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ensoul - 12 Feb 2006 03:09 GMT we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them food for indoor cats got them at the SPCA, even though we have a small place I asked if we sahould have 2 litter boxes, they said yes since some cats don't like sharing....we've tried so many different kinds, have spray called OUT for urine and feces odor and a Arm & Hammer product that you sprinkle on top of the litter, they help some, and one of cats, not sure which one doesn't cover his poop.....I scoop them every day...please don't suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions.
ensoul
Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. ~Anne Sexton
cybercat - 12 Feb 2006 03:23 GMT > we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them > food for indoor cats [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we > can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions. What exactly is the problem?
Odor?
If so, scoop more often and ventilate. You can open your windows for a while each day, even when it is cold.
Don't try to cover up the smell, just clean the box more often.
Simple, eh?
Joe Canuck - 12 Feb 2006 03:33 GMT > we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them > food for indoor cats [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. > ~Anne Sexton How many cats and exactly what is the issue?
ensoul - 12 Feb 2006 23:33 GMT the smell, both boxes get cleaned everyday...opening window is not an option I ilive in State it's 20 degree's and with wind chill much worse....I have tried OUT a spary to get rid of urine & feces odor, also arm & hammer stuff that you sprinkle both of these products only work temporarily
ensoul
cybercat - 13 Feb 2006 00:00 GMT > the smell, both boxes get cleaned everyday...opening window is not an > option I ilive in State it's 20 degree's and with wind chill much > worse....I have tried OUT a spary to get rid of urine & feces odor, > also arm & hammer stuff that you sprinkle both of these products only > work temporarily Scoop more often. Once a day is not enough if you have a foul smell about your place.
Judy - 12 Feb 2006 06:24 GMT > we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them > food for indoor cats [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ensoul I have one cat and two litter boxes. She likes to pee in one and poop in the other. When it comes to litter, I use one that is clumping and flushable. When I detect an odor, I scoop and flush. Usually twice a day. I use the Arm & Hammer on occasions when she's taken a notion not to bury. Don't just sprinkle it on top, mix it in.
As a result of my regime, the odor is around for as long as it takes me to scoop, flush, sprinkle and mix. About 2 minutes?
You didn't mention how many cats you have, but if you only have room for one box, perhaps consider a flushable clumping litter and scoop more often.
-L. - 12 Feb 2006 06:35 GMT > we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them > food for indoor cats [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. > ~Anne Sexton I prefer Precious Cat "classic" or "ultra" scoopable - http://www.preciouscat.com. I have tried everything on the market. You need to scoop daily and clean the pan completely at least every 3-4 weeks. I suggest replacing the pans about once a year as the plastic can retain odors (as all plastics can). As for cleaners, I use ODOKLEEN and ODOKILL which are both available through pet supply stores or online. http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.aspx?sku=30309&R=323&enemerch=1
-L.
jmc - 12 Feb 2006 08:43 GMT Suddenly, without warning, ensoul exclaimed (12-Feb-06 3:09 AM):
> we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them > food for indoor cats [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. > ~Anne Sexton You don't mention exactly how many cats. Many people suggest you should have one more litterbox than you have cats. I do realize that it may be a space issue, but you should have at least as many boxes as cats.
If the problem is odor, try a different cat food. I've just recently put Meep The Non-Burying Cat on Royal Canin (Mature Indoor, I think), and she's gone from Oh, My God What An Amazing Stink to Oh, I didn't Realize She Had...
As for litter, World's Best Cat Litter is, well, the best. Flushable, covers smell well when she does bury, lasts a long time if I clean regular, clumps just enough.
Are they both using the boxes, or do you have a problem with one or the other going outside the boxes?
jmc
PawsForThought - 12 Feb 2006 16:37 GMT > If the problem is odor, try a different cat food. I've just recently > put Meep The Non-Burying Cat on Royal Canin (Mature Indoor, I think), > and she's gone from Oh, My God What An Amazing Stink to Oh, I didn't > Realize She Had... I agree. Feeding a high quality food can really make a very big difference in the smell and amount of feces in the litterbox. We use Swheat Scoop and have been happy with it.
ensoul - 12 Feb 2006 23:34 GMT sorry 2 cats and 2 litter boxes, they're brothers
ensoul
Joe Canuck - 12 Feb 2006 23:59 GMT > sorry 2 cats and 2 litter boxes, they're brothers > > ensoul Well, if the smell is the big issue you can start with what they are consuming... because usually if the food they are consuming doesn't agree with them or isn't the best what comes out the other end will smell horribilis! :-D
So, what do you feed them? ...and have you considered switch, gradually, to something else?
Judy - 13 Feb 2006 05:12 GMT >> sorry 2 cats and 2 litter boxes, they're brothers >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > So, what do you feed them? ...and have you considered switch, gradually, > to something else? Switching foods might be helpful, but the fact remains that eliminations from a body usually result in a stink.
Perhaps the OP needs to spend more time tending to the litterbox. The moment I smell offensive odours emanating from the litter boxes in my home, I take care of them the same way as the toilet gets flushed after it's been used.
Eliminating fowl odours isn't rocket science.
Shardonay - 14 Feb 2006 01:28 GMT > Suddenly, without warning, ensoul exclaimed (12-Feb-06 3:09 AM): > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > jmc I have one box for 2 cats. No problem. Just scoop every day. I use Scoop Away because it clumps better and smells better than the others I've tried (Tidy Cats, Arm and Hammer)
treeline12345@yahoo.com - 12 Feb 2006 16:41 GMT > we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them > food for indoor cats [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. > ~Anne Sexton I like SwheatScoop. It's wheat, plain wheat. The others use clay or other things which are somewhat associated with serious medical problems. I gather you're really asking about the smell? I don't smell anything with the wheat product for some reason. It's much more expensive unless you can find wheat on farms?
Arm & Hammer, was that ordinary baking soda? Put some in the bottom of the box before filling. Might help and it's inexpensive? You would sprinkle this on the bottom of the litter, not the top, according to ShweatScoop. Maybe sprinkle both ways. But it's the bottom if not deep enough that accumulates nasty stuff. Are you filling to at least 3 inches deep too? That helps a lot. Measure with a ruler, 3 inches is very, very deep.
You might try scooping more than once a day. Basically that's all the $100 machine does. Scoop, poop, scoop, poop, scoop, poop... Or is that poop, scoop, poop, scoop, poop, scoop, poop, scoop...
About your sig, Anne Sexton sure did not take her own advice in regards to trusting her soul to her the_rapists. Especially that one in Boston. What an unethical bastard, and directed the family clinic? And the previous one in Philly who released her tapes but did nothing about the bum in boston? Very sad.
treeline12345@yahoo.com - 13 Feb 2006 02:27 GMT > we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them > food for indoor cats [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we > can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions. i just thought of something. parasite can make a big stink. have you ever check them for blood parasites beside stool parasite?
daydream58@COLDmail.com - 17 Feb 2006 01:04 GMT Clumping clay litter that contains sodium bentonite is extremely dangerous for your felines as when ingested during normal grooming from the paws, it forms hard clumps in their digestive tracts which can cause anything from pain to death. If you're using a product that fits this description and most especially if you have a long haired cat that gets quite a bit of litter stuck to their fur, I'd say that was a pretty dangerous combination.
Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds of litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that damages breathing surfaces permanently and is also a known carcinogen. Several years before I educated myself on this matter, I had a cat die from the effects of clumping litter in her system and it was a slow and painful death that I will feel guilty about for the rest of my life. As if all of that wasn't bad enough, clay mines are not eco-friendly either. I really have nothing good to say about clay litters, and most especially about clumping clay litters.
My veterinarian was NO help whatsoever with figuring out this problem, so don't expect yours to be! Don't put yourself through the guilt or your cat through the pain. What seems like common sense in hindsight was something nobody figured out at the time, and so many cats are suffering needlessly while the makers of these products count their blood money and insist their customers are perfectly happy injuring and killing their beloved pets with their "convenient" products.
***Alternatives***
Try pine wood pellet, corn or wheat litters. They're natural and safe as long as the pine kind is only made from kiln-dried (natural oils-removed) pine sawdust formed into pellets and the corn/wheat varieties don't have any pesticide residues. (i.e. buy commercially prepared ones, don't try to make your own.) I buy a very large bag of it twice a year and that's it! It's $20 or $25 but that's Canadian money too, so it should be even cheaper if you're in the States.
The shelter I got Tashi from was using a pine wood litter so I got the same thing to ease her transition and I'm so glad I did. It's amazing. There is NO unpleasant scent whatsoever! Not right away and not two, three or even four weeks later. After a month I change Tashi's litter, even though I can literally pick up her litter box and sniff it and still detect no scent at all. By then the pellets are mostly saw dust and that's when it's time to replace them. I do remove solid waste right away, and a little saw dust usually sticks to that, but it's perfectly safe to flush small amounts of saw dust. When I dump out the litter into a big green garbage bag, I place the pan in the tub and pour boiling water all around the sides and into it and let it sit for a while. Then I dump the water down the toilet and dry the pan with a paper towel. Because I'm using soft wood instead of hard silica, the pan stays in perfect non-scratched condition so it's easy to keep it hygienic. It always looks brand new to be honest.
Pine litter is environmentally friendly and 100% natural and safe to use. It's so long lasting, controls odors perfectly and is affordable. It has no dust during use or while cleaning and replacing for you or your cat to inhale. It doesn't stick to your cat or track all over the house. I never thought a litter would come along as perfect as pine litter. Even the most finicky nose can not even detect it's presence in the home and almost too good to be true, it's inexpensive too - it's like a dream come true if you ask me. You pour out pellets and as the litter gets used up, it turns to saw dust. At no point along the way does it have a bad smell... just give it a stir when removing poop (if you want, usually I don't even do that) and when it's more sawdust and less pellets, replace it... very simple and easy to use.
Messing with the litter a cat is used to can be problematic, so if you want to switch to pine litter, put an inch of it underneath a layer of your current product without stirring and slowly reduce your current product until nothing is left but the pine pellets. If your cat has any setbacks, simply slow down the process. Another option would be to toilet train your cats. Some say it's not natural and no cat would ever do such a thing willingly, which is not true. When I was growing up, we had a cat that taught himself to use the toilet, so don't let someone with an agenda (or maybe just jealous?) tell you what's normal and natural and what isn't. If your cat doesn't want to learn toilet training, trust me, it won't. Cats do not humor us with stupid pet tricks. They leave that sort of thing to dogs and humans. So you see there is absolutely no need to put up with indoor cat smelly litter anymore, those days are gone forever for me and I love it.
The above was taken from Tashi's website and reworded slightly.
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> we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them > food for indoor cats [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. > ~Anne Sexton meee - 17 Feb 2006 01:18 GMT Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper litters that don't work very well and the cats' don't like. Any help would be appreciated!!
> Clumping clay litter that contains sodium bentonite is extremely dangerous > for your felines as when ingested during normal grooming from the paws, it [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] >> Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. >> ~Anne Sexton Corey Kaye - 17 Feb 2006 01:34 GMT > Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in > Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper > litters that don't work very well and the cats' don't like. Any help > would be appreciated!! Do you have wood pellet burning stoves down there? The pellets for those stoves is pretty much the same thing as wood pellet kitty litter.
We also have a product called Woody Pet here, used as bedding for horses, that is also wood pellets.
I'm sure you could find one or the other :)
Corey
meee - 17 Feb 2006 01:45 GMT >> Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in >> Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Corey Thanks!! I have seen the wooden stove pellets down south, but I'm in Tropical North Queensland, so the horse bedding would probably be better. I have 6 cats so I've tried the paper litter and it gets smelly too quickly. Right now I'm using a friskies sandy looking litter, which is designed for multiple cat households apparently, but it says 'natural clay product with odour control system' and that's it. If it's dangerous I wouldn't want to use it. I like the sound of a natural non-smelly litter.
daydream58@COLDmail.com - 17 Feb 2006 01:52 GMT I get Tashi's at the big pet supply store here (In Canada) called Pet Cetera or whatever it's called. I have a friend who owns a cat in Orange, so I've written him to ask a few questions on your behalf... I'll come back with his reply ASAP, sorry for delay.
> Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in > Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] >>> Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. >>> ~Anne Sexton meee - 17 Feb 2006 02:02 GMT thankyou very much!! I really appreciate you going to all this trouble :)
>I get Tashi's at the big pet supply store here (In Canada) called Pet >Cetera or whatever it's called. I have a friend who owns a cat in Orange, [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] >>>> Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. >>>> ~Anne Sexton daydream58@COLDmail.com - 17 Feb 2006 04:02 GMT Be REAL careful when "making do" with an alternative as pine is actually used to keep cats AWAY from things, the only reason a cat will go near properly prepared cat pine litter is that it's had all of the offending (and usually allergic to cats) pine oils removed from it.
Call around to your local pet supply places... if they don't know what you're talking about, ask to speak to the manager or something... pine litter has been out here for quite some time and there's no excuse for someone not to offer an economical and ecologically safe alternative like that.
Anyways, pine shavings used for bedding would very likely not work as they are very different from kiln-dried, all-oils-removed pellets. Please be careful. Email me directly if you have any questions or want to see pictures of it, etc. Anything I can do to help, I am happy to try.
> thankyou very much!! I really appreciate you going to all this trouble :) >>I get Tashi's at the big pet supply store here (In Canada) called Pet [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] >>>>> Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. >>>>> ~Anne Sexton meee - 17 Feb 2006 04:09 GMT > Be REAL careful when "making do" with an alternative as pine is actually > used to keep cats AWAY from things, the only reason a cat will go near [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > careful. Email me directly if you have any questions or want to see > pictures of it, etc. Anything I can do to help, I am happy to try. Thankyou very much :) My neighbour's told me of a pet supply shop down the road that's supposedly good so I will go and check that out. I have to go there anyway to ask about bulk cat food for my growing bunch, so I will have another excuse now!!
>> thankyou very much!! I really appreciate you going to all this trouble :) >>>I get Tashi's at the big pet supply store here (In Canada) called Pet [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] >>>>>> Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. >>>>>> ~Anne Sexton Toni - 17 Feb 2006 13:41 GMT > Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds > of litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that > damages breathing surfaces permanently and is also a known carcinogen. > Several years before I educated myself on this matter, I had a cat die > from the effects of clumping litter in her system and it was a slow and > painful death that I will feel guilty about for the rest of my life. Any documentation as to cause of death?
I ask not to be rude, but sincerely want to know. I have heard these things about clumping litter before but always in an anecdotal sense. My feline specialist says it is not a valid concern, the Tufts cat newsletter reported the same thing, and I have yet to be able to find any documented cases.
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daydream58@COLDmail.com - 18 Feb 2006 04:09 GMT No worries about asking. No it's not documented but from what I can tell because of her long hair and ingesting small amounts of clump stuff over the years, it does harden like cement as someone else mentioned and it got stuck and built up (this is after the fact assumption, not autopy results) where her digestive tract passes through the pelvic bones. This eventually (after 10 years) blocked up like the way plaque sticks to arteries (or teeth) if you see what I mean and so the pelvic opening ended up being smaller than what her digestive tract needed and things blocked up... it's too horrible to even go into detail more than that. I honestly can't stand to think about it. The medical fact that it happened is not an assumption though, you can see it on xrays, but she was still alive when he did that, it wasn't an autopsy finding.
I can't prove 100% what happened to her, but I feel that it involved the cement-like "plaque" clumps getting things blocked up in an area that could ill afford it. This was a 25 pound cat (maine coon - little bit fat but mostly just BIG) that needed major brushing twice a day and didn't get it because she didn't like to be touched or brushed and I still have scars to prove it. So I'm sure she swallowed plenty of fur and anything stuck to it. I'm also pretty sure my neglect had a lot to do with her horrible suffering and I'm not denying that. I just don't think hairballs formed a cement-like blockage in her pelvic opening pass through. The problem is, her vet never offered any explanation for it at all. I am the one who put two and two together in a lonely 2am horrible darkness.
However, I certainly and not trying to sell a safe litter by scaring anyone... if that came off like the primary reason for the first post, it wasn't meant to at all, believe me. I copy pasted most of it off my cat's website and didn't even need that part. I honestly regret using clumping litter though and I'm so glad I will never use it again, but pine litter is really PERFECT in every way and it doesn't need a horrible scare tactic to sell itself, so I should have probably just edited that part out. I don't mean to make everyone using non-pine litter to feel like they're being abusive to their loved family members. Anyone who wants to learn more about it for themselves can just google it anyways and find out as much as anyone knows and decide for themselves.
I'm just so sorry that once I knew she had the problem that I let her linger for so long. The suffering she lived thru is something I will probably pay for in hell. I always thought I'd be strong enough to put a pet down before it got that bad, but I learned I was a weak horrible pet mommy. I suppose in a way I don't deserve to even have another pet now, but at least my current cat is short haired and small and eats only special vet food and of course only uses pine litter, so I hope things go better this time and if they don't I hope I can be stronger and learn from my horrible mistakes in the past.
I no longer take the chance of feeding my cat grocery store food. I no longer take the chance of letting my cat around litter brands that I feel are dangerous. There are alternatives that let me sleep better at night... why should I take chances again when I already know how horrible things can go wrong? I try to learn from my mistake. I try real hard. If someone else can learn from my mistake instead of their own... then that is great but I don't judge someone who doesn't either. Pet mommies have to do what THEY feel is best, not what I feel.
>> Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds >> of litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > reported the same thing, and I have yet to be able to find any documented > cases. treeline12345@yahoo.com - 18 Feb 2006 10:03 GMT > > Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds > > of litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > specialist says it is not a valid concern, the Tufts cat newsletter reported > the same thing, and I have yet to be able to find any documented cases. http://www.cah.com/dr_library/litter.html "On the other hand, Dr. Amy Marder, animal behaviorist and clinical assistant professor at Tufts University School of Veterinary Medicine, has heard stories from veterinarians and veterinary technicians about cases where (they believe) clumping litter caused a problem. "But these cases are rare and anecdotal," says Dr. Marder. "No one has collected the data." "
Why not search the National Library of Medicine for any articles about litter and clay? Myself, I'm not pleased with bentonite and stuff. But if clay is completely harmless, I would like to know. In the meantime I use SwheatScoop which is wheat based.
Theoretically, bentonite can clog up a system, human or feline if not careful. It can be dangerous. Actually, it's not so theoretical but is a possible problem with those interested in cleansing their colons. Since cats are not water loving, this could be a problem. But how much can a cat eat cleaning paws?
Here's a summary that sounds pretty reasonable:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/post?hl=en&inreplyto=8 cbab5563bf00093&reply_to=group&_done=%2Fgroup%2Frec.pets.cats.health%2Bbehav%2Fb rowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fb0f2b8806d9fd173%2F1661529beedce970%3Flnk%3Darm%26hl%3Den%2 6
"The one article sure to be cited is one that appeared in "tiger tribe" magazine a few years ago warning of the dangers of clumping litter, and it's being responsible for the death of several kittens. The author says that the vet told her the litter was responsible for the deaths. What the people who cite this article don't ever say is that in the very next issue, the woman's vet wrote a letter to the editor saying she had been misquoted, it wasn't so much that the litter caused the death as much as it was a contributing factor in the subsequent death of already sick kittens. I personally have not seen any problems (in my own cats or clients cats/kittens), nor have any of the vets I know personally or have heard at the seminars I've attended, nor have I seen anything in the journals or trade magazines. About a year ago, the U-Illinois Vet School did a literature search and did not find any published information to support that it is a danger. So, is it a problem? As to obstructing intestines and causing death...I'm skeptical and maybe I've just been lucky, but I haven't seen any evidence to change my opinion, but I certainly would change my opinion if there is anything substantiated. Anything I've heard to date is anecdotal and again, seems to tie in with that one article. I DO feel that it is dustier, and many of my allergic/asthmatic cats have more respiratory problems when using it. Basically, do what you are comfortable with.
James Richards, DVM Director, Cornell Feline Health Center in the March 1998 issue of CatWatch, the Cornell University of Veterinary Medicine Newsletter for Cat People
NanCe - 17 Feb 2006 17:13 GMT >Clumping clay litter that contains sodium bentonite is extremely dangerous >for your felines as when ingested during normal grooming from the paws, it >forms hard clumps in their digestive tracts which can cause anything from >pain to death. If you're using a product that fits this description and >most especially if you have a long haired cat that gets quite a bit of >litter stuck to their fur, I'd say that was a pretty dangerous combination. There are no cases of cats dying from ingesting litter on record anywhere. There is only one case of a dog having clumping litter inside of him and he ate a lot of it out of the cat's box.
>Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds of >litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that damages [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >nothing good to say about clay litters, and most especially about clumping >clay litters. Thousands upon thousands of cats have used regular litter throughout the years and are fine and lived to a ripe old age. My sister's 23 year old cat has used nothing but. The only cases of silica problems are in miners who work in the mines and inhale large amounts. If a cat has asthma, then perhaps a different litter is in order, but wheat and corn also have dust.
Sorry about your cat but was an autoposy done? That would have been the only way to tell if it was clumping litter.
NanCe
Margarita Salt - 17 Feb 2006 17:30 GMT NanCe via CatKB.com <u18214@uwe> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> Thousands upon thousands of cats have used regular litter > throughout the years and are fine and lived to a ripe old age. My > sister's 23 year old cat has used nothing but. The only cases of > silica problems are in miners who work in the mines and inhale > large amounts. If a cat has asthma, then perhaps a different > litter is in order, but wheat and corn also have dust. Kami has never had a problem with clumping litter except for when it clumps on her toes. Even though she's asthmatic, all I had to alter was switching from scented to unscented and she doesn't have a problem.
 Signature Margarita Salt
"...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt
PawsForThought - 17 Feb 2006 18:01 GMT Thousands upon thousands of cats have used regular litter throughout the
> years and are fine and lived to a ripe old age. My sister's 23 year old cat > has used nothing but. Speaking of old cats, I had a terrible experience with clumping litters and my 17 year old cat. She was very ill with CRF at the time, so couldn't move out of the box very fast. Anyway, she got some of the clumping litter stuck between her toes. I tried wiping it off, soaking her paws, etc., but it was on there like cement. Finally ended up having to use small cuticle scissors to cut it out from between her toes. I swore after that to never use that stuff again. These days we're using Swheat Scoop. I've also used Cat Country Organic and another natural one which name escapes me now.
Lauren
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