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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2006cat suddenly paralyzed
Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was twitching/convulsing. We live in san antonio and It was a pretty hot day out, so my mom figured it was just heat stroke (alothough it had never happend befor and there's always plenny of water for her) and we got her to drink water till she wouldnt drink anymore. It's now been more then 12 hours and she's seems almost comletely paralized from the neck down.She doesnt seem to be in any kind of pain, but im sure she must have gotten hold of somesort of toxin, beacause my girlfriend saw her earlyer that morning and said she wasn't walking strait. We haven't taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? I Forgot to add. She has pooped once and peed atleast 2 times, she can kinda move her front legs and tail, but nothing ellse below her neck. WE ARE NOT VETS OUT HERE YOU CAT NEEDS EMERGENCY CARE NOW FIND THE MONEY AND STOP WASTING TIME HERE IN THE NEWSGROUP AND TAKE HER TO THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL TODAY WE ARE NOT VETS OUT HERE YOU CAT NEEDS EMERGENCY CARE NOW FIND THE MONEY AND STOP WASTING TIME HERE IN THE NEWSGROUPS AND TAKE HER TO THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL TODAY >I Forgot to add. She has pooped once and peed atleast 2 times, she can > kinda move her front legs and tail, but nothing ellse below her neck. Sorry, I did not realize the extent of your cat's paralysis. However, I do understand when the cash is not at hand. I went online and found this: PaLC: Emergency InformationPets 911 is a free National Public Referral Service, searchable by zip code (including animal ... If you need emergency animal care or control services, ... www.palc.org/emergencyinfo.html Maybe they can work with you. God bless you. Gail Lynn Batton > I Forgot to add. She has pooped once and peed atleast 2 times, she can > kinda move her front legs and tail, but nothing ellse below her neck. She MUST see a vet. Your cat is in PAIN and no one here can diagnose what is wrong. Please call the vet to see if you can make payments or beg or borrow the money. Let us know..... Gail > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does > any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? Too many possibilities exist here--she could have eaten a poison; has a failing internal organ; had a stroke; other. I do think there can be no doubt that your cat is suffering. Please take her to a vet and at least get a diagnosis. If treatment is too expensive, do the humane thing and euthanize her to put her out of her agony. Watching your cat die in pain is likely to stay with you for a very long time. > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat > sitting by our [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what > we can do? P.S. From a presentation at a vet's office recently, I learned that cats and other animals disguise their pain for as long as possible by instinct, because to appear to be in distress puts them at the risk of predators. If your cat is now showing pain or disability, you should understand it is severe. Your cat really needs to be seen NOW! This is a true emergency. No one can diagnose this on a news group. I know it can be expensive but you owe it to your cat. Even if she may not seem to be in pain, she's got to be in distress. Imagine how you'd feel if you couldn't move. Please do the right thing and take her to see the vet. By the way, just heat stroke can and will kill. Early treatment is vital. Bonnie > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does > any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? Hi, sorry about your cat. It is scarey when we have a pet that is not acting like themselves and we can't just up and spend $200 at a vet. Popsie reacts to the heat even in airconditioning here in Florida. If it gets boiling hot outside the air doesn't quite cut it inside and sometimes she looks dazed and acts "stupid" like she wants to talk to us or do something but can't. She may lay down and sleep for hours and hours. THEN, like a lightbulb going off in our heads, particularly if we are sweating we take her to the bathtub and soak her down real good and just blot her dry. BINGO, next thing we know, she's back to Popsie. We DO realize she COULD have a seizure disorder, or diabetes or whatever, but for now, if a quick rinse-off snaps her back - we are happy. Sometimes she has been utterly LIMP and OUT OF IT - and this works. It's a suggestion??? Hope and pray your baby is doing great next report. God bless you. Gail Lynn > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does > any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? To add to my own post before anyone else does, IF I thought Popsie's condition was life threatening or she did NOT "snap out of it" - we would seek Adams Veterinary Clinic fast or go right up the road to the Emergency Animal Hospital. However, it takes lots of hard cold cash that at other times of my life I was not so blessed to be able to have for my pets and they suffered. I was a hard working Mom with children and it was all I could do to feed my kids. All kids need a pet, but, with a pet comes a LOT of responsibility, now that I am older, I am finally finding out. Popsie was spayed when the time was right and shots and wormed and regular visits and flea/tick control on time. SO, do ONLY people who can "afford" to "keep up" a pet have a pet? If so, the very people who NEED pets emotionally probably would never have one - correct? I live in a retirement home. We who have a pet MUST do all of the above and the pet must stay inside only. HOWEVER, strays come onto the campus property and have babies and grandbabies and great... and and and. SO, periodically, the cat-catcher does his thing. Miami is over-run with feral or stray or alley cats. Keeps mice down. (more delicate to say mice than rats). Hope all are well today. > Hi, sorry about your cat. It is scarey when we have a pet that is not > acting like themselves and we can't just up and spend $200 at a vet. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does > > any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? > To add to my own post before anyone else does, IF I > thought Popsie's [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > do ONLY people who can "afford" to "keep up" a pet have a > pet? I can appreciate the double quotation marks around "afford" and "keep up." They are so relative. For my part, I am resigned that I cannot save every cat or dog (healthy or not) in my area. I won't take more than two cats, because the vet bills do mount up, and I am selfish enough that I won't spend all my money saving cats. Also, I think that if I did fill my house with rescue cats. In my area, there would always be more. I also won't spend all my money saving, arguably far more importantly, children dying in Africa. I volunteer a number of hours each week for an animal rescue organization. It's nothing, in the greater scheme of things. The organization seems to be ramping up its efforts but I suspect it's a case of demand (for foster homes for cats and dogs) always exceeding supply. There are just too many people who don't spay/neuter their animals in my area. I think many animal rescue volunteers become saturated, and one by one (with some exceptions) attrit. And nothing or very little really changes. Then--to me--there is the decision about how much to spend on a very sick animal's care. I often think how many young health animals this money could save. Is it better to have 100 cats and dogs enjoy life to the age of seven, or have 20 cats and dogs enjoy life to the age of 14? That sort of calculation that I think honest people will admit is out there and of course is brutal. > If so, > the very people who NEED pets emotionally probably would > never have one > - correct? Yes. Leaving the wealthier who often do not care about society's needs and so would promote more euthanization of healthy dogs and cats. > I live in a retirement home. We who have a pet MUST do > all [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > down. (more > delicate to say mice than rats). Hope all are well today. Take care, Popsie's mom. The wise elderly are the only chance young folks have. I very much value a post like yours because I get mail all the time for donations for this or that; churches want tithe and donations; family need help; etc. I've learned to watch out for myself as to my own ESSENTIALS because nobody else will. My Mom and Dad wrote out a tithe check for $100 to a church and had no groceries to eat and were to embarressed to ask for help. So, they tore up the check and prayed about it and bought food. They have a tiny poodle and "Christy" is always taken care of - why? They know she is "human" to them and has to be taken care of. I see posts below this one that do not merit comment. I've been there too. I've had to pawn everything I've owned not for a cat but for my children to have something to eat or for gas for our car for my husband to go to work. I've also sold blood plasma for $15 for something to eat or a little gasoline. You do what you have to do. But all that is not encouraging a lady whose cat is dear to her and is "family" to her and she is scared. She does not need to be blessed out and put down. As for rabies or whatever? I don't know. > I can appreciate the double quotation marks around "afford" > and "keep up." They are so relative. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > Take care, Popsie's mom. The wise elderly are the only > chance young folks have. > SO, do ONLY people who can "afford" to "keep up" a pet have a pet? If so, > the very people who NEED pets emotionally probably would never have one > - correct? Hi, I have just noticed you posting recently so I think you are new here. You have just hit on one of the "hot" topics we discuss from time to time here. Should people who cannot afford basic veterinary care have pets? I know it's not a simple answer as strays do turn up at people's homes and they keep them and the stray may otherwise not have gotten a home at all--yet when this former stray needs vet care, there may not be $$ to pay for it. It's a dilemma--iis a home that cannot provide vet care better than no home? At least the cat will get fed and have some love in its life. But, in this case, the poor cat is in an obvious critical medical condition. I guess I think that a home where the cat is cared about is better than never having a home at all but there should be a contingency plan for situations such as this...even if it is to just take the cat to the local humane society or pound and have it euthanized. There are ways to get emergency vet care, I would think. Unless one has horrible credit, one can generally arrange to get credit at most vet's offices from an outside source. My most recent vet offered "CareCredit." I had to qualify for it but I needed a few thousand dollars that I didn't have just laying around. These people could try that, or try to borrow $$ from someone, or beg a vet to let them pay later, something. When a cat becomes paralyzed, it's not a minor thing. I understand if they cannot afford to treat the cat but they need to take it in, have it seen, and euthanize it if they can't afford the treatment, if there even is one. It's too cruel to allow any being to just suffer. > I live in a retirement home. We who have a pet MUST do all > of the above and the pet must stay inside only. HOWEVER, strays come > onto the campus property and have babies and grandbabies and great... > and and and. SO, periodically, the cat-catcher does his thing. Miami > is over-run with feral or stray or alley cats. Keeps mice down. (more > delicate to say mice than rats). Hope all are well today. That's very nice that you are permitted to have pets there and it sounds as though Popsie has a very good life. It's a drag about the cat-catcher, though, as I'm sure those cats are euthanized. It would be better if someone (maybe you?) contacted a local trap, neuter, release group to help with the problem. Then the cats can live out their lives without reproducing and keep catching the mice. If you look on the internet, I'm sure a city the size of Miami has many groups that would be willing to help as long as the retirement home would agree. There are benefits to all concerned. Candace > It's a dilemma--iis a home that > cannot provide vet care better than no home? At least the cat will get > fed and have some love in its life. Yes it's far better to have a home even with no vet care, but like you said the OP here, has not stated any efforts to get credit, or some sort of intervention from any vet er facilities. You would think at a minimum the local county/city authorities would direct her to low-cost solution, or offer to come get the cat. Of course the obvious lesson here is DON'T LEAVE A CAT OUTSIDE they left it in the heat all day, this is such a sad story, poor little cat waiting outside the door for the bitches to come home from the mall. I know damn well they ain't that damn broke or ignorant that they couldn't even call the pound to get direction. makes me angry I don't have alot of money laying around either, but it is almost criminal to let an animal suffer and even more ignorant to go public and tell it. PLENTY could have been done from the onset of their discovery, it's cruel and borderline criminal, they are being negligent it was like Yesterday that the cat went limp from the heat. them two need shot with sh.t then whipped for stinking I don't the person in question, nor the circumstances, however, here in Miami, it is HOT. I went out today in my Power Wheelchair and like to have roasted my arse off and had to stop in a store because I could feel the heat exhaustion coming on. Now, I am a big 350# woman, a tiny cat has NO CHANCE in this God awful heat. It needs shelter, shade, access to cool water, preferably a/c. If humans CAN not survive in the ultraviolet radiation of 2006, how can a tiny cat? Crispy-critter in no time. I am NOT condemning this person with this sick kitty, nor unfortunate people who perhaps HAD means to care for their selves and pets and lost it. I feel, personally, if my beloved "Popsie" was suffering so bad and I had no cash, I would take her to the local pound and have her put to sleep so she would stop suffering. And BELIEVE me I LOVE my Popsie like a baby, but I love her enough to not let her suffer and die a horrid death. Honestly, if I was terminal, I would not want to suffer and linger on machines and stuff either. Thank God, though, I am getting better every day! > > It's a dilemma--iis a home that > > cannot provide vet care better than no home? At least the cat will get [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > them two need shot with sh.t then whipped for stinking > I don't the person in question, nor the circumstances, however, here in > Miami, it is HOT. I went out today in my Power Wheelchair and like to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to suffer and linger on machines and stuff either. Thank God, though, I > am getting better every day! Amen sweety, I bet you can make mean chicken potpie! I want to be fat, I look good fat. I had forgotten you said you was in a residential place, I have a granny who was looking at some, they can be very nice (in the brochure).. the good thing is you're not alone, next good thing is someone else cooks ;) I hope you have children or other family who visit often enough. I think that's wonderful they let you have a cat, cats are greast company. I can't tell you the people I've met who say they are scared of cats, wouldn't have a cat, don't like cats etc.. but cats more than pull their own weight. Even a very inactive cat is great company to have around. I think the part where they need us feels good. Somebody needs us you know, I like that. They are also clever little food mongers. ME: Yes, new to here, but not new to life. CANDACE: > Hi, I have just noticed you posting recently so I think you are new > here. ....... You have just hit on one of the "hot" topics we discuss from > time to time here. Should people who cannot afford basic veterinary > care have pets? ME: > > I live in a retirement home. We who have a pet MUST do all > > of the above and the pet must stay inside only. HOWEVER, strays come > > onto the campus property and have babies and grandbabies and great... > > and and and. SO, periodically, the cat-catcher does his thing. Miami > > is over-run with feral or stray or alley cats. Keeps mice down. (more > > delicate to say mice than rats). Hope all are well today. CANDACE: > That's very nice that you are permitted to have pets there and it > sounds as though Popsie has a very good life. It's a drag about the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that would be willing to help as long as the retirement home would > agree. There are benefits to all concerned. ME: As a "resident" in a retirement community/home, we are restricted in MANY ways and it is not in our abilities to have anything done for or against the cats on the property of which we live in/on unless we personally claim ONE cat and have everything done for that ONE cat our own self out of our own finances or other helps and as I said keep that ONE cat inside. The "home" HAS been "humane" about it though because there are several "long-timer" outdoor cats who have ear-notches showing that they have been spayed and I know that they had been "caught" and were "gone" for a "while" and they "poof" out of nowhere they were returned.with a little surgery. Others, however, "toms" keep tomming around. And, some are UNcatchable. They let you pet their heads and get close, but NEVER pick them up, they'll tear you up!! Feral! Tame enough to be near. Feral enough to be safe! > ME: As a "resident" in a retirement community/home, we are restricted > in MANY ways and it is not in our abilities to have anything done for [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and get close, but NEVER pick them up, they'll tear you up!! Feral! > Tame enough to be near. Feral enough to be safe! I didn't mean that you should go out and catch them yourself; just maybe make some phone calls to some TNR groups but it sounds as though someone is already trying to help the cats there. That's good. It's still too bad about the toms and they could probably be trapped with a humane trap and then neutered. Candace >Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our >aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does >any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? Why the hell isn't this cat at a vet? -mhd > skuddo@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Why the hell isn't this cat at a vet? Out of curiosity: What part of "due to money we probably won't be able to [take her to a vet]" does not make sense to you? How many cats are being euthanized this week at your local shelter because you refused to rescue them? I think you could find a more persuasive tone to help this cat. That's the point, isn't it? > > skuddo@gmail.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > I think you could find a more persuasive tone to help this > cat. That's the point, isn't it? Idiot. > "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote >> > skuddo@gmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Idiot. If you can't respond to the questions, then I think that proves my points above. >> "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote >>> > skuddo@gmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > If you can't respond to the questions, then I think that proves my points > above. One thing that I learned a long time ago the one that blows the horn is usually the one full of hot air >>> "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote >>>> > skuddo@gmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > One thing that I learned a long time ago the one that blows the horn is > usually the one full of hot air :) Onde thing I learned a long time ago is that anyone who posts to Usenet (on a computer worth several hundred dollars) about a critically ill animal instead of taking the animal to the vet is criminally negligent and personally abhorrent--at least to me. Apologists like Navorski are even worse. Idiots, indeed. And you? Well, "Matt," what do you think? Could you, would you leave a critically ill animal to suffer? If not, then why are you even saying one f.cking word here? Hot air, indeed. In any case, hot air smells a whole lot better than what you are full of.  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote >>> "cybercat" <cyberpurrs@yahoo.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > vet is criminally negligent and personally abhorrent--at > least to me. Negligent, yes. Criminally, no. Personally abhorent? Depends. If they know low cost ways to put a very sick animal out of its suffering and do not act upon them, then they are abhorrent. If they are asking what to do, then they are simply not educated on the point. > Well, "Matt," what do you think? > > Could you, would you leave a critically ill animal to > suffer? He is leaving a critically ill animal to suffer. Many each day, as a matter of fact. Pillory him. I asked a few polite questions. You did not answer. That still says it all. snip. Vulgarity only reflects on you and doesn't help this discussion or newsgroup. Congratulations (for making it so quickly into my killfile). I demand rational discussion or else I do a disservice to everyone here trying to get help with their animals. >>>> "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote >>>>> > skuddo@gmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > In any case, hot air smells a whole lot better than what you are full > of. You jumped the gun once again it was a response to THE OP "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote> > > You jumped the gun once again it was a response to THE OP sigh I'm sorry. *hanging my head* > "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote> > > > You jumped the gun once again it was a response to THE OP [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > *hanging my head* /me hands cc a big fat martini. -L. >> "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote> > >> > You jumped the gun once again it was a response to THE OP [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > /me hands cc a big fat martini. ooo, "dirty," just like I like it! thank you. It has been one of those weeks. So far. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > /me hands cc a big fat martini. yes, i'd like to see what you put in a martini Lyn onions or olives? shaken or stirred? dry or sweet? just curios > > /me hands cc a big fat martini. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > just curios Tanqueray martini, straight up, extra dry, two olives. Glass has to be extremely chilled and of course shaken, not srirred. -L. > Tanqueray martini, straight up, extra dry, two olives. Glass has to be > extremely chilled and of course shaken, not srirred. i want one > > Tanqueray martini, straight up, extra dry, two olives. Glass has to be > > extremely chilled and of course shaken, not srirred. > > i want one And "dirty" is with olive juice added. :) I prefer Beefeaters, but Tangueray is also good. > And "dirty" is with olive juice added. :) I prefer Beefeaters, but Tangueray > is > also good. I don't have a preference, I know I really like tangueray, never had it dirty before is dirty good, is it any fun > And "dirty" is with olive juice added. :) I prefer Beefeaters, but Tangueray > is > also good. I haven't had one in almost a year but the last one I had was Bombay Sapphire and it was pretty dang tasty. I really like three big fat olives in mine because I love to eat them after they've sucked up the gin. Damn - now I'm jonesin' for a 'tini and it's only 3:00! -L. > > Tanqueray martini, straight up, extra dry, two olives. Glass has to be > > extremely chilled and of course shaken, not srirred. > > i want one Bar, hon, if you're real mean to Matty Boy I may make you one. And it will be REALLY DIRTY! -L. > Bar, hon, if you're real mean to Matty Boy I may make you one. And it > will be REALLY DIRTY! > -L. ok, brb, i go to report him to his isp >> Bar, hon, if you're real mean to Matty Boy I may make you one. And it >> will be REALLY DIRTY! >> -L. > > ok, brb, i go to report him to his isp I see you like it cheap their Barry ;-) > I see you like it cheap their Barry ;-) lol, I bet I pay more for mine than everybody whew! they take more than just a little bit off my ankles > "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote> > >> You jumped the gun once again it was a response to THE OP [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > *hanging my head* Accepted you know I am not going to knock you for what you say. I almost always agree with you > Accepted you know I am not going to knock you for what you say. I almost > always agree with you and then OP gets lots of flames and she herself gets poasting paralysis (i think we're alone now) that oughtta learn her > "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote> > >> You jumped the gun once again it was a response to THE OP [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > *hanging my head* Accepted you know I am not going to knock you for what you say. I almost always agree with you > Accepted you know I am not going to knock you for what you say. I almost > always agree with you yeah yeah whatever you pussy She is going to come to your house and kick your a.s Barry But you probably would like it just like John Doe does when his mommy spanks him You sick prevert (not yet a pervert you are still learning) you ;-) >> Accepted you know I am not going to knock you for what you say. I >> almost >> always agree with you > > yeah yeah whatever you pussy > She is going to come to your house and kick your a.s Barry > But you probably would like it just like John Doe does when his mommy > spanks him > You sick prevert (not yet a pervert you are still learning) you ;-) Dammit Matt, everytime you get a few drinks in you, you goto confronting Im not taking anymore of your abuses >> She is going to come to your house and kick your a.s Barry >> But you probably would like it just like John Doe does when his mommy [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > confronting > Im not taking anymore of your abuses Sorry Barry I could not resist ;-) Only bad thing is I don't drink > Sorry Barry I could not resist ;-) > > Only bad thing is I don't drink that's not a bad thing but I like a cold beer sometimes or sometimes I won't have coffee in the morning but get a really good beer buzz going yes it was a song, but I invented the original morning beer buzz What did you call in sick to work >> Sorry Barry I could not resist ;-) >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > beer buzz going > yes it was a song, but I invented the original morning beer buzz > What did you call in sick to work im self employed, I goto the fridge and get another beer if I have to be out working, I won't catch a buzz.. or maybe just a teeny one > > Accepted you know I am not going to knock you for what you say. I almost > > always agree with you > > yeah yeah whatever you pussy *gasp!* I have been forged! I am reporting you to your eye-eth-pee! > If you can't respond to the questions, then I think that > proves my points above. BE ADVISED TO THE FOLLOWING LAWS AND PENALTIES OF THE STATE OF TEXAS State of Texas Penal Code SEC. 42.09. CRUELTY TO ANIMALS (A) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly: (1) tortures or seriously overworks an animal; (2) fails unreasonably to provide necessary food, SHELTER or care; (3) abandons unreasonably an animal in his custody; (4) transports or confines an animal in a cruel manner; (5) kills, injures, or administers poison to an animal belonging to another without legal authority or the owner's effective consent; (6) causes one animal to fight another; (7) uses a live animal as a lure in dog race training or in dog coursing; (8) horse tripping AN OFFENSE UNDER THIS SECTION IS A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR SEC. 12.21 CLASS A MISDEMEANOR (A) Any individual adjudged guilty of a Class A misdemeanor shall be punished by: (1) a fine not to exceed $4,000.00; (2) confinement in jail for a term not to exceed one year; (3) BOTH such fine and imprisonment. Animal Cruelty Statute - Third Offense An amendment to the Penal Code, provides a felony penalty for individuals convicted of animal abuse on a third offense. As of September 1, 2001, people who are convicted of committing acts of cruelty or torture to animals can receive harsher punishment via the new bill: HB 653. Heinous crimes of cruelty towards animals can now be tried as a FELONY punishable by up to $10,000 in fines or 2 years in jail or BOTH. Under this new law, minors (under the age of 18) can be forced to undergo psychological counseling. Studies have shown links between animal abuse and domestic violence. Furthermore, those who torture animals are at much higher risk for committing violent and deadly crimes against humans later in life. It is not enough to be compassionate you must act Amy Bartell You must be the change you wish to see in the world Ghandi Any cat is helpless to help themselves much less a paralyzed cat. How many think the OP will post back and be honest and say the cat died? They let the paralyzed cat lay, she even posted back and told the cat pooped and pee'd one time. Where was the common sense and decency to act responsibly on behalf of the cat? What was the diagnosis? Nobody knows. This is really sad. The little cat sat outside the door dying. Till the sun finally took her out. There is no mention of water outside the apartment, no provision what do the law say? (2) fails unreasonably to provide necessary food, SHELTER or care; (3) abandons unreasonably an animal in his custody; mhmmm >> skuddo@gmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >I think you could find a more persuasive tone to help this >cat. That's the point, isn't it? Give me a break, they can afford Internet service and a computer but can't find money for vet care? It's usually just priorities when money is scarce. Hell, just don't go drinking for 3 weeks or cut back on the Big Macs. Probably got a cell phone too. -mhd > "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > computer but > can't find money for vet care? You can afford internet service and a computer but can't take in five more cats? You are in no position to judge. You might be in a position to help. No one says they can't find a way to get vet care. They may simply be unaware of all their options. Given the way you kicked this stranger when s/he was down, and with such apparent "on higher moral ground" (so you fool yourself) glee, I sure would have concerns about how you treat animals. >> "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > apparent "on higher moral ground" (so you fool yourself) glee, I sure > would have concerns about how you treat animals. Elle, Money is tight for most of us, I'm guessing. I'm not exactly rich and I find ways to pay for my seven. Every cat I share my life with is a rescued cat. I don't adopt more from the shelter because I know my limits. If I had my druthers I'd probably have ten more but I know I can't afford it. Whoever takes in an animal has a responsibility to that animal. No one said it would always be easy but part of responsible pet ownership is providing for their health care. I've had to sacrifice to take care of my animals and I know from so many of the posts here that others have had to make greater sacrifices in order to do the best for their cats. It just seems like some people see pets as a disposable commodity--it's fine when they're cute and frisky but when they get sick, discard them and get another one and that frustrates a lot of people here--a newsgroup is not a substitute for good vet care. I wish I had better ideas on how the OP could pay for a vet's visit. Some vets will work out payment schedules, as others have suggested, going without on some things for a little, borrow from someone, be creative. You had a very good point in one of your earlier posts--if you can't afford treatment then at least have the cat euthanized. What ever it's cause, paralysis is hard enough on a rational human and must be extremely stressful for the cat and it's cruel to just let the cat suffer. My two cents, Bonnie Bonnie, I like your post most of all because, not being able to walk, clean your own self, do for your own self for a HUMAN is HORRIBLE and DEPRESSING and required MONEY or INSURANCE to survive AND the lifespan is usually cut short depending on the conditions. Disposable animals is a HORRIBLE thing. Animals are like little humans - little peoples. When we take them into our homes they become PART OF US! And we must care for them as such or just don't start with the cutesy baby. Baby anythings grow up into expensive bigger babies!! SO - disposable animals as in getting a pet for a child and then taking it to the pound when it gets sick may be cruel but so is dumping off litters of kittens on the side of the road or pregnant animals. HOW do we get it through people's heads that stuffed animals are better than live ones? Baby-dolls better than real ones? Low cost, low maintenance. Messes up - throw it away and start again. Negative? Realistic. In the mean time. We each have to tend to our own individual pets that we CAN afford and try to help as we CAN and are ABLE to help. Some people can help and take care of ONE cat (we got ours from under a dumpster covered in ants and fleas abandoned by its mother). You have 7. The person with the paralyzed cat maybe took on more than she bargained for. If it happened to mine, my funds would not go for a HUGE surgery. $200 - $300/yr on doctors yes, but not thousands. Never. That's when my "baby" returns to being a plain animal and I snap back to the reality of my own financial needs. Maybe that is what happened to this other person. God bless them and you too., Gail Lynn Batton > >> "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > My two cents, Bonnie >> "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > apparent "on higher moral ground" (so you fool yourself) glee, I sure > would have concerns about how you treat animals. Idiot. lol SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > No one says they can't find a way to get vet care. They may > simply be unaware of all their options. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > yourself) glee, I sure would have concerns about how you > treat animals. Someone tipped me off to the OP's google posting history: http://tinyurl.com/jc4ou Interesting. Apparently there is enough money in that particular household for some recreational drug use, just not quite enough to help a poor, paralyzed cat. Candace > http://tinyurl.com/jc4ou > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Candace > http://tinyurl.com/jc4ou > http://tinyurl.com/jc4ou > http://tinyurl.com/jc4ou > http://tinyurl.com/jc4ou > http://tinyurl.com/jc4ou ROFLMAO >> No one says they can't find a way to get vet care. They may >> simply be unaware of all their options. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Candace Don't confuse Elle with facts. -mhd > >> No one says they can't find a way to get vet care. They may > >> simply be unaware of all their options. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Don't confuse Elle with facts. Where do these stupid bitches come from? > Someone tipped me off to the OP's google posting history: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Candace Oh, that's just f.cking great. -L. > > Someone tipped me off to the OP's google posting history: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -L. The other thing is, there is ALWAYS a way to get an injured creature, cat or otherwise, medical care. Sell something, take a loan, beg your friends, neighbors and family, call every vet in town or just take the cat in anyway. How many vets would refuse to at least put the animal out of pain without money up front? Believe it or not, some of them are in the business at least in part because they care about animals and want to alleviate suffering. As with many vets, my own do lots of gratis work. People are always abandoning animals, especially kittens, so that the vets and techs find them in the morning when they open up. My vets have told me many stories about the animals they help without pay. Most people, vets and others, are decent and cannot bear to watch anything suffer like that without getting help. Not a.shole Elle or the OP, but then, there are always a few in every crowd. Happily, they appear just when I am ripe for bitchslapping someone deserving. Unhappily, they can actually wind up responsible for the care of living things. Ugh. "The other thing is, there is ALWAYS a way to get an injured creature, cat or otherwise, medical care. Sell something, take a loan, beg your friends, neighbors and family, call every vet in town or just take the cat in anyway. How many vets would refuse to at least put the animal out of pain without money up front? Believe it or not, some of them are in the business at least in part because they care about animals and want to alleviate suffering." If I was broke and had a broken cat, that's what I would do I would write down 2-3 er addresses, have directions ready, put the cat in the car and just show up! I would not talk about money unless they asked me it's like going to shoney's and eating without money, you settle the money after you eat. If money was brought up before hand; of course I would say, lemme pay you next FRI or in TWO days... even if it was a lie my cat would still get help, and the thing is, like you say, what vet would despise your deed. >You can afford internet service and a computer but can't >take in five more cats? Straw man argument. The OP is sitting around with a paralyzed cat and you sit around making stupid posts. There is only one response to the Op and that is to get the cat to a vet. -mhd Since you are throwing a hissy fit here did you ever stop and think this was a troll it appears to have been The OP posted in quite a few group and when responded to by take your cat to the vet they told people off So your point is not being made by causing a hissy fit to say >> "Elle" <elle_navorski@earthlink.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > apparent "on higher moral ground" (so you fool yourself) glee, I sure > would have concerns about how you treat animals. > Path: > be16.lga!hwmnpeer02.lga!hw-filter.lga!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-med [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >>>>neck down.She doesnt seem to be in any kind of pain, but >>>>im sure she > Give me a break, they can afford Internet service and a computer but > can't find money for vet care? It's usually just priorities when money > is scarce. Hell, just don't go drinking for 3 weeks or cut back on the > Big Macs. Probably got a cell phone too. > > -mhd Make that CABLE internet service (RoadRunner) which means cable TV as well as Internet service. >> Path: >> be16.lga!hwmnpeer02.lga!hw-filter.lga!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-med [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Make that CABLE internet service (RoadRunner) which means cable TV as > well as Internet service. Chances are there's a credit card in the family too. Most vets, around here at least, take VISA and MC. Not the greatest way to go but gets the cat taken care of and gives the OP the opportunity to pay it off over time. W > Out of curiosity: > What part of "due to money we probably won't be able to > [take her to a vet]" does not make sense to you? Actually none of it makes sense. If you don't have a cash reserve or a credit card for such emergencies, don't keep the animal. > How many cats are being euthanized this week at your local > shelter because you refused to rescue them? Thousands - and it is a fate much better than a cat suffering to death because its idiot "owner" can't afford to have it treated by a vet. > I think you could find a more persuasive tone to help this > cat. That's the point, isn't it? The only help this cat needs is immediate vet care. She isn't going to find that on the internet. That's the ONLY point worth making. -L. > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was > twitching/convulsing. We live in san antonio and It was a pretty hot > day out well maybe God will be merciful and kill the little pussy before "ya'll" do any more damage to it I hope the cat dies suddenly and quickly if you can't get it to a vet you should take it out and stone it, put it out of it's misery Just kidding! Call a church dumbass you people get on my damn nerves Pawn some sh.t! and take the cat to the vet or don't have a cat at all > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was yeah and I bet your a.s is 3 feet wide you and your mammas! I bet you spent more money on lottery tickets and kmart junk-sh.t shame on you hoes don't tell me no damn lies! you spent enough money yesterday to more than handle the problem ever heard of sacrifice? f.ck'n press on nail wearin trollip I got you number nasty weed monkey it's too late... and you're a dinga ling for leaving everybody here hanging it's cause the cat died didn't it damn! and there's a perfectly good addy shot to hell On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 09:46:26 -0700, skuddo wrote: > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was > twitching/convulsing. We live in san antonio ... In any area where rabies is a possibility, any animal with an unexplained, relatively sudden, nervous system disorder should be taken to a veterinarian It's probably something else - some cats are prone to blood clots that cause paralysis from the site of the clot, back. You might be willing to take the chance that it isn't rabies, but she is an outside cat and other people may have handled her. Using Google, I find that the Humane Society & SPCA of Bexar County (and San Antonio) is open until 7pm tonight (they're closed tomorrow). Why not give them a call and see what they suggest what you might do. http://www.humanesocietyspca.org/ > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > her earlyer that morning and said she wasn't walking strait. We haven't > taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. I can't believe I even have to type this, but here goes... If you cannot afford to take her to a vet, take her to your local shelter and have her euthanized so that she isn't suffering. -L. (Is it me or are people becoming more and more stupid? I barely can read this ng anymore...) > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does > any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? You know this sounds like it *could* be antifreeze that she got into. You NEED to take this cat to the vet. Find the money somewhere, call the shelters, do SOMETHING. Even euthanizing her so she isn't in any pain anymore is more humane than just sitting there and doing nothing. You can call churches, local shelters, vets, etc. A vets office might be able to work with you... Jenn After a zillion posts from SINCERELY CARING PEOPLE, please tell us all, HOW IS THE CAT NOW??? If the cat is still sick, then our concerns are with you and hope that our advice has helped you to find help, find money, find hope, find a solution. If the cat has died then we are very sorry for your loss and hope that you will find peace about it in your own way with no criticism from most of us. Speaking for myself, pets are terribly expensive. If I do not have a back-up financial source for emergencies and do not care enough about my pet to take such measures - then I will not have a pet. I had to make that decision and do so even legally in order to stay here with a pet - I had to sign a legal aggreement before I opted to have my cat (a stray) as my own. Otherwise she would have been taken to the pound - she was very sickly - dying. Life is full of pain. THAT is LIFE. And pets are full of LOVE. Full of making us LAUGH and cry and be happy and loved. BUT, it still comes down to it - it COSTS MONEY TO LIVE as a human being and it cost money to have a pet. It is not a crime to not be middle class or rich. PLEASE let us know - how is the cat? REPLY!! > Yesterday my mom found my cat our inside/outside cat sitting by our > aprtment in a daze. She could hardly stand or walk strait, and she was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does > any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? > After a zillion posts from SINCERELY CARING PEOPLE, please tell us all, > HOW IS THE CAT NOW??? If the cat is still sick, then our concerns are [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> taken her to a vet, and due to money we probably won't be able to. Does >> any one have any idea what might be wrong with her or what we can do? Not going to they were a troll > > After a zillion posts from SINCERELY CARING PEOPLE, please tell us all, > > HOW IS THE CAT NOW??? If the cat is still sick, then our concerns are [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Not going to they were a troll They may be a troll in the true since of the word, but they also posted in another cat group, it was not a cross post, I really think their cat wilted in the heat buncha wig wearin tight a.ses couldn't get help for the cat see... my thinking is that the cat died this is why they won't post back > They may be a troll in the true since of the word, but they also posted > in another cat group, it was not a cross post, I really think their cat [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > this is why they won't post back Either that or she ran away from having her a.s paddled by so many of us. Personally, I think the post was too poorly written to be a troll - probably just a bimbo who is too stupid to do anything for the cat. -L. feel really stupid but what's a troll?? > > After a zillion posts from SINCERELY CARING PEOPLE, please tell us all, > > HOW IS THE CAT NOW??? If the cat is still sick, then our concerns are [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Not going to they were a troll http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll > feel really stupid but what's a troll?? >> > After a zillion posts from SINCERELY CARING PEOPLE, please tell us all, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> >> Not going to they were a troll > feel really stupid but what's a troll?? don't feel stupid love a troll is someone who does stuff just to get attention of course there are these hybrid trolls, you can't quite put your finger on it but something is askew with them do you have to get out of bed to cook, or do they bring food to your room? how old do you have to be to get in there, I like food brought to my room do they have HBO or Showtime? how's the ventilation in them places, can I open a window? maybe there's a good strong bathroom fan to let the smoke out? That would be great, I could watch price is right, have a good pipe, then they bring me lunch... mmm, makes me wiggle my toes my grandma thought about checking into a retirement center such as yours I hope they are good to you there ME: If you are trying to make fun of me by calling me a "FREAK" ok, names don't bug me anymore. If that makes you feel better, I'm glad to help you out. Doesn't bother me any, hahaha hahaha. YOU: < don't feel stupid love ME: I don't but thanks. YOU: > a troll is someone who does stuff just to get attention ME: Everyone, then, is a "troll" at some time or another, from birth to death! YOU: < do you have to get out of bed to cook, or do they bring food to your > room? ME: There is a dining room in the main building where all the resident can eat 3 meals and 1 snack each day, plus, we are allowed to have a microwave and a tiny refrigerator in our own rooms. But, major cooking is not really allowed, for health regulations and fire regulations, etc. YOU: > how old do you have to be to get in there ME: Age is not the requirement here because this is not only a retirement home, it is also an Assisted Living Facility for people who are disabled and can do for their own selves but can not at this time live on their own for whatever reason. It is not a nursing home.. YOU: , I like food brought to my > room ME: That is only done here if you have a temporary sickness or if you pay extra per month or such. In order to live here you have to pretty much be able to do for yourself or they will have helpers brought in to help you - Home Health Care, from outside agencies. YOU: > do they have HBO or Showtime? ME: The facility has a "TV area" in the main building which has a TIVO satellite set-up with basic service and they also play videos for the residents. We are allowed to have DirectTV in our own rooms - but we have to pay for it ourselves if we have the funding to do so. Each person's situation is personal and may be different from the next person. YOU: > how's the ventilation in them places, can I open a window? maybe > there's a good strong bathroom fan to let the smoke out? ME: Each room/apartment/unit has air-conditioning, yes, the windows open, yes, a weak fan, and no, smoke would not work here. They have high- powered smoke/heat/fire sensors both inside and outside so nobody can smoke anything or even have candles or incense in the rooms. YOU: > then they bring me lunch... mmm, makes me wiggle my toes ME: LOL YOU: > my grandma thought about checking into a retirement center such as > yours > I hope they are good to you there ME: Yes, as long as you don't run into the front glass door and bust it to pieces and then they want me to pay almost $300 to replace it, an accident with my powered wheelchair and me just on Social Security DIsability!! But, my lawyer says I am not liable. Can't get money that ain't there! For the 99.99% of the time they are ok as long as we do right by them and by each other and by our own selves. Take our medications correctly, keep doctor appointments, don't drink alcohol, don't smoke in the rooms, don't feed the outside cats, etc. It's SAFE in here!! And, as long as we sign in and out, we can come and go freely as long as we are competent. I love it! When you are disabled, it is good to know someone is there for you. God Bless you. Gail Lynn Batton > ME: > If you are trying to make fun of me by calling me a "FREAK" ok, names > don't bug me anymore. If that makes you feel better, I'm glad to help > you out. Doesn't bother me any, hahaha hahaha. oh man... what's a fella got to do to troll someone... yeah see.. I was trolling you, demonstrating what a troll might do :) - that sounds like a nice place I bet that was scary running into the glass... hope you didn't break no toes or fingers or get cuts. If you can't feed the outside cats, how is it that you have Popsie I know you told how this works, I just can't sort through the posts so easily... maybe if you get time, you might tell again how you actually have a cat. I think it is great! I could always go outside to have a puff you know... seeing that they have high powered smoke detectors or eat it anyway I don't mind paying extra to have food brought to my bedside, especially if The Price is Right is on. I'm going to check out your web-page some more, maybe I'll figure out how you got that cat in your room. It's none of my business, but may as well bring it up, I hope you have friends or family who come visit, and help you make groceries or goto the dollar store and what not. It's good to get out sometimes. you don't have to answer of course, I just hope it's so. It's pouring down right in VA, I love the rain. My cats, Lucy and Jupiter are snoozing away, they must like the rain too. It's been very humid here. Here is a 2 month old picture of Jupiter when she was about 2 months old (the picture was taken 2 months ago) http://barryparrish.com/barjup6.jpg i need to take some current pics you do nice with web building too do you do all that yourself? web building can be frustrating when remote computers don't do right. see ya Read up on "troll", thanks, getting off topic "cat suddenly paralyzed" ???, taking up people's time ???, etc. So, I reckon I got caught up in your trolling, huh? If you want to email me, feel free to, but I don't think this discussion matches the topic, right?? Would love to chat, just gotta follow rules, right?? Bye. Gail Lynn Batton bttngl@gmail.com > > ME: > > If you are trying to make fun of me by calling me a "FREAK" ok, names [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > see ya > Read up on "troll", thanks, getting off topic "cat suddenly paralyzed" > ???, taking up people's time ???, etc. So, I reckon I got caught up in > your trolling, huh? If you want to email me, feel free to, but I don't > think this discussion matches the topic, right?? Would love to chat, > just gotta follow rules, right?? Bye. Gail Lynn Batton > bttngl@gmail.com that's some mighty fine trolling you're doing there Gail! I'm not messing with you, you're are too clever for me. you got me good... you sho you ain't never been trollin? on the other hand, it don't work like that slim nooooo you don't follow no rules, where'd you hear that? wikipedia? sometimes you gotta fill in the blank spots with a little harmless fun, that's all you can post anything you like, you might not get a response... but that's what public anonymous posting is about, you never know who you might meet I've found it's best, when you're in rome you do as the romans I believe I saw your Popsie and raised you by a picture of my black baby Jupiter I think I was very curios how you can feed and keep cats where the rules say NO CATS mhmmm, being that you are now keeping rules... heh okok, beings nobody is on this stream of thought anyway - I'm new at all this anyway. I think others sneak-feed the outside cats, or leave their doors open for the cats at night?? We were threatened that we would be evicted if we fed them, so we don't. We did not know about the rules when we first found Popsie and then, we were told we could have ONE kitty IF we took FULL responsibility - which we have and have all the papers for her - annual stuff and any in between stuff as needed. I sign GAIL LYNN because that's what my Mama named me and Batton because that's my name and I have no worry about people finding me because I'm in the phone book and I'm on the web and have nothing to hide or lose. $20 Want to rob me of that hahhahahhahha??? And I'm fixin to go to the 99cent store and spend that!! I have no credit. And, the facility gets my monthly check. So, whoopteedoo. I live in a gated community. My companion is big and mean - hahhahaha. More than that, after all I've lived in my life, I have already told God that I'm ready whenever He's ready to take me - or I'm ready to live however long He gives me to stay. It's like a simple walk through a door and I'm not scared at all. Pain? I live in intractable pain every day of my life. So, let me enjoy seeing my name on the dang screen and let me have some fun while I still can, ok, Sweetie. This Mama just wants to peek in and see what's going on with people and offer a few words here and there and be kind to all and well that's about all. Troll? I thought that was the little critter under a bridge charging a fee to cross over? All this new jargon is new to me. Someone had a link on about it and I went to it and read about it. See you kids later, God bless you, Gail Lynn Batton > > Read up on "troll", thanks, getting off topic "cat suddenly paralyzed" > > ???, taking up people's time ???, etc. So, I reckon I got caught up in [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > rules say NO CATS > mhmmm, being that you are now keeping rules... heh > Read up on "troll", thanks, getting off topic "cat suddenly paralyzed" > ???, taking up people's time ???, etc. So, I reckon I got caught up in > your trolling, huh? If you want to email me, feel free to, but I don't > think this discussion matches the topic, right?? Would love to chat, > just gotta follow rules, right?? Bye. Gail Lynn Batton Mrs. Batton, 1. It is a very bad idea for you to post your full name in Usenet, particularly if you are going to antagonize perfectly nice people like Angel.For example, in two clicks I found your complete address and telephone. Just an FYI. 2. Angel was just being nice to you. I have not bothered since your "retaining water" post because I think you are an idiot. For God's sake, you are twice the age of most people here and you have no idea that drinking water helps keep weight off, not on? HTH. HAND. |
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