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Kitkat - 24 Mar 2004 06:21 GMT
Now that I'm out of lurk mode...I've got a question.

Anyone else out there allergic to their kitties but choose to suffer like I do?

curious,
Pam

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Mary - 24 Mar 2004 07:05 GMT
> Now that I'm out of lurk mode...I've got a question.
>
> Anyone else out there allergic to their kitties but choose to suffer like I do?
>
> curious,

Yep. Had one cat age 15 or so when diagnosed. Now have two. Claritin
otc works just fine for me.
Meghan Noecker - 24 Mar 2004 09:18 GMT
>Now that I'm out of lurk mode...I've got a question.
>
>Anyone else out there allergic to their kitties but choose to suffer like I do?

I'm not allergic to cats, but I am allergic to my dog, a nice long
haired sheltie, who sleeps on my bed next to me.

I was diagnosed at age 5, but I already had a dog by then. I'd much
rather suffer the allergies than give up the animals. I just put up
with the sneezing and blowing my nose. I do sort of have a built iup
immunity. Just usually a good blow in the morning, and I'm okay. I do
have to wash the bedding more when she's shedding, and I learned the
hard way not to brush her on the bed.

Now, I did have a good example. My mom is allergic to both cats and
dogs, and we have always had both since before I was born. She gets
allergy shots once a month to keep hers under control.

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Cat Protector - 24 Mar 2004 20:30 GMT
I think a better thing to say is allergic to the dander and not the cat
itself. I hate it when people say they are allergic to cats. It makes it
look like they blame the cat when it isn't even their fault.

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Kitkat - 24 Mar 2004 23:25 GMT
>I think a better thing to say is allergic to the dander and not the cat
>itself. I hate it when people say they are allergic to cats. It makes it
>look like they blame the cat when it isn't even their fault.<

Who is assigning blame? Obviously, the many of us who choose to have pets
despite our allergies certainly arent laying "fault" on anyone.

Its not just their dander, either. You can be allergic to their urine and
saliva.

Silly semantics, if you ask me.

Pam

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Meghan Noecker - 25 Mar 2004 03:03 GMT
>>I think a better thing to say is allergic to the dander and not the cat
>>itself. I hate it when people say they are allergic to cats. It makes it
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>Its not just their dander, either. You can be allergic to their urine and
>saliva.

I have to agree. I've never blamed my animals for my defective
respiratory system :)

I'm on my third dog now, and both two and 3 have been long haired,
plenty of shedding fur shelties. I love fluffy dogs, so I will
continue to have them. I have every intention of having at least 1 dog
in the house at all times. Preferably two or 3 so that they have a
buddy of their own kind to play with.

My mom is allergic to both cats and dogs and I don't think I have ever
heard her complain about the animals. She's the one that started us
down this road. My dad, the one without allergies, is the non-pet
person, and he has grown to love them too.

Now, the real problem is that my mom gave me allergies (almost
anything in the air will qualify), and my dad gave me a small throat,
so I have a lovely system.

You should have seen me at horse farms a few years ago. I'm allergic
to hay as well as dust, mold, pollen, trees, grass, weeds, etc. So,
when I was at photographing the horses (my small business), I woudl be
going through kleenex like crazy. The embarassment of people feeling
sorry for me was much worse than the actual allergies.

Since then, I have found a couple things that help clear up most of
it, so I only have minor blowing. And I always carry tylenol,
including chewable for when I am out in the field. So, I can head off
a headache before it really gets started.

Overall, I find those allergies to be far worse than the daily
exposure to my dog. She just makes me blow my nose in the morning and
clear my throat.

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Cat Protector - 25 Mar 2004 17:16 GMT
It is assigned every time a person says they are allergic to their cat. It
is the dander itself not the cat.

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> Who is assigning blame? Obviously, the many of us who choose to have pets
> despite our allergies certainly arent laying "fault" on anyone.
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Kitkat - 25 Mar 2004 23:51 GMT
>It is assigned every time a person says they are allergic to their cat. It
>is the dander itself not the cat.

The cat produces the dander, right? The cat produces the saliva and the urine.

anyhow...
pam,
who definitely doesnt "blame" her cats

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Cat Protector - 26 Mar 2004 09:36 GMT
But I do not think it is fair to blame the cat. A cat is a beautiful and
wonderful creature and does not deserve the negative connotations.

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Meghan Noecker - 26 Mar 2004 12:25 GMT
>It is assigned every time a person says they are allergic to their cat. It
>is the dander itself not the cat.

I do say I am allergic to the dog and not specifically her fur or
dander, but I would never "blame" the dog.

Why are you assuming that everybody "blames" the cat when they say
they are allergic to cats.

I do not blame flowers and trees. It is just stating a fact, not a
judgement.

Yes, some people use it as an excuse not to be around cats, but many
people have animals even when they are allergic, and there is nothing
wrong with them stating the fact that they are allergic to animals.
There is no blame to be had anywhere.

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Kitkat - 26 Mar 2004 14:21 GMT
>Yes, some people use it as an excuse not to be around cats<

Of course people use it as the reason to not be around cats. A friend of mine
will end up in the ER if she is around cats because she simply can not breathe
around them. Thats the reality...it has nothing to do with "blame".

Let's not forget the fact that cats have no idea we are claiming to be allergic
to them, thus "blaming" them...so, im really not all that concerned. Im pretty
darn sure my cats dont feel any sort of guilt from my "blaming" them for my
allergies.

Pam (who's glad its FRIDAY!)

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Cat Protector - 26 Mar 2004 20:42 GMT
You would be surprised what cats can understand. Only human arrogance says
that they can't possibly understand because the four legs and a tail.

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Kitkat - 27 Mar 2004 02:01 GMT
>You would be surprised what cats can understand. Only human arrogance says
>that they can't possibly understand because the four legs and a tail.<

I am more than aware of what my cats understand. For the past 5+ years, I have
provided food, shelter and love, unconditionally, regardless of my allergies.
If it makes me arrogant to say that my cat doesnt feel blamed for my allergies,
then so be it. The look of comfort in Luna's eyes is all I need to know.

Thanks anyway,
Pam

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Meghan Noecker - 27 Mar 2004 09:33 GMT
>>You would be surprised what cats can understand. Only human arrogance says
>>that they can't possibly understand because the four legs and a tail.<
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>If it makes me arrogant to say that my cat doesnt feel blamed for my allergies,
>then so be it. The look of comfort in Luna's eyes is all I need to know.

Exactly. Cats understand our emotions. If we say we are allergic to
them but have no ill feelings toward them, then there is nothing bad
for them to pick up.

My dog has no clue that she has the power to make me sick. She
snuggles up next to me on the bed, and I hug her and pet her and tell
her how wonderful she is. She knows I love her, and she honestly has
no idea why I am blowing my nose in the morning, or washing the covers
more frequently in spring.

Now, somebody who doesn't like cats. The cats will pick up on that
easily. That's a much different situation.
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~*Connie*~ - 26 Mar 2004 02:22 GMT
> I think a better thing to say is allergic to the dander and not the cat
> itself. I hate it when people say they are allergic to cats. It makes it
> look like they blame the cat when it isn't even their fault.

that's like saying your not allergic to ragweed, but ragweed pollen.  You
can't have cat allergens with out the cat.

and most of the cases of cat allergies isn't to the "dander" it is to the
saliva as it dries and flakes off.
Cat Protector - 26 Mar 2004 09:37 GMT
This is a cat you are talking about. Not a plant.

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> that's like saying your not allergic to ragweed, but ragweed pollen.  You
> can't have cat allergens with out the cat.
>
> and most of the cases of cat allergies isn't to the "dander" it is to the
> saliva as it dries and flakes off.
Meghan Noecker - 26 Mar 2004 12:28 GMT
>This is a cat you are talking about. Not a plant.

Okay...so are we supposed to blame the plants when we are allergic to
them? And also blame cat dander and cat  saliva?

Or do we just accept the *fact* that we are allergic to ______ and be
done with it.

I do not *blame* anybody or anything for my allergies. They exist.

I'm also allergic to metal and many lotions and soaps. I don't get mad
at them either.

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Sherry - 27 Mar 2004 10:03 GMT
>Okay...so are we supposed to blame the plants when we are allergic to
>them? And also blame cat dander and cat  saliva?
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>Meghan & the Zoo Crew  

Meghan, remember this is CP you're arguing with. You can try to thoughtfully
and logically explain  the issue to him, or you can go outside and eat ground
glass off the picnic table. Either one will be equally painful.

Sherry
~*Connie*~ - 26 Mar 2004 02:20 GMT
> Now that I'm out of lurk mode...I've got a question.
>
> Anyone else out there allergic to their kitties but choose to suffer like I do?
>
> curious,
> Pam

My girlfriend is allergic to cats, and has been fostering for the local
shelter for three years now.. she hasn't been with out a cat in her house
since she started.

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