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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2004older pet cat attacked by feral....help
Out old 17 calico female got out tonight and got attacked by another cat. We interrupted before the feral cat could kill her. She is small, deaf and bit senile I think. It 2am and there is not a vet with emergeny in our area. I grabbed her and brought her in the house and inspected. There were clumps of her fir on the ground at the fight seen. Look like she had a puncture wound in her neck but it had stopped bleeding. She would hiss and growl if we came near her. When she tries to walk, she has much trouble on her back legs although there is no outwordly sign of injury thereImmediately after the fight. After 45 minutes she was not frightened of us any more and we could touch her. She wobbled over to a favorite spot she feels safe in...its dark and confined. We are just letting her rest now and checking every 1/2 hour. She seems to be alert, but just laying with her eyes open. Everyonce in a while will do a pitiful meow and when I appear she stops and settle back down. Im not sure if she is waiting to die or in some sort of cat shock. She wont eat when offered cat snacks. Any experience with this sort of cat shock? PS. how does one trap a feral cat? > Out old 17 calico female got out tonight and got attacked by another cat. > We interrupted before the feral cat could kill her. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > PS. how does one trap a feral cat? Get her to a vet first thing in the a.m. Rest is probably good. She may be terribly sore and just in a bit of shock. Try to keep her warm. Call the shelter and borrow a have a heart trap for the feral cat. Sorry to hear about this. Keep us posted. Karen > When she tries to walk, she has much trouble on her back > legs although there is no outwordly sign of injury The most likely thing - especially after a fight - would be bite injuries. And you'd be surprised at how hard they can be to find. When my older cat was a kitten of 8 months she irritated another cat and there was some furious thrashing and thumping around. From the sounds of them banging about and the young one's resultant limp, I could have sworn her leg was broken. She laid quite still, panting heavily - obviously in pain. The vet found a pair of punture wounds on each side of her leg and concluded from their size that the teeth of the biter penetrated to the point of the teeth meeting. The big problem in bite injuries is infection from saliva borne bacteria. Definitely a case that your vet needs to see as soon as possible. > The big problem in bite injuries is infection from saliva borne bacteria. > Definitely a case that your vet needs to see as soon as possible. So if you really are a cat man, why the hell did you include this group in the line of your crossposted bs? Both the morgue photo and the spam bait? Hmm? It is reasonable for people to want to know if you are here to troll or to discuss cats, I think. Of course "both" is a possible answer. But it cannot be a good idea to troll a group that you also have an interest in beyond disruption, can it? > So if you really are a cat man, And I am >why the hell did you Such an attitude... tsk tsk... > include this group in the line of your crossposted > bs? Both the morgue photo and the spam bait? Could you clarify by what authority anyone here is required to answer to you? > Hmm? It is reasonable for people to want to > know if you are here to troll or to discuss > cats, I think. Then perhaps you should observe..... My experience with cats goes back over a lifetime of having at least one and as many as 3 in my household at any one time. My knowledge of feline ailments and behaviors is the same as most others here - strictly layman level and mostly from personal experience. I'm also the holder of an Ohio Class 1 wildlife rehabilitator permit and deal exclusively with small mammals - rabbits and raccoons exclusively. My activity in that area frees up the time of other rehabbers in the area who have more broad ranging permits to deal with the species of their expertise and preference. Most of the other rehabbers in the area deal with larger animals such as deer and various raptors which are making a stunning comeback in this area. My previous post of links to Sheik Yassin's morgue photos was OT for this group - acknowledged and admitted. My joy at seeing this piece of vermin exterminated got the best of me and resulted in my spreading the good news in places where perhaps I shouldn't have. My apologies are offered along with my pledge to attempt more discretion in future postings. Does this suffice to address your concerns? > > So if you really are a cat man, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Could you clarify by what authority anyone here is required to answer to > you? Asking a question does not imply that anyone is required to answer the question. Think about it. > > Hmm? It is reasonable for people to want to > > know if you are here to troll or to discuss [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > with my pledge to attempt more discretion in future postings. Does this > suffice to address your concerns? Partly. What about the spam bait posts? > Partly. What about the spam bait posts? Personal - not open for discussion. > > Partly. What about the spam bait posts? > > Personal - not open for discussion. Okay. While others may deem you not worth responding to because of your activities in other groups (and the spambait post does amount to a troll post, no debate necessary) if you limit your trolling to other groups I'll consider you an actual cat person. F*ck around in here and all bets are off. I know you probably don't care, but there it is anyway. And that includes even one unmunged address in a reply to someone you don't like. As trolls go, you may be a witty one, and I may actually be entertained by your posts in troll groups like alt.tasteless. But I do like discussing cats here, so I'd hate your crossposting and other bs to result in a flood of crap posts. If you are actually interested in cats, maybe you'd hate it too. > F*ck around in here and all bets are off. I know you probably > don't care, but there it is anyway. Exactly - I don't care. Got a foul mouth on ya, huh? > As trolls go, you may be a witty one, and I may actually > be entertained by your posts in troll groups like alt.tasteless. You haven't a clue about alt.tasteless. Trust me - don't go there....... On second thought - please do :) > But I do like discussing cats here, so I'd hate your > crossposting and other bs to result in a flood of > crap posts. Since you are the one who has taken this thread so far off topic - obviously in the presence of one who has very dire and immediate concerns about an elderly and possibly seriously injured companion - perhaps you would care demonstrate the qualities you wish us to presume you have and offer wisdom, counsel, and advice. I have. The stage is yours. Beyond that - I've offered my meager explanation for what you view as a transgression regarding an OT link. I've quite simply stated the spambait is personal - i.e., none of your business. Do you require anything else? > > F*ck around in here and all bets are off. I know you probably > > don't care, but there it is anyway. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You haven't a clue about alt.tasteless. Trust me - don't go there....... On > second thought - please do :) You ASSume too much, buckwheat. you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in the right group? > > > Partly. What about the spam bait posts? > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > crap posts. If you are actually interested in cats, maybe > you'd hate it too. > you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in the right > group? Strange because I don't demonize "trolls," you think? Well, honey, there are stranger things. Like men who quilt. And stereotype everyone into neat little groups like "likes quilts, okay to like cats, hate trolls." And of course, who is to say that "strange" has a negative connotation? If you take it to mean "abnormal," one need only to recall that the norm are the folks who read the National Enquirer and watch WWF and think both reflect true events. Last I checked the National Enquirer was second in circulation to that paragon of learning called "TV Guide." > > you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in the > right [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the National Enquirer was second in circulation to that > paragon of learning called "TV Guide." Holy sh.t Mary!!! Take a Prozac will ya? Lemmee see if I can reconstruct what *may* have happened here. It's quite likely that quilterhusband may have been thinking of responding to my post, read yours next and hit the reply button not realizing that he was posting a response to your post instead of mine. That's understandable considering that he's been through quite an ordeal over the past day dealing with a beloved and injured feline companion. You then go on to say that men who quilt are strange - a highly personal and subjective observation besides being a needlessly venomous characterization of an individual who posted a very on topic concern. Whether he quilts or not is not an item of concern to those in this group. If you truly feel that the norm 'are the folks who read the National Enquirer and watch WWF and think both reflect true events', then I cheerfully count myself among those outside the 'norm'. BTW - if you can stand the correction on a small point, TV Guide is not a 'paragon of learning' regardless of what status it may have where you are. It is merely a tool for those not fortunate enough to have a decent electronic program guide on their cable or satellite system. I've never bought one or subscribed so do fill me in if I'm missing anything. You are now free to offer your insight and concern to address the issue of the original poster regarding his injured companion. Cat got your tongue? > > > you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in the > > right [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Holy sh.t Mary!!! Take a Prozac will ya? Lemmee see if I can reconstruct > what *may* have happened here. Nobody cares. Quilter husband addressed his post to me and I answered him. Psst ... are you so dense that I have to use smiley faces, for Christ's sake? > It's quite likely that quilterhusband may have been thinking of responding > to my post, read yours next and hit the reply button not realizing that he [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > WWF and think both reflect true events', then I cheerfully count myself > among those outside the 'norm'. Um. YEAH. That was the point. > BTW - if you can stand the correction on a small point, TV Guide is not a > 'paragon of learning' regardless of what status it may have where you are. > It is merely a tool for those not fortunate enough to have a decent > electronic program guide on their cable or satellite system. I've never > bought one or subscribed so do fill me in if I'm missing anything. sarcasm n : witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid" [syn: irony, satire, caustic remark] Source: WordNet ? 1.6, ? 1997 Princeton University You are > now free to offer your insight and concern to address the issue of the > original poster regarding his injured companion. Cat got your tongue? I take it back. I don't think you ARE a particularly bright troll. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) > Nobody cares. Quilter husband addressed his post to me and I answered > him. Nice try at spinning it to suit yourself but it don't play at all. You feel justified in calling someone strange based on nothing more than the content of a screen name. You do this even though his post to 'you' *may* have been misdirected. You make all of your observations about social norms for whatever obscure reason then try to play it off as sarcasm. Sorry - it just doesn't play at all for you to hijack this thread, attack an on topic poster, and then have the unmitigated stupidity to call me a troll while using copy and paste definitions to attempt explanation of your misguided venom. 'Seems that you're the one looking pretty dense here..... I gave as much of an explanation and apology for my previous actions as I felt warranted. You have since made yourself look like a 5 star, blue ribbon horses a.s for persisting in this matter and swinging at everything that moves. Get over yourself - you screwed up jumping quilterhusband and all the spin and footwork in the world won't cover that fact. > > Nobody cares. Quilter husband addressed his post to me and I answered > > him. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > moves. Get over yourself - you screwed up jumping quilterhusband and all the > spin and footwork in the world won't cover that fact. You are such an old lady. :) Fascinating as Mary's and Rob's exchange may be, I, for one, call me simple-minded, would like to know how the cat in question is doing now? Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) > Fascinating as Mary's and Rob's exchange may be, I, for one, call me > simple-minded, would like to know how the cat in question is doing now? > > Candace Posted damned near 12 hours ago. You must have missed it. Allow me: ----- Original Message ----- From: "DanGW04" <DanGW04@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: Re: older pet cat attacked by feral....help > vet said she is in shock, xrays didnt reveal any problem, so nothing > obvioius to point to that says its not all shock related. they gave her > intravenious fluids and she perked up almost immediately they said. However > they did not evaluate the her walking ability. Supposed to call again this > afternoon. They will keep her overnight for sure. We will have to make a > decision either tonight or in morning on her fate if there is nerve damage > of some sort. u are a real freako lady! > > > > you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in > the [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) > u are a real freako lady! *bowing* Thank you, kind sir! Andmay your derive great enjoyment from your TV Guide and get all the answers right in "It Pays To Enrich Your Word Power" in your Reader's Digest, too. P.S. Oh, Robbie, doll, I told you he was talking to me. LOL! strange becuase you use obsene language > > you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in the > right [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the National Enquirer was second in circulation to that > paragon of learning called "TV Guide." > strange becuase you use obsene language Oops! Which part was "obsene?" I see no obscenities. Oh, wait, you must have mean f*ck, right? My apologies. However, I do think that there may be some other cat lovers here who let the "f" word rip every now and then. Not that I CONDONE that or anything. > > > you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in the > > right [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > the National Enquirer was second in circulation to that > > paragon of learning called "TV Guide." your a major bizarro lady...stay away! > > strange becuase you use obsene language > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > > the National Enquirer was second in circulation to that > > > paragon of learning called "TV Guide." > you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in the right > group? I'm just wondering, do you only post as "quilter husband" when you have something nasty to say, Dan G? Just to let you know, your a.s is still hanging out in your headers. Fool. You're like the little kid who runs outside naked with his eyes covered and thinks nobody can see him. Here is a clue for you: if your IP is hanging out, we know it's you. You gave yourself away when you said you were talking about having your cat killed in case she had "nerve damage." What you mean is, in case the vet tells you she needs something you don't want to pay for, right? And why the hell didn't you keep her inside and safe at her age? not sure what your saying weirdo......i know just to stay away... > > you kinda of a strange person for one that likes cats.....you in the > right [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > to pay for, right? And why the hell didn't > you keep her inside and safe at her age? > not sure what your saying weirdo......i know just to stay away... Umm hmmm. So how is your cat, you fraud? Idiot. You posted it here. Coming back and saying "not open for discussion" only exhibits your lack of rational thinking ability. > > Partly. What about the spam bait posts? > > Personal - not open for discussion. I would question your committment to animal welfare, even with your credentials, if you can derive joy from the death of any being, no matter how you may judge their lives. -- L. > > So if you really are a cat man, > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > with my pledge to attempt more discretion in future postings. Does this > suffice to address your concerns? > I would question your committment to animal welfare, even with your > credentials, if you can derive joy from the death of any being, no matter > how you may judge their lives. -- L. Depends on your personal experience and context doesn't it? At risk of going OT again, I'll put it like this: Nursing and nurturing a wild rabbit litter orphaned by human carelessness requires an appreciation for life. When mom gets sucked out of the nest and butchered by a lawnmower, my commitment to seeing days old, hairless infants released a few weeks later as thriving adolescents is job one. Taking pleasure in the extermination of one whose sole mission on this planet was to create and perpetuate an organization devoted to killing and human suffering requires appreciation for human life on a far different and much more discriminating level. To equate one with the other is odious and simply wrong on the most fundamental level. If only humans shared the same spirit of purity and purpose animals have..... Your argument is not at all convincing, and really, given that my opinion of you is only my opinion, it hardly matters, does it? > > I would question your committment to animal welfare, even with your > > credentials, if you can derive joy from the death of any being, no matter [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > simply wrong on the most fundamental level. If only humans shared the same > spirit of purity and purpose animals have..... > Your argument is not at all convincing, and really, given that my opinion of > you is only my opinion, it hardly matters, does it? Not many of Robbie's arguments are very convincing. Poor thing. ;) >I would question your committment to animal welfare, even with your >credentials, if you can derive joy from the death of any being, no matter >how you may judge their lives. -- L. Here we go... another hijacked thread. Jason - let us know how the vet visit went with cat. -mhd vet said she is in shock, xrays didnt reveal any problem, so nothing obvioius to point to that says its not all shock related. they gave her intravenious fluids and she perked up almost immediately they said. However they did not evaluate the her walking ability. Supposed to call again this afternoon. They will keep her overnight for sure. We will have to make a decision either tonight or in morning on her fate if there is nerve damage of some sort. > >I would question your committment to animal welfare, even with your > >credentials, if you can derive joy from the death of any being, no matter [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -mhd > vet said she is in shock, xrays didnt reveal any problem, so nothing > obvioius to point to that says its not all shock related. they gave her [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > decision either tonight or in morning on her fate if there is nerve damage > of some sort. So there is a bite wound?? >vet said she is in shock, xrays didnt reveal any problem, so nothing >obvioius to point to that says its not all shock related. they gave her [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >decision either tonight or in morning on her fate if there is nerve damage >of some sort. Not sure what you mean by fate unless you mean help your cat cope with a disability. -mhd no I mean put to sleep > >vet said she is in shock, xrays didnt reveal any problem, so nothing > >obvioius to point to that says its not all shock related. they gave her [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -mhd > no I mean put to sleep You are awful quick to want to put her down, aren't you. D*ckhead. this person must be a troll. none of you take her seriously do you? Im gonna filter it out. The world will be a better place because of it. > > no I mean put to sleep > > You are awful quick to want to put her down, aren't you. > > D*ckhead. > this person must be a troll. none of you take her seriously do you? > Im gonna filter it out. The world will be a better place because of it. LOL! You are ... busted! Now tell us, did you decide to have your cat put to sleep, Danny boy? Dan -- Don't be so quick to put her down due to nerve damage -- it can take weeks and even months for nerve injuries to heal, as nerve tissue grows very slowly. Please give her adequate recovery time before you make a life and death decision. Thanks -- L. > vet said she is in shock, xrays didnt reveal any problem, so nothing > obvioius to point to that says its not all shock related. they gave her [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > -mhd |
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