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Is my 2 yr old Cat going to hurt my puppy?

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Carolyn Dee - 03 Apr 2006 13:46 GMT
Help, if anyone has ANY advice here....
If anyone can help I'm really upset about this....we got a new puppy
yesterday, a little black toy female weighing in at 4 lbs - 11 weeks old and
loves to play.  My 2 year old neutered cat  Max is very bold with her,
nuzzling her under her neck and underbelly.  Does he see her as prey?  I'm
worried sick he will hurt her!!
Barb - 03 Apr 2006 16:05 GMT
IMO if Max's tail isn't all fluffed out and he isn't growling or spitting
he's probably pleased as punch with the little puppy.

--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.
Carolyn Dee - 03 Apr 2006 17:30 GMT
Ahhhh...what a relief to hear that!
I'm just concerned that he's putting his open mouth around the back of pup's
neck and then reaching down and around to get the front of his neck...?
Also the underbelly...would that be grooming or disembowelling behaviour ?
Worried mom!

>IMO if Max's tail isn't all fluffed out and he isn't growling or spitting
>he's probably pleased as punch with the little puppy.
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>Of course I don't look busy,
>I did it right the first time.
PawsForThought - 03 Apr 2006 16:07 GMT
> Help, if anyone has ANY advice here....
> If anyone can help I'm really upset about this....we got a new puppy
> yesterday, a little black toy female weighing in at 4 lbs - 11 weeks old and
> loves to play.  My 2 year old neutered cat  Max is very bold with her,
> nuzzling her under her neck and underbelly.  Does he see her as prey?  I'm
> worried sick he will hurt her!!

I highly recommend researching into the proper way to introduce the
puppy to your cat.  Remember, in your cat's mind, the puppy is an
outsider.  Try to introduce them in such a way that the cat sees the
puppy as his.  I don't think the cat will hurt him, but they should
absolutely be supervised when they're together.  Please try to give Max
plenty of love and attention while he gets used to the puppy.
Carolyn Dee - 03 Apr 2006 17:19 GMT
Okay....so how does one suggest to the cat that the puppy is "his"????
I did the introduction thing carefully, but she is so happy and affectionate
and rambunctious (all 4 lbs of her!)
...really HOW would he thinks the pup is HIS?

>> Help, if anyone has ANY advice here....
>> If anyone can help I'm really upset about this....we got a new puppy
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>absolutely be supervised when they're together.  Please try to give Max
>plenty of love and attention while he gets used to the puppy.
m_kelbell@sbcglobal.net - 03 Apr 2006 19:07 GMT
Check out this link on the best way to introduce your cat and puppy:

http://www.homevet.com/petcare/petmeet.html

Stay in the same room with them until your sure their getting along.  If the
cat is bothered by the dog, normally the cat will just jump on something or
hide where the puppy can't get to him.

It really sounds like Max just wants to play with the puppy.  They can
become good friends if you read and apply the suggestions above.

Now this is my experience with cats and new dogs:

You need to keep an eye on them the first week or so - if Max is cornered by
the puppy or feels threatened he may scratch the puppy's nose.  Now this
isn't a big problem,  the scratch is painful but usually just a minor cut -
doesn't even bleed - Max is just teaching the puppy some manners.

But if the puppy doesn't stop and leave the cat alone, Max could scratch at
his eyes.
This is one of a cats last lines of defense against an attacking dog, and it
is instinctive.

But if they've been together for several days with no problems, its probably
safe to leave them on their own.

My cats never attacked the dogs.  One dog did get his nose scratched once -
but he learned to leave the cats alone if they didn't want to be bothered.
Eventually they would let my toy poodle join in their chase games.  One cat
would even sleep on the same chair as the poodle.

By the way - its easier to introduce a puppy or kitten to established
animals than to bring in a full grown animal.

-- maryjane

> Help, if anyone has ANY advice here....
> If anyone can help I'm really upset about this....we got a new puppy
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> nuzzling her under her neck and underbelly.  Does he see her as prey?  I'm
> worried sick he will hurt her!!
Carolyn Dee - 03 Apr 2006 19:21 GMT
Thanks much, I will read on with that website suggestion.
One other thing.  Poor little Max (cat)was found by us when he was only a few
days old, almost dead after abandonment by his mother....he's never had
siblings or another other playful pets.  
Is there still hope?

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>Check out this link on the best way to introduce your cat and puppy:
>
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>> nuzzling her under her neck and underbelly.  Does he see her as prey?  I'm
>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
m_kelbell@sbcglobal.net - 03 Apr 2006 21:46 GMT
Of course,  just be patient and give them both time to get used to each
other.
Remember, Max has 'ruled the roost' in your house for a while -- so be sure
to give him lots of extra loving now that he's having to adjust to a
sibling.

My dogs and cats were behaving well together in 2-3 weeks (I could leave
them alone together earlier, but they were still pretending the other
animals didn't exist.)
It took a few months for playing together, sharing the chair etc.

Max will 'train' your puppy how to behave around him.  Its always easier to
introduce a puppy/kitten to an older pet.  But it sounds like Max's really
interested in having a new friend.

--- maryjane

> Thanks much, I will read on with that website suggestion.
> One other thing.  Poor little Max (cat)was found by us when he was only a
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>>> I'm
>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
Carolyn Dee - 04 Apr 2006 14:46 GMT
What a difference a day makes...I'm so proud of my cat Max, I always knew he
was a good boy and a great cat but he's so patient and good with her I'm
amazed.  She hasn't tested him too much, her little teeth are very sharp and
when she uses them on him he will let her know he doesn't like it.  He has
been bored and I actually got this little dog for him, so it's working out
well it seems, he's figured out now that he can constantly watch her from up
high and she can't get there.  Lots of time though he can't resist getting
right in there.  She's going non-stop and that could wear a cat out!
Thanks!

wrote:
>Of course,  just be patient and give them both time to get used to each
>other.
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>>>> I'm
>>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
Joe Canuck - 04 Apr 2006 15:01 GMT
> What a difference a day makes...I'm so proud of my cat Max, I always knew he
> was a good boy and a great cat but he's so patient and good with her I'm
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> right in there.  She's going non-stop and that could wear a cat out!
> Thanks!

Re the "going non-stop"... and older cat could lose patience and strike
out when they get annoyed which could happen very quickly.

Be cautious, this isn't over yet.

>  wrote:
>> Of course,  just be patient and give them both time to get used to each
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>>>>> I'm
>>>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
Carolyn Dee - 04 Apr 2006 15:40 GMT
Yup...my daughter reports that they are rolling around on the floor now.
The cat has his arms around it and is doing the donkey kick thing...(gently
as usual).
I wonder when he'll lose patience...he's having too much fun for now!

>> What a difference a day makes...I'm so proud of my cat Max, I always knew he
>> was a good boy and a great cat but he's so patient and good with her I'm
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>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
xkatx - 04 Apr 2006 18:02 GMT
> Yup...my daughter reports that they are rolling around on the floor now.
> The cat has his arms around it and is doing the donkey kick
> thing...(gently
> as usual).
> I wonder when he'll lose patience...he's having too much fun for now!

We were in a similar situation when we got a small puppy about a month ago,
and our cat is just over a year and a half old... I find that if the cat
gets annoyed with the dog, she simply goes away.  She does play with him and
he plays with her, but when she's had enough, she's still faster and able to
avoid him if she needs or wants.

>>> What a difference a day makes...I'm so proud of my cat Max, I always
>>> knew he
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>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
Charlie Wilkes - 05 Apr 2006 03:28 GMT
>Yup...my daughter reports that they are rolling around on the floor now.
>The cat has his arms around it and is doing the donkey kick thing...(gently
>as usual).
>I wonder when he'll lose patience...he's having too much fun for now!

He won't seriously injure the puppy.  He knows its a baby.  This
sounds like a situation where the cat is really, really happy to have
another animal in the household.  Pamper them both and they will feel
secure and all will be bliss.

Charlie

>>> What a difference a day makes...I'm so proud of my cat Max, I always knew he
>>> was a good boy and a great cat but he's so patient and good with her I'm
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>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
Carolyn Dee - 05 Apr 2006 13:32 GMT
Well now we've moved to another stage it seems....they really aren't
interacting much from what I've seen in the evenings.  
The puppy goes nuts trying to play for a minute here and there.  The cat
prefers to watch from afar.  I'm wondering if I'm missing all the fun during
the daytime  when I have to be at work (family members who are home in
daytime, after working at night....are lucky to see a lot more activity!)....
in the evenings after 5pm puppy mostly sleeps it seems, oh well lots of time
to cuddle the cat....  I'm looking forward to the weekend.  

>>Yup...my daughter reports that they are rolling around on the floor now.
>>The cat has his arms around it and is doing the donkey kick thing...(gently
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>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
Charlie Wilkes - 05 Apr 2006 17:17 GMT
>Well now we've moved to another stage it seems....they really aren't
>interacting much from what I've seen in the evenings.  
>The puppy goes nuts trying to play for a minute here and there.  The cat
>prefers to watch from afar.  I'm wondering if I'm missing all the fun during

Sure.  I have two "guest dogs" and a resident cat.  My cat is somewhat
unusual in that he likes dogs, even strange dogs, and takes an
interest in them.  But, he doesn't make a fuss over them most of the
time.  The interaction is more subtle than the interaction between two
dogs.  

Charlie

>the daytime  when I have to be at work (family members who are home in
>daytime, after working at night....are lucky to see a lot more activity!)....
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>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
Carolyn Dee - 05 Apr 2006 17:59 GMT
Yes I know what you mean....when kitty was 6 months old he was very
interested in all the dogs, going right up to their noses to say hello.  Then
I took him over to the tiny kitties cage....well he hissed at them and there
was no way I could convince him to change his mind!  Cats are funny.

>>Well now we've moved to another stage it seems....they really aren't
>>interacting much from what I've seen in the evenings.  
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>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>> worried sick he will hurt her!!
 
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