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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2006Feedback on Advantix?
I'm considering a switch to Advantix after long time satisfied Frontline use. The primary point of interest for me is the claim of repelling fleas. Do any of you have experience you could share regarding effectiveness in that area? Always has worked for me safe on kittens I live in Florida where cats spend time on a Florida room. NO FLEAS last a long time never had any reactions to it except when you try and catch them to put it on.( Typical cats) > I'm considering a switch to Advantix after long time satisfied Frontline > use. The primary point of interest for me is the claim of repelling fleas. > Do any of you have experience you could share regarding effectiveness in > that area? Sorry did you mean advantage or Advantix which I though was for dogs only and not to be used on CATS > Always has worked for me safe on kittens I live in Florida where cats > spend time on a Florida room. NO FLEAS last a long time never had any [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> fleas. Do any of you have experience you could share regarding >> effectiveness in that area? Matthew, this is puzzling. There has been a thread on rpca for the last few days (called "Flea treatment question"). You posted several messages and indicated that you would *not* use Frontline due to allergic reactions from a number of shelter cats. In one message, you talked about several kittens that had respiratory distress and said, "I will never use Frontline again even my vet won't use it." What is going on here? Why are your messages to two groups saying exactly the opposite? MaryL > Always has worked for me safe on kittens I live in Florida where cats > spend time on a Florida room. NO FLEAS last a long time never had any [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> fleas. Do any of you have experience you could share regarding >> effectiveness in that area? What are you talking about last time I looked Frontline and Advantage are 2 different products and in both post on both groups I say I use advantage and IMO not to use frontline I corrected the error in my second reply post I thought he meant advantage and just had misspelled it that is why I corrected my thread The other part it was cats not kittens they ranged from a over a year to 6 years of age Sorry for any misconceptions > Matthew, this is puzzling. There has been a thread on rpca for the last > few days (called "Flea treatment question"). You posted several messages [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>> fleas. Do any of you have experience you could share regarding >>> effectiveness in that area? You're right, and I apologize. I misinterpreted your message in this thread. When you said, "always worked for me," I interpreted that as a reference to Frontline. Obviously, it was not -- you were talking about Advantage. I would like to reinforce your message about Advantix being for dogs and not for cats. Hopefully, the OP really means Advantage, as you said. MaryL > What are you talking about last time I looked Frontline and Advantage are > 2 different products and in both post on both groups I say I use [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>>> repelling fleas. Do any of you have experience you could share >>>> regarding effectiveness in that area? "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> Thank you once again about the links and email. I take Rumble in tomorrow to learn how to do everything and start his treatment. I am nervous about it > "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> > > Thank you once again about the links and email. I take Rumble in tomorrow > to learn how to do everything and start his treatment. I am nervous about > it I understand being nervous about it, but I want to reiterate what I said...that is, diabetes is a serious disease, but it can be treated. Many people have cats that have lived long, healthy lives once they get proper diet and treatment. In fact, cats often return to normal BG levels simply by a change in diet. It sounds frightening to give a cat insulin, but friends who have done it tell me that it is actually a pretty simple process. Be sure to ask your vet about monitoring Rumble's BG at home. It is important to know his blood glucose levels to keep the amount of insulin at the correct dosage. MaryL > You're right, and I apologize. I misinterpreted your message in this > thread. When you said, "always worked for me," I interpreted that as a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > MaryL Allow me to clarify.. I was referring to Advantix, having been given some information that there was a feline product available. I find this is incorrect. With that being said, how does the effectiveness of Advantage rate? I see no claims of repellant properties on the maufacturers website, http://www.nofleas.com/ , so am presuming there really aren't any. I also must ask if there is anything in the formulation of Advantix that makes it unique to dog usage only. With Frontline the only difference between vat and dog formulation is the amount of methoprene. The dog formula contains 2% less. Since the methoprene kills live eggs in the fur, a cat that has been maintained fairly well should have no problems getting adequate protection from a slightly smaller amount of methoprene. I'm not one to experiment with my animals' health, so what is the best route to take? For economics, consider the following. A local pet center sells the same formulation of Frontline as my vet. The cat variety consists of 3 - 1ml ampules for $39.95. The variety for dogs 89-132 lb consists of 3 - 4ml ampules for $53. The treatment can be drawn off in a 1ml syringe and applied with much better control than the plastic ampule. The net result would be 12 applications for the price of 4. Coinsidering that all ingredients are the same and in the same proportions with the exception of the methoprene, is there any risk in using the dog formulation on a cat? Local vets who I suspect to be more worried about sales than liability, stumble and sputter over the question like flatulent Alzheimers patients without giving a straight answer. [snip] > Allow me to clarify.. I was referring to Advantix, having been given some > information that there was a feline product available. I find this is [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > stumble and sputter over the question like flatulent Alzheimers patients > without giving a straight answer. One of the main ingredients in Advantix, permethrin, is toxic to cats. You can google permethrin and cats and get that information. Here are some links I found: http://www.cathelp-online.com/emergency/permethrin.php http://www.vetprof.com/clientinfo/permethrincats.html I use Revolution on my cats. It's expensive, can only be gotten from a vet, but it works. Gail F. Butler to Lao Ma, Ephiny, Minya, Melosa > With that being said, how does the effectiveness of Advantage > rate? I see no claims of repellant properties on the > maufacturers website, http://www.nofleas.com/ , > so am presuming there really aren't any. The only medication I've heard of that doesn't repell fleas before they bite is Program. Program is unique in that it prevents the reproductive cycle of fleas, but has no effect if the animal has an allergy to flea bites. All other pesticides that are safe for pets are supposed to repell them, too. I might be wrong because I don't have outdoor cats, and only have had to use flea treatment when trying to eliminate fleas as an allergen. However, I was told that the only treatment that isn't designed to keep fleas from biting is Program.  SignatureCheryl > I'm considering a switch to Advantix Don't ever, *ever* use Advantix on cats. Advantix contains permethrin which is toxic to cats. Phil |
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