Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / August 2006
Kitten is starting to pee outside the box
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Sooo many cats - 25 Aug 2006 06:55 GMT I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and newest addition to our family is about 6 months old and has NEVER peed outside the box, until now! none of my cats have ever had peeing problems, and all of a sudden yester day i wake up to an almost perfectly clean cat box and my littlelest one has peed on the floor near the wall next that is next to the toilet, and she did it again today during the day while i was at work. I clean out the cat box at least two times a day, usually once in the morning and once in the evening, and have never had a problem! nothing has changed in their lives they are all happy and healthy, they get table scrapps and there is always food and water in there bowls. what is going on that could make her suddenly start doing this?!?!?! HELP!!!
Matthew - 25 Aug 2006 07:50 GMT Could be a UTI that is usually the culprit when something like that happens. Vet needs to check for one
>I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and >newest [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > her > suddenly start doing this?!?!?! HELP!!! pah41071@yahoo.com - 25 Aug 2006 10:23 GMT > I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and newest > addition to our family is about 6 months old and has NEVER peed outside the > box, until now! none of my cats have ever had peeing problems, and all of a > sudden yester day i wake up to an almost perfectly clean cat box and my > littlelest one has peed on the floor near the wall next that is next to the > toilet, and she did it again today during the day while i was at work. Do you have one box for all four cats? Your older cats might not mind the sharing, but your new addition may not be too fond of it, now that she is getting mature. I would recommend adding at least one more box. Also, is your kitten spayed yet? If no, I would say she is marking her territory :-( Females can reproduce as early as five months, and she would be born at the time of year where she would go into one heat before autumn/winter hits. Get her spayed asap.
Good luck, Petra
Sandra Loosemore - 25 Aug 2006 15:31 GMT > I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and newest > addition to our family is about 6 months old and has NEVER peed outside the > box, until now! [...] I > clean out the cat box at least two times a day, usually once in the morning > and once in the evening, and have never had a problem! "The" cat box? You only have *one* box for *five* cats? Uh, sounds like you *do* have a problem! It's usually recommended that you have at least one box per cat. Some cats just don't like to share, or sometimes one cat starts playing intimidation games and preventing the other(s) from using the box. I also can't imagine how stinky a single box shared by 5 cats would get, even if you do scoop twice a day; your kitten may find it offensive even if you don't.
-Sandra
Gail - 25 Aug 2006 15:43 GMT For 5 cats you need at least 5 litter boxes. Gail
>> I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and >> newest [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -Sandra wazzumusicmajor - 25 Aug 2006 16:14 GMT all the cats have been fixed and each was obtained when they were no older than one month old. even the vet says that our cats are the picture of health and happieness. we have a large cat box and have NEVER had odor problems... when we have people over they don't even know that we have cats until one hops on their lap....so i highly doubt that an untidy kitty box is the problem. she has only done this twice in her life, and both times were this week, even more shocking she has not gone OUTSIDE the box since the last time and that was a few days ago.... could she be going through some kind of kitten rebellion? or could it have been a fluke thing because she seems fine now
>> I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and newest >> addition to our family is about 6 months old and has NEVER peed outside the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >-Sandra Sandra Loosemore - 25 Aug 2006 16:32 GMT > all the cats have been fixed and each was obtained when they were no older > than one month old. even the vet says that our cats are the picture of health > and happieness. we have a large cat box and have NEVER had odor problems... You keep denying you have a problem, but the fact that your kitten is peeing outside the box indicates that there *is* a problem now, even if you've never had one before. Do you want to do something about it or not? If so, the obvious first step is to put down a few more litter boxes and see if the inappropriate elimination stops.
-Sandra the cynic
Gail - 25 Aug 2006 16:55 GMT YES, YOU NEED MORE LITTER BOXES. CATS SOMETIMES DEVELOP PROBLEMS EVEN IF THEY DID NOT HAVE ONE IN THE PAST. Gail
>> all the cats have been fixed and each was obtained when they were no >> older [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -Sandra the cynic Magic Mood Jeep© - 25 Aug 2006 17:42 GMT > all the cats have been fixed and each was obtained when they were no > older than one month old. even the vet says that our cats are the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > rebellion? or could it have been a fluke thing because she seems fine > now Never had odor problems to *your* nose, maybe. To a cat's nose, which is almost as sensitive as a dog's, it must reek.
Please stop trying to defend your lack of action to solve the problem, and buy another litterbox, or four.
>>> I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest >>> and newest addition to our family is about 6 months old and has [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> -Sandra Kelly Simmons - 27 Aug 2006 04:43 GMT Sandra--
here is a suggestion....perhaps if you stop being soooooo rude and start acting like perhaps you have an ounce of kindness, we might be able to actually keep members on this site! i have 3 cats myself and have had absolutly no problems, the VET has never told me to get each of them their own box, and there are ways of going about keeping your house from ever smelling! obviously you are too busy telling others what you think they are doing wrong to realize that you are the picture of rude.
wazzumusicmajor--
i suggest, if it is still going on, call your vet, take the cat in, and go from there make your decision on what your vet says, not from what "Sandra" says!
Hope this helps, Kelly
>Never had odor problems to *your* nose, maybe. To a cat's nose, which is >almost as sensitive as a dog's, it must reek. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> >>> -Sandra cybercat - 27 Aug 2006 05:42 GMT > Sandra-- > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > smelling! obviously you are too busy telling others what you think they are > doing wrong to realize that you are the picture of rude. Hi Kelly. Rude is beside the point. Sandra's kindness is for the cats. It is downright nasty to expect five cats to use one box. If etiquette is your main concern, you have the wrong group. Try ASKING your vet how many boxes you should have, for starters. A larger point is, once a cat starts inappropriate elimination it is very hard to stop it. Much better to head it off by providing plenty of clean, appropriate places.
Sandra Loosemore - 27 Aug 2006 05:56 GMT > Sandra-- > > here is a suggestion....perhaps if you stop being soooooo rude and start > acting like perhaps you have an ounce of kindness, we might be able to > actually keep members on this site! Why are you addressing this remark to me? None of the text you quoted with your message that you apparently found so rude was even written by me. Do you go out of *your* way to insult other posters in this group?
-Sandra the cynic
Rhonda - 27 Aug 2006 16:00 GMT I saw that too, Sandra. The words quoted were someone else's post with your name attached.
It's not fair to be criticized for something you didn't even write.
Rhonda
> Why are you addressing this remark to me? None of the text you quoted > with your message that you apparently found so rude was even written by > me. Do you go out of *your* way to insult other posters in this group? > > -Sandra the cynic Matthew - 27 Aug 2006 09:50 GMT I will lay odds and guarantee a winner that you have never ever asked your vet how many boxes you should have for your cats you have 3 cats that means 4 to 5 boxes are needed. You have had absolutely no problems words spoke by so many before the sh@t hits the fan.
If Sandra was rude damn I call that quaint do you want me ,cybercat, Barry, Phil or L to show you the truth. I think I will leave it up to L or Cybercat to show you the truth. It will be interesting.
> Sandra-- > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>>> >>>> -Sandra ---MIKE--- - 27 Aug 2006 13:14 GMT Kelly, Sandra is correct. I have two cats and three litter boxes. The days that I work, when I get home all three boxes have been used. One box for five cats is outrageous.
---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') cybercat - 27 Aug 2006 15:52 GMT > If Sandra was rude damn I call that quaint do you want me ,cybercat, > Barry, Phil or L to show you the truth. I think I will leave it up to L or > Cybercat to show you the truth. It will be interesting. hahaha, good point.
We are such thugs, Matthew. :)
Just kidding. I prefer to think of us as being "direct."
Cat proactive!
Matthew - 27 Aug 2006 19:17 GMT >> If Sandra was rude damn I call that quaint do you want me ,cybercat, >> Barry, Phil or L to show you the truth. I think I will leave it up to L [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cat proactive! Naw you direct you NO you got to be kidding. ;)
I always call it as I see it. IMO If the truth hurts time for to go play in traffic blindfolded
clfr@adelphia.net - 26 Aug 2006 02:11 GMT > I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and newest > addition to our family is about 6 months old and has NEVER peed outside the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > is always food and water in there bowls. what is going on that could make her > suddenly start doing this?!?!?! HELP!!! If you have only one box for all five cats, it'd help to have at least one or two more boxes. Either all in the same area, or in different areas of the house.
But, this could also be a UTI problem - peeing outside the box is a classic sign of an infection. That should be ruled out - or in - right away. IOW, vet appt. time. You said that they're healthy, but peeing outside the box may be the only symptom of a UTI that'd be evident. If she does have a UTI, a round (or two) of an antibiotic will clear it up.
Cathy
cybercat - 26 Aug 2006 04:12 GMT > I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and newest > addition to our family is about 6 months old and has NEVER peed outside the > box, until now! none of my cats have ever had peeing problems, and all of a > sudden yester day i wake up to an almost perfectly clean cat box I am stunned at how good and long-suffering your cats are. With one box and five cats, I would have expected at least one of them to poop on your bed, in your shoes, etc. by now. That has got to be really hard on them. I can just see the young one now. "WHAT? THIS is the only bathroom? Like hell. I'll just MAKE a new one."
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SD - 27 Aug 2006 15:38 GMT I would separate that kitten into another room/rooms and then give its own liter box. If that works you solved your problem.
If not, yes definitely I would try going to the vet and insisting on a UTI test. My cat never peed outside the liter box but then she started going to the liter box very frequently. Then she peed on hubby's leg (tee hee) and that was her way of telling us to bring her to the vet. She indeed had a UTI.
>> I have five female cats ages 12, 11, 5, and 3 years, the youngest and > newest [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > MAKE > a new one."
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