints of it....but now I do,lol!! > The answer is always MAKE MORE MONEY. Very true...avon,internet work,or plain cleaning other peoples homes for them-I see no shame in it & I get paid for it too, which is more than I get when @ home;there I have to do it for free....maybe I should start charging for it,hey?Think hoe rich I would be Rich if that were the case.. S. > People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet > or buy some feliway (or whatever) really piss me off. LEARN TO > BUDGET. I realize there are truly poor people in the world, but if > you have a freakin' internet connection and a computer, not necessarily - people can post from a public library internet computer which are available to anybody with a library card. > you are NOT one of them. > Put aside money for what matters, including your cats, and stop making > excuses. Bobble SignatureHave you hugged your cat today? > not necessarily - people can post from a public library internet > computer which are available to anybody with a library card. that's why I said "if you _have_ a ..." I just see so many people living paycheck to paycheck, bitching about money, yet they smoke, drink, eat at restaurants, buy fancy coffee drinks, rent movies, have cable tv, etc, and then skimp on their pets. <puke> SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ >> not necessarily - people can post from a public library internet >> computer which are available to anybody with a library card. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >money, yet they smoke, drink, eat at restaurants, buy fancy coffee drinks, >rent movies, have cable tv, etc, and then skimp on their pets. <puke> There's more than one way to look at this. Lots of people acquire cats more or less by accident... often because a stray cat shows up in the neighborhood and they take to feeding it. I found my cat splayed out in the middle of the road after getting hit by a car. It was pure coincidence that I ended up with a cat that night. The other option would have been to drive by and leave him there. Let's suppose I was someone who could not easily afford to have an animal vetted. Would it have been more ethical of me to say "I'm not up to this responsibility," and drive away? Charlie on Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:25:13 GMT, Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> wrote: > Let's suppose I was someone who could not easily afford to > have an animal vetted. Would it have been more ethical of me to say > "I'm not up to this responsibility," and drive away? If you were someone who could not afford the responsibility of a cat that you found, I would expect the ethical thing to do would be to try to find the cat's owner, and barring that, try to rehome it with the help of a rescue group. Most rescues are overrun with cats, but will provide financial assistance for vetting the animal while the finder "fosters" the cat. If someone truly can't provide medical care for their cat, can't get financial help from anywhere or find a home for the cat, it's my opinion the cat would be better off euthanized. SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ > If someone truly can't provide medical care for their cat, can't get > financial help from anywhere or find a home for the cat, it's my opinion > the cat would be better off euthanized. Wisconsin recently defeated a ballot measure that would have allowed hunters to kill stray cats on their property (using any legal means available to hunters, but mostly be firearm). These fellows have no interest in vetting, rehoming or rescue. The measure was soundly defeated by a disgusted majority of voters. Given your statement above, do you think it should have passed? > Given your statement above, do you think it should have passed? No, not at all. But a cat who needs medical treatment and who isn't going to get it is not better off suffering and is very different from allowing property owners to randomly kill cats. SignatureLynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ LEARN TO > > BUDGET., This the first rule of indepenance,isn't it? > I realize there are truly poor people in the world, If this is truely the case,you shouldn't take a pet on-It is a bit like arranging to apdopt twins,then anouncing you cant afford to keep & feed them. > Have you hugged your cat today? Of course....that happens before "we" even get out of bed to turn the kettle on-after cuddles, the next thing on the agenda is to follow me through to the kitchen & we have massive leg weaving session(it really is a wonder they don't bump into each other, lol:o) > not necessarily - people can post from a public library internet computer > which are available to anybody with a library card. I think that *this is a very good point* that you make here-I know that most people that see you posting *assume* that you have a Pc.....What you point out is certainly true in England, & I now this to be the case because I have often used the service myself.I have only had a Pc for 6months or so.I bought it off my daughter who is @ University (college in usa?),but before then,I used the pubilc one too.I think that there are many people out there that might not know this one?I only found out myself when I joined a learn about Pc's course. > which are available to anybody with a library card. And all you need to get a library card,is an address,it is as simple as that. > > Put aside money for what matters, including your cats, and stop making > > excuses. Get your hair cut at the training college,that will save you ?20($36),Go shopping on saturday late evening in Uk(then everything that might be reduced for date value, will be reduced)...go to pet shops that offer buy 2get 1free,save ?3($5)a week in your savings account, you will be amazed at how quickly that can grow & you won't really miss it-There are so many ways to save money, & I have to congatulate my mother for that one as she taught me everything I hold values for today. I was brought up in Africa,where you really see what *Poor*Means...so I do know the true meaning of Poor,instead of the pretenders that actually mean I am not prepared to make any sacrifice's to ensure that my dearest friend eats & gets treated today when they truely need it. I think this is the point that Lynne was trying to make? S. > People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet or > buy some feliway (or whatever) really piss me off. LEARN TO BUDGET. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Put aside money for what matters, including your cats, and stop making > excuses. couldn't agree more, xmas is on hold for me because vets bills come first, my family will have to wait for any presents but they understand that i am on a v tight budget particualrly over crimble when supply teaching work dries up completely. to be honest if they didn;t understand and kicked up a fuss and i would giev them short shrift and any 'friend' who didn't accept my priorities would most likely no longer be a friend anymore. does amaze me that some people get animals then don't want to pay for medical help for them > People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet or > buy some feliway (or whatever) really piss me off. LEARN TO BUDGET. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Put aside money for what matters, including your cats, and stop making > excuses. couldn't agree more, xmas is on hold for me because vets bills come first, my family will have to wait for any presents but they understand that i am on a v tight budget particualrly over crimble when supply teaching work dries up completely. to be honest if they didn;t understand and kicked up a fuss and i would giev them short shrift and any 'friend' who didn't accept my priorities would most likely no longer be a friend anymore. does amaze me that some people get animals then don't want to pay for medical help for them Well Christmas gifts are another way of cutting back. In my opinion, Christmas is for children - period. Why do we spend money that we don't have on gifts that people don't want? I stopped buying Christmas gifts a long time ago. Gift giving only came into being in the early 1900's when we first had department stores!! Go figure! > > People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet or > > buy some feliway (or whatever) really piss me off. LEARN TO BUDGET. I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > does amaze me that some people get animals then don't want to pay for > medical help for them > People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet or > buy some feliway (or whatever) really piss me off. LEARN TO BUDGET. I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > Lynne You should sit behind the counter at a vet's or shelter, and count how many people say "I can't afford........." Then look out in the parking lot and note the gas-guzzling new model SUV they drove up in. Some people confuse "I can't afford" with "I don't want to afford" re: pet care. Their pets just aren't a priority. OTOH, I helped deliver Christmas baskets to some needy families Saturday. I saw some pretty wretched conditions. I know some of these people. They're better pet owners than some of the middle-class people that come to the shelter. Sherry > You should sit behind the counter at a vet's or shelter, and count how > many people say "I can't afford........." Then look out in the parking [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that come to the shelter. > Sherry Barry is taking good care of his kittens, despite bad circumstances now. He agreed to taking the time to socialize them, too, to handle them a little and get them used to people. That costs nothing. > Barry is taking good care of his kittens, despite bad circumstances now. > He agreed to taking the time to socialize them, too, to handle them a little > and get them used to people. That costs nothing. This is very good news indeed-we needed some good news! s.:o) > > You should sit behind the counter at a vet's or shelter, and count how > > many people say "I can't afford........." Then look out in the parking [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > He agreed to taking the time to socialize them, too, to handle them a little > and get them used to people. That costs nothing. everyone doesn't have the same priorities circumstances? uh? hell, you got people licking the ground out of hunger these ideals you are talking about, it's going to scare people off (scare people away as far as helping a cat) YOU ACT LIKE A CAT IS A MARRIAGE lmto is it? is it a marriage? or can't everybody be happy that "another" stray has a full belly tonight these are perilous times we live in it's a marriage I know.. I know On Thu 21 Dec 2006 05:51:01p, cheryl_is_freak wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav <news:1166741460.995746.294260@ 48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>: > everyone doesn't have the same priorities Why'd you drag that sock out again, Barry? Merry Christmas. SignatureCheryl > On Thu 21 Dec 2006 05:51:01p, cheryl_is_freak wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav <news:1166741460.995746.294260@ [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Merry Christmas. He's twolling. You may not recall, but he sliced right into me with the same sock. Then said he didn't. There isn't any sense to it, I think I have figured it out. Any more than there is sense to the valve on a pressure cooker. I guess we can either hate him for it, or not. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > "Cheryl" <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com gee how'd you find your way into this topic? kind of scraping the barrel arent' you I need my shoe back please >> > You should sit behind the counter at a vet's or shelter, and count how >> > many people say "I can't afford........." Then look out in the parking [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > it's a marriage I know.. I know The way you love Jupiter. Do you really think she is the only cat worthy of that love and care? I know they all are. And I know people can find a way to keep them safe and healthy. Remember, I have not had anything more times than I have. My cat Snidely (aka Gnarly) was eating Science Diet when I had no sauce for my blinkin spaghetti. Why? Because I loved her, and she depended upon me. My clue that I needed to make more money was when I HAD NO BLINKING SAUCE FOR MY STINKING PASTA! So I went out and did what I had to do to make more money. And that was when I was in school full time and working in the bar 30 hours in the evenings, so there wasn't a whole lot more that I COULD do. I walked 35 miles in the snow in my bare feet just to ... hahahaha! No I didn't. You thought I was going to go there, didn't you? SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > You should sit behind the counter at a vet's or shelter, and count how > > many people say "I can't afford........." Then look out in the parking [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > He agreed to taking the time to socialize them, too, to handle them a little > and get them used to people. That costs nothing. I'm glad to hear that. And I'm sure it's due in no small part to you. Not speaking specifically about Barry though, lots of people feed their cats enough, provide shelter, fresh water, attention, etc. etc. It's when potentially expensive vet care comes in that all of a sudden they "can't afford it." And some people *really* can't afford. But MOST who say that, IMO, don't *want* to afford it. They don't want to sacrifice or create debt to care for their cats. I can't recall any cat stories ATM, but several dog owners who brought Fluffy to the shelter because she needed surgery. We just homed a Llaso Apso after we spent $800 on a kidney surgery that it would have died without. Dog had blood in its pee, got taken to a vet and diagnosed. Then The owner just dumped her on us. Beautiful, sweet, sweet dog. Sherry <sriddles@aol.com> wrote > lots of people feed their > cats enough, provide shelter, fresh water, attention, etc. etc. It's > when potentially expensive vet care comes in that all of a sudden they > "can't afford it." And some people *really* can't afford. But MOST who > say that, IMO, don't *want* to afford it. They don't want to sacrifice > or create debt to care for their cats. Agreed. It is really sickening. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet or > buy some feliway (or whatever) really piss me off. LEARN TO BUDGET. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Put aside money for what matters, including your cats, and stop making > excuses. why let it piss you off just step around it >> People who post here about being too poor to take their cat to the vet or >> buy some feliway (or whatever) really piss me off. LEARN TO BUDGET. I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > why let it piss you off > just step around it Because it is worth getting pissed off about. There are "battles worthy of our weapons." To not speak out against neglect amounts to participating in it. And I mean it. God Damn it. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > To not speak out against neglect amounts to participating in it. > > And I mean it. > > God Damn it. DON'T YOU CUSS AT ME THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU > > To not speak out against neglect amounts to participating in it. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > DON'T YOU CUSS AT ME > THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU she is right, another way of saying it could be "if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem" and so just ignoring the problem and not discussing it or addressing the issues and trying to educate people then makes you part of the problem to me. there is far too much 'sticking your head in the sand' in order to ignore problems going on in this world and it is wrong B >> To not speak out against neglect amounts to participating in it. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > DON'T YOU CUSS AT ME > THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU Egotist. Who said I was talking to you. Hey BAWWWWY, Copernicus called and left you a message. He says to tell you you're not the center of the Universe. YOU WANNA YELL? FINE THEN. FIRST, YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU. TAKE YOUR TIME. THEN I WILL GO.
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