Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2006
Cats and Colds
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Turtlecat - 22 Feb 2006 04:43 GMT Hello! I just found this site today and it's so helpful and fun! Our cat is Turtle--an adopted Torti who is almost 6 years old.
I know the subject of cats and colds has been talked about, but---How does a cat catch a cold or URI when there are no other cats in the house, the cat is an indoor cat, has not been anywhere, etc.? I'm just concerned that maybe this is not what's going on, even though the vet says it is this or allergies. And can allergies just all of a sudden appear when nothing new has been introduced into the envrionment?
Turtle started sneezing a week ago and then had one watery and runny eye. I took her to vet who said she had allergies or a cold of some type. The vet gave Amoxi drops and a depo something-or-other shot that they said was for allergies. The sneezing completely stopped for two days and the eye cleared up. On the third day, the sneezing returned and now, a week after it started, the sneezing is worse and sometimes it sounds like she's sniffing. Her little black nose is also starting to get a red spot on it where she constantly licks it now. The eye is still fine. No wheezing or anything either. No scratching.
I spoke to the vet two days ago after the sneezing returned and they suggested trying Benedryl. Well, I read that cats hate the taste and sometimes salivate, but I'll tell ya, that's something I never want to see again. It was horrible. So, Benedryl is definitely out. Now they're saying they have an allergy pill that I can come by the office and get, either now or wait until the Amoxi drops are done and see how it goes.
Although I've had several cats over the years (and yes, one dog!) I've never had a cat that had a cold, a URI, or allergies, so I am at a loss on this. And I just feel so sorry for her sneezing all the time and that sniffly nose! She's also starting to be a little less active and eating a little less (although when I brought out the tuna, that helpd!).
Any thoughts, advice, or purrs will be very welcome! Turtle and I thank you!
Pam
NMR - 22 Feb 2006 04:50 GMT Hi Pam it sounds like an allergy have you started using new carpet cleaner or started a new type of food for his diet. Something along this line just as new house plants etc. This is where you have to start tracking down possible culprits. If you have the money I would do these things to start with 1 carpet clean the whole house along with the upholstery 2 take the furballs bedding out and replace it
The depo shot is a common thing My cat rumble gets it for licking and scratching it relieves the itch
> Hello! I just found this site today and it's so helpful and fun! Our cat > is [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Pam Turtlecat - 22 Feb 2006 05:10 GMT Thanks, NMR. Nothing new in the house at all, no new food, cleaners--nothing. That's what's so puzzling to me. No houseplants at all as I always tend to kill them! But I hadn't thought about cleaning the carpets--that's a great idea. I can shampoo them, and then order this dust mite powder that you put on the carpet, let it dry, and then vacuum up. My teenage son has been on allergy injections for years and in the begininng we used this dust might stuff since that's one of his allergens--had completely forgotten about it and it might help. Her bed is "anywhere she wants," especially MY bed! But there is an old quilt that I have on top of the sewing machine that she loves to nap on, so I till make a change there.
Thanks bunches for the suggestions!
>Hi Pam it sounds like an allergy have you started using new carpet cleaner >or started a new type of food for his diet. Something along this line just NMR - 22 Feb 2006 05:18 GMT Turtle cat one question does the cat have access to a screened window if so you may want to check for fleas or other parasitic infection
And my real name is Matthew I keep forgetting to put that at the bottom
armshome@aol.com - 22 Feb 2006 11:12 GMT How long ago did you adopted your kitty? I have one that I adopted 1 year ago who, from time to time has the same symptoms and more. They seem to pop up here and there. The vet says that his immune system is lousy from being in the shelter so he picks up viruses, etc. very easily.
Toni - 22 Feb 2006 10:37 GMT > I'm just concerned that maybe > this is not what's going on, even though the vet says it is this or > allergies. > And can allergies just all of a sudden appear when nothing new has been > introduced into the envrionment? Food allergies can present after years of an animal eating the same diet without issue.
What does this cat eat? Don't forget to look at everything- treats, occasional snacks, regular diet- everything.
If anything lists any type of dye as an ingredient get rid of it. After that you are looking for words you don't know the meanings of- look every one of them up via Google until you understand their function in the food. Some are necessary while others are not, and some are more allergy provoking than others.
Once the diet is clear of all this stuff you can start looking at individual food ingredients and maybe doing food trials (elimination diet) to figure out what exactly is going on.
 Signature Toni http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com
Turtlecat - 22 Feb 2006 15:13 GMT Matthew, I did have the window open only a few inches the other day, but it was after this all started and it's up on the second floor. I never open the windows on ground level because I had a cat growing up that got fleas bad through the basement screen door! Anyway, right now it's so cold outside most days that everything's usually shut tight.
Armshome, we adopted her from the local humane society about 5 years ago, a place that fosters the animals. My son and I were volunteering there at the time and fell in love with her when she was brought to the stand one Saturday! This is the first time she's been sick in five years.
Toni, she eats Science Diet Light Hairball control, the hard food. It's the only thing I've found that she'll eat and keeps her from hacking up hair/furballs. The only other thing I give her is a little tuna and the liquid out of the tuna can, about once a week., but more often now because her appetite's down a little.
I'm taking her back to the vet today because I want them to check her again since she's worse than she was last week when we were there. And she hates being shut up in her crate, hates the car ride, hates the vet visit--and it's raining out! But I really would feel better taking her in again.
I read somewhere that you can use a infant's bulb thing to help suction stuff out of a cat's nose (the same thing you use for infants when they have a cold since they can't blow their noses). Anybody heard about this or done this?
Thanks again for all the input--I'll let you know what the vet says today.
Pam
NMR - 22 Feb 2006 15:19 GMT Yes please keep us posted If you have any questions about the test let us know We all will explain everything.
Pss take notes it helps when dealing with a vet
You may need to have a an allergy test done but the vet will advise you
http://www.maxshouse.com/Database_toc.htm for a little friendly info this is Phil's site he might not be a vet but is one of the most informative individuals outside of being a vet
> Matthew, I did have the window open only a few inches the other day, but > it [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Pam Rhonda - 22 Feb 2006 19:46 GMT Turtle -- I love that name! I know a few cats that would fit that description.
You may have already been to the vet, but I would have them thoroughly check her teeth. One of our cats had a "cold" on one side of his face -- runny eye and one runny nostril. It turned out to be a huge dental infection that had gone into his sinuses. It eventually started affecting the other nostril before we pinpointed his problem.
Good luck with Turtle,
Rhonda
> Turtle started sneezing a week ago and then had one watery and runny eye. Turtlecat - 22 Feb 2006 22:38 GMT Back from the vet. On our first visit last week, she checked everything-- teeth, gums, ears, eyes, etc, nothing amiss in those areas, other than the one watery eye, which is no longer a problem. Today, she said that it is a URI, that she probably picked up the herpes virus when she was either being fostered (they had 8 cats there), or prior to that and it was just dormant until now. (She's 6 now and we adopted her when she was a a little over 1 year.) She checked everything again and said that yes, now she is congested. The vet gave Turtle another antibotic injection, changed the antibiotic that I give her from Amoxi drops to Baytril pills, which I hear are very bitter, and gave her chlorpheniramine (basically Chlor-Trimiton) antihistimine pills.
I tried the anihistimine earlier this afternoon, and she fought that taste and had a little bit of salivating. I had an idea, though. Bought some of those Pill Pockets. I know she won't eat the Pill Pockets with the pill in it, but I pulled off just a little bit, enough to just cover up the antihistimine and popped the combo in her mouth as a pill. Just needed enough to cover the taste of the pill while it was on her tongue before she swallowed it. I made it very small--and it worked. NO salivating or anything. I just hope this works tonight with the Baytril. If not, I did find this website the sells empty capsules for humans and pets. The dog and cat ones are flavored either beef or chicken. The pills could be put in there. (These are gelitin capules made for dogs and cats. They make them for humans, too.) The last resort on the Baytril is having to learn how to give an injection.
Turtle's name. She had that when we adopted her and we just kept it. She's always been shy and is a Torti. But it was funny today at the vet. When I checked in, the lady asked the name. When I said, "Turtle," she looked at me real funny and asked had I been there before. Angie, the girl that knows me, popped her head around the corner and said, "It's a cat NAMED Turtle!" The lady thought I was bringing in a turlte and they had never had turtles in there before!
If you're interested and don't know about it, the website for the empty pet and human capsules is: http://www.capsuline.com/index.php
Thanks everyone for your support and help! Turtle sneezes you a "hello"!
Pam
Turtlecat - 22 Feb 2006 22:42 GMT Oh, forgot something in the last post--as if I didn't put enough in there as it is!
The vet also said I could use infant saline nose drops, one drop in each nostril. I asked about using the infant bulb syring thingy to try and suction out some of the nose stuff and she said that was fine to try.
Just thought I'd mention in case it might be beneficial for someone out there!
Pam
Phil P. - 23 Feb 2006 00:16 GMT > Hello! I just found this site today and it's so helpful and fun! Our cat is > Turtle--an adopted Torti who is almost 6 years old. > > I know the subject of cats and colds has been talked about, but---How does a > cat catch a cold or URI when there are no other cats in the house, the cat is > an indoor cat, has not been anywhere, etc.? Turtle may have been infected with FHV-1 (feline herpesvirus) at some point in her life. Clinically recovered cats often become asymptomatic life-long carriers. The virus persists in a latent form and reactivates if the cat becomes stressed. Stresses are sometimes difficult to identify in cats. Stressors could be something as simple as a change in a family member's (human or animal) schedule, rearranging furniture or even outdoor cats that your cat can see through a window.
You might want to speak to your vet about an l-lysine supplement- its a natural amino acid that interferes with viral reproduction. I use Enisyl-F in our cats and highly recommend it. Enisyl-F comes in very easy to use syringe applicators:
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Available on from Amazon:
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Phil
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