Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2004
when find kittens at shelter?
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quilterhusband - 11 Apr 2004 06:30 GMT We went to the shelter today to adopt two kittens. We want two so we can share them better in our family and so they will be happier when alone. but there were no kittens there. Only older cats...and no bonded pairs which we would consider too.
Is there a good time of year when to expect there would be kittens at the shelters here in California?
thank you for any input
Dennis Carr - 11 Apr 2004 07:46 GMT > Is there a good time of year when to expect there would be kittens at the > shelters here in California? Two important details -
1) Which part of California? Remember, we're a big state - it takes about ten to twelve hours to drive from San Diego to Weed, and that's if you're a) speeding and b) not stopping for ANYTHING. Better gas up.
2) Have you checked with independent adoption agencies and the private shelters?
Question one may not be an issue, but also keep in mind that...well, a wit of old once said "The problem with kittens is that they turn into cats". Many people want cute cuddly and playful, and in a few cases, will simply give up a full grown cat when in their eyes it stops being that cute, cuddly, playful little meatloaf on legs they bought or adopted. So finding shelter kittens could be quite a bit like finding hens' teeth.
Now one other extremely important question - why a kitten, versus a full grown cat?
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Laura R. - 11 Apr 2004 07:59 GMT circa Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:46:30 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Dennis Carr (ke6isf@spamcop.net) said,
> Now one other extremely important question - why a kitten, versus a full > grown cat? Actually, a more important question- isn't this the poster who just had his/her/its cat put to sleep rather than pay to treat it?
Laura
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MaryL - 11 Apr 2004 11:58 GMT > circa Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:46:30 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Dennis Carr (ke6isf@spamcop.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Laura Laura,
There have been a number of recent messages from "quilterhusband." They are very disturbing, if "real." I suspect a troll, and in this case I hope it is a troll -- otherwise, the prospects for some cats are dreadful.
Here are a couple of recent examples, for anyone who may want to look: In alt.pet.cats: The thread "Older cat attacked by feral ...help" describes in great detail how he/she shot and disposed of the body of the "feral" cat. Later, the thread "Not a feral....oopss!" describes the satisfaction the author felt when scraping up the body of the dead cat, even though a picture has now been posted by someone looking for that cat.
I read one message where the poster says that "quilterhusband" is also "Dan G." I can't vouch for that, but perhaps someone else can.
MaryL
Laura R. - 11 Apr 2004 14:35 GMT circa Sun, 11 Apr 2004 05:58:17 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, MaryL (carstan101@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER) said,
> Laura, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I read one message where the poster says that "quilterhusband" is also "Dan > G." I can't vouch for that, but perhaps someone else can. I knew there was a reason I skipped over those two threads. Yeesh. Troll or real, either way, this is somebody sick.
Laura
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Mary - 11 Apr 2004 16:26 GMT > > circa Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:46:30 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > > Dennis Carr (ke6isf@spamcop.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > MaryL That was me. He's also Jesse H. It is a troll. The main giveaway is that his headers appear to be fabricated. However, if they are, he always uses the same ones, and his IP is hanging out. But then, the IP may be doctored as well. It's a good troll, though, as the point is to upset people.
MaryL - 11 Apr 2004 17:18 GMT > > I read one message where the poster says that "quilterhusband" is > also "Dan [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > doctored as well. It's a good troll, though, as the > point is to upset people. Thanks. I have no idea how to read the headers for this type of information, so I have to rely on others. (I can look at properties and read the headers for the name of the newsreader, etc. ... but much of it looks like gibberish to me.)
MaryL
SpamTrap - 12 Apr 2004 06:17 GMT Mary said:
>>"Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > doctored as well. It's a good troll, though, as the > point is to upset people. I said that he was dangw as well. His IP address is not doctored though as he has posted to some of the Cox Internet Internal newsgroups which can only be done if you are a Cox internet customer.
Mary - 11 Apr 2004 16:21 GMT > circa Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:46:30 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Dennis Carr (ke6isf@spamcop.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Actually, a more important question- isn't this the poster who just > had his/her/its cat put to sleep rather than pay to treat it? I really think this is just a troll. I want to believe that there really was no old sweet cat that this dickhead let out to get attacked and then had killed because he would not take it to the vet for treatment. I need to believe it is a troll. It would be a good one, as upsetting as it is, wouldn't it?
If qh/ Dan G/Jesse H would just admit that this is all a troll, I say we give him RPCH&B Troll of the Year.
Dennis Carr - 11 Apr 2004 18:02 GMT > Actually, a more important question- isn't this the poster who just > had his/her/its cat put to sleep rather than pay to treat it? *checks backlog*
Oh fark. My bad. =O.o=
*digs in his apartment, finds The Sign, and promptly beats repeatedly on quilterhusband with a sign that prominently reads "Please don't feed the troll" before sticking it in the ground in front of $gender_relevant_pronoun*
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Linda E - 11 Apr 2004 18:41 GMT > > Actually, a more important question- isn't this the poster who just > > had his/her/its cat put to sleep rather than pay to treat it? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > troll" before sticking it in the ground in front of > $gender_relevant_pronoun* hehehe....
equalizer - 11 Apr 2004 18:49 GMT >> Actually, a more important question- isn't this the poster who just >> had his/her/its cat put to sleep rather than pay to treat it? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >troll" before sticking it in the ground in front of >$gender_relevant_pronoun* LOL!
MaryL - 11 Apr 2004 23:30 GMT > circa Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:46:30 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Dennis Carr (ke6isf@spamcop.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Laura I just posted a message to alt.cats (under the thread "when kittens at shelter?"). If I am reading the message correctly, one woman there is actually offering to drive some distance so "quilterhusband" can adopt two kittens from her!
I hope some of the rest of the regulars from this newsgroup will take a look at that thread!
MaryL
Laura R. - 13 Apr 2004 01:02 GMT circa Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:30:16 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, MaryL (carstan101@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER) said,
> > Actually, a more important question- isn't this the poster who just > > had his/her/its cat put to sleep rather than pay to treat it? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I hope some of the rest of the regulars from this newsgroup will take a look > at that thread! Unfortunately, my home ISP doesn't carry alt.cats for some reason.
Laura
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