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angel.of.death88@gmail.com - 11 Apr 2006 11:09 GMT I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it cost the castration in ireland???
John Doe - 11 Apr 2006 11:22 GMT angel.of.death88@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would > it cost the castration in ireland??? Sorry no direct answer. The last two cats I picked up off of the street had already been spayed/neutered. If you take it off of the street, if it's not fixed, you do a great service that way. But I don't know what your stray cat situation is over there. Here, they are abundant. Have fun.
lastcatstanding - 11 Apr 2006 14:43 GMT jdoe@usenet.love.invalid
Header troll See also UTBill < what ever that is > Wannabe script kiddy Basically a nobody
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"GIT-R-DONE"
> Path: newssvr21.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm04.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!feeder.xsnews.nl!feeder2.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!news.astraweb.com!newsrouter-eu.astraweb.com!hwmnpeer01.ams!hwmedia!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.ams!newsfe22.ams.POSTED!12e9a6c2!not-for-mail > From: lastcatstanding <teandson@hotmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Wannabe script kiddy > Basically a nobody lastcatstanding - 12 Apr 2006 07:07 GMT >An active troll posting XNoArchive much of the time. Apparently the same >that flooded this group. Huh?
>See also: > >Malicious hacker script kiddie >USENET server abuse flood >Denial of Service DOS >UTBill There's that UTBill thing again. I wonder what that means.
>Lamey - The cable guy >... <Getrdone redneck.com> He's a cool dude.
>Jim Dandy Black Oak Arkansas
>Lamey The cable dude?
>Lamey - The Cable Guy Oh OK.
>Lamey B Jovi Yeah. He rocks.
>Lamey The Cable Guy You already said that.
>Lamey The Reformed Troll Lamey? Reformed? Well I guess anything can happen.
>lastbandstanding Good song. By Bon Jovi I believe.
>lastcatstanding What?
>stuipd Viking Yes he is. He hangs in soc.men frothing.
>tedandalice I seen that movie.
>... <teandson hotmail.com> > >. >... <bobandcaraol tedandalice.com> >[likely related, should be "bobandcarole"] You're a real Matlock aint ya cupcake?
>"GIT-R-DONE" Damn Straight!
Aratzio - 12 Apr 2006 14:58 GMT >>An active troll posting XNoArchive much of the time. Apparently the same >>that flooded this group. [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > >Damn Straight! I HACE SEEN UZENEAT POASTS THAT SAY JOO ARE A PEDO!
BEGONE TROLL!
*PLONK*!
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Please ask your admin to be adding alt.aratzio to your news server alt.aratzio Usenet a.shole Aratzio
viking of soc.men in a killer demonstration of irony: Message-ID: <v56d329aier0cgr2ltph4vec0827varcrk@4ax.com> "We all know you are f.cking stuipd, though."
Jim Dandy - 12 Apr 2006 15:19 GMT >>>An active troll posting XNoArchive much of the time. Apparently the same >>>that flooded this group. [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > >*PLONK*! I hace been plonked by a AUKer. I believe that's worse than being STOMPED by viking.
Zach - 13 Apr 2006 14:42 GMT Jim Dandy kissed my a.s and whined:
>>>>An active troll posting XNoArchive much of the time. Apparently the same >>>>that flooded this group. [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >I hace been plonked by a AUKer. I believe that's worse than being >STOMPED by viking. Aratzio couldn't help her self. Its the french blood talking.
angel.of.death88@gmail.com - 12 Apr 2006 11:01 GMT what?? :S
lastcatstanding - 12 Apr 2006 13:58 GMT mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 11 Apr 2006 16:01 GMT Try the RSPCA, Blue Cross, Cats Protection Society, PDSA - one or all of the above do it free - if you're unemployed or get someone who is unemployed to take it to one of the charities.
Sherri - 12 Apr 2006 03:37 GMT > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > cost the castration in ireland??? I dont know about Ireland,but at the animal hosp. I work at its $35.00. I am hoping to visit Ireland one day,its on "this to do before I die list"
mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 12 Apr 2006 19:02 GMT > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > cost the castration in ireland??? > > I dont know about Ireland,but at the animal hosp. I work at its $35.00. > I am hoping to visit Ireland one day,its on "this to do before I die > list" Well if you go to Dublin take lots, and I mean lots, of money - it's really expensive, and I live in London which is supposed to expensive. Also take your own seasoning if you like tasty food, and before every Irish person says I'm wrong, I don't know anyone that has been there and thought the food was nice, looks nice, but no taste.
Sherri - 13 Apr 2006 00:57 GMT > > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Irish person says I'm wrong, I don't know anyone that has been there > and thought the food was nice, looks nice, but no taste. Thank you for the tips :)
Judy - 13 Apr 2006 04:52 GMT > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > cost the castration in ireland??? Why not pick up the phone and call a vet and ask?
IBen Getiner - 13 Apr 2006 10:28 GMT > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > cost the castration in ireland??? Why would you want to sexually mutilate him? I don't understand you people. This is one of the most hurtful things you could ever do to a cat. And you people, many of you claiming to be animal rights enthusiasts, are the first ones to come running to encourage guyz like this. Why do you do this? Why? His ballz are as important to him as your ballz are to you.
IBen
lastcatstanding - 13 Apr 2006 13:58 GMT >> I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it >> cost the castration in ireland??? >Why? His ballz are as important to me as >your ballz are to me. > > IBen You sick pervert.
Sherri - 14 Apr 2006 03:23 GMT > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > IBen to avoid unwanted babies and to keep him from possibly getting cancer
IBen Getiner - 16 Apr 2006 09:52 GMT > > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > to avoid unwanted babies and to keep him from possibly getting cancer If it's an outside cat, I can buy the unwanted babies part. But if he's an inside one, I say definitely no (unless he's got another inside female). Other than that, there is no reason for it. It's just another example of political correctness gone wild. Weak-minded people (sheep, actually) who do what the leaders of the pack say to do simply because they have no faith in themselves and their own judgment. Sound like anyone you know, Cherri...?? As far as the cancer part goes.... Boy.. That's a long stretch. It only goes to show how tough it iz to be a male. But the way I see it, we male mammals have been born with ballz for many years now and things just keep squirting along, producing everything just the way they're supposed to be. Do you not agree...? The doctor gave my wife that same line about cancer when he cut away her ovaries and uterus. She had fibroids and a lotta heavy bleeding. He said the uterus had to go. When asked about why he ripped out the ovaries, he said... "cancer risk". Never once though, did he tell her that she would pay for that for the rest of her life with depression and hot flashes so bad she almost passes out. Endless fatigue. Brittle bones. And no safe treatment for any of it. The only treatment is the f.cking thing that causes the cancer. THIS is what you do to a female cat when you needlessly sterilize her, by the way. Dumb-PC-f.ck. So don't give me you horse-sh.t. You don't know what you're f.cking talking about. Cancer my azz. Taking his ballz away does more damage to him by far. For one thing, he looses his natural male aggression. You know what that is, I'm sure... It's the behavior that you modern mommies mistake for ADD or ADHD or whatever other fictitious disease you devise to make your stupid little worlds make sense.
Now... Don't give me any more of your krap today. Or tomorrow. I'm in the mood to give it but not in the mood to take it.
IBen
lastcatstanding - 16 Apr 2006 17:50 GMT >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > IBen Poor J Young got his a.s handed to him and now he pouts.
< pats JY on head >
There there cupcake.
Sherri - 16 Apr 2006 20:01 GMT > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > There there cupcake. IBen~~~ You poor soul.Here's you krap (AKA crap) for today,and tomorrow.You really need to do your research,you have just made yourself out to look like a foul.
BTW~~~ do you like the smell of male cat pee? I hope so because you (and anyone else that comes into your house) will smell it alot since you love your cats balls.
Oh...... Its SHERRI,not Cherri
Have a good week :)
IBen Getiner - 18 Apr 2006 02:19 GMT > > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > tomorrow.You really need to do your research,you have just made > yourself out to look like a foul. I have DONE my research, Cheryl. What have you done other than to utter something as stupid as katz get kancer if allowed to keep their nuts? I'll bet your the kind that hates every vestage of nuts everywhere, don't you, Cheryl? LOL..!
> BTW~~~ do you like the smell of male cat pee? I hope so because you > (and anyone else that comes into your house) will smell it alot since > you love your cats balls. Buttshit. My kat uses the LiTtEr BoX, Cheryl. And we use GoOd LiTtEr, Cheryl. ot sawdust. So once again, CHERYL, you have proven yourself to be a DITZ.
> Oh...... Its SHERRI,not Cherri Okay, Cheryl. I'll try to remember that. Can't promise anything, though.
> Have a good week :) Rubbish..
IBen Getiner
lastcatstanding - 18 Apr 2006 03:45 GMT >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > IBen Getiner Jon Young gets slapped again.
Sherri - 19 Apr 2006 00:52 GMT > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > Jon Young gets slapped again. LOL!!!! Thanks for the laugh IBen
IBen Getiner - 19 Apr 2006 05:19 GMT > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > LOL!!!! Thanks for the laugh IBen What caused your irrational hatred of nutz, Cherry...? A difficult time with Daddy, perhaps..?
IBen
lastcatstanding - 19 Apr 2006 06:19 GMT >> > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it >> > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > IBen That would do it.
Sherri - 20 Apr 2006 02:51 GMT > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > > IBen Nope, everything is fine with Daddy. I dont hate nutz,but I do love getting you all tensed up :)
Have a good day :))
Sherri,Cherri, Cheryl,Cherry or whatever........
IBen Getiner - 20 Apr 2006 04:58 GMT > > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > > Nope, everything is fine with Daddy. Good... That is very good. But does he know that?
> I dont hate nutz, Then where-oh-where did you get the inane idea that nutz are bad or can lead to kancer?
> but I do love > getting you all tensed up :) You think that was tensed up? I swear to God, there's one born every minute... I was simply expressing my displeasure with your idiocy, Cherril. That's not "tensed up". I'll never reach for a drink when dealing with one such as you. Only a dictionary.. So I can keep coming up with new adjectives that describe your particular breed of moronic insanity a little better. Always my pleasure, you see....
> Have a good day :)) I'm a nocturnal-person. When the day arrives, I am soundly asleep in my kasket. Right next to my nocturnal kat and nocturnal wife...
> Sherri,Cherri, Cheryl,Cherry or whatever........ Okay, Sherri
IBen Getiner
lastcatstanding - 20 Apr 2006 06:41 GMT >> > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it >> > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] >I'm a nocturnal-person. When the day arrives, I am soundly asleep in my >kasket. Right next to my nocturnal kat and nocturnal wife... Translation: I'm passed out from cheap vodka, obsessing on usenet, and have no job.
>> Sherri,Cherri, Cheryl,Cherry or whatever........ > >Okay, Sherri > > IBen Getiner IBen Getiner - 21 Apr 2006 04:23 GMT > >> > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > >> > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 111 lines] > Translation: I'm passed out from cheap vodka, obsessing on usenet, and > have no job. No... I rarely drink vodka (but when I do, you'd better believe it ain't the cheap stuff)... I spend less than one hour a day on the net average... and for the exception of one week, I have been actively employed in the same field continuously since 1972! Now.... I want to know the answer to my question. Where-oh-where did you get the inane idea that nutz are bad or can lead to kancer? It'z YOUR subject. You brought it up. I'd like to know, since you're so keen on research and all. Put Daddy's picture down and answer the question, CHERRY.
IBen Getiner
> >> Sherri,Cherri, Cheryl,Cherry or whatever........ > > > >Okay, Sherri > > > > IBen Getiner lastcatstanding - 21 Apr 2006 07:57 GMT >> >> > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it >> >> > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] >> > >> > IBen Getiner 1 You been getten nothing. 2. I'm not Sherry. 3. Jon Young spend more time then that on the innernet. Get it?
Sherri - 21 Apr 2006 02:21 GMT > > > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] > > IBen Getiner LOL @ IBen
IBen Getiner - 21 Apr 2006 04:32 GMT > > > > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > > > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 116 lines] > > LOL @ IBen Oh, no...no...no...no.no. You can't get rid of ol' IBen that easily. We're pals now. Bosom buddies! You responded to me, Sheri, and now we're BEST FRIENDS! I want to know the answer to my question! Where-oh-where did you get the inane idea that nutz are bad or can lead to kancer? It'z YOUR subject. You brought it up. I'd like to know, since you're so keen on research and all. Put Daddy's picture down and answer the question, CHERRY.
IBen Getiner
lastcatstanding - 21 Apr 2006 07:58 GMT >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it >> > > > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > > IBen Getiner Jon Youngs obsession noted. You really are super torll aint ya cupcake?
Sherri - 21 Apr 2006 23:51 GMT > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > > > > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > > IBen Getiner Intacted males have a higher chance of getting cancer,do believe me? Call a vet and ask.
IBen Getiner - 22 Apr 2006 00:27 GMT > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I'm gettin a cat soon, a male one. Does any1 know how much would it > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > cost the castration in ireland??? [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] > Intacted males have a higher chance of getting cancer,do believe me? > Call a vet and ask. NO... I don't believe you. How can you prove that testicles caused it? And even if it were true, I must ask... What are the percentages? Is it worth de-maling our kats across the board just because some half-baked kook said so? We don't have to live with the results of sexual mutilation. Our cats do...
IBen
lastcatstanding - 22 Apr 2006 07:40 GMT >> Intacted males have a higher chance of getting cancer,do believe me? >> Call a vet and ask. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > IBen J Young makes an a.s of himself again.
Sherri - 22 Apr 2006 23:13 GMT > >> Intacted males have a higher chance of getting cancer,do believe me? > >> Call a vet and ask. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > IBen > J Young makes an a.s of himself again. Yeah, he did didnt he. He's just to scare to call a vet and ask. And even if he get the NUTZ to call one,he wouldnt come back and post he that he was wrong.Its a lost cause,he is one of those people that can see the truth when it slaps them in the face.We'll just have to pray that one day he'll take the time to really study up on his cats and help them live long safer lives.
Have a great weekend :)
Sherri - 22 Apr 2006 23:49 GMT > >> Intacted males have a higher chance of getting cancer,do believe me? > >> Call a vet and ask. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > IBen > J Young makes an a.s of himself again. Are You that dum to think that I dont read other topics? If you have a problem with me, fine but try to trash my name! Intact males have a higher chance of getting testicle/prostate cancer then neuter males! Why dont you get it ?!? Please someone tell this jerk I'm not making this up.I work for 3 vets, geez Iben.......call a vet and ask!! Neutering eliminates testicular cancer and decreases the incidence of prostate disease. Just like spaying a female eliminates the possibility of uterine or ovarian cancer and greatly reduces the incidence of breast cancer, particularly when your pet is spayed before
her first heat.
Sherri
IBen Getiner - 23 Apr 2006 01:10 GMT > IBen Getiner wrote: > > Anybody ever had a kat who's nuts gave him cancer? She says it happens [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Are You that dum to think that I dont read other topics? I don't know what you read, but I know what you do... You put out deceptive responses to the opinions of others that you don't agree with.
> If you have a > problem with me, fine but try to trash my name! But you refuse to acknowledge my questions, Cherry.. I'm very sorry, but I was force to look elsewhere for my answers.
> Intact males have a > higher chance of getting testicle/prostate cancer then neuter males! What kind of KRAP is that...?? That's like saying that people who skydive are more likely to die because their parachute failed to open than people who don't skydive!
> Why dont you get it ?!? Please someone tell this jerk I'm not making > this up.I work for 3 vets, geez Ben.......call a vet and ask!! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sherri Yes, but these same acts cause many other problems. When you cut out the ovaries of a woman, she suffers from many other adverse ailments. Some are so bad that many of these women have told us that they wish they'd never had the surgery done... That they wish they had never listened to their doctor. And since cats are indeed mammals who are almost exactly the same as humans physically, what would make you think (think, mind you... NOT feel) that they could not suffer a similar fate? I tried to tell you this over at the other group, but all you did was scathe me with ridicule! You produced no facts to defeat my point of view, but you did take the time to ridicule it. So now you have your chance to set the record straight. And don't tell me things like 'male cats without testicles are less likely to develop testicular cancer'. If that's all you got on the cancer issue, then you should never have brought it up back there. It was done in a deceptive fashion BY YOU, simply to ridicule me on my point of view. I say again... It is dangerous and WRONG to subject any inside cat to such a needless and pointless operation upon their little persons simply because people like YOU say that it's the right and PC thing to do. And It's a JOKE to try to justify the removal of a cat's reproductive organs on the grounds that they MAY get cancer of these types, 'so let's just remove them all'. The total numbers of afflicted kats couldn't possible amount to numbers sufficient to warrant such drastic, invasive, across-the-board action. YOU are a knee-jerk reactionary, Sherrie. And you really should know better....
IBen
IBen Getiner - 24 Apr 2006 07:19 GMT > > IBen Getiner wrote: > > > Anybody ever had a kat who's nuts gave him cancer? She says it happens [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > IBen Sherri..... Where are you...?
LOL...!!
Let this gentle little thrashing be a lesson to you. To you and ANY who would challenge me without the GUTS to stand their ground and back it up. And let ALL HERE SEE that you have none. You're the one who attempted to ridicule and insult me because you didn't like my opinion. I never did this to you. Remember...?? Take this azz-tanning and LEARN from it. Learn to keep it SHUT the next time you feel the urge to be in control of things beyond your control. Daddy should have taught you this if he never taught you anything else....
IBen
Sherri - 24 Apr 2006 23:04 GMT > > > IBen Getiner wrote: > > > > Anybody ever had a kat who's nuts gave him cancer? She says it happens [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > > IBen I'm here, sorry I have a life and dont stay online all the time
I proved my point, and believe me..........I got the guts to stand up to you
Your turn
IBen Getiner - 25 Apr 2006 06:28 GMT Cherri wrote:
> I'm here, sorry I have a life and dont stay online all the time > > I proved my point, and believe me..........I got the guts to stand up > to you > > Your turn
> > Anybody ever had a kat who's nuts gave him cancer? She says it happens > > but she won't produce any facts. She (like all the other knee-jerk PC [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > fast out so she told me a lie. That's about the size of it. That's what > > I believe. Anybody got any proof?
> > IBen Getiner
> Are You that dum to think that I dont read other topics? I don't know what you read, but I know what you do... You put out deceptive responses to the opinions of others that you don't agree with.
> If you have a > problem with me, fine but try to trash my name! But you refuse to acknowledge my questions, Cherry.. I'm very sorry, but I was force to look elsewhere for my answers.
> Intact males have a > higher chance of getting testicle/prostate cancer then neuter males! What kind of KRAP is that...?? That's like saying that people who skydive are more likely to die because their parachute failed to open than people who don't skydive!
> Why dont you get it ?!? Please someone tell this jerk I'm not making > this up.I work for 3 vets, geez Ben.......call a vet and ask!! > Neutering eliminates testicular cancer and decreases the incidence of > prostate disease. Just like spaying a female eliminates the > possibility of uterine or ovarian cancer and greatly reduces the > incidence of breast cancer, particularly when your pet is spayed before
> her first heat.
> Sherri Yes, but these same acts cause many other problems. When you cut out the ovaries of a woman, she suffers from many other adverse ailments. Some are so bad that many of these women have told us that they wish they'd never had the surgery done... That they wish they had never listened to their doctor. And since cats are indeed mammals who are almost exactly the same as humans physically, what would make you think (think, mind you... NOT feel) that they could not suffer a similar fate? I tried to tell you this over at the other group, but all you did was scathe me with ridicule! You produced no facts to defeat my point of view, but you did take the time to ridicule it. So now you have your chance to set the record straight. And don't tell me things like 'male cats without testicles are less likely to develop testicular cancer'. If that's all you got on the cancer issue, then you should never have brought it up back there. It was done in a deceptive fashion BY YOU, simply to ridicule me on my point of view. I say again... It is dangerous and WRONG to subject any inside cat to such a needless and pointless operation upon their little persons simply because people like YOU say that it's the right and PC thing to do. And It's a JOKE to try to justify the removal of a cat's reproductive organs on the grounds that they MAY get cancer of these types, 'so let's just remove them all'. The total numbers of afflicted kats couldn't possible amount to numbers sufficient to warrant such drastic, invasive, across-the-board action. YOU are a knee-jerk reactionary, Sherrie. And you really should know better....
IBen
lastcatstanding - 25 Apr 2006 07:52 GMT >> > > IBen Getiner wrote: >> > > > Anybody ever had a kat who's nuts gave him cancer? She says it happens [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > >Your turn He may clone into Jon Young and edit yer post. BEWARE!
Sherri - 25 Apr 2006 23:40 GMT > > > > IBen Getiner wrote: > > > > > Anybody ever had a kat who's nuts gave him cancer? She says it happens [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > Your turn Ben~~~ I work for a animal hospital and see lots of cases of cancer, do you work in one to? I see it,I don't care what the static's are........it happens! I does NOT happen everyday, sometimes months and months apart. But watching a animal die and watching the owners cry their eyes out has really made me push the issuse. I to was once like you and didnt believe. Anyway, this topic is old and boring now. What else shall we fight about?
IBen Getiner - 27 Apr 2006 05:41 GMT > > > > > IBen Getiner wrote: > > > > > > Anybody ever had a kat who's nuts gave him cancer? She says it happens [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > Ben~~~ I work for a animal hospital and see lots of cases of cancer, Prove it.
> do you work in one to? I'm your co-worker, but I'll never tell...
> I see it, When I use drugs, I see things too.
> I don't care what the static's > are........it happens! Yes... This much is quite clear... I am a person of reason while YOU are a person of feeeeeelings. Of course you don't care what the facts are. You're a wacked out button-pusher. A truth-revisionist. Well let me tell you something, Missy... Numbers never lie. But YOU do.
> I does NOT happen everyday, sometimes months and > months apart. So you're telling me then that all cat owners of male cats should violate their little persons in such an unspeakable manor without giving it so much as a second thought?? Well I'm a male and I have ballz and I beg to differ. Boy kitties (being smaller versions of us mammals) are no different than me in this department. They enjoy being tom-kats That's they whole point in them living! People like YOU would change all that, simply because you're a freaked-out, over-emotional woman. It's your type of person who has the kids of this entire country hepped up on Riddelin for an imaginary disease, simply because you do not understand boyhood. You're a male's worst nightmare and you don't even know it, Merrie..
> But watching a animal die and watching the owners cry > their eyes out has really made me push the issue. So why not push having their legs removed? Everybody knows that kats getting killed on the highway rates right up there near the top for kitty fatalities... What's the big problem here? I mean, there's got to be far more numbers in the kitty-by-the-roadside department than the insignificant cause that you're championing...!
Answer the question, Cherry. DEAR.
>I to was once like > you and didn't believe. So you got religion? Great. Just don't try to visit it upon my cats.
> Anyway, this topic is old and boring now. > What else shall we fight about? We only differ on this point. At least, that's all I know about right now. And why are we only debating here? There's those other two groups that I called you out in... The ones where you came in running and screaming about your reputation... Trying to snuff out a spark like it was YOUR azz that was burning up or something. Let's debate in those as well...
IBen
IBen Getiner - 27 Apr 2006 05:42 GMT > > > > > IBen Getiner wrote: > > > > > > Anybody ever had a kat who's nuts gave him cancer? She says it happens [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > Ben~~~ I work for a animal hospital and see lots of cases of cancer, Prove it.
> do you work in one to? I'm your co-worker, but I'll never tell...
> I see it, When I use drugs, I see things too.
> I don't care what the static's > are........it happens! Yes... This much is quite clear... I am a person of reason while YOU are a person of feeeeeelings. Of course you don't care what the facts are. You're a wacked out button-pusher. A truth-revisionist. Well let me tell you something, Missy... Numbers never lie. But YOU do.
> I does NOT happen everyday, sometimes months and > months apart. So you're telling me then that all cat owners of male cats should violate their little persons in such an unspeakable manor without giving it so much as a second thought?? Well I'm a male and I have ballz and I beg to differ. Boy kitties (being smaller versions of us mammals) are no different than me in this department. They enjoy being tom-kats That's they whole point in them living! People like YOU would change all that, simply because you're a freaked-out, over-emotional woman. It's your type of person who has the kids of this entire country hepped up on Riddelin for an imaginary disease, simply because you do not understand boyhood. You're a male's worst nightmare and you don't even know it, Merrie..
> But watching a animal die and watching the owners cry > their eyes out has really made me push the issue. So why not push having their legs removed? Everybody knows that kats getting killed on the highway rates right up there near the top for kitty fatalities... What's the big problem here? I mean, there's got to be far more numbers in the kitty-by-the-roadside department than the insignificant cause that you're championing...!
Answer the question, Cherry. DEAR.
>I to was once like > you and didn't believe. So you got religion? Great. Just don't try to visit it upon my cats.
> Anyway, this topic is old and boring now. > What else shall we fight about? We only differ on this point. At least, that's all I know about right now. And why are we only debating here? There's those other two groups that I called you out in... The ones where you came in running and screaming about your reputation... Trying to snuff out a spark like it was YOUR azz that was burning up or something. Let's debate in those as well...
IBen
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