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Juls - 21 Apr 2004 18:29 GMT
It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
last night.

For those of you who were around back in February 2002, you will
remember the story of Jack and Catharine. For those of you who are new,
please allow me to share it once again.

The full story, with pictures, is at http://www.ect.org/dj

Catharine was a frequent poster to this newgroup, and she had a
devastating case of breast cancer. The doctors only gave her months to
live, and her primary concern was that the cat she loved so much, Jack,
would find a safe and loving home. She posted here, hoping to find
someone in Seattle, where she lived. I said I would adopt Jack if we
could find a way to get him from Seattle to the St. Louis area, where I
lived.

It snowballed so quickly that within a couple of days, the plan was
underway! Megan of this group found a wonderful company called Pro Pet
Transports, who agreed to a price break because the story touched them
as well, and the wonderful, generous cat lovers from this group
immediately began to call the company with donations. Almost as quickly
as the plan started, the "Jack Fund" was filled.

I will never forget the love and generosity from so many in this
newgroup.

Jack was fostered with Beth, and then began his trip east. Jack truly
became this newgroup's cat. Everyone loved Jack.

I had a senior cat named Dmitri, and I just knew he would love Jack. We
weren't too sure how Jack would feel about Dmitri, though. He had been
a feral rescue in Seattle, and now he was traveling across America to a
strange and new home...with a resident cat.

I followed the program of keeping them in separate rooms for two weeks
and giving them one another's sleeping towels to get used to the
scents, but within days, Jack had escaped his room and made his own
introduction.

They have been best friends from that point on, and if you saw them
together, you would swear they were litter mates. It's as if they were
always a team. The boys, the twins, the BOOKENDS.

Today, Jack and Dmitri are as much a pair as Laurel and Hardy. They do
everything together: sleep, eat (even sharing plates, just because they
like to do it), play and watch the birds from their window. Sometimes
it's as if they are joined at the hip. And mutual groomfests are a
daily event. (It still often brings a tear to my eye to watch them lick
each other with so much love...these two boys just ADORE one another!)

Catharine loved Jack enough to make sure that he had a new home before
she left this earth. She left behind so many people who loved and
admired her, and she brought awareness of living with cancer while
keeping your sense of humor and a sense of grace.

But to me, the most important thing is that she knew Jack was happy and
that he had a safe and loving home. She loved him so much that she made
sure he had that.

I know there are many who would have wanted to know that Catharine's
journey on earth has come to an end, and to join me in remembering what
a wonderful, generous woman she was.

In Catharine's memory, I would like to ask that the next time you adopt
a cat, please consider adopting an older cat. That should be part of
Catharine's legacy, to remember the cats that are hard to place and to
give them loving homes.

Once again, I thank the wonderful people of this newsgroup who so
generously opened their hearts and their wallets to find Jack a new
home. I will always be so thankful. Jack and Dmitri are so happy
together!

With sadness, but surrounded by cat love,

Juls, Jack and Dmitri

p.s. Jack knew that Catharine was dying. I know that may sound strange,
but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
stopped loving her.
Priscilla H Ballou - 21 Apr 2004 18:54 GMT
Juls <jal2@removememindspring.com> quoth:
>It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
>last night.

Oh, dear.  I knew it would be coming one of these days, but it's still
sad.  How interesting that is medium, which so many claimed isolates
people in front of their computer screens, would actually bring people
together across continents.  These communities of interest from
newsgroups, mailing lists, and so on are genuine communities, with people
really touching and being touched by each others' lives.

[snip]

>Once again, I thank the wonderful people of this newsgroup who so
>generously opened their hearts and their wallets to find Jack a new
>home. I will always be so thankful. Jack and Dmitri are so happy
>together!

It was wonderful to be a part of that story.  Another good one is the
story of Waffles and Jill, which people can read about here:  
http://www.felinecompanions.homestead.com/Waffles.html

>With sadness, but surrounded by cat love,

>Juls, Jack and Dmitri

Thanks for letting us know.

>p.s. Jack knew that Catharine was dying. I know that may sound strange,
>but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
>stopped loving her.

Would you mind sharing some about this?

Priscilla
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Juls - 21 Apr 2004 19:19 GMT
> >p.s. Jack knew that Catharine was dying. I know that may sound strange,
> >but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
> >stopped loving her.
>
> Would you mind sharing some about this?

I don't mind at all. Periodically, I would check the breast cancer
support newsgroup for updates on Catharine. She had outlived all the
grim predictions, and in my heart, I always had hope that she would
somehow beat it. Once in awhile I would say hi to Catharine there.

Then she moved back to Hawaii to live with an aunt, and the area was
remote (on a volcano! How cool is that?!?). They had no net access, but
one of the posters in that group was exchanging snail mail with her and
would occasionally post how she was doing. The last I knew, she had
been still hanging in there pretty well.

So yesterday morning, I was getting out of the shower, and there was
Jack. He usually doesn't come in the bathroom when I'm showering. He
just started crying (he has this big booming voice, but this was
different, like he was literally crying). He was so sad, which isn't
typical Jack. I picked him up and asked him what was wrong, and he just
cried and cuddled and clung to me, like his heart was breaking.

So I laid down on the bed with him and comforted him..Dmitri was there
already, so I knew nothing was wrong with Dmitri. And then it just hit
me, Catharine. I can't explain it, but this wave of knowing just came
over me as I cuddled and comforted Jack.

I later opened up the newsgroup, and sure enough, Catharine's sister
had posted a week ago that the end was very likely near and she would
be flying to Hawaii from Texas to be with her. She said she planned to
return to Texas on the 21st unless events changed that, so I kept
checking the group for an update. She posted early this morning (I
think 2 am Hawaii time) that Catharine had died. Now I realize in
reading that again, that Catharine died Monday night, not last night. I
think the huge difference in Hawaii/mainland time confused me. She died
Monday night at around 10 pm Hawaii time, which I guess would have been
early morning yesterday. And it was yesterday morning, I believe, that
Jack came to me.

I really believe that somehow Jack knew and was grieving yesterday when
he came to me like that. I know some will find it strange and
fantastic, and I can't blame anyone for that. If I hadn't experienced
his crying and clinging and his overwhelming sadness, I wouldn't think
it possible either.

Had it not been for that, I likely wouldn't have checked the group for
another couple of months.

Juls
Priscilla H Ballou - 21 Apr 2004 19:28 GMT
Juls <jal2@removememindspring.com> quoth:

>> >p.s. Jack knew that Catharine was dying. I know that may sound strange,
>> >but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
>> >stopped loving her.
>>
>> Would you mind sharing some about this?

>I don't mind at all.

[snip]

Thanks, Juls.  Please give Jack and Dmitri both nice long snuggly hugs
from me.  Their story has warmed my heart on many occasions.

Priscilla
MacCandace - 21 Apr 2004 19:30 GMT
<< I know some will find it strange and
fantastic, and I can't blame anyone for that. If I hadn't experienced
his crying and clinging and his overwhelming sadness, I wouldn't think
it possible either.  >>

I believe it.  She probably appeared to him and told him goodbye.  Is he better
now?  My cat, who died 3 weeks ago, appeared to me in a dream 4 nights later to
let me know he's okay.  I believe all that stuff.  Tell Jack we share his grief
but his original mom is okay.  He knows that, though, I imagine.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

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http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Juls - 21 Apr 2004 19:57 GMT
> << I know some will find it strange and
> fantastic, and I can't blame anyone for that. If I hadn't experienced
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> grief
> but his original mom is okay.  He knows that, though, I imagine.

Yeah, today he's just fine. What you say makes so much sense. Thank
you. :)
Cathy Friedmann - 21 Apr 2004 21:27 GMT
<snipped>
> I really believe that somehow Jack knew and was grieving yesterday when
> he came to me like that. I know some will find it strange and
> fantastic, and I can't blame anyone for that. If I hadn't experienced
> his crying and clinging and his overwhelming sadness, I wouldn't think
> it possible either.

Yes, it's strange & fantastic, but otoh, I can believe it.  Because...

Normally, my first cat never, ever slept *on* me - always next to me.
However there were just 3 times in her 17 years when she slept _on_ me, &
each time it turned out that when I later woke up I was nauseous & had to
throw up - had contracted a stomach bug, but hadn't realized it when I'd
gone to bed, feeling fine.  However, she apparently already knew I was sick,
before I had any physical symptoms.

So... animals (well, at least cats, IME) may sometimes have an extra sense -
or two, is my conclusion.  And therefore I can imagine that Jack may very
well have sensed the event of Catharine's death.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon

> Had it not been for that, I likely wouldn't have checked the group for
> another couple of months.
>
> Juls
Karen Chuplis - 22 Apr 2004 01:12 GMT
>>> p.s. Jack knew that Catharine was dying. I know that may sound strange,
>>> but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>
> Juls

Aww. I hope she knew how he was with her even at the end.

Karen
(with many tears)
MacCandace - 21 Apr 2004 19:26 GMT
<< p.s. Jack knew that Catharine was dying. I know that may sound strange,
but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
stopped loving her. >>

I'm sorry, Juls.  Thank you for telling us.  I've wondered about her often.
Your above sentence is very intriguing and comforting.  Kiss Jack for me.  I'm
glad he has a good home.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Cathy Friedmann - 21 Apr 2004 21:16 GMT
Even though I assumed this was going to happen at some point in the nearish
future, I am so sorry to hear this news.  But thank you very much for
letting us know.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble")  Paul Simon

> It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
> last night.
[quoted text clipped - 77 lines]
> but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
> stopped loving her.
Juls - 21 Apr 2004 22:42 GMT
This is kind of off topic, but maybe it's not really. In one of the
Chicken Soup books, I read this story long ago, and it's always touched
me. I'm going to post it here just because I love it so:

Puppies For Sale

A store owner was tacking a sign above his door that read ³Puppies For
Sale.² Signs like that have a way of attracting small children, and
sure enough, a little boy appeared under the store owner¹s sign. ³How
much are you going to sell the puppies for?² he asked.

The store owner replied, ³Anywhere from $30 to $50.²

The little boy reached in his pocket and pulled out some change. ³I
have $2.37,² he said. ³Can I please look at them?²

The store owner smiled and whistled and out of the kennel came Lady,
who ran down the aisle of his store followed by five teeny tiny balls
of fur. One puppy was lagging considerable behind. Immediately the
little boy singled out the lagging limping puppy and said, ³What¹s
wrong with that little dog?²

The store owner explained that the veterinarian had examined the little
puppy and had discovered it didn¹t have a hip socket. It would always
limp. It would always be lame. The little boy became excited. ³That¹s
the little puppy that I want to buy.²

The store owner said, ³No, you don¹t want to buy that little dog. If
you really want him, I¹ll just give him to you.²

The little boy got quite upset. He looked straight into the store
owner¹s eyes, pointing his finger and said, ³I don¹t want you to give
him to me. That little dog is worth every bit as much as all the other
dogs and I¹ll pay full price. In fact I¹ll give you $2.37 now, and 50
cents a month until I have him paid for.

The store owner countered, ³You really don¹t want to buy this little
dog. He is never going to be able to jump and play with you like the
other puppies.²

To this, the little boy reached down and rolled up his pant leg to
reveal a badly twisted, crippled left leg supported by a big metal
brace. He looked up at the store owner and softly replied, ³Well, I
don¹t run so well myself, and the little puppy will need someone who
understands!²

By Dan Clark
from Chicken Soup for the Soul
PawsForThought - 21 Apr 2004 22:43 GMT
>From: Juls jal2@REMOVEMEmindspring.com

>It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
>last night.

Oh, Juls, I'm so sorry to hear this :(

Hugs to you, Jack and Dmitri

Lauren
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Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 21 Apr 2004 23:12 GMT
> It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
> last night.

I am so sorry to hear that.  I thought of Catharine and Jack often.  I had
assumed that because she had moved to Hawaii she was doing much better, so
this is quite a shock.

There was a woman who posted more recently (within the last year or two)
from Canada (Red Deer, I think) who was looking to place her cat(s?)
temporarily while she got out of an abusive relationship.  Does anyone know
what happened with her?

rona
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"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and they will
piss upon your computer."
 --Bruce Graham
Karen Chuplis - 22 Apr 2004 01:08 GMT
> It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
> last night.
[quoted text clipped - 77 lines]
> but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
> stopped loving her.

I'm so sorry to hear this. Thank you for letting us know.

Karen
Laura R. - 22 Apr 2004 01:16 GMT
circa Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:29:36 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Juls (jal2@REMOVEMEmindspring.com) said,
> It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
> last night.
[quoted text clipped - 77 lines]
> but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
> stopped loving her.

I couldn't snip a word of your tribute to that wonderful woman. I've
often wondered how she was doing, and while I'm so saddened to hear
of her death, I'm glad that she knew her Jack was safe and loved.

Laura
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Cheryl - 22 Apr 2004 01:31 GMT
Juls <jal2@REMOVEMEmindspring.com> dumped this in  news:210420041229448294%
jal2@REMOVEMEmindspring.com on 21 Apr 2004:

> It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
> last night.

Many condolences for her family and friends. A couple of weeks ago I read
the site that you quoted; it was part of a search result set I had run.
When I first started posting here, Jack was recently adopted by you, and I
caught the tail-end of his saga, along with Dmitri's adaption to him. You
had quit posting and I wanted to hear more so I had to go find the story in
google. How amazing that he knew, but I am not at all surprised; cats never
surprise me. I wish many happy years for the three of you.

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Annie Wxill - 22 Apr 2004 02:11 GMT
> It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
> last night.
...>
> With sadness, but surrounded by cat love,
>
> Juls, Jack and Dmitri
Juls,
Thanks for the update.  I've thought of all of you from time to time and
wondered how things were going.  Don't be such a stranger here.
I'm sorry to hear that Catharine has passed. I'm sure you are right that
Jack knew and he was telling you.
Annie
Luvskats00 - 22 Apr 2004 09:49 GMT
What a wonderful story..I'm so glad things worked out...I hope y'all have a lot
of happy adventures together.
Karen M. - 22 Apr 2004 17:54 GMT
> It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
> last night.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The full story, with pictures, is at http://www.ect.org/dj

<snip>

Juls,

I do remember, I read both parts of your story and have no trouble at
all believing Jack knew he first mom had died. Animals know things we
don't - they have that sixth sense. He's so lucky to have a mom like
you now who understands and love him so - and so lucky to have Dmitri.
It must have been such a comfort to Catharine that her baby found such
a wonderful new home. My thoughts are with you all - and have everyone
give a hug from me to each other.

xoxo,
Karen
equalizer - 22 Apr 2004 22:46 GMT
>> It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
>> last night.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>xoxo,
>Karen

I remember she seemed to find so much joy and peace following the whole
journey to Juls' house. It was a very bittersweet thing to see happen,
sad and hopeful all at once.

eq
Ginger-lyn Summer - 22 Apr 2004 18:08 GMT
I am so sorry to hear this, but I am so glad that Jack is with you and
Dmitri in a loving home.  Please pass along my condolences to
Catharine's friends and family.

Blessings,

Ginger-lyn

>It is with great sadness that I share the news: Catharine Honeyman died
>last night.
[quoted text clipped - 77 lines]
>but he knew...and he let me know. That's how I found out. He has never
>stopped loving her.
 
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