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Seeking Hospice/Foster Care For Aging Cat

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S.L. Althaus - 25 Mar 2004 23:41 GMT
HELP!  I have called every source (spca/animal welfare groups/pet
shops) imaginable trying to find a home for my 18 year old cat Willi.
We are moving into a house that just is not set up for his regular
incontenance near the scratch box and hair balls.  The ole boy is
still in pretty good shape considering his hyperthyroid condition
(controlled by a pill a day) and upset stomach (Pepcid twice a day).
He loves to eat, drink and sleep.  And he loves to sleep on top of me.
I will pay for his food and vet bills. I just want a good home for
his last year(s).  We live in Richmond, VA. Anyone have any
suggestions?
Karen - 26 Mar 2004 00:01 GMT
Hello???? YOu are going to give away your EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD CAT???? Now,
this really is sad. Just plain sad.  Throw him away because he is old and
doesn't "fit in". Sad. Sad. Sad.

> HELP!  I have called every source (spca/animal welfare groups/pet
> shops) imaginable trying to find a home for my 18 year old cat Willi.
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> his last year(s).  We live in Richmond, VA. Anyone have any
> suggestions?
~*Connie*~ - 26 Mar 2004 02:43 GMT
> Hello???? YOu are going to give away your EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD CAT???? Now,
> this really is sad. Just plain sad.  Throw him away because he is old and
> doesn't "fit in". Sad. Sad. Sad.

it is sad, but sometimes it has to be done.  The poster is obviously trying
to do right by the cat, offering to pay for medical bills.  Would have been
more appropriate for you to offer suggestions instead of criticism.
Karen Chuplis - 26 Mar 2004 03:13 GMT
>> Hello???? YOu are going to give away your EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD CAT???? Now,
>> this really is sad. Just plain sad.  Throw him away because he is old and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to do right by the cat, offering to pay for medical bills.  Would have been
> more appropriate for you to offer suggestions instead of criticism.

Sorry, but this is one instance in which I do not see it "having to be
done". THis is an OLD cat with little time left and it's basically being
abandonned from the people it knows because of incontinence. Please.

Karen
Meghan Noecker - 26 Mar 2004 12:48 GMT
>>> Hello???? YOu are going to give away your EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD CAT???? Now,
>>> this really is sad. Just plain sad.  Throw him away because he is old and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>done". THis is an OLD cat with little time left and it's basically being
>abandonned from the people it knows because of incontinence. Please.

I saw an article in a magzine suggesting this very idea as a good
idea. I was really quite stunned that anybody would want to give up
their  companion or that the magazine would suggest it as a good idea.

But, as horrible as it sounds, I bet a lot of people read the article,
and thought it was a great idea, and recommended by people who know
better.

The only way my cats are leaving me before they die is over my dead
body (literally). And I will do my best to be holding them when they
take their final breath. I certainly would not desert them in their
greatest time of need. I owe them far more than I could ever give
them. They have given me so much over the years.

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Nomen Nescio - 27 Mar 2004 08:40 GMT
From: friesian@zoocrewphoto.com (Meghan Noecker)

>The only way my cats are leaving me before they die is over my dead
>body (literally). And I will do my best to be holding them when they
>take their final breath. I certainly would not desert them in their
>greatest time of need. I owe them far more than I could ever give
>them. They have given me so much over the years.

I'm baffled as to how anyone could NOT feel that way!
My little sweetheart started having bladder control problems at age 18.
After the vet said it was just an "age" thing, we got some pads (the bed
wetter thingys) to put in the places she liked to sleep on, including her
favorite corner of our bed (she was leaking in her sleep). She wasn't thrilled
about it but learned that this was where she was supposed to sleep. We went
through a lot of pads for a few months and got her to exercise the muscles
that control the peeing, using play and a little wrestling. A few months later
the leaking stopped and she lived another two years without a problem.
There was just NO WAY we could lock her away, somewhere.
Meghan Noecker - 27 Mar 2004 09:51 GMT
>From: friesian@zoocrewphoto.com (Meghan Noecker)
>
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>
>I'm baffled as to how anyone could NOT feel that way!

It puzzles me too, but a lot of people feel it is too difficult. Many
people cannot be in the room when their cat or dog is euthanized. And
many can't bear to watch the suffering of their friend. So, they take
the easy way out. Unfortunately, I don't think it is the easy way in
the long run. You can't go back and change it.

When I was 9 years olds, my parents opted to put down my dog when I
was at a soccer game. They felt it would be too hard for me. I felt so
guilty because I barely said hi to her that morning. I had no idea
what was going to happen, and she was buried before i got home. My
parents meant well, but it really left me feeling horrible about
myself and how I didn't show her enough love. I don't know when, but I
realized it wasn't my fault on that occasion, but I would do my best
never to let that happen again.

I have two goals that I work hard at, especially as they get older.
One, I want to be there when they die. I want them to know just how
much I love them, and that I am there to comfort them in their time of
need. Two, I want them to always feel loved and appreciated and
special. Maynard is my oldest now. He'll be 18 in June. I feed him
special treats everyday, partly to keep his weight up, and partly to
keep him in the mindset of being extra special. While I expect him to
be around for at least a few more years (he really is doing quite
well, with only a bad day here and there). But if he should drop dead
today, I know his last day will have been a good one. Unless I am
leaving for work, I won't get up if he is snuggling on my lap. I give
him lots of treats and lots of special time. He also gets a lot of
extra patience, and while his extra meowing can be annoying, I know it
is one of the things that I will miss when he is gone.

>My little sweetheart started having bladder control problems at age 18.
>After the vet said it was just an "age" thing, we got some pads (the bed
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>the leaking stopped and she lived another two years without a problem.
>There was just NO WAY we could lock her away, somewhere.

My second dog would lose control after going down the stairs to my
bedroom. So, we just kept the door shut, and made sure she went
outside before going downstairs. There were some accidents, but I
cleaned them up.

Kira used to get sick when I would go out of town overnight.
Especially if it was more than one night. And she always got sick on
the bed. A lovely thing to come home to.

So, what I did was really easy. I bought a vinyl tablecloth and put it
over the bed fuzzy side up. Then, on top, I put a couple small throw
blankets. She had something nice to sleep on. When I got home, I could
just roll the tablecloth and throws into a ball, toss them in the
laundry room, and go to bed in a nice clean bed with a happy cat. No
anger, no fuss, no problem. The tablecloth gets washed the next day
and is ready to be used during the next abcess. There is no need for
anybody to get upset, and she still gets something nice to sleep on.
After a few years, she stopped getting sick, and I quit using it. But
I still have it. If somebody gets sick or incontinent later, I can get
it back out. They are pretty cheap, and do the job very well.

Meghan & the Zoo Crew  
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Wendy - 27 Mar 2004 15:57 GMT
> >From: friesian@zoocrewphoto.com (Meghan Noecker)
> >
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> extra patience, and while his extra meowing can be annoying, I know it
> is one of the things that I will miss when he is gone.

Extra meowing? For a particular reason or do older cats do this?

Reason I ask is Tiggy has been more vocal lately for no apparent reason (she
doesn't seem to be asking for anything in particular - just meows)

And YAY! she's back in the bedroom with no accidents (or intentionals) for
about a week now. She hasn't been sleeping with us but that isn't
particularly unusual for this time of year with the temperature warming up.

W
Mary - 27 Mar 2004 18:29 GMT
> Extra meowing? For a particular reason or do older cats do this?

My Gnarly did, and the vet told me a lot of older cats
do this because they are getting "dotty." It is a way of
reassuring themselves. Also, they might be getting a little
hard of hearing. There are lots of reasons, aside from
the usual hypothyroidism etc.

> Reason I ask is Tiggy has been more vocal lately for no apparent reason (she
> doesn't seem to be asking for anything in particular - just meows)

I used to think it was just "I'm HEEEERE and I don't FEEEEEL
so good, I'm kind of LONELEEEE and GRUMMMMPY,
YOU THERE????? Got some food? Scratches?
Something?"

> And YAY! she's back in the bedroom with no accidents (or intentionals) for
> about a week now. She hasn't been sleeping with us but that isn't
> particularly unusual for this time of year with the temperature warming up.
>
> W
Meghan Noecker - 28 Mar 2004 08:27 GMT
>Extra meowing? For a particular reason or do older cats do this?
>
>Reason I ask is Tiggy has been more vocal lately for no apparent reason (she
>doesn't seem to be asking for anything in particular - just meows)

It seems to be pretty common in older cats. Could be some senility. He
seems to want somebody to call him and give him extra love.

I'm a bit irritated with him right now, I had a nice plate of chicken
wings. Gave him one, managed to eat 3, and he pawed at the plate and
dumped the whole thing. So much for having dinner. I was planning to
share, but I did intend to eat more than 3 pieces.

Meghan & the Zoo Crew  
Equine and Pet Photography
http://www.zoocrewphoto.com
Mary - 27 Mar 2004 18:24 GMT
> From: friesian@zoocrewphoto.com (Meghan Noecker)
>
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> the leaking stopped and she lived another two years without a problem.
> There was just NO WAY we could lock her away, somewhere.

Congratulations. You are a top-notch human being.
-L. : - 27 Mar 2004 00:25 GMT
> > Hello???? YOu are going to give away your EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD CAT???? Now,
> > this really is sad. Just plain sad.  Throw him away because he is old and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to do right by the cat, offering to pay for medical bills.  Would have been
> more appropriate for you to offer suggestions instead of criticism.

You and every pet owner owes it to their animals to see them through
their aged years.  Abandoning this cat is not unlike sending Grandma
to an unfamiliar nursing home.  I would never do it, and the reason
the OP stated for it is lame.  Euthanasia would be more kind.

-L.
Mary - 26 Mar 2004 00:02 GMT
>We are moving into a house that just is not set up for his regular
>incontenance near the scratch box and hair balls

There are alternatives. You could get him a big cage with his litter box, food,
water, bed in there You could then take him out to hangout and nap say an hour
after each meal so he won't pee in the house. You could also give him hairball
medication. I doubt you'll find anyone who will take care of your old cat for
you. Your cat would also be happiest with you. You owe it to your cat to make
his last days happy.
Gail - 26 Mar 2004 02:34 GMT
Yes, either a large crate of a room of his own with litter box, water, bed,
and his food. Please don't abandon him now.
Gail
> >We are moving into a house that just is not set up for his regular
> >incontenance near the scratch box and hair balls
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> you. Your cat would also be happiest with you. You owe it to your cat to make
> his last days happy.
Mary - 26 Mar 2004 00:55 GMT
> HELP!  I have called every source (spca/animal welfare groups/pet
> shops) imaginable trying to find a home for my 18 year old cat Willi.
> We are moving into a house that just is not set up for his regular
> incontenance near the scratch box and hair balls.  The ole boy is
> still in pretty good shape

If you plan to get old, you had better watch your *ss. What goes
around comes around, know what I'm saying?
m. L. Briggs - 26 Mar 2004 02:33 GMT
>HELP!  I have called every source (spca/animal welfare groups/pet
>shops) imaginable trying to find a home for my 18 year old cat Willi.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>his last year(s).  We live in Richmond, VA. Anyone have any
>suggestions?

A kindhearted soul like you should be happy to care for your own
18year old companion.  May I suggest a large dog crate big enough to
accommodate his needs?  I cannot imagine anyone but you will take care
of him.
Barb - 26 Mar 2004 21:12 GMT
Now, let's get real, here.  We all live in houses and when our own cats
become incontinent we will figure some way to continue to care for them
because we love them more and more as they age.  But for you to expect that
someone else will volunteer to take your cat under these circumstances is a
little much although not totally out of the question.

I suggest to you a child's playpen turned upside down which would be roomy
enough for a cozy little bed and some water, food and litter.  Then time
each day  you take the cat out for some visiting time.  Most cats that age
do a lot of sleeping anyway and if he knows he is coming out every day
around the same time it will give him a quality of life.

--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.
Wendy - 26 Mar 2004 23:02 GMT
> Now, let's get real, here.  We all live in houses and when our own cats
> become incontinent we will figure some way to continue to care for them
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> --
> Barb

They do have diapers for cats - in spiffy navy blue.

http://www.joybies.com/pagecat.html
m. L. Briggs - 26 Mar 2004 23:52 GMT
>Now, let's get real, here.  We all live in houses and when our own cats
>become incontinent we will figure some way to continue to care for them
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>do a lot of sleeping anyway and if he knows he is coming out every day
>around the same time it will give him a quality of life.

so  -  never thought of a playpen.unds like a good idea
Cat Protector - 27 Mar 2004 02:47 GMT
How can you just give away your cat like this especially a cat that is 18
years of age? I have to wonder why you are not going to take him with you?
Moving into a new home is a pretty weak excuse for getting rid of a cat. In
fact that seems to be a big one used by humans who have simply dropped their
cat off at the shelter. Please tell us you aren't going to adopt another cat
in the future.

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> HELP!  I have called every source (spca/animal welfare groups/pet
> shops) imaginable trying to find a home for my 18 year old cat Willi.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> his last year(s).  We live in Richmond, VA. Anyone have any
> suggestions?
Barb - 27 Mar 2004 20:35 GMT
How can you just give away your cat like this especially a cat that is 18
years of age? I have to wonder why you are not going to take him with you?
Moving into a new home is a pretty weak excuse for getting rid of a cat. In
fact that seems to be a big one used by humans who have simply dropped their
cat off at the shelter. Please tell us you aren't going to adopt another cat
in the future.

Better not have babies, either.
--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.
S.L. Althaus - 28 Mar 2004 07:37 GMT
For the creative ideas regarding how to keep Willi with us after the
move, I thank the folks who contributed.  For the other comments
questioning my integrity and ability to raise pets and children, well
I braced myself before posting, knowing full well that, regardless of
how I presented my situation, I was going to get blasted by some.  It
was the price I would pay for asking for advice.

Thanks again for the suggestions and farewell.

---Sheryl
Annie Wxill - 28 Mar 2004 21:01 GMT
...> Thanks again for the suggestions and farewell.

> ---Sheryl

I hope you will let us know what you decided to do.  If some of the
suggestions worked for you, maybe they would work for someone else in a
similar situation.
Best wishes,
Annie

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