> > > > > I have two of my babies I have to part with.
> > > >
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> > Sherry
> Boy for cat lovers most of you are sure a hateful group, Let me address
> some of the more serious questions.
Right. There is no good reason for you to breed these cats, asswipe.

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-L. - 13 Dec 2006 10:36 GMT
> > Boy for cat lovers most of you are sure a hateful group, Let me address
> > some of the more serious questions.
>
> Right. There is no good reason for you to breed these cats, asswipe.
Honestly, she's a case of Simply Doesn't Know Any Better. Seriously.
-L.
Oh God where should I start...
> Extra toes are not a deformity anymore; Science has found out
> it's actually a dominant trait, that's why we are seeing it more
> and more.
That's complete and utter bullshit. Cats don't naturally have 6 toes.
>It has never caused different or other deformities as you
> call it. It also is a dominant trait in humans but because people
> worried about what others thought, the doctors recommended for them to
> be removed shortly after birth so they wouldn't be out of place, it
> was thought to be an embarrassment in the past days.
This is bullshit as well. If polydactyly was dominant in humans we
would all have 6 fingers. Polydactyly is a mutation in humans (and
cats). It is most notably seen in subsequent generations of humans
where atomic bombs have been detonated.
>There is a cat
> that is accepted for show with extra toes, it's the Pixie Bob which
> also is a type of Manx.
Not by any reputable cat association.
>So my guess is that the polydactyl and short
> tail is from that type of cat. But I have no proof, because these cats
> are not papered.
Manx cats have a defomity of the spinal column. Many manx cats have
continuous problems with defecation - constipation and low tonation of
the muscles in the perianal region.
> And you guys are right I'm not a breeder, so I don't have a waiting
> list.
So you shouldn't be breeding cats. Period. Of any kind.
>I live in a small town surrounded by ranchers, and we must
> travel 200 miles to get any major stuff, and sadly there are many feral
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> Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice
> Christmas present
Animals should never be given as a gift. What happens to that cute
little Christmas kitten is that, come Summer, it isn't so cute and
cuddly any more, goes into heat and/or starts to spray, gets dumped
outdoors to breed and start the ugly cycle again, get eaten by coyotes,
hit by a car, and/or gets dumped at the local shelter.
>and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for
> all the cats she gets spayed & neuteres, and give someone a real break
> in price for someone who might want a Bengal for a pet, not to show..
If you want to help her give her cash anonymously.
> For me, I'm disabled so I spend all my time at home with them,
> and My chows.
> I got lucky to have gotten these two, These two allready had the
> hybred Manx and Pixie Bob crossed with Bengal.
In other words, they're moggies (mixed breeds) - just like all other
cats at the shelters in every city in every state in the US. There is
nothing "special" about the cats you have.
> My three favorite type
> of cats all in one.
Let me guess - because of the way they look!
> They have had all there shots; with a record of the people they
> came from and there parents.
Whooppeee dooo! I can give you a paper that says they are nothing but
run-of-the mill cats bread by idiots who don't know any
better...Please, please get your cats and kittens spayed and neutered
immediately.
> As for health problems I know nothing about the things you've
> mentioned,
Does that not surprise me...?
>due to the fact that I have had cats all my life and I have
> never seen any health problems
/me whacks head against desk.
>except for in a cat I rescued that had
> spinal Bifida, this cat would have been killed because this problem, is
> a deformity, that takes a great deal of extra care. But as long as
> she's happy to live with her conditions I love her enough to deal
> with it.
Let me guess. This kitten was a product of breeding a manx...?
> And yes Bengals have a different personality. Mine I love dearly.
> The biggest difference that I noticed is; from the day we brought them
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> have never shown any fear to our dogs, they even trusted there babies
> by them.????
Look - I am sure you are a very nice lady. But breeding cats is
something that should only be done with the true interest of the breed
in mind, by people who have an in-depth knowledge of the genetics of
the breed, breed-associated illnesses and genetic problems, and who
have a lot of experience in dealing with the breed and cats in general.
> Oh someone said our Address and links are bogus, I checked and
> the number I forgot to give the prefix, .
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> wich is Lois's phone
> What's a troll anyway?
A troll is someone who posts to newsgroups merely to inflame others.
> and a kitten mill?
A kitten mill is a breeding facility which churns out hundreds of cats
a year for profit alone, without any regard for the breed, cat health,
welfare or humanity.
You might check out the newsgroup rec.pets.cats.anecdotes. I think
it's right up your alley...
-L.
> > > > > > I have two of my babies I have to part with.
> > > > >
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> and a kitten mill?
> Enigma, at enigma@tnet.biz
Look. You seem like a nice lady and I'm sure you love your cats. But
please, just answer me this.
You already see your friend Lois desperately trying to curb cat
overpopulation, one cat at a time. Chipping away at an overwhelming
problem with her own money. You've seen her, no doubt, try to home some
of these cats. You probably know how hard that is. You probably know
that most shelters are already filled with homeless cats.
Then why. Oh, why. Are you deliberately bringing more cats into the
world?
Sherry
> Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice
> Christmas present and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for
> all the cats she gets spayed & neuteres, and give someone a real break
> in price for someone who might want a Bengal for a pet, not to show..
The worst thing would be to give one of these cats as a Christmas gift.
A cat is a living, breathing being that needs a lifetime commitment of
care, and should not be given to someone on a whim.
sriddles@aol.com - 15 Dec 2006 04:32 GMT
> > Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice
> > Christmas present and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for
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> A cat is a living, breathing being that needs a lifetime commitment of
> care, and should not be given to someone on a whim.
A cat is a horrible Christmas present, as a surprise present.. It will
be your companion for the rest of its life. Even a child should be able
to choose his own cat/kitten. A child too young to choose, is too young
to have a cat anyway.
Sherry
Enigma - 15 Dec 2006 08:08 GMT
> > > Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice
> > > Christmas present and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for
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>
> Sherry
Enigma - 15 Dec 2006 09:15 GMT
> > > Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice
> > > Christmas present and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for
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>
> Sherry
No, You miss understand the part about a christmas present. I would
never give the kitten it's self as a present, I was going to use the
money it's self from selling them on Lois's vet bill. I'm sure some of
you won't agree, but that is the plan. And the person that sugested
giveing money insted, when I sell the kittens, I Plan too. Dissabilty
is not much to live on while rasing a teen age daughter.
Oh and for the person that keeps coming back with things that are
about physical traits on the kittens. I personaly love the breeds
they are for personality traits that I'v found in those breeds, but, in
my ad I couldnt say "For Sale kittens with great and unque
personalitys". I think those comments come up when a intrested buyer
calls to talk and find out more.
And as for this group I find your honesty refreshing. I have more to
say but I have to get up early for my daughters basketball game, way
out of town ( due to us living in a small rural area) lots of driving.
sriddles@aol.com - 17 Dec 2006 00:04 GMT
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I personaly love the breeds
> they are for personality traits that I'v found in those breeds, but, in
> my ad I couldnt say "For Sale kittens with great and unque
> personalitys". I think those comments come up when a intrested buyer
> calls to talk and find out more.
I don't understand this. Health issues WRT a breeding program come
first and foremost, of course. What testing do you do on your kittens
before they're adopted? Are your breeding cats tested for things like
PKD or other genetic issues? What prenatal care for the breeder cat,
and what vaccinations do you give each kitten? Are they neutered before
placing?
Personality traits and breed characteristics are fine. But it should
never be the focus of the breeding program.
Sherry