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Can human antibiotics be used for cats?

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bluemaxx - 14 Dec 2006 23:13 GMT
I was wondering if human antibiotics can be cut down to equal, say, Clavamox
125 mg.  I have been feeding a feral cat for 4 years now, and he's finally
moved onto my deck, thanks to a wonderful shelter my BIL built for him this
year.  But he gets respiratory infections at least once during the winters.

The human antibiotic I have is "400mg EES Filmtab by Abbott".  I figured if
I could cut it into quarters to dose him with.  Or would that be dangerous?
Thanks for any help.
Linda
-L. - 14 Dec 2006 23:47 GMT
> I was wondering if human antibiotics can be cut down to equal, say, Clavamox
> 125 mg.  I have been feeding a feral cat for 4 years now, and he's finally
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks for any help.
> Linda

Never do this.  The antibiotic may not be effective for the disease the
cat has - they all have different modes of action, different activity
spectrums, different formulations and different toxicities.   I would
never dose a cat with a human antibiotic - or any other drug -  unless
I was 100% sure the drug was exactly the same as what was prescribed by
a vet.

-L.
bluemaxx - 15 Dec 2006 02:44 GMT
Thanks for your rational response, L.   It's exactly what I needed to know.
I appreciate it.

It just makes me sick with worrying to see if he's going to recover each
time he (Mr. Skittles, aka Feral) has an URI.
Linda

: Never do this.  The antibiotic may not be effective for the disease the
: cat has - they all have different modes of action, different activity
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:
: -L.
T - 15 Dec 2006 21:54 GMT
> > I was wondering if human antibiotics can be cut down to equal, say, Clavamox
> > 125 mg.  I have been feeding a feral cat for 4 years now, and he's finally
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> -L.

While what you say is true, many of the pharmaceuticals used for animals
are the same as the human versions. For example, Emily was on
prednisolone before she died. I was on the same thing, different dosage
for an ear problem.
-L. - 16 Dec 2006 01:11 GMT
> While what you say is true, many of the pharmaceuticals used for animals
> are the same as the human versions. For example, Emily was on
> prednisolone before she died. I was on the same thing, different dosage
> for an ear problem.

Correct - and that is why I said this: " I would
never dose a cat with a human antibiotic - or any other drug -  unless
I was 100% sure the drug was exactly the same as what was prescribed by
a vet. "

-L.
Matthew - 15 Dec 2006 02:26 GMT
YES DANGEROUS   VERY DANGEROUS

NEVER EVER GIVE HUMAN MEDICATION TO ANY ANIMAL UNLESS DIRECTED SO BY A
VETERINARIAN

>I was wondering if human antibiotics can be cut down to equal, say,
>Clavamox
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks for any help.
> Linda
AZ Nomad - 15 Dec 2006 02:29 GMT
>I was wondering if human antibiotics can be cut down to equal, say, Clavamox
>125 mg.  I have been feeding a feral cat for 4 years now, and he's finally
>moved onto my deck, thanks to a wonderful shelter my BIL built for him this
>year.  But he gets respiratory infections at least once during the winters.

>The human antibiotic I have is "400mg EES Filmtab by Abbott".  I figured if
>I could cut it into quarters to dose him with.  Or would that be dangerous?

Please do me a favor:  don't ever ask such a question on usenet again.  
Read some bad advice, take it, and you're kitty could end up dead.
Can't you afford a vet?
bluemaxx - 15 Dec 2006 02:44 GMT
What part of "feral cat" did you not understand?

: Please do me a favor:  don't ever ask such a question on usenet again.
: Read some bad advice, take it, and you're kitty could end up dead.
: Can't you afford a vet?
AZ Nomad - 15 Dec 2006 02:55 GMT
>What part of "feral cat" did you not understand?

So it's OK to be incredibly reckless with ferals?  Got tired of putting out
antifreeze and chocolate for them?
bluemaxx - 15 Dec 2006 03:01 GMT
If I was "incredibly reckless with ferals", I would have gone ahead and
given the human antibiotic to the cat... instead of posting in here, asking
for information... and then having dickwads like you ASSume things and flame
me for asking.  HAND

: >What part of "feral cat" did you not understand?
:
: So it's OK to be incredibly reckless with ferals?  Got tired of putting out
: antifreeze and chocolate for them?
Lynne - 15 Dec 2006 02:57 GMT
on Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:44:26 GMT, "bluemaxx" <mylinhlady@netscape.net>
wrote:

> What part of "feral cat" did you not understand?
>
>: Please do me a favor:  don't ever ask such a question on usenet again.
>: Read some bad advice, take it, and you're kitty could end up dead.
>: Can't you afford a vet?

Talk to your vet about this cat.  He may be sympathetic and prescribe
antibiotics.  The trouble is, though, that you need to administer the full
course, and I can't imagine how you will accomplish that without trapping
the cat and keeping him confined in order to do so.

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Lynne

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bluemaxx - 15 Dec 2006 03:06 GMT
I've already asked the vet for a prescription and he denied it, even though
I've brought him stray cats for medical treatment in the past.   I won't go
into my whole history of feeding stray and feral cats in here, but the vet
does know of my efforts.

And I have, in the past, simply crushed the pills and administered them in
tuna juice or mixed them into their food.  Thanks again, Lynne.
Linda

: Talk to your vet about this cat.  He may be sympathetic and prescribe
: antibiotics.  The trouble is, though, that you need to administer the full
: course, and I can't imagine how you will accomplish that without trapping
: the cat and keeping him confined in order to do so.
Lynne - 15 Dec 2006 03:10 GMT
on Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:06:34 GMT, "bluemaxx" <mylinhlady@netscape.net>
wrote:

> I've already asked the vet for a prescription and he denied it, even
> though I've brought him stray cats for medical treatment in the past.
>  I won't go into my whole history of feeding stray and feral cats in
> here, but the vet does know of my efforts.

what an unsympathetic bastard (the vet).  Perhaps you can contact a local
cat group (rescue, shelter?) and explain the situation.  They may work with
a vet who will prescribe an antibiotic.

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bluemaxx - 15 Dec 2006 03:31 GMT
That's a good idea, Lynne.    Thanks again.   :)
Linda

: what an unsympathetic bastard (the vet).  Perhaps you can contact a local
: cat group (rescue, shelter?) and explain the situation.  They may work with
: a vet who will prescribe an antibiotic.
your pappa - 16 Dec 2006 15:31 GMT
> The human antibiotic I have is "400mg EES Filmtab by Abbott".  I figured if
> I could cut it into quarters to dose him with.  Or would that be dangerous?
> Thanks for any help.
> Linda

most meds don't line up, most topical solutions are fine.. like an
ointment or stringent
-L. - 17 Dec 2006 11:01 GMT
> > The human antibiotic I have is "400mg EES Filmtab by Abbott".  I figured if
> > I could cut it into quarters to dose him with.  Or would that be dangerous?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> most meds don't line up, most topical solutions are fine.. like an
> ointment or stringent

No, actually they are not.  Ointments, especially, can cause abscesses
because the antibiotics in them don't work on many of the bacteria
which cats carry.  So in essence, all the ointment does is seals the
wound and causes it to abscess.  The only topical solution made for
humans that  I would ever recommned using on a cat is hydrogen
peroxide, and I would use that only once on a fresh wound to help clean
it.  It kills living tissue, so you never want to use it on a wound
that is healing ( in cats or humans).

Stick to gambling and tokin', Barry.  You are no friend to cats.

-L.
santa claus - 17 Dec 2006 21:37 GMT
> No, actually they are not.  Ointments, especially, can cause abscesses
> because the antibiotics in them don't work on many of the bacteria
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>
> -L.

this would be where I am leaving you standing there.
 
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