Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2006
Vomiting started suddenly, with frequency
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jmc - 18 Feb 2006 23:34 GMT Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and normal yesterday.
Today, she got a few minutes out in our yard - she's mostly an indoor cat but spends hours out there in summer. Wasn't interested in hours, so she was maybe out there for 10 minutes.
Some short time after that, she vomited a small amount of food, mixed with a little bit of hair. Normally I'd have expected her to throw up grass after being outside. We cleaned it up, and didn't think too much of it (she's rarely thrown up food before), and went out.
We came home, and shortly after, I heard her retching, and she threw up more food. At that point we found two more piles behind the table - one was still warm. It seems to be just her food though.
After maybe another half-hour, she threw up again - this time just brownish bile. She's never vomited this much before - 4x in perhaps a 7 hour period.
Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.
I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the chicken that's suggested. Also suggested kaopectate, but we don't have any and it's 11:30pm here.
She hasn't tossed again for about an hour now, but she's needy and uncharacteristically hanging out next to me in the computer room. She did look a bit distressed after the last session, but then I am too when I'm tossing up everything I've eaten...
I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?
AFAIK she only eats grass, and there's plenty in her usual spots so I can't really see her getting into anything else, but we do have roses that I was clipping yesterday so I wondered if she could have got a thorn on her paw, then ingested it? What would the symptoms be if she had eaten a thorn? I can pretty much rule out poison, there's simply nothing like that in our yard, and if it was a poisonous plant I'd think she'd have gotten into trouble long before this.
I'll definitely call the vet in the morning if she's still retching, but I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight, worrying about her.
Any help is appreciated.
jmc
jmc - 19 Feb 2006 00:34 GMT Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (18-Feb-06 11:34 PM):
> Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's > fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and normal [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > jmc Well, it's been another hour - seems to be better, sort of. She's stopped vomiting, though to me she still seems uncomfortable.
jmc
Margarita Salt - 19 Feb 2006 00:49 GMT jmc <NOnewsgroupsSPAM@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> Well, it's been another hour - seems to be better, sort of. She's > stopped vomiting, though to me she still seems uncomfortable. > > jmc Poor kitty! She just wants her mommy now. Nothing like having a tummy ache to make you vulnerable.
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cybercat - 19 Feb 2006 00:43 GMT > Poor Meep. > > I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this > is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for > only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing? This is exactly how my cats act after they have eaten some sort of houseplant. (None of theones I have had are actually poisonous to cats, but they obviously were not the best choices for a snack.) My girls are generally better within 24 hours.
LMR - 19 Feb 2006 03:29 GMT >Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and >call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of >chicken if she hasn't tossed any more. >I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then >suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't >eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the Try (onion-free) chicken baby food (after the 24 hour wait); never seen a cat who doesn't like it. That is what most books and my own vet suggest after a bout of diarreah as it is very bland and easy on the stomach.
>I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this >is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for >only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing? I'm wondering if it could be a hairball that won't come up since there was a bit of hair in the first vomit. The hairball is trying to come out but just the food does instead. Taking away the food for awhile sounds like a good idea.
LMR
mlbriggs - 19 Feb 2006 04:04 GMT >>Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and >>call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > LMR Maybe some hairball remedy or oil or butter would ease passage of a hairball. Purrs that she will improve fast. MLB
jmc - 19 Feb 2006 08:51 GMT Suddenly, without warning, mlbriggs exclaimed (19-Feb-06 4:04 AM):
>>> Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and >>> call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Maybe some hairball remedy or oil or butter would ease passage of a > hairball. Purrs that she will improve fast. MLB it very well could be a hairball. She vomited again early this morning, there was a bit of hair in it. Gave her more petromalt and checked the 'net for symptoms. She's alert and eating this morning (I gave her a few kibbles just to check her appetite), so if it's a hairball, it's not serious. I'd have thought a big hairball in her belly (what I'm worried about) would have been noticed by the vet two days ago.
At any rate I'll see how well she holds these kibbles down, and try to find some baby food a little later.
I went ahead and called the vet again this morning,and made an appt for tomorrow morning. Hopefully I'll be able to cancel it.
Thanks for the purrs. Perhaps they worked, she's very bright this morning, though very very hungry.
jmc
laurie w - 19 Feb 2006 07:50 GMT Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and normal yesterday.
Today, she got a few minutes out in our yard - she's mostly an indoor cat but spends hours out there in summer. Wasn't interested in hours, so she was maybe out there for 10 minutes.
Some short time after that, she vomited a small amount of food, mixed with a little bit of hair. Normally I'd have expected her to throw up grass after being outside. We cleaned it up, and didn't think too much of it (she's rarely thrown up food before), and went out.
We came home, and shortly after, I heard her retching, and she threw up more food. At that point we found two more piles behind the table - one was still warm. It seems to be just her food though.
After maybe another half-hour, she threw up again - this time just brownish bile. She's never vomited this much before - 4x in perhaps a 7 hour period.
Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.
I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the chicken that's suggested. Also suggested kaopectate, but we don't have any and it's 11:30pm here.
She hasn't tossed again for about an hour now, but she's needy and uncharacteristically hanging out next to me in the computer room. She did look a bit distressed after the last session, but then I am too when I'm tossing up everything I've eaten...
I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?
AFAIK she only eats grass, and there's plenty in her usual spots so I can't really see her getting into anything else, but we do have roses that I was clipping yesterday so I wondered if she could have got a thorn on her paw, then ingested it? What would the symptoms be if she had eaten a thorn? I can pretty much rule out poison, there's simply nothing like that in our yard, and if it was a poisonous plant I'd think she'd have gotten into trouble long before this.
I'll definitely call the vet in the morning if she's still retching, but I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight, worrying about her.
Any help is appreciated.
jmc
DONT dont dont use kaopectate. Nor pepto. The formula has changed in the kaopectate and it is toxic to kitties- it is NO LONGER kaolin and pectin. It now contains bismuth salicylate , which is very dangerous for cats. A better bet, depending on size of the kitty , is to check with the vet, and use immodium , 1/4 or 1/8 of a human pill. But that is for diarrhea, not vomiting.
Must have been something in the air today, one of my kitties (koko) also vomited 4 times today.
I would recommend the baby meat formulas, the chicken, turkey ,veal, as has been suggested. sometimes plain chicken broth in a few bits of potato buds will tempt them. Sometimes they will eat stuff when they have upset tummies that they would normally NOT even sniff.
Koko actually wanted her crunchy nutro lamb and rice, and stopped vomiting. She refuses the hairball formula treats, so once a week or so we let her at the butter - stick a dab in her dinner. It has been awhile since we did that, so that could possibly be partly why she was sick.
Good luck, hope kitty feels better - make sure she has access to lots of fresh water.
laurie
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jmc - 19 Feb 2006 09:01 GMT Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (18-Feb-06 11:34 PM):
> Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's > fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and normal [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > jmc Update: She tossed once again in the wee hours of the morning: bile with some hair. I gave her more petromalt (hairball meds - my UK vet doesn't know what petromalt is!) and went back to bed. She used the litterbox during the night, but only to pee. This morning she's up bright and early, reminding us that not only is it sunny out, but that she's out of food and could I please fix that?
Called the vet anyway, expressing my concerns this could be leading to a hairball impaction - she said since Meep's not lethargic and not off her food, wait-and-see is fine, and I could pick up a sample of hairball food in the morning. I ended up making an appointment in the early am, since I'm leaving town around lunchtime, and hubby's not usually involved in Meep's healthcare. I hope to cancel the appointment :)
Gave her just a couple of kibbles this morning, she wolfed them down. I'll see if she keeps them down. I'll try to get some (non-onion) babyfood this morning, and see how that goes.
She doesn't normally toss up hairballs, normally passes them in her stool. So, I'm hoping for something from either end (she's not pooed in a day or so but that's normal for her) - if that happens, I'll canx the vet appointment.
jmc
jmc - 19 Feb 2006 10:53 GMT Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (19-Feb-06 9:01 AM):
> Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (18-Feb-06 11:34 PM): >> Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > jmc I have noticed that she's still licking her lips a lot (she was yesterday too, after this started). Is this significant?
She's not dehydrated, I checked that.
jmc
Morgen - 19 Feb 2006 15:38 GMT I think it may well be hairball impaction. She should be better by now. Keep the water handy, petromalt is great. If she goes off the water, give per children's unflavored pedialyte with a little chicken broth in it to make it palatable. You may have to force it. I try to always keep a bottle of this stuff around as it helps with dehydration. Don't cancel the appt. She needs to be seen.
Love to meeps! Morgen
jmc - 19 Feb 2006 23:05 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Morgen exclaimed (19-Feb-06 3:38 PM):
> I think it may well be hairball impaction. She should be better by > now. Keep the water handy, petromalt is great. If she goes off the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Love to meeps! > Morgen Not sure if I'll need to; we'll see what the morning brings. By this evening, she'd stopped licking her lips, and was running around, demanding food. I've been giving her the regular food in small bits throughout the afternoon(she wouldn't touch the baby food), and she's kept everything down. I'm not feeding her the full amount tonight, but enough to keep her happy.
Still hasn't poo'd but as she'd tossed everything from yesterday, and ate nothing until this afternoon, I expect she doesn't have anything to work with, so to speak. I think it was just a tummy ache after all, but hubby will keep a close eye on her while I'm away, and will be giving her petromalt throughout the week.
Thanks to all who responded!
jmc
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