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indoor cats & flea's??
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ensoul - 23 Sep 2006 16:40 GMT How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow Moe & Rudy out on my balconey, I know they'd jump off (I'm on the 2nd floor). They about a year & half old, neutered.
There is big flea problem in my area, anybody I know that has outdoor pets are having major problems with flea's, you can see them jumping around! Not that bad here, I did get get them both flea collor's, brand name one's, try to get a head start before they get to the vet. They are both long hair cats, too.
So how the heck do indoor cats get flea's? I haven't had to deal with flea's, my last cat was immune to them, Sam went outdoors and never, ever had flea's, maybe it's karma, LOL
And our flea collars enough?
ensoul
Niel Humphreys - 23 Sep 2006 17:12 GMT > How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets > outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > So how the heck do indoor cats get flea's? On people's clothes/shoes.
> And our flea collars enough? Nope you need to treat with proper flea treatment from your vet.
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The Polish-Kraut - 23 Sep 2006 18:48 GMT >> How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets >> outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Nope you need to treat with proper flea treatment from your vet. One thing that I found over the years is that IMHO flea collars are aout useless. I use topical flea treat such as Advantage.
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T - 24 Sep 2006 01:28 GMT > > How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets > > outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > On people's clothes/shoes. Or from critters that cats tend to track and play with.
> > And our flea collars enough? > > Nope you need to treat with proper flea treatment from your vet. I have two cats, both of whom are mousers. Emily was pulling out patches of her fur so the vet thought it might be fleas until I mentioned that Randy didn't have em'.
It turns out that Frontline Advantage is also useful for cats that pull fur because of allergies, which my little Emily has. They're just dreadfully expensive.
Niel Humphreys - 24 Sep 2006 02:03 GMT >> > How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets >> > outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Or from critters that cats tend to track and play with. With all due respect that's unlikely other than a sort term thing. Fleas species are specific to the animal's blood they drink, Human fleas won't drink cat's blood and nor will mouse etc fleas. The only fleas that will eat cats' blood are cat fleas.
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Lynne - 27 Sep 2006 13:32 GMT > With all due respect that's unlikely other than a sort term thing. Fleas > species are specific to the animal's blood they drink, Human fleas won't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Niel H This is not necessarily true. See http://www.insectresearch.com/ps_fleas.htm
"Fleas are not generally host specific. The cat flea, Ctenocephalides felis, can be found on a wide range of hosts from cats and dogs, through to camels and cattle. They are not adverse to biting humans and will happily live in association with them. There is, however, a human flea, Pulex irritans, which is quite rare and can also be found on a variety of hosts including badgers, pigs and foxes. Fleas can be found in the fur, feathers or sleeping areas of their hosts depending on the host's activity. In the home the cat flea is commonly found on both the cat, its bedding, or favourite area to lay in."
We had a flea problem years ago and the little suckers had no hesitation to bite me. Alot!
MaryL - 23 Sep 2006 17:18 GMT > How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets > outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > ensoul Fleas can be transported on your clothing, especially shoes (or brought in by friends who have pets with fleas).
Please don't use flea collars. They can be hazardous to your cats' health. Instead, pick up some flea treatment (*if needed*) from your vet -- Advantage, for example. Advantage, Frontline, and Revolution only need to be applied once a month if you have fleas (and not at all if you have not detected a problem).
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ensoul - 23 Sep 2006 18:01 GMT > Please don't use flea collars. They can be hazardous to your cats' health. > Instead, pick up some flea treatment (*if needed*) from your vet -- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > MaryL I used flea collars in the way past before they stuff like advanatage, Peabody couldn't handle it burned her skin so I got the type that a tag hanging down, the collar it's was just a plain plastic collar...I check dailey for any burns....they are going to the vet I just thought I could get a head start on the problem...cost is major factos now since my husband died my income has dropped by 3/4.....I'm trying to borrow money for it
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meeee - 26 Sep 2006 14:44 GMT >> Please don't use flea collars. They can be hazardous to your cats' >> health. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > and TY all for the info I'm not sure what it's like where you are, but here in Australia I can purchase Revolution, Advantage etc online for 1/2 the vet's price; I wouldn't be able to afford it for my 6 otherwise. I pay $25 +$5 p&h for a 3 pack of cat revolution. Vet price $45. That's aussie dollars, and I think the company I use ships worldwide. Give it a go. www.vetproductsdirect.com.au
dgk - 25 Sep 2006 13:34 GMT >Advantage, Frontline, and Revolution only need to >be applied once a month if you have fleas (and not at all if you have not >detected a problem). > >MaryL I thought they should be used for prevention. I hardly overuse it, generally I give one dose in early July and that's about it. The boys only go in the backyard, but I know it's possible for them to get fleas there even though it's pretty well sealed off from other critters. Squirrels certainly are all around.
I once had fleas in my apartment and it was a major mess getting rid of them. I'd have to burn down the house.
MaryL - 25 Sep 2006 23:39 GMT >>Advantage, Frontline, and Revolution only need to >>be applied once a month if you have fleas (and not at all if you have not [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I once had fleas in my apartment and it was a major mess getting rid > of them. I'd have to burn down the house. I wouldn't see anything wrong with that. I just meant that I would not like to see anyone use *any* of these flea products on a routine basis unless there was an actual need -- it's just not good to overmedicate, but once a year (such as you described) doesn't sound harmful to me. On the other hand, I also do not have a background in medicine.
MaryL
dgk - 26 Sep 2006 14:08 GMT >>>Advantage, Frontline, and Revolution only need to >>>be applied once a month if you have fleas (and not at all if you have not [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >year (such as you described) doesn't sound harmful to me. On the other >hand, I also do not have a background in medicine. The whole concept of Advantage, etc, scares me a bit. You put it on their skin, it seeps into their little bodies, and somehow protects them for a month or more. Very odd. But it's been in use for a while now and no apparent problems, so that seems good. And, I might add, no fleas.
Rhonda - 23 Sep 2006 17:58 GMT > How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets > outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > And our flea collars enough? Flea collars emit a continuous poison -- they are not a good idea for cats. Long ago that's about all there was, but now there are much easier and safer things. We've used Advantage from the vet, just one drop on their shoulder blades.
If you have people taking pets outside on leashes, they could be picking up fleas. Fleas also ride in on people's clothing.
Good luck,
Rhonda
Deeanna - 26 Sep 2006 16:35 GMT Hi Ensoul! I had three indoor only cats when I lived in Hawaii and they and my apartment were almost overrun by fleas. It was because I brought them in. Not only did I have them, but they were spreading to other apartments as well, thanks to me.
I finally got Frontline Plus from my vet and my flea problem stopped. She also gave me a spray for my carpet and it worked miracles. Not only did it get rid of the fleas, but they never came back. Unfortunatley, I do not remember the name of the spray. I do know that the stuff that is sold at pet stores did not work when I used them.
I now live in Florida, also a flea problem area, and all seven of my cats are still indoors but they go out to the pool area whenever they want. I applied Frontline Plus to all of them back in March and still no fleas. I apparently don't have any fleas in my yard either, thank goodness. I haven't seen any at least.
The one time I used flea collars, they did not work and they only aggravated my cats so I never used them again. Also, I would be extremely cautious of using any Hartz products. A few months ago, there was an article in Cat Fancy about the Hartz flea stuff for cats was killing cats. It was the stuff that you apply on the back between the shoulder blades. Hartz pulled it from the shelves, but they are still selling flea collars.
I have never had any luck with over-the-counter pet products, so I stopped wasting my money. I know it is more expensive to use the products sold by a vet, but in the long run I think you spend less money at the vet because you will not have to buy as much as you do of the over-the-counter products. They are not cheap, either.
I swear by Frontline Plus. I did not apply it every month as suggested because I do not want to over medicate my cats. So, I just watch them and at the first sight of a flea, I'll give all seven of them a dose. Deeanna
> How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets > outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > ensoul Deeanna - 28 Sep 2006 04:27 GMT Hello All! As a follow up to my post about Hartz products, please have a look at the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/againsthartz/
It explains what the Hartz products have done to cats. I was never a big fan of Hartz products anyway because they never worked and I found them to be a waste of money. But, these recent incidents have convinced me to never buy another Hartz product again.
Deeanna
> How does that happen? The housing Mangment here doesn't allow pets > outside unless on leash, I never bothered doing that. I don't eve aloow [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > ensoul
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