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Bullying between cats in the neighbourhood?

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Frieda - 27 Feb 2006 22:51 GMT
A few days ago, after coming back from work our cat was sitting on the
windowsil looking out the window.  He was watching another cat who was
on our garden fence with his back arched.  One of the kids spotted him
and ran outside in an attempt to bring him in the house but the cat ran
off before they could get near it.

Jez, our cat, ran upstairs and Pete caught him wondering around as
though he was looking for this cat.  He then spent the whole weekend
hiding under beds, on top of warldrobes and being hesitant about going
outside. He's started to use his litter tray much more frequently than
usual and has lost his appetite.

I have heard that cats have been known to bully more timid cats in
their neighbourhoods.  Jez hardly goes out as it is.  He was a stray
who we took in and used to be fairly timid whenever we tried playing
with him.  Do you think it's possible that this cat we saw could be
bullying Jez?
cybercat - 28 Feb 2006 00:57 GMT
> A few days ago, after coming back from work our cat was sitting on the
> windowsil looking out the window.  He was watching another cat who was
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> with him.  Do you think it's possible that this cat we saw could be
> bullying Jez?

Of course. As long as you allow your cat to roam unsupervised,
anything can happen.
Mathew Kagis - 28 Feb 2006 07:57 GMT
<SNIP>

.  Do you think it's possible that this cat we saw could be
> > bullying Jez?
>
> Of course. As long as you allow your cat to roam unsupervised,
> anything can happen.

... Of course, NOTHING can happen to a cat left inside while your at work
all day...

 Why do people think that a species that is a nocturnal hunter & has bbeen
for 10's of thousands of years is better off locked up in a man made box???
  Nature is perfect!!! We do NOT know better.  You need look no farther
than Dick Cheyney to demonstrate this...

Mathew
Butler to 3 cats:  Chablis, Muscat & Sage
En Vino Veritas
Kelcey - 28 Feb 2006 21:33 GMT
>... Of course, NOTHING can happen to a cat left inside while your at work
>all day...

Nothing happens to my cats left in the house all day.  But here's what can
happen if I let them out:

Infectious diseases from other cats and wildlife - FelLk, FIV, FIP, Distemper
Disease that can infect them and then humans - Rabies
Wounds from fights with other cats which can then become infected abscesses
Hit by car
Killed by dog/s
Captured by neighbours who are tired of it pooping in garden and brought to
Animal Control
Shot or poisoned by cruel neighbour who hates cats in his yard
Eats a mouse that's ingested poision
Gets stuck in bad situation/place due to curiosity
Stolen by someone
Mathew Kagis - 01 Mar 2006 15:55 GMT
> >... Of course, NOTHING can happen to a cat left inside while your at work
> >all day...
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Gets stuck in bad situation/place due to curiosity
> Stolen by someone

yup.... sttill does not answer my question... Why do we think we know better
than 10's of thousands of years of mother nature guiding feline
developememt.... Humans are soooo arrogant.

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Mathew
Butler to 3 cats:  Chablis, Muscat & Sage
En Vino Veritas

Anna - 28 Feb 2006 02:19 GMT
>I have heard that cats have been known to bully more timid cats in
>their neighbourhoods.  Jez hardly goes out as it is.  He was a stray
>who we took in and used to be fairly timid whenever we tried playing
>with him.  Do you think it's possible that this cat we saw could be
>bullying Jez?

Even if your cat doesn't go outside, he can still be scared by cats that come
up to his window while he's in the house.  But what you describe sounds like
quite an extreme reaction so perhaps it is that he is not feeling well.  You
say he has lost his appetite and is using box more often.  He may have a
urinary tract infection, especially if he's going back and forth to box and
voiding little spots of urine.  If this keeps up, take him to vet for a urine
test.  Also, do not him go without eating at all for days, they can get liver
disease this way.

Anna
-L. - 28 Feb 2006 08:31 GMT
> A few days ago, after coming back from work our cat was sitting on the
> windowsil looking out the window.  He was watching another cat who was
> on our garden fence with his back arched.  One of the kids spotted him
> and ran outside in an attempt to bring him in the house but the cat ran
> off before they could get near it.

Why would you bring an unknown cat into your home, especially since it
was blatanly obvious that this strange cat was upsetting your cat?
This is *insane.*

> Jez, our cat, ran upstairs and Pete caught him wondering around as
> though he was looking for this cat.  He then spent the whole weekend
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> I have heard that cats have been known to bully more timid cats in
> their neighbourhoods.  Jez hardly goes out as it is.

Doesn't mattter how often he goes out.  If he goes out at all he has
territory which he marks and defends.

> He was a stray
> who we took in and used to be fairly timid whenever we tried playing
> with him.  Do you think it's possible that this cat we saw could be
> bullying Jez?

(The lack of understanding of cat behavior exhibited by people who own
cats never fails to amaze me...)

Cats have territories which they patrol and defend - even if they are
neutered.  So yes, these cats are fighting over territory.  If you want
to keep your cat healthy and safe, do not let him roam outside
unattended.

-L.
(posts like these make we want to quit reading H+B altogether...)
Tracey - 28 Feb 2006 14:43 GMT
-L
You may have been frustrated with this person's question, but making a
person feel bad for asking a question defeats the purpose of these
boards.  I would rather someone ask the question and let us educate
them with our experience, instead of having someone do something to put
their cat in danger.  If you are not willing to participate in helping
people maybe you're right and you shouldn't read these boards any more.

-Frieda
I agree with Anna's earlier comment.  And please keep asking questions,
we are all here to help eachother learn and share ideas.
-L. - 28 Feb 2006 22:37 GMT
> -L
> You may have been frustrated with this person's question, but making a
> person feel bad for asking a question

I have no control over whether or not someone "feels bad".

>defeats the purpose of these
> boards.  I would rather someone ask the question and let us educate
> them with our experience, instead of having someone do something to put
> their cat in danger.

As would I.  But some of this sh.t borders on the ridiculous.

> If you are not willing to participate in helping
> people maybe you're right and you shouldn't read these boards any more.

Who died and made you ng Mommy?  Let me give you a clue: f.ck off.  And
I mean that in the most flattering way!

-L.
AlexZ - 28 Feb 2006 19:30 GMT
: Doesn't mattter how often he goes out.  If he goes out at all he has
: territory which he marks and defends.

In our neighborhood we have a situation where each cat has his/her own
home, but they all go out and pass through a few backyards. They can't
get out of this area.

So, my cat doesn't share our home with any cat, but other cats do walk
through our yard and ours goes to the neighbors' yards.

I can't tell if they are "friends" but so far they seem to tolerate
each other. At least we haven't seen any fights.
Anna - 28 Feb 2006 21:22 GMT
>Why would you bring an unknown cat into your home, especially since it
>was blatanly obvious that this strange cat was upsetting your cat?
>This is *insane.*

My understanding is that the kid who owns the cat who was doing the bullying
came out and tried to bring the cat into it's own house.

>(The lack of understanding of cat behavior exhibited by people who own
>cats never fails to amaze me...)

That is why they post questions here, to learn.  No need to make them feel
bad that they don't know a lot about cats.  Did we all know everything with
our first cat?  Or even now?

>(posts like these make we want to quit reading H+B altogether...)

Pretty harsh.  

Anna
-L. - 28 Feb 2006 22:39 GMT
> >Why would you bring an unknown cat into your home, especially since it
> >was blatanly obvious that this strange cat was upsetting your cat?
> >This is *insane.*
>
> My understanding is that the kid who owns the cat who was doing the bullying
> came out and tried to bring the cat into it's own house.

OK, that makes a *lot* more sense.

> >(The lack of understanding of cat behavior exhibited by people who own
> >cats never fails to amaze me...)
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>
> Pretty harsh.  

Maybe, but true.

-L.
 
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