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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2006Please help our listless and vomiting cat.
Hello, Our cat Luxor is two and a half years old, and is normally a very healthy and active (indoor) cat. (He's a Norweigan Forest mix, if that helps at all.) Seven days ago, he had a bout of of very foul-smelling diarrhea, and then for the past week, he has been throwing up a brown liquid. Most troubling, he is not eating at all. He is rapidly becoming bony, and is very depressed and listless - just curling up in a corner, not moving when food is put out, or when my daughter moves toward him (normally he would leap out of the way!). He is drinking a little, though, thankfully. And I'm not sure if this is significant, but he has stopped hard-pooping. What we are suspecting is that he ate some styrofoam padding we had in the basement recently...we see big chunks of it missing; however, it's not turning up in the vomit or his discharge. (?) Perhaps Luxor is not the brightest kitty, but we really love him, and wonder what we can do to get him to eat again, and to feel happy again. Thank you for any feedback. We'd like to hear if there's anything we can do at home, because we can't afford vet bills right now. Please respond A.S.A.P.! Helen Reply » Hello, Our cat Luxor is two and a half years old, and is normally a very healthy and active (indoor) cat. (He's a Norweigan Forest mix, if that helps at all.) Seven days ago, he had a bout of of very foul-smelling diarrhea What the f.ck is wrong with you? Bite the bullet, skimp on the fast food and take your cat to the vet. a.shole. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > a.shole. I'm italian and I had always had cats at home. I put there out of my house and they always stay in wealth but I give to them not food of the supermarket but the rest of the food of our people > I'm italian and I had always had cats at home. I put there out of my > house and they always stay in wealth but I give to them not food of the > supermarket but the rest of the food of our people Your cats eat Italian food? Like Garfield eating lasagna? That's nice. Guess what? Cats need taurine which is in cat food specially formulated for *cats.* Eating food meant for humans is not fulfilling their dietary needs. You're not doing them any favor feeding them mostaccioli or whatever. Candace > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > a.shole. I can't see the original posts that this fuckwad posted on either of the 2 threads she started...at least not through Google. She must be trying to delete them. But this is for her, the f.cking moron OP: Your cat probably has a blockage and he will definitely die without veterinary help. He is not going to pass styrofoam on his own. It is your fault the cat ate styrofoam and now you are denying him medical care. He is suffering greatly. Why don't fuckwads like you understand that animals feel pain exactly the way humans do? Would you like to be barfing up brown liquid? That brown liquid is probably liquid poo, stupid, since he can't pass it normally. Would you like to have regurgitated poo coming up your throat? I sincerely hope you do someday. Take the cat to a humane society, explain what a moron and bad pet owner you are, and they will euthanize him and put him out of his misery for nothing so that you don't have to spend any money. Then take your daughter out for a nice lunch on the money you saved and explain to her what a f.cking cretin you are and how you were responsible for the life of an innocent animal and let him eat styrofoam and get blocked and did f.cking NOTHING for him. I'm sure she will respect you for it and grow up to be just like you. Either get the cat to a vet right away and charge the vet bill or steal some money to pay for it or prostitute your ugly self or something!!!!! Otherwise, get him to the humane society or a kind vet who will put him out of his misery for nothing. You are a despicable piece of human waste. I hope something real icky happens to you. Candace > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > him out of his misery for nothing. You are a despicable piece of human > waste. I hope something real icky happens to you. I love you, Candace. Well you don't have to do anything. Give it a few more days and you'll just have to dig the hole in the backyard to bury him. Get the cat to the vet NOW! By waiting you are making matters worse. He's likely to develop hepatic lipidosis from not eating on top of whatever the initial problem was. If it was your child with these symptoms you wouldn't be posting on a newsgroup asking if he needed to go to the doctor now would you? Hello, Our cat Luxor is two and a half years old, and is normally a very healthy and active (indoor) cat. (He's a Norweigan Forest mix, if that helps at all.) Seven days ago, he had a bout of of very foul-smelling diarrhea, and then for the past week, he has been throwing up a brown liquid. Most troubling, he is not eating at all. He is rapidly becoming bony, and is very depressed and listless - just curling up in a corner, not moving when food is put out, or when my daughter moves toward him (normally he would leap out of the way!). He is drinking a little, though, thankfully. And I'm not sure if this is significant, but he has stopped hard-pooping. What we are suspecting is that he ate some styrofoam padding we had in the basement recently...we see big chunks of it missing; however, it's not turning up in the vomit or his discharge. (?) Perhaps Luxor is not the brightest kitty, but we really love him, and wonder what we can do to get him to eat again, and to feel happy again. Thank you for any feedback. We'd like to hear if there's anything we can do at home, because we can't afford vet bills right now. Please respond A.S.A.P.! Helen Reply » >Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Reply » Sell your computer instead of asking stupid questions on it, and then use the money to pay the vet. -mhd Holy Christ, you people are not doing animals any favours by being abusive and spewing vitriol at this poster. Some of you at least offered possible causes for this cat's sickness, and other just launched personal attacks and insults without knowing the whole story. It's understandable you want to encourage the person to take the cat to the vet. You can say so firmly and with conviction WITHOUT resorting to ugly name calling. Save that for someone who can't even be arsed to ASK FOR HELP ON A CAT FORUM, instead just kicking the poor thing til it dies. You people are so judgemental of people and their problems, you think that it's okay to be cruel (and you are being excessively cruel) to someone who (within a quick period of time) has sought advice in the right place. Perhaps after any home remedies failed, she or he would have taken the cat to the emergency clinic, or given him away. What do you people do when your vet is away or sick, or you live very far from one? Just sit there and not seek any alternative help? Come on, don't make yourselves ugly and make animal rights activists look like some foul-mouthed bastards. > >Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > -mhd > Holy Christ, you people are not doing animals any favours by being > abusive and spewing [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Come on, don't make yourselves ugly and make animal rights activists > look like some foul-mouthed bastards. Oh, please, "within a quick period of time"? The cat has been sick for over a week, barfing up sh.t, laying in the corner, listless, and she knows that he probably ate styrofoam? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that styrofoam is not digestible. She even assumes that. The syrofoam is sitting in the cat's intestines, blocking it, it can't eat or crap, and something will probably rupture soon if it hasn't already. The first couple of posters did say "Take the cat to the vet" without any vitriol. She already is whining that she has no money to take the cat to the vet even though she assumes he ate styrofoam. What home remedy is there for that? Her original posts have disappeared off google so she must have deleted them knowing what a dolt she sounded like. There is really nothing to say except "TAKE THE CAT TO A VET." There is no home remedy for a blockage casued by styrofoam. She made it clear that going to the vet probably was not an option. Why should we be kind and compassionate to her? Whether we say it with love and compassion, "Sweet little moronic darling, your cat is dying" or say it with vitriol, the outcome will be the same. This is not just a little case of ear mites or something fairly innocuous, it's life-threatening. If she heeded the first posters' advice to take the cat to a vet, then she probably never even saw the rest of them. But the poor cat is probably going to die very soon. Seriously, what sort of person watches their cat barf up sh.t for days and can only post to a newsgroup that they have no $$ to take the cat to a vet? That is one of the almost universal feelings on this ng: if you have a pet, you need to be able to provide for it, at least in an emergency, if only to be able to take it somewhere to be euthanized. I don't feel at all bad for treating her like the piece of sh.t she is. I feel very sorry for the poor cat, though. What a terrible way to die. Candace > > >Hello, > > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > > -mhd Oh come on. How many days does a cat have to throw up 'brown liquid' before someone can use their own common sense and get the cat seen by a professional. When a cat is in that shape I wouldn't want someone trying home remedies. It's way too late for that after farting around for a week. a simple Google for 'financial assistance veterinary bills' came up with the following and a number of other web sites that could be helpful. http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/what_you_can_do_if_you_are_having_trouble_affo rding_veterinary_care.html W Holy Christ, you people are not doing animals any favours by being abusive and spewing vitriol at this poster. Some of you at least offered possible causes for this cat's sickness, and other just launched personal attacks and insults without knowing the whole story. It's understandable you want to encourage the person to take the cat to the vet. You can say so firmly and with conviction WITHOUT resorting to ugly name calling. Save that for someone who can't even be arsed to ASK FOR HELP ON A CAT FORUM, instead just kicking the poor thing til it dies. You people are so judgemental of people and their problems, you think that it's okay to be cruel (and you are being excessively cruel) to someone who (within a quick period of time) has sought advice in the right place. Perhaps after any home remedies failed, she or he would have taken the cat to the emergency clinic, or given him away. What do you people do when your vet is away or sick, or you live very far from one? Just sit there and not seek any alternative help? Come on, don't make yourselves ugly and make animal rights activists look like some foul-mouthed bastards. hamandcheese@betweentheknees.com wrote: > "Helen" <fuschiatrevi@yahoo.ca> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > -mhd > a simple Google for 'financial assistance veterinary bills' came up with the > following and a number of other web sites that could be helpful. > http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/what_you_can_do_if_you_are_having_trouble_affo rding_veterinary_care.html I also think it's very bad that someone would neglect to get veterinary care for a cat who is obviously very sick. But rather than spewing a bunch of profanity at the OP -- which is unlikely to do anything for the poor cat! -- wouldn't it be better to point out sites like this that contain practical advice? It seems like issues involving sick cats and people who don't have a lot of money to pay for veterinary care come up quite often on this newsgroup. Telling the poster that they should have thought about this before they got a pet doesn't help the suffering cat. Calling the poster names, accusing them of being an animal abuser, or resorting to profanity doesn't help the suffering cat. Instead, can't we make more of an effort to respond to questions like this more like: "Your cat is obviously very sick and urgently needs professional medical care. Random people on the net *cannot* help him/her get better, and if you do nothing, your cat will suffer needlessly and possibly die. Please call your vet or local animal shelter ASAP and explain that your cat is very sick but that you don't have much money. Most vets are very sensitive to these issues and will try to work with you to do what's best for the cat within your budget constraints." In other words, try working from the assumption that people who post such questions are simply clueless, rather than evil. I think the fact that they are asking for help in the first place does show that they really *are* concerned for their cat's welfare and are not abusing animals for the fun of it. And, as I said, responding as if such questions are asked in good faith might produce some results, while merely flaming at the poster accomplishes nothing. -Sandra the cynic > Telling the poster that they should have thought about this before they > got a pet doesn't help the suffering cat. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > -Sandra the cynic Hmmm, I dunno. This poster seemd excessively stupid or, hopefully, a troll (although I doubt it). But where are her original posts? She must be removing them for whatever reason. Maybe she was bombarded with emails (I don't personally email people I don't know so it wasn't by me). Maybe she realized how stupid she sounded. Maybe the cat died. I don't think either vitriolic or "constructive" posts will help, at this point. I can see doing what you said in some circumstances but, sheesh, *anyone* in their right mind knows that a cat barfing up brown liquid and laying in a corner for a week listless is not going to be helped by some home remedy. If she needs a newsgroup to tell her the cat needs a vet, she's pretty far gone. Really, I hope she saw your post and looked at the website and found some help but I'm not too hopeful. Me cussing her out is not going to stop her from taking the cat to a vet; I don't think she will regardless. Candace "Sandra Loosemore" <sandra@frogsonice.com> No offense since you just started posting here Do a Google of how many of these people come here every day post most are trolls, some are truly naive some do it to get a rise but none have common sense. Any person that has an IQ of young child knows being sick is being sick This OP would be in jail if it was child and OP would have called 911 never worrying about the cost till after. A person that actually cared about there animal would called vets to find out what is wrong and if cost was a factor would have asked there are very little vets that won't work out something with people The first responders told her take the vet What a minute why am I explaining myself Google and see the problems the group faces almost everyday look below a post "my cat suddenly paralyzed" > "Sandra Loosemore" <sandra@frogsonice.com> > > No offense since you just started posting here No offense, but you might do a google search before you jump to the conclusion that I "just started posting here". E.g., I was posting here about my now-senior-citizen cat Slinky as far back as 1991. -Sandra the old-timer >> "Sandra Loosemore" <sandra@frogsonice.com> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -Sandra the old-timer The conclusion was thru your email I will apologize if you used to post here but since you have not posted in the last year the rest of the post still pertains > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Reply » You are probably not reading this, and with good reason. RPCH is a good place to ask questions and find information on cat health and behavior, if you are selective. It is very, very easy to figure out who's likely to provide useful information and who's not. Just ignore the "not" category. Most news readers provide filtering tools, but I personally get more pleaseure from knowing who I am ignoring, and using the "plonk" feature. Another good place to post your question would be alt.med.veterinary, as there are some real vets who occasionally respond. Alt.med.veterinary has only one kook to filter out, but even he has usable advice on animal behavior. You can do a google search for "free veterinary advice". I found one site that charges a very low fee based on how useful you feel their answer is. I haven't tried it. Without veterinary care, your cat is going to die. From your description, he probably has a blocked bowel and saving him will require about $1000+ worth of surgery. I paid $1000 at an emergency clinic to try and save my cat. They made me pay in advance. He died. I feel bad. I feel bad that I couldn't spend $30,000 to try and save him, I feel bad that I didn't get my money's worth out of the $1000 I did spend, but mainly I feel bad because I miss my cat. If I hadn't spent the $1000, I probably wouldn't feel any worse. The only desperate measure that I would try if I were in your situation (which may help and probably won't hurt) would be to massage or palpate his abdomen, try and feel for the blockage and help it along. While my cat was dying, I was able to calm him and ease his pain just by holding him in my lap and stroking him. Be with your cat, hold him, tell him you love him. Hope this helps.  SignatureJohn Kimmel guyxnoir@spirextech.com remove x Laughter. Tears. Curtain. Hello John, I appreciate the time you took to steer me in the right direction. I was quite upset when I read the reactions of the Google group members toward me - as if I intended to let Luxor suffer and was evil for admitting we couldn't afford a veterinarian. Fortunately, Luxor is much better today - he is eating now, and is lessed stressed out. His tail was up for the first time this week! The worst of his indigestion problems seems to be over. I'm sorry to hear about your cat. I'm sure he knew how much you cared for him. The advice to comfort Luxor was very good...his spirits were higher after we showered him with plenty of affection and quiet reassurance. All the best to you. You're a wonderful human being! > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > Laughter. Tears. Curtain. > Hello John, > > I appreciate the time you took to steer me in the > right direction. I was quite upset when I read the > reactions of the Google group members toward me - as > if I intended to let Luxor suffer You *were* letting him suffer - your post proved so. Letting an animal suffer is neglect, and is actionable by law. and was evil for > admitting we couldn't afford a veterinarian. You're just ignorant, apparently. If you can't afford vet care for your cat you really shouldn't have one. > Fortunately, Luxor is much better today - he is eating > now, and is lessed stressed out. His tail was up for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > spirits were higher after we showered him with plenty > of affection and quiet reassurance. Next time you may not be so lucky. -L. "Helen" <fuschiatrevi@yahoo.ca> wrote in message I smell a troll Come again, Matthew? Come again? > "Helen" <fuschiatrevi@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > > I smell a troll Did you take your cat to a vet yet till then don't even bother responding > Come again, Matthew? Come again? > >> "Helen" <fuschiatrevi@yahoo.ca> wrote in message >> >> I smell a troll Get out of my thread, you ignoramus. I WAS RESPONDING TO JOHN, LETTING HIM KNOW MY CAT LUXOR IS JUST FINE NOW. Screw you and your judgements. > Did you take your cat to a vet yet till then don't even bother responding > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> > >> I smell a troll Ohh feel better now Oh your true self revealed Your b@llshit has been brought out You used my info to respond you stupid animal abuser Welcome to the world of the internet Animal abusers are the targets of animal lovers so we will never leave the likes of you alone You have been targeted ANIMAL ABUSER and admitted it for all the world to see that you are an animal abuser Don't like the truth than STFU ANIMAL ABUSER Time for some coffee and go read the comics need a good laugh instead of seeing your animal abusing post > Get out of my thread, you ignoramus. I WAS RESPONDING TO JOHN, LETTING > HIM KNOW MY CAT LUXOR IS JUST FINE NOW. > > Screw you and your judgements. No thank you I would not want to be hurt and not have you call someone to help me If I need medical treatment Grew up Better be careful with your accusations. Slandering someone can get your a.s sued. You don't know the whole story of my cat's behaviour or health...you only know what I posted, and much of it was dramatized in order to get an immediate response from the forum. My cat was stressed out because he was constipated. He was less active than usual. That was the extent of his illness. And his efficient little body was getting rid of whatever didn't agree with him. His eyes and nose had no discharge, nor was he wasn't crying or meowing in pain. He didn't feel like eating for a few days, and now he is. Again, get off my thread and stop with your spitting. You make me sick. > Ohh feel better now > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Grew up SUE ME ANIMAL ABUSER!!!!!!!!! YOU MAKE ME SICK WITH YOUR STUPIDITY OF DEFENDING YOUR ANIMAL ABUSER WAYS!!!!!!!!!! SUE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If that was your child you would be in jail think about that ANIMAL ABUSER! SUE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No slander your own words your are an animal abuser the world knows it now SUE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You want me to get off your thread grew up ANIMAL ABUSER seek professional help welcome to the wonder world of the internet. You think I am bad wait till the rest of the group wakes up and see your ANIMAL ABUSER b@llshit. Since it is morning why don't your get off your lazy a.s go to labor finders or daily work daily pay and go to work and put the money towards a vet Like the real people in the world time to go to work > Better be careful with your accusations. Slandering someone can get > your a.s sued. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >> Grew up I should have known that nobody could be as stupid as you appeared in the original post and still live. Guess we've got ourselves a troll. > Better be careful with your accusations. Slandering someone can get > your a.s sued. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >> Grew up Yeappie troll bashing 101 they reveal how they really are when confronted with the truth. If there is a cat for real I truly feel sorry for it with a low life like that for an owner Poor Kitty >I should have known that nobody could be as stupid as you appeared in the >original post and still live. Guess we've got ourselves a troll. [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>> >>> Grew up > Better be careful with your accusations. Slandering someone can get > your a.s sued. It's libel in print, idiot. > You don't know the whole story of my cat's behaviour or health...you > only know what I posted, and much of it was dramatized in order to get [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Again, get off my thread and stop with your spitting. You make me > sick. Well, it's good to know that one positive thing has come of this. Now if I could just figure out where in Toronto you are, I could alert animal cruelty. > Get out of my thread, you ignoramus. I WAS RESPONDING TO JOHN, LETTING > HIM KNOW MY CAT LUXOR IS JUST FINE NOW. > > Screw you and your judgements. There's just nothing quite like someone who is undeniably wrong and cruel on top of it doing the self righteous thing. > > Get out of my thread, you ignoramus. I WAS RESPONDING TO JOHN, LETTING > > HIM KNOW MY CAT LUXOR IS JUST FINE NOW. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > There's just nothing quite like someone who is undeniably wrong and cruel on > top of it doing the self righteous thing. Don't forget "liar" - she admits she embellished the story for impact. What an a.s. -L. > > > Get out of my thread, you ignoramus. I WAS RESPONDING TO JOHN, LETTING > > > HIM KNOW MY CAT LUXOR IS JUST FINE NOW. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Don't forget "liar" - she admits she embellished the story for impact. > What an a.s. The real question is, what is she lying about? Is she lying about lying? And there you have the problem with taking anything liars say seriously. It's a philosophical dilemma. > Come again, Matthew? Come again? I don't think he is interested. > > "Helen" <fuschiatrevi@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > > > > I smell a troll > "Helen" <fuschiatrevi@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > > I smell a troll Let's just say "a.shole," shall we? >> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > Hope this helps. So your advise is to hold the cat why it dies slowly? > >> Hello, > >> [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > So your advise is to hold the cat why it dies slowly? Can you even believe this a.s?? And come on, how much could the vet visit cost? We know the bitch has a computer, she could have hocked that to save her cat suffering. > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > You are probably not reading this, and with good reason. So you condone the fact that she allowed her cat to suffer for over a week? I remember you now. I don't need a killfile, I have an internal killfile. It is called self control. You are an a.s. |
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