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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2006why do yall do this to me
you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad it's not fair right here before Christmas > you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad > it's not fair > > right here before Christmas Wow. I can understand getting mad and ranting and then feeling bad about it, but I can't understand the "why do yall do this to me" and "you make me..." You're in charge of your own feelings and actions, Barry. Rhonda > You're in charge of your own feelings and actions, Barry. > > Rhonda <sniif sniff> I am? <sniff> <flexing my foot in my shoe> so I shouldn't listen to the mean people <sniff> > you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad > it's not fair > > right here before Christmas I haven't said a word Barry >> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >> it's not fair >> >> right here before Christmas > > I haven't said a word Barry Like a true anecdolt. >>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Like a true anecdolt. Are you trying to insult me Cyber? I have kept my nose out of this little spat you all are having with everyone. I ma keeping my opinions to myself and trying to stay out of this. >>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > spat you all are having with everyone. I ma keeping my opinions to myself > and trying to stay out of this. "Little spat?" Ugh. >>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ugh. Yes little spat you are screaming basically at him. Do you honestly think it is going to work. I don't agree with him on what happened but I am old enough to know that they way both of you are going about ain't doing nothing. Step back think about it what would you do if someone was doing what your are doing. I know what I would do > Yes little spat you are screaming basically at him. Do you honestly think > it is going to work. I don't agree with him on what happened but I am old > enough to know that they way both of you are going about ain't doing > nothing. Step back think about it what would you do if someone was doing > what your are doing. I know what I would do well, I respect your thoughts there, and you reserve your right to withold an opinion. Im cool with that like none of these sluts have never been knocked up by some swinging dick much less a cat however.. you're right.. to argue with them is endless and, I won't add any insults to this post Cheerio And what I mean by that Barry is that I am not going to pass judgment on what happened. I was not there I don't know truly your situation and why it happened. That is why I said I don't agree on what happened. I know you love your cats but as your friend I am asking you to please make sure you take care of the furballs when they come and PLEASE get her taken care off ASAP. DO what ever it takes to do it. All I can do is ask you as a friend to do this. No amount of screaming or insulting you as others are doing; that is their prerogative to do so and their choice to do. I know that won't work no matter how much they think it will. I guess age does have some advantages But Barry you know what you have to do. That is as deep as I am going >> Yes little spat you are screaming basically at him. Do you honestly >> think [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Cheerio > And what I mean by that Barry is that I am not going to pass judgment > on what happened. I was not there I don't know truly your situation and > why it happened. Here you go, Matthew. You can find it all in Google, but let me make it easy for you. She is pregnant because it is beyond Barry to keep his f.cking door closed, let alone get her spayed. Furthermore, an issue like cat overpopulation could never matter to Barry or to "mee" as much as it does to you because it does not DIRECTLY affect them. Children and idiots, out of sight, out of mind. The most important thing is not to do the right thing, it is, to them, to do the easiest thing. And whatever harm they cause, well, they are "only HUUUUman." Barry is selfish, hard-hearted, and shallow as hell. Recall that a month ago Iwas ARGUING with him and his little breeder bitch about whether or not they HAD THE ABILITY to keep their cats inside. There isn't even a question about it, of course they do. Point: Barry was not invested enough, he did not care enough about Jupiter to put forth the effort to keep her in. Therefore she is pregnant. In fact, it is just luck that she was not ripped topieces by the pack of dogs that killed his last cat. He actually posted here that he saw them recently. And if she had been killed, he would expect us to feel sorry for HIM. That's the truth, regardless of what anyone WANTS to think. > And what I mean by that Barry is that I am not going to pass judgment on > what happened. well she got out, and she got pregnant she bolted past me several times.. rather than chase her down.. into the hedge of poison sumac, I thought.. well.. she may not be in heat ( i didn't know).. and I thought.. she'll be back when she's hungry (and she was)... it just happened. Im not ashamed of where my money goes, I know where my money goes. If I had 125.00 tonight... it would be split... some for my gas tank, some for my insurance that would suck that much up if I had 125.00 behind that.. It would go for cell phone, isp, cat food... no particular order but the point is.. spaying is a luxury I cannot afford it would be nice, of course I understand the long term bennys of des-sexing these little sanctimonious bitches that do nothing but spend money BUT WON'T WORK? I have no use for them they all sound like my X wife. my X im laying under the truck IN THE SNOW AND ICE repairing my truck transmission I had been at it for hours the most the bitch in the house could do was stick her warm head out and holler "how much longer! we wanna goto the mall!" im thinking.. "bring me a f.cking cup of hot coffee, maybe I will get done faster" "call me in for some dinner or a f.cking bologna sandwich" ANYTHING the same bitch wouldn't bring me a glass of lemonade after cutting 2 acres of thorny grass with a push mower... it's take take take exact exact exact get what you can get from the old mutherfucker he's just a f.cking flunky however ol friend.. I don't buy into that sort of treatment I'd rather be in the woods than in the same house with a nagging fault finding woman i'd rather live on the roof than under the roof with a contentious woman she is loud! her feet don't stay at home! (up in my business on the interenet) if I was married to cybercat and the devil walked up and said... "hi my name is Lucifer" i'd say." pleased to meet ya! I'm married to your sister". >> And what I mean by that Barry is that I am not going to pass judgment on >> what happened. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > but the point is.. spaying is a luxury I cannot afford Because you will not get a JOB. > it would be nice, of course I understand the long term bennys of > des-sexing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > they all sound like my X wife. my X You know that I have worked since I was 15 years old an have always, ALWAYS supported myself. > You know that I have worked since I was 15 years old an have > always, ALWAYS supported myself. ain't you a little mature to be holding that card? ya dug in for a little "hard working moralite" you came out with the OLDE MAID aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! remember that card game? remember that face? job shmob... I create jobs, I employ people like you cybercat people like you, need people like me to put food on the table >> You know that I have worked since I was 15 years old an have >> always, ALWAYS supported myself. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > people like you, need people like me to put food on the table You're delusional. And your usual, childish self. FACE the consequences of YOUR actions. I'm finished here. > if I was married to cybercat and the devil walked up and said... "hi my > name is Lucifer" > i'd say." pleased to meet ya! I'm married to your sister". That's actually funny. That you think you could ever get that lucky. Here's a hint: I never have a cross word with an honest man. > Here's a hint: I never have a cross word with an honest man. ROFLMAO Im getting out the way.. lightening might strike that post besides, your comment sounds plagerized.. now where have I heard that statement before? >> Here's a hint: I never have a cross word with an honest man. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > besides, your comment sounds plagerized.. now where have I heard that > statement before? You and I had this conversation in private. We did not have to have it in public. That was your choice. Now you'll do your usual egg throwing. You're a child. A buffoon. I have nothing else to say to you. Go ahead and rage yourself silly. > I have nothing else to say to you. Go ahead and rage yourself silly. <RAGE RAGE RAGE> you wish you had the power to make me rage you haven't seen rage but go ahead and get the last word, that's all you want. you broke a.s ya broke a.s damn, now I have to take this $50.00 gift back to the store damn! >> I have nothing else to say to you. Go ahead and rage yourself silly. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > damn, now I have to take this $50.00 gift back to the store > damn! hahahaha! I forgot--you have one other virtue. You are funny. You know I am sending the cat food anyway, a.shole. I love Jupiter and Lucy. > You know I am sending the cat food anyway, a.shole. I love Jupiter and Lucy. you don't have to send "Ocean Whitefish Dinners" cybercat, we are all fed and warm, but thank you. i need a hug >> You know I am sending the cat food anyway, a.shole. I love Jupiter and >> Lucy. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > i need a hug Come here, daddy. I still loves you. And you better tell us all about those kittens. You know we had to give you sh.t about this. We had to. Is that the only flavor? I can get a variety pack. http://tinyurl.com/y2re75 Look good? I am getting the 10-lb. You can go to http://petfooddirect.com/ And look at the canned cat food, pick out which 9 Lives you want. There is also one kitten food (canned) that is on sale for $9.99 for 24-3-0z cans, that is cheaper than Fancy Feast. I want them to have canned and dried, and for Jupiter to eat the kitten food for the rest of her pregnancy. She needs the nutrients and it will give her lots of good milk. Maybe if you don't have to bother with food you can find the spaying money. Anyway, go look, and pick out your canned food. I can do 24 cans of kitten and 24 cans of adult. You can get better than 9 Lives if you want. I figured your babies into my Christmas list. > I figured your babies into my Christmas list. well, I am certainly writing down these nursing foods you all mention. Ill buy Jupiter something just for her needs. These two eat side by side.. sometimes.. off the same little round loaf... hmmmm... what are the odds of Lucy nursing? lol git her girls! more boobs to have I bet it could happen... a serrogate mother produces milk, lets down, and the babies nurse. >> I figured your babies into my Christmas list. > > well, I am certainly writing down these nursing foods you all mention. > Ill buy Jupiter something just for her needs. No need, it is my pleasure. If you don't want to pick the brand, I will. This one looks good: http://tinyurl.com/yc5yra Notice that the first ingredients are: Chicken, Turkey, Chicken Broth, Lamb, Chicken Liver, Herring(source of Omega 3), Lamb, Brown Rice, Egg Pretty good! Jup can eat it now, and the babies later. You will want to feed this and the dry to Jupiter as long as she is nursing. > These two eat side by side.. sometimes.. off the same little round > loaf... Well, I would not imagine it could hurt Lucy, just maybe make her fat for a little while. Who knows, she might eat less since it is rich. > hmmmm... what are the odds of Lucy nursing? > lol [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I bet it could happen... a serrogate mother produces milk, lets down, > and the babies nurse. I think all it takes is for the kittens to suckle her. That is what signals the babies to make the milk if I recall correctly. There are actually cases of human men lactating when suckled by babies. > There are actually > cases of human men lactating when suckled by babies. OMG, TMI! :) Rhonda >> There are actually >> cases of human men lactating when suckled by babies. > > OMG, TMI! :) > > Rhonda :) What is TMI?  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>> There are actually >>> cases of human men lactating when suckled by babies. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > :) What is TMI? Too much information. Hugs, CatNipped >>>>There are actually >>>>cases of human men lactating when suckled by babies. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Too much information. Yep, that's it! Rhonda >>>>>There are actually >>>>>cases of human men lactating when suckled by babies. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rhonda hahaha! But it is true! Men have lactated and fed children in times of need. >>>>>>There are actually >>>>>>cases of human men lactating when suckled by babies. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >hahaha! But it is true! Men have lactated and fed children in times of need. That could make for an interesting web site. Maybe Barry should put himself on a high-protein diet while the kittens are gestating. Charlie >>hahaha! But it is true! Men have lactated and fed children in times of >>need. >> > That could make for an interesting web site. Maybe Barry should put > himself on a high-protein diet while the kittens are gestating. hahahaha! Barry looks like a big beautiful cat, you know. He would make a fine papa cat. Glad you're feeling better, Charlie. If I read your post right, your appendicitis did not hurt that bad? You must have some pain threshold! >> I figured your babies into my Christmas list. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I bet it could happen... a serrogate mother produces milk, lets down, > and the babies nurse. nah, but she'll help her look after the bitties :) babysit, that sorta thing! >> I have nothing else to say to you. Go ahead and rage yourself silly. > > <RAGE RAGE RAGE> > > you wish you had the power to make me rage > you haven't seen rage I'm not afraid of you, you're nothing but a weenie. All you had to do was say, "yeah, I should have kept her in, I could have kept her in. I'll do better in the future, and yeah, I will find a way to get her spayed." Learn, for a change. >>> I have nothing else to say to you. Go ahead and rage yourself silly. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Learn, for a change. I can see civil works a lot better Barry and every one else you can go here for a free sample http://www.purina.com/petlover/index.aspx > > And what I mean by that Barry is that I am not going to pass judgment on > > what happened. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > it just happened. No, it didn't "just happen". You LET it happen. > Im not ashamed of where my money goes, I know where my money goes. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > but the point is.. spaying is a luxury I cannot afford Then don't have a cat - let alone 2. > it would be nice, of course I understand the long term bennys of > des-sexing > > these little sanctimonious bitches that do nothing but spend money > BUT WON'T WORK? I have no use for them I worked for 19 years - every day I wasn't sick. You should try it sometime. > they all sound like my X wife. my X > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > it's take take take That's your refrain, isn't it? > exact exact exact > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > name is Lucifer" > i'd say." pleased to meet ya! I'm married to your sister". You'd be lucky to find *anyone* who would have you, let alone someone as smart and honest as cybercat. -L. >> And what I mean by that Barry is that I am not going to pass judgment on >> what happened. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If I had 125.00 tonight... it would be split... > some for my gas tank, some for my insurance If you take the bus you can put the money you would have spent in gas in a jar marked "Vet Expenses" > that would suck that much up > if I had 125.00 behind that.. It would go for > cell phone, isp, cat food... no particular order If you use your land line phone instead of a cell you can put the money you would have spent on paying the cell phone in a jar marked "Vet Expenses". > but the point is.. spaying is a luxury I cannot afford Spaying is a necessity that your cats can not afford *NOT* to have. A queen who has litter after litter will soon wear out her body (not to mention her spirit) and the once playful affectionate kitten will become a drawn-out, listless shell of what she once was. The point is, Barry, that the *THINGS* in your life have no feelings, know no suffering, and although they may be convenient and give momentary pleasure, they can give you no true joy in your life. The tiny lives that depend on you for their very existence can give you immeasureable love. God put His creatures into our care, and when we neglect or abuse them we risk of His sorrow and disappointment. Also, when you make even a small sacrifice for the sake of a loved one, that alone will give you a glowing feeling inside that transcends any pleasure you may get from material things. As I said in another post, eat Raman noodles for a week instead of meat at every meal... walk to the bus stop instead of driving to your destination...forego smoking for a few days (which will benefit your lungs as well as your cats). There are many, many ways you can squeeze out the cost of a spay or neuter and, having done so, you never have to worry again about her darting out and being hurt or getting pregnant again. Hugs, CatNipped > it would be nice, of course I understand the long term bennys of > des-sexing [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > name is Lucifer" > i'd say." pleased to meet ya! I'm married to your sister". > The point is, Barry, that the *THINGS* in your life have no > feelings, know no suffering, and although they may be convenient [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > care, and when we neglect or abuse them we risk of His sorrow > and disappointment. Amen Sista! Your entire post was so excellent that I had tears in my eyes, but these two paragraphs are the most meaningful. "They depend on us". Such a simple, yet so powerful a concept. Your suggestions about giving up just small things to save up for care for these wonderful creatures were good ones. SignatureCheryl >>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > doing nothing. Step back think about it what would you do if someone > was doing what your are doing. I know what I would do Oh, God, are you in trouble now Matthew. You dared to disagree with cybercat, now you will be damned to hell for all eternity!! >>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Oh, God, are you in trouble now Matthew. You dared to disagree with > cybercat, now you will be damned to hell for all eternity!! ROFLMAOPIMP I already was ;-) > ROFLMAOPIMP > > I already was ;-) This is the stupid, backyard breeder bitch who told Barry it was okay, of course he could not keep Jupiter in, what a crazy thing for me to say, there was no way he could keep her in. Even though she is BLACK and it was days before Halloween, and she is unspayed, and his last cat was killed by junkyard dogs. Barry just loves "mee." She is a goddesss. A Queen. She tells him what he wants to hear. "It's okay, your're just huuuuuuuman, you didn't mean it, you're just POOOOOR, everyone knows that POOR people can't keep their f.cking door closed, that costs MONEY. hahahah! 'Night Matthew. >> ROFLMAOPIMP >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > 'Night Matthew. Night Cyber I still know you love me ;-) >>> ROFLMAOPIMP >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> > Night Cyber I still know you love me ;-) Yes, Matthew, I do. :) >>>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > I already was ;-) Lol Hey!! Me too!! Because I (gasp) Breed cats!@! Da da da daaaah.... >>>>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Lol Hey!! Me too!! Because I (gasp) Breed cats!@! > Da da da daaaah.... I may not agree with breeding in general. That is My opinion. I won't knock the person unless they are running a mill. Than nothing in all the world could help you. >>>>>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > knock the person unless they are running a mill. Than nothing in all the > world could help you. Fair enough. And I agree on the mills. I know cybercat likes to lump me in the 'backyard breeder' category, but she is wrong. I could go into detail about what I do, but I doubt anyone here would be interested. All they see is the thousands of kittens they must put down, and place the blame at my feet, regardless of differences in country/practises. >>>>>>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > is the thousands of kittens they must put down, and place the blame at my > feet, regardless of differences in country/practises. You might have take taken that wrong. I understand breeding and the use of it in the world today. It is the "normal" cat breeding I don't agree with. As for the more exotic breeding IMO needs to be more regulated I opened a cat book the other day and counted over 200 breeders for one type of furball in a general area. > You might have take taken that wrong. I understand breeding and the use > of it in the world today. It is the "normal" cat breeding I don't agree > with. As for the more exotic breeding IMO needs to be more regulated I > opened a cat book the other day and counted over 200 breeders for one type > of furball in a general area. Australia is as overrun with unwanted animals as any other country. "Mee" is an imbecile. A selfish imbecile. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> You might have take taken that wrong. I understand breeding and the use >> of it in the world today. It is the "normal" cat breeding I don't agree [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > "Mee" is an imbecile. A selfish imbecile. Cyber I am not promoting or knocking that industry. I understand it but what I am saying does not mean that I am going out to get an furball from a breeder. Everyone of my cats have been a real rescue everyone knows their stories No matter what there is going to be someone that wants something different and there is going to be someone to provide it. No matter what anyone's says here. I don't finder breeders evil but in the same sense I may not believe in it but I am not going to knock someone for it unless it is a mill. I have been in the shelters and done my and keep doing my part to do what I can. I have seen all of it, cried myself to sleep may of a night. I am no way in any way defending breeders so no one think that. What a minute strike that I speak my mind if someone does not like it that can kiss my retired a@@ > No matter what there is going to be someone that wants something different > and there is going to be someone to provide it. No matter what [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > a minute strike that I speak my mind if someone does not like it that can > kiss my retired a@@ You go, baby. :D I don't think breeders are necessarily evil. I had no problem with "mee" until she backed Barry up when he said he could not manage to keep Jupiter inside the house. It was not beyond his capabilities to do so. He is a bright and resourceful young man. Making excuses merely endangered Jupiter by making Barry feel it was just fine to let her out. It was not fine. Happily, she is pregnant rather than dead, but that is the only good thing I can say about the outcome. My point of view? I know and love this cat. I care about this cat and want her to have a nice life and be safe. For "mee" to jump in and back Barry up in his lackadaisical attitude about keeping her in, amounted to her endangering an animal I love. Her point of view? To jack Barry off, stroke that big old ego. I was thinking about Jupiter. I love Jupiter. I cannot stand the thought of anyone, including Barry, endangering her. It's simple. And anyone who does not like that can kiss my working stiff a@@. :D >> No matter what there is going to be someone that wants something >> different and there is going to be someone to provide it. No [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > :D Now I can understand what you where getting at everything else just looked like a big rant and spat Personally me and Barry talk off post just you like you to have done in the past Cyber I am going to email you off post so if you see a weird email later on from a hotmail account that is me > Now I can understand what you where getting at everything else just > looked like a big rant and spat [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Cyber I am going to email you off post so if you see a weird email later > on from a hotmail account that is me Okay. I wonder what the h is wrong with my word wrap? >> You might have take taken that wrong. I understand breeding and the use >> of it in the world today. It is the "normal" cat breeding I don't agree [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > "Mee" is an imbecile. A selfish imbecile. There are very few exotic breeds showing up in shelters here. A quick google would show you that. The only breed mixes and breeds that show up are either the product of backyard cross breeders or pet shops. We get kicked out if we sell to pet shops or backyard breeders. Most of us also have recue cats, volunteer and donate to shelters. But I suppose you don't care, we are convenient people to blame, and you prefer to condemn without thinking. >>>>>>>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > opened a cat book the other day and counted over 200 breeders for one type > of furball in a general area. Thanks Matthew. I guess I'm a little sensitive with all the aggression here atm. I agree on the regulation; that is far too many breeders in one spot!! Over here it's a bit more regulated I think, there are no other breeders within and hours drive of my town, so I'm the only one. I also had to be vouched for by a member of my association before I was allowed to register, they even rang up my reference and questioned her about my setup, ethics etc. There is a lot of improvement still needed in regulating the number of cats each breeder is allowed; I know of many breeders who breed more cats than they can find homes for. >>>>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Lol Hey!! Me too!! Because I (gasp) Breed cats!@! > Da da da daaaah.... Are you testing for FCoV? >>>>>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Are you testing for FCoV? Yes. They get a health check including that before they go. >>>>>>>>>>> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >>>>>>>>>>> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Yes. They get a health check including that before they go. So you have a corona negative cattery? > So you have a corona negative cattery? the heck is that? mine is heineken positive (sometimes) > >> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad > >> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Like a true anecdolt. No, like a true hypocrite. -L. >> >> you make me cuss and rant, then I feel bad >> >> it's not fair [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -L. You are not worth arguing with
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