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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / May 2006Ping Nomen Nescio
Hey Nomen Nescio We were talking about the gator attacks here is some more links they think they new attack this week was by a 9 to 10 footer. Alligator Hunting Season Extended In Florida http://www.local6.com/news/9222309/detail.html Gator In Fatal Attack Was As Large As 9 Feet Tenn. Woman Found Inside Gator's Mouth http://www.local6.com/news/9217388/detail.html?treets=orlpn&tid=2653055048813&tm l=orlpn_dailyforecast&tmi=orlpn_dailyforecast_1_04000205162006&ts=H > Hey Nomen Nescio > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Gator's Mouth > http://www.local6.com/news/9217388/detail.html?treets=orlpn&tid=2653055048813&tm l=orlpn_dailyforecast&tmi=orlpn_dailyforecast_1_04000205162006&ts=H Just another excuse for rednecked hicks to kill animals fo doing what animals do naturally... -L. > Just another excuse for rednecked hicks to kill animals fo doing what > animals do naturally... DID YOU EAT A HAMBURGER THIS WEEK? then you aided and ebedded in the killing of an animal im sure they merely tranquilize a gator... same as a cow or pig or a chicken but now fresh lobster? he screams when he hits the bawling water >> Just another excuse for rednecked hicks to kill animals fo doing what >> animals do naturally... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > but now fresh lobster? he screams when he hits the bawling water Don't forget the crabs hop out of the pot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "BulletProof" <bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> >but now fresh lobster? he screams when he hits the bawling water Had a nice 6 pounder for dinner last Friday. He took a hot bath, went to sleep, and was quite tasty. No screams. TK enjoyed his share, also. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Had a nice 6 pounder for dinner last Friday. He took a hot bath, > went to sleep, and was quite tasty. No screams. sure he did, only the cat could hear it didn't you see the expression on TK's face? heh heh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "Matthew aka NMR" <catslave@antispam.com> >Hey Nomen Nescio > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >http://www.local6.com/news/9217388/detail.html?treets=orlpn&tid=2653055048813&t >ml=orlpn_dailyforecast&tmi=orlpn_dailyforecast_1_04000205162006&ts=H Nasty critters. If I wind up moving to Fla., I think I'm gonna make myself an alligator jacket and matching boots. :) How do you hunt those things. Do you spear them? Or can you just pop them in the head with a .357 magnum on the shoreline? I've eaten deep fried 'gator in New Orleans. It's rather tasty with a little hot sauce. I'd bet that sweet & sour 'gator would be delicious. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > with a little hot sauce. > I'd bet that sweet & sour 'gator would be delicious. You have to pierce the brain in a certain spot right behind the eyes or the gator will live same with crocs crocodile Dundee Paul Hogan in his move showed how it was done. gator is delicious the raise it here in Florida on farms gator tail steak is real good when prepared right you can get all along a highway called 40 here in Florida in all the little towns "Matthew aka NMR" <catslave@antispam.com> wrote i: bet that sweet & sour 'gator would be delicious. > You have to pierce the brain in a certain spot right behind the eyes or the > gator will live same with crocs crocodile Dundee Paul Hogan in his move > showed how it was done. gator is delicious the raise it here in Florida on > farms gator tail steak is real good when prepared right you can get all > along a highway called 40 here in Florida in all the little towns There are restaurants in Houston Texas that serve deep fried alligator. I tasted it once. It was just like (yes, I am going to say it!) tough whitemeat chicken. I didn't go back for seconds. > "Matthew aka NMR" <catslave@antispam.com> wrote i: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I tasted it once. It was just like (yes, I am going to say it!) tough > whitemeat chicken. I didn't go back for seconds. That is the problem with deep frying if the cook is inexperienced, not paying attention, not using good oil, the restaurant not changed the oil in awhile; which is almost common practice in the restaurant business or just a shitty cook it ruins the meal. If have found some alternatives to deep frying and you can not tell the difference > That is the problem with deep frying if the cook is inexperienced, not > paying attention, not using good oil, the restaurant not changed the oil in > awhile; which is almost common practice in the restaurant business or just a > shitty cook it ruins the meal. If have found some alternatives to deep > frying and you can not tell the difference Yep, and as with other ways of cooking, overcooking is the most common mistake. I put up my deep fryer years ago. (I mostly used it for catfish and chicken.) What are the alternatives you use? I have tried some "ovenfried" recipes but they are never crispy enough. >> That is the problem with deep frying if the cook is inexperienced, not >> paying attention, not using good oil, the restaurant not changed the oil [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > What are the alternatives you use? I have tried some "ovenfried" recipes > but they are never crispy enough. The alternatives is using different coatings instead of cornmeal try ground up cornflakes in an oven I use it on my onion rings in an oven at 350 comes out just as crispy and not oily Try different oils with your fryer not Extra virgin gets to hot to fast > > Yep, and as with other ways of cooking, overcooking is the most common > > mistake. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 350 comes out just as crispy and not oily > Try different oils with your fryer not Extra virgin gets to hot to fast This is a great topic for rec.food.cooking. :) I added the group. We can take h+b out of the group line in future replies ... > > Just another excuse for rednecked hicks to kill animals fo doing what > > animals do naturally... > > DID YOU EAT A HAMBURGER THIS WEEK? then you aided and ebedded in the > killing of an animal No. I don't eat hamburger. > im sure they merely tranquilize a gator... same as a cow or pig or a > chicken I think they just shoot the gator in the head. Cows and pigs are stunned with a captive-bolt gun or in the case of pigs, sometimes electricity (gee, that's humane - not). Chickens have their heads whacked on a solid surface while hanging upside-down from their feet*. If they duck as they go by, they are dunked in the boiling de-feathering bath while still alive. These reasons and more are why I buy my meat from an individual farmer who kills his own poultry. I only eat chicken and turkey. *This is why you will often buy chickens that have a broken leg. The chicken breaks its leg struggling to get free prior to being sent on the conveyor belt to the head-whacking station. > but now fresh lobster? he screams when he hits the bawling water I don't eat lobster - never would. -L. > > > Just another excuse for rednecked hicks to kill animals fo doing what > > > animals do naturally... Lyn, if a gator was in your backyard and had you cornered and there I am with my shotgun.... and uh... ok.. you see where Im headed with that don't get me wrong, we are sophisticated moon walkers, hell! we've put rovers on mars! we have all sorts of folk who look after the welfare of animals and I agree! if there is a simpler less painful way to handle our business when it comes to DOMINION AND CONTROL of the animal kingdom then Im all for that but back to your original statement! hell yeah! rednecks are gonna have big fun.. -- bout the broken chicken legs we sometimes run across... I've seen that before, but as I remember I find them from carry out fried chickens like bojankles or that finger licking good place...KFC! > Lyn, if a gator was in your backyard and had you cornered > and there I am with my shotgun.... and uh... ok.. you see where Im > headed with that Why would I advocate you shooting a wild animal. Unless a human was in iminent danger, there is no reason to kill it. > don't get me wrong, we are sophisticated moon walkers, hell! we've put > rovers on mars! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > when it comes to DOMINION AND CONTROL of the animal kingdom > then Im all for that Oh please, do not start on the bible thumping. Not all of us are Christian and believe that humans-are-superior bullshit, you know. I suspect you have been reading my commentary to a specific whacko Fundie in rfc. > I've seen that before, but as I remember I find them from carry out > fried chickens > like bojankles or that finger licking good place...KFC! KFC has been cited numerous times for their ill-treatment of chickens. You really should not patronize that chain. -L. > > Lyn, if a gator was in your backyard and had you cornered > > and there I am with my shotgun.... and uh... ok.. you see where Im > > headed with that > > Why would I advocate you shooting a wild animal. Unless a human was in > iminent danger, there is no reason to kill it. you said that already its moot > Oh please, do not start on the bible thumping. Not all of us are > Christian and believe that humans-are-superior bullshit, you know. I > suspect you have been reading my commentary to a specific whacko Fundie > in rfc. no, actually I didn't. probably won't either... what does moonwalking and the bible have in common did you post this thinking I had an opinion about your posts in rfc, cause if you did? I never read em > > I've seen that before, but as I remember I find them from carry out > > fried chickens > > like bojankles or that finger licking good place...KFC! > > KFC has been cited numerous times for their ill-treatment of chickens. > You really should not patronize that chain. you don't like the colonel? further! as I say, I am all for better methods of handling our business however, please don't use in humane and animal in the same sentence it's an axiom of terms but even before I became a christian at the age of 11 yrs old.. 10 really, but almost 11 It doesn't take God or the Bible to teach me that I am above the animals and for the record, A good man, a righteous man sees to the needs of his animals. the wicked are cruel to animals you got some skewed ideas about Christians based on some nuts out there. most of the people on usenet are what most might call normal, why do you engross with the nutjobs once the yellow flags go up.. what's the point in spending any more energy on them I read an article today http://tinyurl.com/h63wc found it doing a google news search, I had seen the headline about monkey and dna on the front page of the times dispatch (richmond newspaper) Here is my super condensed version (long as we're on topic, lol) there was a horrible complicated series of extreme mutations when a creature was split and became two! one was then a female one was a male (this was I think they say inside 6 million years ago) I don't push God on anyone, or post it where it is in-appropriate... however you brought it up, I still can't figure what moonwalking the bible have in common anyway You're a biologist by trade, do you think you came from a monkey? my take on that whole thing is... (if you believe the Bible and stuff about God and all the Holy Prophets, yeah yeah yeah) suppose God was just experimenting suppose there were prototypes or... you know, the more you do something the better you get at it... I don't think! Adam and Eve swam out of a pond, no.. I think they were actually created! but! we find links between DNA that is millions of years old, vs say... 6000 yrs for OUR species most artist have a trademark stroke. I personaly like Monet's technic, and Raphaels so... I said all that to just to sputter and say... it does not suprise me WHY WOULDNT SOMEONE AS INDUSTRIOUS AS GOD have former man-like creatures. I think this is what our scientists are finding. there ARE some gaps in the chain of evolution, but I hope they will fill those empty spots... I am all for discovery and science and looking at things objectively you got this speel from me, because you called me a bible thumper and you don't know crap about me. I am all for treating animals good, and doing away with pain. NEXT! <snippy> > did you post this thinking I had an opinion about your posts in rfc, > cause if you did? > I never read em No, but it was a coinkydink that you used "dominion" as I just gave some Fundie some sh.t for her same bullshit perspective. > > > I've seen that before, but as I remember I find them from carry out > > > fried chickens [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > It doesn't take God or the Bible to teach me that I am above the > animals Oh Barry. That's so pathetic. > and for the record, A good man, a righteous man sees to the needs of > his animals. > the wicked are cruel to animals > > you got some skewed ideas about Christians based on some nuts out > there. Like you? I'm only going on what you post. You've got some skewed ideas about animals based on some antiquated work of fiction... > most of the people on usenet are what most might call normal, why do > you engross with the nutjobs Ok, I'll unsubscribe from this group then...Honestly, all people are nutjobs in their own little ways... > once the yellow flags go up.. what's the point in spending any more > energy on them [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > creature was split and became two! one was then a female one was a male > (this was I think they say inside 6 million years ago) That's not exactly what it says, but whatever... > I don't push God on anyone, or post it where it is in-appropriate... > however [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You're a biologist by trade, do you think you came from a monkey? They tell us that We lost our tails Evolving up >From little snails I say it's all Just wind in sails Are we not men? We are devo! We're pinheads now We are not whole We're pinheads all Jocko homo Are we not men? D-e-v-o Monkey men all In business suit Teachers and critics All dance the poot Are we not men? We are devo! Are we not men? D-e-v-o God made man But he used the monkey to do it Apes in the planet Like a walking robot I can walk like an ape Talk like an ape I can do what a monkey can do God made man But a monkey supplied the glue We must repeat D-E-V-O O.k. let's go! > my take on that whole thing is... (if you believe the Bible and stuff > about God and all the Holy Prophets, yeah yeah yeah) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I think they were actually created! but! we find links between DNA that > is millions of years old, vs say... 6000 yrs for OUR species There are genes in protozoans that are exactly the same as genes in humans. Evolution is very definitely true. Bar, hon, remember, molecular biology was my field. Why do you think I chose that field? > most artist have a trademark stroke. I personaly like Monet's technic, > and Raphaels [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > you got this speel from me, because you called me a bible thumper and > you don't know crap about me. I know you're a Bible thumper. > I am all for treating animals good, and doing away with pain. But you still feel superior to animals.... Think about this: An ameoba does everything, biologically, that you do. But he does it in one single cell. Now tell me who is superior? That's your aura warp for the day. -L. <RIP BULLSHIT> Lyn you never read my damn post! roflmao swing your partner! round you go! - try this one on I am above the animals because we decide their future I can capture every single one of them (there is one that cannot be captured, but he don't bother nobody) the Leviathan gratuatious bible thumping -- I can cookem up, peel'em, boil em, sauté em, deep fried em, stir fry em, skewer them BBQ em, etc... love them, sell them... train them, mail them.. I can do this... in the rain or on a train in a box with a fox in a boat with a goat in a house with a mouse where the floors aint level and ceiling is falling in, haunted by the devil ghost! and boogie men I just don't get your point. do you help any fair treatment groups? Im sure you do, Im not being slamming when I ask that, would be a good way to steer the thread back into the lane so to say > <RIP BULLSHIT> > > Lyn > > you never read my damn post! > roflmao Of course I read it. I responed to it line by line. You just don't like my perceptions. > swing your partner! round you go! > - [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > I just don't get your point. You *can* but SHOULD you? What gives you the right? That's my point. Don't you think the ability to choose makes one more responsible rather than less so? Damn. Little Nipper just deleted the rest of your post. By "fair treatment", do you mean animal welfare? I work for two different ones as a volunteer doing research. And they are primate groups - those protecting your cousins. -L. > But you still feel superior to animals.... Think about this: An > ameoba does everything, biologically, that you do. But he does it in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's your aura warp for the day. care to expand on this a little bit more... I think you really believe it are you taking the one with the universe approach thingy here were all living organizms are interconnected... do you have flowers in your hair just now do you know "tyedye Mary" and... uh.. what's in the bowl bitch > > But you still feel superior to animals.... Think about this: An > > ameoba does everything, biologically, that you do. But he does it in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > care to expand on this a little bit more... > I think you really believe it Of course I believe it. It's true. They ingest, digest, excrete, respirate, reproduce, and do all other biological functions that you do - and they do it in a single cell. > are you taking the one with the universe approach thingy here > were all living organizms are interconnected... That's called the Gaia principle. That's not what I am talking about but of course I believe in it. I wanted to name a daughter Gaia. > do you have flowers in your hair just now Only when I go to San Francisco. > do you know "tyedye Mary" and... > > uh.. what's in the bowl bitch Today the bowl holds roses. I cut 24 today. Amazing. They don't call Portland the City of Roses for nuttin. -L. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "-L." <gentleboa@peacemail.com> >That's called the Gaia principle. That's not what I am talking about >but of course I believe in it. I wanted to name a daughter Gaia. You gotta read James Lovelock's new book "The Revenge of Gaia". It's not available in the US, yet, but will be soon. (I got an advanced copy) I believe it's been released in England. This book is going to send a shockwave through the environmental movement. Bet you didn't think that I read books by "environmentalists". Did you? > > Just another excuse for rednecked hicks to kill animals fo doing what > > animals do naturally... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > im sure they merely tranquilize a gator... same as a cow or pig or a > chicken according to the news, they killed all the alligators they suspected of attacking humans. the same as they kill bears who attack humans. they do not relocate these animals at all. about your hamburger comment. the killing of the animals is the least of it. it's the cruel confinement of most of them where they can barely move. even some big organic combines, like Horizon, don't let the animals range free except in name only and the confined animals don't even know what the ramp is for - that is opened up to them once per week for an hour. the small organic farms do let the animals actually roam in pastures. i have seen them in the middle of the street so i know that it's pretty and true. >about your hamburger comment. the killing of the animals is the least >of it. it's the cruel confinement of most of them where they can barely [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >roam in pastures. i have seen them in the middle of the street so i >know that it's pretty and true. Isn't it strange that there are laws to protect cats and dogs, but treatment of farm animals aren't monitored nearly as well. Seems so hypocritical. Sad. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "-L." <gentleboa@peacemail.com> >Just another excuse for rednecked hicks to kill animals fo doing what >animals do naturally... > >-L. Get a life, Stinky. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >=Izxi >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Hey Nomen. I see your purchase of HP stock has paid off. I'm amazed. I thought they were past all hope. Charlie -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> >Hey Nomen. I see your purchase of HP stock has paid off. I'm amazed. >I thought they were past all hope. > >Charlie Yea, I've done pretty well with that one. I guess my theory is still intact. :) |
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