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Loud, CAT very Noisy! will not be quiet is on my last nerve PLEASe HeLP!!!!

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group.20.jeffjames100@spamgourmet.com - 22 Aug 2006 10:28 GMT
I got a pure bread Burmese cat about 4 years ago from a breeder.   Its
name is Zorro.  Zorro has always been loved and taken care of.  He
lives with a tabby twice his size named Tiger.  Tiger is vocal but only
in a friendly chirping way he gets it from Zorro.  Zorro is vocal but
in a winning way and if you ignore him it changes to a LOUD yelling
way.  He is like a alarm clock turned up very loud telling you that you
need to give your cat what he wants.  It has been this way for at least
3 years.  Zorro is skittish, but we have never done anything but show
him love.  Both cats are neutered and declawed.  Im a 20 year old male,
my sister is 17, we both live with our parents.  My dad prefers dogs
but we are all cat lovers.  Everyone except my mom is fed up with
Zorro.  The cat is identical to this post
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/browse_frm/thread/e69d
6dafe3c6dbc2/1338eab1fd1decca?lnk=gst&q=loud&rnum=3#1338eab1fd1decca


Without the killing or being mean

But it effects every aspect of our home lives

Both cats get to go outside when they want spending a couple hours out
side then coming back in Zorro stays out a lot more than tiger and even
spends an entire day outside about once a month if the weather is good
because he goes off on some adventure or something.   but my mom gets
worried and goes searching for him.  When tiger wants out he sits
quietly by the door until somebody sees and opens it.  When Zorro wants
out he walks around yelling when someone acknowledges him he continues
to yell and walks to the door. he will not be quiet until he sees the
door being open.

What in the world do I do, I need sleep and peace please somebody help
me!!!!!
Matthew - 22 Aug 2006 10:48 GMT
Did you ever go get him checked at a  vet for hearing loss

IMO If there is no medical problems sounds  like a spoiled cat that has
gotten its way for a long time just like a whining crying child  when they
cry  a parent does what it wants instead of steeling themselves from
spoiling them

> I got a pure bread Burmese cat about 4 years ago from a breeder.   Its
> name is Zorro.  Zorro has always been loved and taken care of.  He
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> What in the world do I do, I need sleep and peace please somebody help
> me!!!!!
crickeh-re-hawd - 22 Aug 2006 22:30 GMT
> Did you ever go get him checked at a  vet for hearing loss
>
> IMO If there is no medical problems sounds  like a spoiled cat that has
> gotten its way for a long time just like a whining crying child  when they
> cry  a parent does what it wants instead of steeling themselves from
> spoiling them

heh, these humans crack me up
darth_breather@yahoo.com - 22 Aug 2006 11:56 GMT
Don't know about Burmese, but if their anthying like Siamese its a
breed trait. They are louyd and talkative and demand attention and love
people.

>.  Zorro is vocal but
> in a winning way and if you ignore him it changes to a LOUD yelling
> way.
m4816k - 22 Aug 2006 12:11 GMT
> Don't know about Burmese, but if their anthying like Siamese its a
> breed trait. They are louyd and talkative and demand attention and love
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>> in a winning way and if you ignore him it changes to a LOUD yelling
>> way.

Those breeds are closely related, Burmese being a mix of Siamese and...can't
remember what so I guess it's not strange to find a "chatty" Burmese.
Anyway, I really don't have any good advice so I won't take your time,
except, tell your mom not to go searching for him all the time cause cats
have a much better sense of orientation than humans or even dogs (meaning,
he's unlikely to get lost).
T - 23 Aug 2006 02:53 GMT
> Don't know about Burmese, but if their anthying like Siamese its a
> breed trait. They are louyd and talkative and demand attention and love
> people.

My tuxedo patterned DSH Randy is a vocal boy. He lets you know what he
wants and when he wants it.

The chocolate DSH Emily barely squeaks when she meows. But she's
insistent.
Niel Humphreys - 22 Aug 2006 12:08 GMT
> Both cats are declawed.
> but we are all cat lovers.

These two statements are mutually exclusive. You can not call yourselves cat
lovers if you are prepared to mutilate your kittes paws by ripping their
fingers out.

Poetic justice now is that it is quite likely that the mutilation of your
poor cat's claws has led to the behavioural problems which you are
experiencing. Serves you all right.
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MaryL - 22 Aug 2006 12:38 GMT
>> Both cats are declawed.
>> but we are all cat lovers.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> poor cat's claws has led to the behavioural problems which you are
> experiencing. Serves you all right.

Also, declawed cats absolutely should *not* be allowed outside.  They are
defenseless!

MaryL
Cheryl - 22 Aug 2006 23:49 GMT
> Also, declawed cats absolutely should *not* be allowed outside.
> They are defenseless!

That was my *first* thought, too. I can picture them putting the cat
out to "shut it up". Of course there are too many buzz words in this
post to make me think anything other than a torll.  Declawed.
Purebred (they wrote Pure Bread) and the poster is 20 and worried
about needing sleep. When I was 20 I could go for days without sleep.  
Can't do that now!  lol  To top it all off, the OP quoted a 6 year
old thread about a loud cat that was going to be killed if it didn't
stop.

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Deeanna - 24 Aug 2006 05:47 GMT
Hi Cheryll!
I didn't think much about this guy possibly being a troll until I read
your post.  Who in their right mind would declaw a purebred cat?  In
another post someone pointed out in this post that these people are cat
lovers but then declawed their cats; talk about conflicting statements.
That is as bad as my landlord's daughter saying she loves cats but
then keeps them in the barn to kill mice, making them potential food
for foxes.  She never, ever let them in the house, no matter how cold
it got, and it could get pretty cold in England in the winter.

I would never, ever declaw a cat.  It is so cruel and inhumane.
England does not allow it, thank goodness.  I wish we would take a cue
from them.  If people are worried about cats clawing up their
furniture, then it's real simple; don't get a cat.  Are dog's voice
boxes removed because of their constant barking?  No, so why should a
cat's claws be removed because of their natural instinct to claw?

Some people should not be blessed by the love of animals.
Deeanna

> > Also, declawed cats absolutely should *not* be allowed outside.
> > They are defenseless!
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> old thread about a loud cat that was going to be killed if it didn't
> stop.
cybercat - 24 Aug 2006 07:39 GMT
> Hi Cheryll!
> I didn't think much about this guy possibly being a troll until I read
> your post.  Who in their right mind would declaw a purebred cat?

wtf? Like there is a difference between artificially bred cats and normal
cats when it comes to clawing furniture?

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-L. - 24 Aug 2006 11:43 GMT
> > Hi Cheryll!
> > I didn't think much about this guy possibly being a troll until I read
> > your post.  Who in their right mind would declaw a purebred cat?
>
> wtf? Like there is a difference between artificially bred cats and normal
> cats when it comes to clawing furniture?

It has been my observation that a purebred is more likely to be
declawed because people who *buy* "purebred" (and I use that term
loosely) cats are more into the way they look rather than the way they
act.

FWIW....

-L.
cybercat - 24 Aug 2006 16:16 GMT
> > > Hi Cheryll!
> > > I didn't think much about this guy possibly being a troll until I read
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> loosely) cats are more into the way they look rather than the way they
> act.

That makes perfect sense, in a sickening kind of way. Eyuu. Ugh. The cat as
an ornament.
Deeanna - 25 Aug 2006 05:15 GMT
wtf? Like there is a difference between artificially bred cats and
normal
> > cats when it comes to clawing furniture?

L,
For the record, I do not and will NEVER believe in declawing cats,
purebreds or otherwise.  I am also strongly opposed to breeding animals
for money.  But, that's just me.

I don't know what FWIW means, but right back atcha.

> > > Hi Cheryll!
> > > I didn't think much about this guy possibly being a troll until I read
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>
> -L.
-L. - 25 Aug 2006 06:54 GMT
> wtf? Like there is a difference between artificially bred cats and
> normal
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>
> I don't know what FWIW means, but right back atcha.

For what it's worth...

And I agree WRT breeding and declawing.  Both should be banned.

-L.
cybercat - 26 Aug 2006 04:13 GMT
> wtf? Like there is a difference between artificially bred cats and
> normal
> > > cats when it comes to clawing furniture?
>
> L,
> For the record, I do not and will NEVER believe in declawing cats

L did not say that, I said that.

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MaryL - 24 Aug 2006 12:31 GMT
> Hi Cheryll!
> I didn't think much about this guy possibly being a troll until I read
> your post.  Who in their right mind would declaw a purebred cat?

Unfortunately, many purebred cats are declawed.

<snip>
>Are dog's voice
> boxes removed because of their constant barking?  No, so why should a
> cat's claws be removed because of their natural instinct to claw?

Although not as common, some dogs' "voice boxes" are removed.  Another
tragedy.

> Some people should not be blessed by the love of animals.
> Deeanna

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MaryL
PawsForThought - 23 Aug 2006 18:12 GMT
> > Both cats are declawed.
> > but we are all cat lovers.
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>
> Niel H

Except, unfortunately the cat pays the ultimate price, as most likely
these people will dump the cat :(
Niel Humphreys - 23 Aug 2006 18:56 GMT
>> > Both cats are declawed.
>> > but we are all cat lovers.
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> Except, unfortunately the cat pays the ultimate price, as most likely
> these people will dump the cat :(

Like it seems they dumped this newsgroup as soon as the criticism started to
fly about their declawing of their cats.
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cybercat - 23 Aug 2006 20:11 GMT
> >> > Both cats are declawed.
> >> > but we are all cat lovers.
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> Like it seems they dumped this newsgroup as soon as the criticism started to
> fly about their declawing of their cats.

Which is a pretty good sign that, unfortunately, the OP was not a "troll"
but
was indeed a real person with real cats. Ugh.

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PawsForThought - 23 Aug 2006 18:08 GMT
> I got a pure bread Burmese cat about 4 years ago from a breeder.

Since you bought your cat from a breeder, I would assume you researched
this breed very thoroughly first.  This breed is known to be quite
loud.
crickeh-re-hawd - 24 Aug 2006 03:32 GMT
> Since you bought your cat from a breeder, I would assume you researched
> this breed very thoroughly first.  This breed is known to be quite
> loud.

lmao

"help me help me, i bought a loud cat and he won't shut up"

aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
PawsForThought - 23 Aug 2006 18:11 GMT
Both cats are neutered and declawed.

Are you aware what declawing is?  In case you don't, it's 10 separate
very very painful amputations of the last digit on each toe, and
extremely cruel :(
I suggest you do some research, www.declaw.com, for example.
MaryL - 23 Aug 2006 18:17 GMT
> Both cats are neutered and declawed.
>
> Are you aware what declawing is?  In case you don't, it's 10 separate
> very very painful amputations of the last digit on each toe, and
> extremely cruel :(
> I suggest you do some research, www.declaw.com, for example.

Also, check this site for some very graphic information about declawing:
http://www.stopdeclaw.com
MaryL
group.20.jeffjames100@spamgourmet.com - 26 Aug 2006 11:07 GMT
WELL UPDATE first i dont know what a troll is but I do love cats  I had
no choice in the matter of declawing but I agree I would never declaw a
cat if I had a chice in the matter I didnt have a choice inthe breed
althou i did like burmese cats Zorro is my second  if you subtract the
age of the cat from my age you can see I was to young to be able to
afford a pure bread cat or declawing  I had no job at the time..  and
we are definantly keeping this cat it is just carzy how noisy he is i
just wanted to see if there was somthing to do since we have ner really
gotten outside opinions on the matter and I get lots of good info from
the web

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