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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2006howwwwwwwwwwwwwwllllllllllllllllllll!!!!
: / > : / Hmmm?  SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.blogspot.com/ > > : / > > Hmmm? Expression of general angst. Either that or a thyroid problem. Carry on. or lack on good sex or the batteries ran out I suggest plug in ;-) :-o > or lack on good sex or the batteries ran out I suggest plug in ;-) :-o Winky winky my a.s, Matthew. >: [ Not everything is about sex! ok lack of good sleep or a good night out making you feel like you are the most important person in the word You need breakfast in bed served by a non gay male stripper in a French maid outfit >> or lack on good sex or the batteries ran out I suggest plug in ;-) :-o > > Winky winky my a.s, Matthew. >: [ Not everything is about sex! > Not everything is about sex! Speak for yourself. ;) ;) ;) SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.blogspot.com/ > > Not everything is about sex! > > Speak for yourself. ;) ;) ;) Okay, only for those of you who have very interesting lives! > > Not everything is about sex! > > Speak for yourself. ;) ;) ;) Diane? nooooooooooooo I just can't believe it I can believe it but... never mind >> > Not everything is about sex! >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >never mind Diane has a Jurassic Beaver. She needs de-fossilizing cream. Charlie > or lack on good sex or the batteries ran out I suggest plug in ;-) :-o don't preach to me about respect no more! does your wife know how you talk to other women she was the one that said it >> or lack on good sex or the batteries ran out I suggest plug in ;-) :-o > > don't preach to me about respect no more! > does your wife know how you talk to other women > she was the one that said it NO, I did not! Someone else is always bringing up sex, I always say "It is not always about sex," then someone says I brought it up. Let's look at the THREAD, boys. Jaysus. > >> or lack on good sex or the batteries ran out I suggest plug in ;-) :-o > > > > don't preach to me about respect no more! > > does your wife know how you talk to other women I didn't say you he asked if my wife knew what I said I told him it was her comment Easy girl Down there little one Ok looking at the thread it tells me I need new socks >> she was the one that said it > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > don't preach to me about respect no more! >> > does your wife know how you talk to other women > she was the one that said it Diane said it yep Who is Diana ?????????????????????????? >> she was the one that said it > > Diane said it > > yep > Who is Diana ?????????????????????????? D. alrighty >> Who is Diana ?????????????????????????? > > D. > alrighty >> >>> Who is Diana ?????????????????????????? >> >> D. I'm just laughing at the fact that cybercats 'howl' thread has more posts than the other serious ones..... >> > : / >> >> Hmmm? > > Expression of general angst. Either that or a thyroid problem. Carry on. Or deafness or senility..... huh what I could not hear you <old fart moment> >>> > : / >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > Or deafness or senility..... > >> > : / > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Or deafness or senility..... Yes! Were I a cat. And I wish I was. Lay around in the sunshine, eat all I want, no bills to pay, never have to work like a dog ... :) No thumbs and too short so you wouldn't even think of ASKING me to do the dishes ... No housework, some geeky chick with a broom and dustpan tidying up after me ... I could go on and on. > No housework, some geeky chick with a broom and dustpan tidying > up after me . Have you been watching my Webcam? SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.blogspot.com/ > > No housework, some geeky chick with a broom and dustpan tidying > > up after me . > > Have you been watching my Webcam? heh ... yours and mine both, if I had one. They Who Must Be Served look up at me with one eye open if I make any noise cleaning, like "can't you be a little quieter, I am trying to get a little rest here." >> >> > : / >> >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > No housework, some geeky chick with a broom and dustpan tidying > up after me ... I could go on and on. Oh, wouldn't that be the life! > > Yes! Were I a cat. And I wish I was. Lay around in the sunshine, eat all I > > want, no bills to pay, never have to work like a dog ... :) No thumbs and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Oh, wouldn't that be the life! Really, they have great lives, at least the indoor kitties do. >> > Yes! Were I a cat. And I wish I was. Lay around in the sunshine, eat >> > all [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> > Really, they have great lives, at least the indoor kitties do. Huh!! Let's just say that if there's one tin of tuna left, I'm not the one that gets to eat it.... What is a tin of tuna. I haven't had a full can of tuna in years it is like they know the difference in a soup can, their cat food can and than the tuna can. Ever see that Mcdees commercial where the guy sleeps thru everything and than the wife opens a breakfast bag and he is instantly there. I could be doing that with the tuna can look down no cats start the can openers look down all cats looking at me with that look where is mine. >>> > Yes! Were I a cat. And I wish I was. Lay around in the sunshine, eat >>> > all [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Huh!! Let's just say that if there's one tin of tuna left, I'm not the one > that gets to eat it.... > What is a tin of tuna. I haven't had a full can of tuna in years it is > like they know the difference in a soup can, their cat food can and than [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > doing that with the tuna can look down no cats start the can openers look > down all cats looking at me with that look where is mine. I call it the 'that's my tuna you're eating' look >>>> > Yes! Were I a cat. And I wish I was. Lay around in the sunshine, eat >>>> > all [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> Huh!! Let's just say that if there's one tin of tuna left, I'm not the >> one that gets to eat it.... I call it put it in my dish now look with out the please to go with it. or the how dare you not have me a dish ready yet I tell you it is a conspiracy they know I tell you they know :-) >> What is a tin of tuna. I haven't had a full can of tuna in years it is >> like they know the difference in a soup can, their cat food can and than [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> Huh!! Let's just say that if there's one tin of tuna left, I'm not the >>> one that gets to eat it.... I swear mine can read. Yesterday I decided to test their language skills, and called out 'chicken' there was a stampede I tell you!!! >I call it put it in my dish now look with out the please to go with it. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>>> Huh!! Let's just say that if there's one tin of tuna left, I'm not the >>>> one that gets to eat it.... My rumble knows what color his treat bags are and the difference in brand when he wants a certain one he picks the bag up and drops it in front of me. if one is unopened he gets the bag he wants and drops it in front on me. I swear they know >I swear mine can read. Yesterday I decided to test their language skills, >and called out 'chicken' there was a stampede I tell you!!! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>>>> Huh!! Let's just say that if there's one tin of tuna left, I'm not the >>>>> one that gets to eat it.... wow!! That is one smart cat!! > My rumble knows what color his treat bags are and the difference in brand > when he wants a certain one he picks the bag up and drops it in front of [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>>>>> Huh!! Let's just say that if there's one tin of tuna left, I'm not >>>>>> the one that gets to eat it.... > > > : / > > > > Hmmm? > > Expression of general angst. Either that or a thyroid problem. Carry on. And here I thought you were reading Alan Ginsberg... -L. > > > > : / > > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And here I thought you were reading Alan Ginsberg... > -L. I remember that ... "the best minds of my generation ..." As I recall, when I looked into the so-called "beat" poets, I liked Ferlinghetti, Patchen and Bukowski better than Ginsberg. > I remember that ... "the best minds of my generation ..." As I recall, > when I looked into the so-called "beat" poets, I liked Ferlinghetti, > Patchen and Bukowski better than Ginsberg. Corso: http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/409 Ferlinghetti published some of his work. Why do you say "so-callled" beat poets? I don't particularly like Ginsberg either - but he's one of the better-known. I can't hear the word "Howl" without thinking of him. Funny how the brain works, that way. -L. > > I remember that ... "the best minds of my generation ..." As I recall, > > when I looked into the so-called "beat" poets, I liked Ferlinghetti, > > Patchen and Bukowski better than Ginsberg. > > Corso: http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/409 Gregory Corso is who I meant--who I was trying to think of when I said "Ferlinghetti," though I did like Ferlingetti's "Coney Island Of The Mind." Didn't Corso write, "Should I get married? Should I be good? Surprise her with my velvet cape and Faustus hood?" He was great. > Ferlinghetti published some of his work. Why do you say "so-callled" > beat poets? Because it was a term that referred to a certain clique but left out major poets of the same generation such as Kenneth Patchen and Charles Bukowski. Both of the latter were way too prolific, with 1 gem for many so-so poems. But in my opinion both outshined Ginsberg and, especially, Kerouac for whom (I think?) the term "beat" was coined. (I am foggy, it has been a long time.) > I don't particularly like Ginsberg either - but he's one of the > better-known. I can't hear the word "Howl" without thinking of him. > Funny how the brain works, that way. Yep. I might have to break down and find a couple of really good examples of why I love Patchen and Bukowski one of these nights and post them! (Bukowski was, admittedly, a pretty disgusting human being and a major sexist. But he had these moments, in his work. Patchen was a truly good man.) Okay, I remember the first poem I ever saw by Bukowski that bowled me over. I was in my teens when I found this old book in a junk shop. I Cannot Stand Tears by Charles Bukowski (nineteen-sixty-something) There were several hundred fools around the goose that broke its leg Trying to decide what to do When the guard walked up and pulled out his cannon And the issue was finished. Except for a woman who ran out of a hut, claiming he'd "killed her pet." Well the guard rubbed his straps and told her "Kiss my a.s. Take it to the president. The bird was crying and I cannot stand tears." I folded my canvas and walked further up the road. The bastards had ruined my landscape. ***************************************** (Poetry is nothing if not subjective, but for me,this is a great commentary on human "sensitivity.") >Okay, I remember the first poem I ever saw by Bukowski that bowled me over. >I was in my teens when I found this old book in a junk shop. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >(Poetry is nothing if not subjective, but for me,this is a great commentary >on human "sensitivity.") Yeah. Bukowski was a character. He was more a self-styled literary figure than a literary artist, but he could write. This is really a prose vignette broken into lines, but it's very telling. I have already mentioned in this group about the time I was in LA and there was a mouse squirming on a glue trap in the graphics dept. The girls put a wastebasket over it so they didn't have to look. I went to the supply cabinet and got one of those manilla folders, and put the trapped mouse in it, and crushed it with my shoe. After that the girls called me "the psycho." I didn't care, and I played into the joke, but they were waiting for B&G to come take care of the problem, and meanwhile that poor fuckin animal was crying in pain and fear. Charlie > Yeah. Bukowski was a character. He was a pig with a capital "P." He once said, "There are a lot of obnoxious characters working their way into immortality. I'm working on it myself. >He was more a self-styled literary > figure than a literary artist, but he could write. He was a poet. Yes he was a writer. Before all the recent hype, he was a poet's poet, just him and the old typewriter, the beer, the booze, the whores, fresh California oranges and avocados and the horses. It was not until the 1980s that the "literary persona" was born, with the help of a bunch of half-witted college punks who thought Bukowski was all about "f.ck it, man. Just f.ck it." Check out "The Twins," from an anthology called "Burning In Water, Drowning in Flame." Great early stuff he wrote in the 1960s. > This is really a prose vignette broken into lines, but it's very > telling. It's poetry. Where you bean? :) Blank verse, whatever it is called. Very cutting edge when he started out. > I have already mentioned in this group about the time I was in LA and > there was a mouse squirming on a glue trap in the graphics dept. The [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > problem, and meanwhile that poor fuckin animal was crying in pain and > fear. Yep, you get it. :) I can usually count on you to. Another great work of his: an underground newspaper out of Berkeley in the 60s called "Notes of a Dirty Old Man." The columns, with had names like "Politics is Like Trying to Screw a Cat in the a.s" were collected into a book once entitled boldly across a grainy photo of Bukowski's face "Erections, Ejaculations, Exhibitions and General Tales of Ordinary Madness." I note that in the last twenty years it new editions have been renamed "General Tales of Ordinary Madness." A great story in there: "Shot a Man in Reno." I fell in love with Bukowski's writing as a young teenager, but always knew I never wanted to meet him because he was a pig--I may have felt differently if I were a man. Maybe not. >> Yeah. Bukowski was a character. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >It's poetry. Where you bean? :) Blank verse, whatever it is >called. Very cutting edge when he started out. It's surely not blank verse. Shakespeare wrote in blank verse. But, you can style it as free verse and no one can argue because the rules don't really exist. I would call it prose disguised as poetry, which is what I think of a lot of poetry from the past 90 years or so. World War I is the great dividing line. BUT, there are people who know far more than I do, who would vigorously dispute many of my views. >> I have already mentioned in this group about the time I was in LA and >> there was a mouse squirming on a glue trap in the graphics dept. The [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >but always knew I never wanted to meet him because he was >a pig--I may have felt differently if I were a man. Maybe not. That title is what I mean when I describe Bukowski as a self-styled literary persona. He tried to communicate what it ~feels~ like to be a writer, the way Feynman tried to communicate what it ~feels~ like to be a physicist. Which is not to say that Bukowski wasn't a good writer or that Feynman wasn't a good physicist. Both had their craft well in hand. Charlie > >It's poetry. Where you bean? :) Blank verse, whatever it is > >called. Very cutting edge when he started out. > > It's surely not blank verse. Shakespeare wrote in blank verse. But, > you can style it as free verse and no one can argue because the rules > don't really exist. Hee! BUSTED! I always confused the two terms, "blank verse" and "free verse." *hanging my head* I think I even missed them on tests. >I would call it prose disguised as poetry, which > is what I think of a lot of poetry from the past 90 years or so. > World War I is the great dividing line. BUT, there are people who > know far more than I do, who would vigorously dispute many of my > views. I just like powerful words. Even better if they have some built-in rhythm. Actually, Cummings was good at that, despite his annoying "anti-convention" conventions like the lower case. While I appreciate "craft" very much (and I am discussing my betters in all of even the worst examples I might give) I do think beautiful and true (or just artful) things can be said without relying too much on artificial form. "Iambic pentameter," etc. (That's the only term I recall, Muhaha!) That said, I am a major Edgar Allan Poe freak and I even like ... hold on to your gag reflex ... T. S. Eliot. > That title is what I mean when I describe Bukowski as a self-styled > literary persona. He tried to communicate what it ~feels~ like to be > a writer, the way Feynman tried to communicate what it ~feels~ like to > be a physicist. Which is not to say that Bukowski wasn't a good > writer or that Feynman wasn't a good physicist. Both had their craft > well in hand. Ahh, I see. I am going to save that up and think about it tomorrow when my poor little brain is not so shriveled. :) > > That title is what I mean when I describe Bukowski as a self-styled > > literary persona. He tried to communicate what it ~feels~ like to be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ahh, I see. I am going to save that up and think about it tomorrow > when my poor little brain is not so shriveled. Well, I thought about it and just want to say, "Yep." Excellent observation. I had not realized that, but thinking back, it really is true. . > Corso: http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/409 > > Ferlinghetti published some of his work. Oh, and point taken that Ferlinghetti was primarily a publisher, but he also wrote poetry. > > : / > > Hmmm? 7 yr itch > > > : / > > > > Hmmm? > > 7 yr itch I am afraid that one has passed. All my itches are presently scratched, thank you. I just enjoy a good howwwwwwwllllllll every now and then. You should try it. |
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