Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2006
Public Apology Retracted
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cybercat - 09 Dec 2006 16:55 GMT Barry is indeed a knuckle-dragging, cat abusing piece of sh.t.
Hard as nails behind his "steppinfetchit" shuck-and-jive song and dance that he thinks is so cute.
It works for a while, too. On a few of us.
But eventually, he shows his ugly face.
They alllll do.
I think I am finished getting excited over Barry's kittens now.
*shaking my head*
sheelagh - 09 Dec 2006 17:17 GMT hear hear!
> Barry is indeed a knuckle-dragging, cat abusing piece of sh.t. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > *shaking my head* 2fingah - 09 Dec 2006 21:47 GMT > hear hear! and who are you?
another wanna be socialite? poor thing
to poor to paint to proud to whitewash you and cyber both.. oooo this is rich!
you and cyber should get together and split a bottle of flapple that's... "flat ripple"
sheelagh - 10 Dec 2006 16:41 GMT > > hear hear! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you and cyber should get together and split a bottle of flapple > that's... "flat ripple I am no body speacial, & I am poor too by the way.My remark was made based on the posts that I read,& the generosity of spirit shown by cybercat;In fact everyone who wished you compassion &best wishes would feel the same(I assume?)To be so cruel & rude to anyone who showed you such kindness was unessacery &hurfull.I found the things that you said distastful soley bassed on what you wrote yourself. We all say things that are wrong @ times & I would be the first to admitt that I have said things out of order myself. Cybercats concern was for your cats & your kittens, whom she cares passionately about... I simply don't understand why you found it nessacrey to make any of us feel bad about wanting to help you and your cats & kittens out?Everyones concern is bassed soley on your cats & kittens & their welfare. I wish you all the best & hope that you can find it in your heart to retract those comments-lets face it, you only said it to inflame the group & to get some attention(it must be?).I also hope that when it comes to homing them, that you will do everything that you can to ensure that all of your cats &kittens are de-sexed & inocculated before giving them away to homes that will care for them with the love them as well.Good Luck!
Dusty - 10 Dec 2006 17:28 GMT > I simply don't understand why you found it nessacrey to make any of us > feel bad about wanting to help you and your cats & kittens And why he felt it necessary to bring his race into it and use the N word.
CatNipped - 11 Dec 2006 17:37 GMT >> I simply don't understand why you found it nessacrey to make any of us >> feel bad about wanting to help you and your cats & kittens > > And why he felt it necessary to bring his race into it and use the N word. Based on a picture I saw of him a good while back - on his own web site - Barry isn't African American. I don't like it when *ANYBODY* uses that word (although the rationale is that when used by blacks it takes the sting out of the word... I don't believe that - I think that just leads to wannabe "gangstas" like Barry thinking it makes them kewl to use it and it most definitely is *NOT*).
Barry doesn't have to use the N word in order to be offensive - his attitude about his cats is offensive enough for me.
Hugs,
CatNipped
-L. - 11 Dec 2006 21:40 GMT > >> I simply don't understand why you found it nessacrey to make any of us > >> feel bad about wanting to help you and your cats & kittens [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Based on a picture I saw of him a good while back - on his own web site - > Barry isn't African American. He may be. Multiethnic people don't always "look" a certain way - it's not like mixing paint. ;) I have chided him in the past and he's never denied it.
I don't like it when *ANYBODY* uses that word
> (although the rationale is that when used by blacks it takes the sting out > of the word... I don't believe that - I think that just leads to wannabe > "gangstas" like Barry thinking it makes them kewl to use it and it most > definitely is *NOT*). It's offensive to everyone. It makes people think it's ok to be racist and use racist slurs.
> Barry doesn't have to use the N word in order to be offensive - his attitude > about his cats is offensive enough for me. LOL...no kidding.
-L.
CatNipped - 11 Dec 2006 22:35 GMT >> >> I simply don't understand why you found it nessacrey to make any of us >> >> feel bad about wanting to help you and your cats & kittens [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > not like mixing paint. ;) I have chided him in the past and he's never > denied it. True, I made an assumption and could well be mistaken. Being from New Orleans, I should know better than to make an assumption of race based on skin color - we have an ethnically rich culture there and everybody has a bit of everything thrown into the mix.
> I don't like it when *ANYBODY* uses that word >> (although the rationale is that when used by blacks it takes the sting [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It's offensive to everyone. It makes people think it's ok to be racist > and use racist slurs. Yeah, in a perfect world nobody would know what the word meant and would be appalled at even the concept of a racial slur.
Hugs,
CatNipped
>> Barry doesn't have to use the N word in order to be offensive - his >> attitude [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -L. MaryL - 11 Dec 2006 23:08 GMT >> It's offensive to everyone. It makes people think it's ok to be racist >> and use racist slurs. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > CatNipped My parents would never let anyone around them use that word, and that was in an era when it was common to hear some people use it. Now, my mother is in a nursing home and her roommate is African American. They are best friends and truly love each other in the best sense of the word -- caring, supporting, etc. My mother is basically bedridden, and Doris sees to it that she gets help when she needs it. Doris has no family of her own, and we have become her family. I truly believe that Mother is not even aware that they are of different races. The two of them have achieved the ideal of "color blindness."
MaryL
Nomen Nescio - 12 Dec 2006 03:00 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>It's offensive to everyone. It makes people think it's ok to be racist >and use racist slurs. Are there any niggers in the audience, tonight?
2fingah - 12 Dec 2006 05:25 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >It's offensive to everyone. It makes people think it's ok to be racist > >and use racist slurs. > > Are there any niggers in the audience, tonight? KRAMER! IS THAT YOU?
Nomen Nescio - 12 Dec 2006 20:10 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: "2fingah" <bigbadbarry@gmail.com>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >KRAMER! IS THAT YOU? Actually, Barry, It's the first sentence of a rant by Lenny Bruce about the stupidity, and the dangers, of people who are offended by words.
The rant was toned down, shortened, and "hollywoodized" in the movie "Lenny"
" Are there any niggers here tonight? Could you turn on the house lights, please, and could the waiters and waitresses just stop serving, just for a second? And turn off this spot. Now what did he say? "Are there any niggers here tonight?" I know there's one nigger, because I see him back there working. Let's see, there's two niggers. And between those two niggers sits a kike. And there's another kike that's two kikes and three niggers. And there's a spic. Right? Hmm? There's another spic. Ooh, there's a wop; there's a polack; and, oh, a couple of greaseballs. And there's three lace-curtain Irish micks. And there's one, hip, thick, hunky, funky, boogie. Boogie boogie. Mm-hmm. I got three kikes here, do I hear five kikes? I got five kikes, do I hear six spics, I got six spics, do I hear seven niggers? I got seven niggers. Sold American. I pass with seven niggers, six spics, five micks, four kikes, three guineas, and one wop. Well, I was just trying to make a point, and that is that it's the suppression of the word that gives it the power, the violence, the viciousness. Dig: if President Kennedy would just go on television, and say, "I would like to introduce you to all the niggers in my cabinet," and if he'd just say "nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger" to every nigger he saw, "boogie boogie boogie boogie boogie," "nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger" 'til nigger didn't mean anything anymore, then you could never make some six-year-old black kid cry because somebody called him a nigger at school."
- From screenplay"Lenny"
CatNipped - 12 Dec 2006 20:38 GMT > Actually, Barry, It's the first sentence of a rant by Lenny Bruce about > the stupidity, and the dangers, of people who are offended by words. > > The rant was toned down, shortened, and "hollywoodized" in the movie > "Lenny" <snip Lenny Bruce screenplay quote>
Nice sentiment, but it just doesn't work that way. It isn't the word itself - those two syllables can be repeated until they are nonsense sounds. It's the intent behind some people's vocalization of the word. The hatred, prejudice, and/or fear could be spoken as any two syllables and still have the power to hurt. My objection to hearing *anyone* say that word is that it gives credence to others who want to be "hip, kewl, with it, whatever" to keep in usage a word that symbolizes everything that is nasty and dispicable in the underbelly of our human psyche.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Eva Quesnell - 12 Dec 2006 22:22 GMT >> Actually, Barry, It's the first sentence of a rant by Lenny Bruce about >> the stupidity, and the dangers, of people who are offended by words. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > CatNipped Yes, I agree. The word has a history of hatred behind it. Can't remember where the quote comes from -- but "Words are like weapons." I think we should all be offended by words that symbolize hatred and ignorance.
Eva
Lynne - 12 Dec 2006 23:23 GMT > Yes, I agree. The word has a history of hatred behind it. Can't > remember where the quote comes from -- but "Words are like weapons." > I think we should all be offended by words that symbolize hatred and > ignorance. I respectfully disagree. Words only have the power we allow them to have.
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Eva Quesnell - 13 Dec 2006 00:01 GMT >> Yes, I agree. The word has a history of hatred behind it. Can't >> remember where the quote comes from -- but "Words are like weapons." >> I think we should all be offended by words that symbolize hatred and >> ignorance. > > I respectfully disagree. Words only have the power we allow them to have. And I must also respectfully disagree. "The pen is mightier than the sword." Words are powerful.
Eva
Lynne - 13 Dec 2006 00:08 GMT > And I must also respectfully disagree. "The pen is mightier than the > sword." Words are powerful. ...only if you allow them to be. But then we can go back and forth ad nauseum.
Good book: http://tinyurl.com/ybh46h
Shows the meager origins of the word Nigger and how it has evolved to be what it is today (which is differnt than what it will be tomorrow). Words and their meanings evolve over time and, again, I believe only have the power you choose to let them have. I know you disagree. And that's okay, but if you are interested in expanding your experience, check out the book.
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Eva Quesnell - 13 Dec 2006 16:19 GMT >> And I must also respectfully disagree. "The pen is mightier than the >> sword." Words are powerful. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > power you choose to let them have. I know you disagree. And that's okay, > but if you are interested in expanding your experience, check out the book. I am bookmarking the above site. I took a quick peek, but I want to give it a fair shot -- and I just don't have time right now. I have to run in a few minutes to the dentist. Talk about a word that strikes fear!
Anyway, I can't really respond till I take the time to look at what this book says. I do have an open mind and will peruse it later.
Eva
Eva Quesnell - 13 Dec 2006 20:58 GMT >>> And I must also respectfully disagree. "The pen is mightier than the >>> sword." Words are powerful. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> power you choose to let them have. I know you disagree. And that's okay, >> but if you are interested in expanding your experience, check out the book. Well, there's not a lot I can glean from the small excerpts available. I'd have to read the whole thing. I do realize that words evolve, die out, are created in our very much alive and changing language. I also believe, however, that this is a hurtful word and does have a history of denigration and suppression. I just don't like it. I've seen it hurt friends of mine. I believe I know the origin of the word. It is taken from the word "niggard," a stingy person, miser (in my dictionary). So it doesn't actually mean "black person," but the misuse of the word lead to it being a hateful word meant to put black people in "their place." So I see no merit to the word, and it just will never come out of my mouth.
Eva
> I am bookmarking the above site. I took a quick peek, but I want to give it > a fair shot -- and I just don't have time right now. I have to run in a few [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Eva cybercat - 13 Dec 2006 21:24 GMT > friends of mine. I believe I know the origin of the word. It is taken > from the word "niggard," a stingy person, miser (in my dictionary). So it > doesn't actually mean "black person," but the misuse of the word lead to > it being a hateful word meant to put black people in "their place." So I > see no merit to the word, and it just will never come out of my mouth. It was taken from the Spanish "Negro" meaning black.
Luna's Mom - 16 Dec 2006 20:43 GMT >>friends of mine. I believe I know the origin of the word. It is taken >>from the word "niggard," a stingy person, miser (in my dictionary). So it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It was taken from the Spanish "Negro" meaning black. Interestingly, at my old school, where about 50% of the population is black, kids would wig out when I taught them the word "negro" as the color black. (I teach Spanish) They would get bent out of shape and insist that it was derrogatory!
I had to explain to them that the word "negro" came wayyyy before the other.
Pam
2fingah - 14 Dec 2006 03:18 GMT > And I must also respectfully disagree. "The pen is mightier than the > sword." Words are powerful. > > Eva so lend us some words, we'll lend our ears do you have any warts? and where
Nomen Nescio - 14 Dec 2006 15:50 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: Eva Quesnell <equesnel@unm.edu>
> "The pen is mightier than the >sword." Maybe. But if someone attacks me with a pen, I'd rather be holding a sword.
Lynne - 14 Dec 2006 16:06 GMT > From: Eva Quesnell <equesnel@unm.edu> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Maybe. But if someone attacks me with a pen, I'd rather be holding a > sword. Hehe.
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cybercat - 14 Dec 2006 17:57 GMT >> From: Eva Quesnell <equesnel@unm.edu> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Hehe. You might want to do a Google search on this group, keywords "female CEO." The pertinent discussion was about a year ago, I think.
When our good bud Nomen does not have a sword in his hand, he usually has his little tiny dick in his hand. While making lots of big noise, like others of his kind here. lol
Nomen Nescio - 14 Dec 2006 21:40 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com>
>You might want to do a Google search on this group, keywords "female CEO." >The pertinent discussion was about a year ago, I think. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >others of his >kind here. lol "The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." - -Winston Churchill
BTW, Nancy. You're Ignorance.......Leave the tiny dick comments to "-L."....She's Malice. I hate it when you two bitches mix up your lines. You'd think after years of doing the same act over and over, you two would have finally gotten the dialog right.
And may I suggest that Lynne starts her Google search with
<7b449bd9310c09b34cddaa07aa04acc4@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
Eva Quesnell - 14 Dec 2006 19:05 GMT > From: Eva Quesnell <equesnel@unm.edu> > >> "The pen is mightier than the >> sword." > > Maybe. But if someone attacks me with a pen, I'd rather be holding a sword. I think perhaps you missed the point.
Eva
Nomen Nescio - 14 Dec 2006 21:50 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: Eva Quesnell <equesnel@unm.edu>
>> Maybe. But if someone attacks me with a pen, I'd rather be holding a sword. > >I think perhaps you missed the point. > >Eva If someone attacks me with a pen, I WANT to miss the point.
bearclaw@cruller.invalid - 13 Dec 2006 04:00 GMT > Words only have the power we allow them to have. Heh. Sticks and stones, huh?
That's entirely suitable for bumper stickers and basic moral lessons for kids. But it is much less effective in real communication.
Words do not exist in a vacuum. Context is important, maybe crucial. Words are among the major tools available to people to set the tone of the context.
CatNipped - 13 Dec 2006 19:33 GMT >> Words only have the power we allow them to have. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Words are among the major tools available to people to set the tone of > the context. Exactly - you could call somebody a "Bolegrat" and if you have enough hate, anger, and fear in your tone of voice and body language it will be just as repulsive as using the "N" word.
The problem is that, after a long enough usage to hurt, the word itself will retain some of the hate, anger, and fear that has always been associated with it so that even if you said it with a smile on your face and a light tone of voice, it can hurt.
The whole point is, why propagate something that represents the ugliest part of our past (and, unfortunately our present as well)? Why not let it die and try and to forget the hatred if not the lessons learned from such a terrible part of our history.
Hugs,
CatNipped
The Ranger - 13 Dec 2006 20:45 GMT > Why not let it die and try and to forget the hatred > if not the lessons learned from such a terrible part > of our history. Because as George Santayana once coined, "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
The Ranger
CatNipped - 13 Dec 2006 21:55 GMT >> Why not let it die and try and to forget the hatred >> if not the lessons learned from such a terrible part [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The Ranger I thought that was what I was saying when I wrote "...if not the lessons learned..." I still think it would be nice to be able to forget there ever was such a thing as hatred - knowing that it existed as an out-dated evil but having no idea what it feels like.
Hugs
CatNipped
2fingah - 14 Dec 2006 03:07 GMT > Exactly - you could call somebody a "Bolegrat" and if you have enough hate, > anger, and fear in your tone of voice and body language it will be just as > repulsive as using the "N" word. the spankings will start in a moment
just chillin, been a crazy 2 days Lori <darting my eyes>
I got busted staring at this woman today im glad I got caught, i wanted her to know i can't find these dang buttholes, kittens.. matt said the rectal temp was around 97.6 just playing I should get me a glass thermometer, the shakedown glass one
I AIN'T SAY'N SHE'S A GOLD DIGGER BUT SHE AIN'T MESSIN WID NO BROKE NIGGA
Matthew - 14 Dec 2006 03:46 GMT Hey don't get me involved with anything that has to do with the butt ;-)
>> Exactly - you could call somebody a "Bolegrat" and if you have enough >> hate, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I AIN'T SAY'N SHE'S A GOLD DIGGER BUT SHE AIN'T MESSIN WID NO BROKE > NIGGA 2fingah - 14 Dec 2006 03:50 GMT > Hey don't get me involved with anything that has to do with the butt ;-) oh hell no
CatNipped - 13 Dec 2006 16:48 GMT >>> Actually, Barry, It's the first sentence of a rant by Lenny Bruce about >>> the stupidity, and the dangers, of people who are offended by words. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > where the quote comes from -- but "Words are like weapons." I think we > should all be offended by words that symbolize hatred and ignorance. Cher! ;> "Words are like weapons, they wound sometimes" - from "If I Could Turn Back Time".
> Eva 2fingah - 13 Dec 2006 00:16 GMT <snip>
im hitting the eject button sleazily sliding the dvd into my right front pocket
a huge cigarette is penned behind my ear
--
That was Nomen folks, king of the trolls
he has no shame in his game he is the invisible man you can never trace him he's got his stuff together...
but would he be so bold if he posted under his real name (jerry)
<snip my own monologging>
that's all
Nomen Nescio - 14 Dec 2006 13:50 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
From: "2fingah" <bigbadbarry@gmail.com>
>That was Nomen folks, king of the trolls Well, now I know who was posting that sh.t about me back in June.
>he has no shame in his game Games are to be played to win. No apologies.
>he is the invisible man >you can never trace him I prefer "The Stealth Man"
>he's got his stuff together... Bet your a.s I do!
>but would he be so bold if he posted under his real name (jerry) Jerry? Guess again. If I posted under my real name, you'd never believe it.
>that's all that's enough
doyouhearwhatihear - 15 Dec 2006 01:01 GMT > I prefer "The Stealth Man" the nano man, he sells nano machines these machines eat up oil spills just set them to it
i have seen the future
teleportation will revolutionize the way we interact
beep beep zip bang
on beams of light! Im smiling from ear to ear
can't wait
<a single spot light shines so clean, it looks like the very beam that will snatch me away>
you're gonna need the wizard of oz to compute human teleportation can't we just super-size a chip?...sir! I expanded on your ideas, and I think you're gonna like it... muuu haha
cloned animals, cloned loved ones you know somebody has already tried to clone their husband or wife get some pam anderson dna, some shakkira
siiiick jesse, sick
barely perished - 15 Dec 2006 06:12 GMT > > I prefer "The Stealth Man" > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > siiiick jesse, sick Does this psychobabble impress the chicks, Barry? Apparently not anymore, from the looks of it. Stupid f.ck.
doyouhearwhatihear - 15 Dec 2006 12:29 GMT > Does this psychobabble impress the chicks, Barry? Apparently not > anymore, from the looks of it. > Stupid f.ck. I was talking to Nomen goddammit
Nomen Nescio - 16 Dec 2006 04:50 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Does this psychobabble impress the chicks, Barry? Apparently not >> anymore, from the looks of it. >> Stupid f.ck. > >I was talking to Nomen goddammit Well, I can't make sense out of a word of it, either.
your pappa - 16 Dec 2006 09:01 GMT > Well, I can't make sense out of a word of it, either. well don't be afraid to ask a question phsyco babble is on the house
light me or i'll stomp you! that's phsyco for... "do you have a match, a light"
you may have coined something flashy, but I'd rather not write a show about it --
got any new material? IM FRESH OUT
Dusty - 12 Dec 2006 02:56 GMT Well, he did tell someone to kiss his "black a.s". sooooo
2fingah - 10 Dec 2006 17:50 GMT > I am no body speacial, & I am poor too by the way.My remark was made > based on the posts that I read,& the generosity of spirit shown by > cybercat;In fact everyone who wished you compassion &best wishes would > feel the same(I assume?)To be so cruel & rude to anyone who showed you > such kindness was unessacery &hurfull. you should simply sort the posts in sequence. what happened sheelagh? somewhere between the gift I asked her not to send and the giving... something changed. what? what changed? it wasn't my words of graciousness.
dont' entangle yourself in guile, sort the posts in sequence, figure out why the apology was retracted. then post back
<snip ignorance>
-L. - 09 Dec 2006 17:36 GMT > Barry is indeed a knuckle-dragging, cat abusing piece of sh.t. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > *shaking my head* Take the cat food you would have sent Barry and find a local shelter who needs it. Better yet, support a moggie until it gets adopted. Supporting a needy cat is supporting a needy cat - there are thousands of them who need help. Your heart is in the right place - it's just sad that there are people in the world like Barry who have no ethics and will take advantage of others over and over, just because they can. The world needs more people who truly care. Don't beat yourself up for being one of the ones who does.
-L.
sheelagh - 09 Dec 2006 21:08 GMT very wise words & so true too
> > Barry is indeed a knuckle-dragging, cat abusing piece of sh.t. > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > -L. 2fingah - 09 Dec 2006 22:57 GMT > Take the cat food you would have sent Barry and find a local shelter > who needs it. there you go folks, an admission of sheer brokeness i told you dumbass! keep your a.s out of kmart and biglots! numbnutz
in times like these do what us niggas do! TAKE SOME sh.t BACK!
LMAO
GET YOU A BIG RED WIG AND SUNGLASSES AND TAKE SOME STUFF BACK LMAO
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
-L. - 10 Dec 2006 02:16 GMT > > Take the cat food you would have sent Barry and find a local shelter > > who needs it. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Keep raging Barry. Sooner or later you will get out all that anger you have pent up.
-L.
2fingah - 10 Dec 2006 04:41 GMT > Keep raging Barry. Sooner or later you will get out all that anger you > have pent up. > > -L. aw, -L. made an analysis how cute how adorable
2fingah - 10 Dec 2006 04:42 GMT > Keep raging Barry. Sooner or later you will get out all that anger you > have pent up. > > -L. aw, -L. made an analysis how cute how adorable
2fingah - 09 Dec 2006 21:45 GMT > *shaking my head* I should have known
here it is folks the raw truth about cyber
I can prove it by her own words
she lives in filth and squalor and she's an alcoholic
it's all adding up now.
she constantly bombarded brian about his drinking? she constantly accuses me of being filthy here? pfft! she wouldn't know sanitized if mr clean sh.t in her toilet
your lazy cybercat
just look at your flat a.s for the proof
I TOLD YOU DON'T SEND ME NO DAMN CAT FOOD
HARD HEADED WOMAN
Modell Rocks - 10 Dec 2006 05:26 GMT <usual crap>
Hi BP! How's the website?
;-)
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