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How to Distinguish Strays from Ferals

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violetvache@yahoo.com - 30 Jul 2006 12:05 GMT
Hello.  Hope you all can just give me some advice.  I'm the mother of a
former stray someone here was nice enough to call a "grand old cat."
She definitely is.

But she is old.  We live in the mountains, and since she's a former
feral, just TRY to keep this cat in during the summers.  No way.
(She's at least 13 and probably more like 15.)

Well, since the spring, two specific cats--gorgeous--one white with tan
ears, one unusual black-and-white (like a cow!)--have been appearing
from time to time on our land.  At first I thought they were strays,
and since I'm older, with a handicapped old family member, I set a trap
from our non-kill shelter, 'cause I don't want any strays to suffer.

Now that it's real hot, these two cats (I notice a pure black kitten
with them, but only this one kitten) are actually coming into our house
and fighting with my old buddy.  This morning I almost had a heart
attack, 'cause it seemed as if they were going to bring the fight up
into our actual house.

If these poor animals are strays or ferals, I have to catch them before
the weather starts getting cold.  We have fantastic non-kill cat
shelters where I live (and I support them).  They are very thin but do
not look neglected at all.  In fact, I saw them both on the porch of a
very wealthy neighbor's porch accidentally, back in May.  I concluded
from this that they are just not "collared."  Neither is my cat (who is
microchipped).

So what do I do?  I can't have my old buddy living in fear of them, and
maybe they just want to play, but she is old and obviously doesn't take
kindly to them.  I do not know the name of the neighbor whose porch I
saw them on, or even these people's names.  (We live in one of those
woodsy developments where people guard their privacy, and I *mean* it.)
I suppose I could mail a letter to their Post Office box to see if the
cats are theirs.

Anyway, if cats 1) look good (but thin), 2) have not acted
aggressively, but 3) roam a neighborhood so much that other people
notice them, how do you tell if they are strays?  If these neighbors
ignore my letter (believe me, I have called lots of people in the
neighborhood trying to find out if they're homeless), should I catch
them and just hope they're chipped?

I'm at a loss and want to do the right thing, and unfortunately, the
right thing just can't include taking them in.  Thank you and God Bless.
kraut - 30 Jul 2006 12:49 GMT
I sounds like you made a good faith effort to find their owners if
they have one.

I would get them and take them to the shelter then possibly send a
letter to the neighbors that they are there.  That way if they belong
to one of them they can retrieve them and if not at least they can be
fixed and found homes.

Thank you for caring.

My furbabies

http://members.aol.com/larrystark/

>Hello.  Hope you all can just give me some advice.  I'm the mother of a
>former stray someone here was nice enough to call a "grand old cat."
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>I'm at a loss and want to do the right thing, and unfortunately, the
>right thing just can't include taking them in.  Thank you and God Bless.
katt - 31 Jul 2006 11:07 GMT
you might even try making a poster if all your boxes are together like
in my moms area and tapeing them to the boxes . if you can take a pic
even better , give it a couple days as not everyone checks their mail
daily and then do all that is left to do , and just maybe someone will
take them in cause they sound like they could use a good home , one
where they might not have to be thin :) good luck to you
violetvache@yahoo.com - 31 Jul 2006 13:06 GMT
> you might even try making a poster if all your boxes are together like
> in my moms area and tapeing them to the boxes . if you can take a pic
> even better , give it a couple days as not everyone checks their mail
> daily and then do all that is left to do , and just maybe someone will
> take them in cause they sound like they could use a good home , one
> where they might not have to be thin :) good luck to you

Thanks, Katt (and Kraut).  Sadly, through constant phone calls after I
made the original post (using the county tax database to look up the
names and addresses of homeowners on the road where I saw the cats), I
learned that these two cats are indeed strays.

The homeowner whose porch I saw them on said they've been around for
five or six years (!).  God in heaven, we live in the mountains.  How
she could have let them live in a box on her property (cause she has
her own cats and puts their water and food out for them, hence, the
strays) without taking care to find them homes is beyond me.

I haven't slept all night, first cause they fought viciously with my
old girl again last night, and second, cause this is all too
heartbreaking for me.  I ordered a special Havahart cage for way more
money than I can really afford, in order to put food and water in if
and when I can trap the poor things.

Will you guys please say some prayers for me, my old girl, and these
poor strays?  I've never trapped ferals before and am going to call my
friend, who runs a shelter for ferals, to see if I can get some
emotional if not physical support.

Thanks again.
katt - 31 Jul 2006 13:17 GMT
> Thanks, Katt (and Kraut).  Sadly, through constant phone calls after I
> made the original post (using the county tax database to look up the
> names and addresses of homeowners on the road where I saw the cats), I
> learned that these two cats are indeed strays.

awwwwww hun thats a sin , im sooo sry that it indeed is someone with a
huge heart like you that has to be the one to show enough compassion to
help have these cats moved to somewhere they can relax in life , 5 or 6
yrs is one long time to have them living in the mountains , but im sure
someone like your friend will be able to know how to help them go
through this change they are gonna have one heck of a time cause
obviously this is the only life they know , do you think there could be
a farm  near that would take them for mousers , i know alot of good
farmers here that feed the cats wonderully with real cat food , and
have them sleep in the shelter of a barn , these must be tough cats to
survive this long if your winters are anything like ours good luck hun
n please keep us posted my thoughts n heart go out to you all right
now,
Ann - 31 Jul 2006 15:27 GMT
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:06:20 -0700, violetvache wrote:

>> you might even try making a poster if all your boxes are together like
>> in my moms area and tapeing them to the boxes . if you can take a pic
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> her own cats and puts their water and food out for them, hence, the
> strays) without taking care to find them homes is beyond me.

Perhaps because it's not easy to find homes for feral cats.  And, since
they are male, they won't be having kittens and their chance of survival
is better.  Most public shelters don't have the facilities or funding to
keep even well socialized kittens for long.  There are a few that will
offer ferals as barn cats, but usually cats that can't be handled are put
down.  Another consideration is that if the pair of adult cats are entire
males, unless they're confined, they would be very likely to head "home"
from a new location.  The kitten is a different situation.  It's probably
lost or abandoned and could be socialized with some effort.

> I haven't slept all night, first cause they fought viciously with my
> old girl again last night, and second, cause this is all too
> heartbreaking for me.  I ordered a special Havahart cage for way more
> money than I can really afford, in order to put food and water in if
> and when I can trap the poor things.

Imo, your first obligation is to protect your cat and - whether she likes
it or not - that means not giving her free access to the outside (or
other cats free access to your house) ... at least for a while.  Since the
ferals have been around for 5-6 years and this is the first you've seen
them, there is a good chance they will lose interest once they don't have
access to your house and cat.  

> Will you guys please say some prayers for me, my old girl, and these
> poor strays?  I've never trapped ferals before and am going to call my
> friend, who runs a shelter for ferals, to see if I can get some
> emotional if not physical support.

Do you have it arranged with your friend that she will take and care for
the cats if you trap them?  I ask because often no-kill shelters do have
waiting lists.

> Thanks again.

I hope this turns out well for all involved, feline and human.
Unfortunately, sometimes what's the "right thing" isn't written in black
and white.

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