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Dennis Carr - 28 Mar 2004 04:28 GMT
A general rule, as I have read, is that bad breath is a harbinger of
illness in your cat in one form or another.  

But here's the thing - what should I be smelling for?

It's granted that my cats are probably never going to have minty fresh
breath as they seem to have an aversion to my  tin o' Altoids, so smelling
for anything can be a not-so-pleasant experience as a general rule.  As
such, is there a characteristic odor that one could keep an eye.... well,
a *nose* rather, out for, and if it's anything specific (oppose the 101
things wrong by one sign), what it could mean?

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McQualude - 28 Mar 2004 07:12 GMT
Dennis Carr <ke6isf@spamcop.net> said:

> A general rule, as I have read, is that bad breath is a harbinger of
> illness in your cat in one form or another.  
>
> is there a characteristic odor that one could
> keep an eye.... well, a *nose* rather, out for

I don't know about cats, but I can tell when my kids are sick before they
show symptoms, just by the 'sick' smell on their breath. I can't describe
it but once you smell it, you'll know it. Cats are probably no different.
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MIKE - 28 Mar 2004 12:52 GMT
A cat's breath would normally smell "fishy" after they have eaten.  When
Amber lost a tooth however, her breath was foul from a foot away.  She
needed dental work.    

                 -MIKE
Karen Chuplis - 28 Mar 2004 13:39 GMT
> A cat's breath would normally smell "fishy" after they have eaten.  When
> Amber lost a tooth however, her breath was foul from a foot away.  She
> needed dental work.
>
> -MIKE

And a sweetish smell could indicate diabetes.

Karen
MacCandace - 28 Mar 2004 17:55 GMT
<< And a sweetish smell could indicate diabetes.

Karen >>

And an ammonia smell would probably be CRF...although I think it has to be
pretty advanced for that to occur.  My CRF kitty never had that.

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Dennis Carr - 28 Mar 2004 21:52 GMT
> And an ammonia smell would probably be CRF...although I think it has to be
> pretty advanced for that to occur.  My CRF kitty never had that.

Actually, considering how hazardous ammonia is, if you smell that, your
cat may already be dead from CRF.

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Cathy Friedmann - 28 Mar 2004 21:56 GMT
> > And an ammonia smell would probably be CRF...although I think it has to be
> > pretty advanced for that to occur.  My CRF kitty never had that.
>
> Actually, considering how hazardous ammonia is, if you smell that, your
> cat may already be dead from CRF.

When you take a suspected CRF cat into the vet, that's one of the first
things the vet does - sniffs the cat's breath for the ammonia odor.

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Brandy??Alexandre - 28 Mar 2004 22:44 GMT
Cathy Friedmann <clfr@adelphia.net> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>> > And an ammonia smell would probably be CRF...although I think
>> > it has to
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>
> Cathy

Couldn't pay me to deliberately sniff a cat's breath.  ;)  I get enough
involuntarily as it is.

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m. L. Briggs - 29 Mar 2004 06:41 GMT
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "Brandy  Alexandre"
<brandy@kamikaze.orgy> wrote:

>Cathy Friedmann <clfr@adelphia.net> wrote in
>rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
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>Couldn't pay me to deliberately sniff a cat's breath.  ;)  I get enough
>involuntarily as it is.

A healthy cat should not smell bad.
Dennis Carr - 29 Mar 2004 03:01 GMT
> When you take a suspected CRF cat into the vet, that's one of the first
> things the vet does - sniffs the cat's breath for the ammonia odor.

I did not know that....

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Laura R. - 07 Apr 2004 04:20 GMT
circa Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:01:01 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Dennis Carr (ke6isf@spamcop.net) said,
> > When you take a suspected CRF cat into the vet, that's one of the first
> > things the vet does - sniffs the cat's breath for the ammonia odor.
>
> I did not know that....

Oh, most definitely. The first thing every vet does upon seeing Jacob
is to stick his or her nose in Jacob's mouth and take a snootful. I
always feel sorry for them until I catch myself doing the same thing
at home. :-)

Laura
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Laura R. - 07 Apr 2004 04:18 GMT
circa 28 Mar 2004 16:55:29 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
MacCandace (maccandace@aol.comlitter) said,

> And an ammonia smell would probably be CRF...although I think it has to be
> pretty advanced for that to occur.  My CRF kitty never had that.

I can always tell when Jacob's tummy is unsettled, because his breath
has a distinctive smell- it's not ammonia, nor acetone as I've also
heard CRF breath described. It's more of a urea smell, IIRC. One of
my old vets (before I moved) told me that only fifty percent of
people are able to smell whatever it is that Jacob's breath will
smell of (she could), so I guess I'm a "smeller". I just can't recall
if she said that the smell was urea or something else.

Laura
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McQualude - 29 Mar 2004 05:12 GMT
twinmountain@webtv.net (MIKE) said:

> A cat's breath would normally smell "fishy" after they have eaten.  When
> Amber lost a tooth however, her breath was foul from a foot away.  She
> needed dental work.  

What if the cat ate chicken poop, would it still smell fishy?
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m. L. Briggs - 29 Mar 2004 02:05 GMT
>A general rule, as I have read, is that bad breath is a harbinger of
>illness in your cat in one form or another.  
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>a *nose* rather, out for, and if it's anything specific (oppose the 101
>things wrong by one sign), what it could mean?

A decayed tooth will give the cat bad breath and you certainly will
know it.  Also, any sore inside the mouth will give a bad odor.
 
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