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Totally OT: I don't think I want chicken nuggets any more.

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kaeli - 22 Mar 2004 16:34 GMT
Ewww.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/22/1079939581660.html

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One vital nugget of information: product may not contain chicken

By Kirsty Needham
March 23, 2004

Warm, bite-sized and sort-of white, they are the favoured fast food of
millions of children who believe they are eating chicken.

Twenty-five years after the first boneless, reconstituted chunk was sold
to McDonald's by a supplier, the chicken nugget leads sales of "value-
added" poultry products.

It is a "McFrankenstein creation", according to the New York judge who,
in a court case involving McDonald's last year, identified a long list
of nugget ingredients, including "anti-foaming agent".

A large Australian chicken processor describes a nugget as a mouthful of
batter, water, soybean (sometimes passing as chicken), skin, fat and -
entirely dependent on how much you've paid - chicken meat particles.

In 2002, the Australian Consumers Association tested 14 popular nugget
brands. The study found chicken filling often made up less than half of
each nugget. Fat per average serve was as high as 31 grams. And none
contained real chicken chunks, but "manufactured" or "formed" chicken.

The consumer group wants tougher labelling. "The labels won't say if 57
per cent chicken is a nice piece of chicken breast or skin and off-
cuts," says its food policy officer, Clare Hughes.

Philip Tana, manager of operations and part-owner of Red Rooster, does
not like the term "manufactured" chicken. "We prefer 'further-
processed' chicken. The chicken is still grown and they then harvest the
meat."

Red Rooster nuggets are 56 per cent "formed" chicken, but Mr Tana says
the ingredients are "not different to what any housewife or chef would
use.

"If we took them off the menu there would be an outcry."

Perth-based Canon Foods processes 80 million nuggets each year. Chief
executive Richard Pace says

chicken is ground to five-millimetre particles, then skin and soybean
added with water to make an emulsion.

Canon's nuggets vary depending on the client, with the more expensive
one containing white meat. An average nugget contains one-third batter,
up to 10 per cent water, and skin.

"Depending on the price, water can be a replacement for chicken to make
the nugget cheaper," Mr Pace says. Soybean is also often used as a
chicken substitute, but not by Canon, he says.

Steggles recently changed its nugget recipe to lower the fat and salt
level and whiten the meat.

McDonald's Australia would not comment on whether the recipe used here
was the same as that in the US, described by the New York judge as
having "twice the fat of a hamburger".

A spokeswoman said local nuggets were "65 per cent chicken".

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I REALLY don't think I want "chicken" nuggets any more.
This is disgusting.

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PawsForThought - 22 Mar 2004 16:58 GMT
>From: kaeli tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net

>Ewww.
>
>http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/22/1079939581660.html

>It is a "McFrankenstein creation", according to the New York judge who,
>in a court case involving McDonald's last year, identified a long list
>of nugget ingredients, including "anti-foaming agent".

If you think that's bad, just think what goes into pet food and how it's made.
I have a list around here somewhere of the additives.  I'll try to find it and
post it.

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AK - 22 Mar 2004 17:22 GMT
> Ewww.
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/22/1079939581660.html

There was a TV documentary about Chicken Nuggets here in the UK about 2
years ago, to be honest when you know that sub standard chicken is used in
the first place and everything goes in the pot, feathers, bones, guts -
everything and it is all ground up............................you would
never eat a chicken nugget again.  McDonalds couldn't give away Chicken
nuggest for months afterwards and I don't think they have ever recovered, I
know my local McD's sells 20 chicken nuggets for the same price as what 6
used to cost!
Karen - 22 Mar 2004 18:21 GMT
They taste like that too. Never been fond of those.

Karen

> Ewww.
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> I REALLY don't think I want "chicken" nuggets any more.
> This is disgusting.
Sherry - 22 Mar 2004 18:34 GMT
>They taste like that too. Never been fond of those.
>
>Karen

Me either.. McD's chicken nuggets don't even taste remotely like homemade ones.

Sherry
Steve G - 22 Mar 2004 20:16 GMT
(...)

> A large Australian chicken processor describes a nugget as a mouthful of
> batter, water, soybean (sometimes passing as chicken), skin, fat and -
> entirely dependent on how much you've paid - chicken meat particles.

Well, none of these things are bad in themselves - though I suppose it
is nice to get chicken when you think you are getting chicken.

(...)

> I REALLY don't think I want "chicken" nuggets any more.
> This is disgusting.

Hardly news though. The same applies to almost any highly processed
meat products - cheap hotdogs, sausages and pies spring to mind.
Mechanically reclaimed meat is the poetic phrase that springs to mind,
IIRC.

Anyway, your standard 'real' meat is probably pumped up to the
earlobes with growth hormones and such anyway. At least the sawdust in
chicken nuggets is hormone-free...!

Steve.
kaeli - 22 Mar 2004 22:12 GMT
> Anyway, your standard 'real' meat is probably pumped up to the
> earlobes with growth hormones and such anyway. At least the sawdust in
> chicken nuggets is hormone-free...!

Well, I only buy my milk (organic) from Whole Foods these days, so I
guess now I only buy my meat there, too!

Yeesh, at this rate I'm going to have to start killing my own food.

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Steve G - 23 Mar 2004 16:34 GMT
(...)

> Well, I only buy my milk (organic) from Whole Foods these days, so I
> guess now I only buy my meat there, too!

The food bill's just gone up.

> Yeesh, at this rate I'm going to have to start killing my own food.

There's something to be said for that, though keeping a herd of beef
cattle probably ain't practical for most people. Besides, I think it's
tricky to litterbox train a cow.

Steve.
Napoleon - 24 Mar 2004 00:03 GMT
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> >
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> Well, none of these things are bad in themselves - though I suppose it
> is nice to get chicken when you think you are getting chicken.

Yeah, if you took a Buffalo wing you got at a bar and put some
soy-based salad dressing on it instead of regular bleu cheese
dressing, you get pretty much the same ingredients, although I'm sure
the proportions would be different.


> (...)
> >
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> Mechanically reclaimed meat is the poetic phrase that springs to mind,
> IIRC.

Yeah, it seems to me that the article has some elements of
sensationalism in it.  For the last half century the grocery store has
been full of formed meat products about which similar things could
probably be said.  Where's the outcry over Mrs. Paul's fish sticks?

BTW, the "anti-foaming agent" mentioned is an inert silicon compound
used in the oil to minimize the foaming when they dump food,
especially frozen food, into the hot oil (anyone who has ever deep
fried anything knows about that problem), so a small amount of it gets
onto the nugget batter when it's fried along with the oil; it's not
actually part of what goes into the nugget when it's made.  What
little there is just passes through your system.  If you ever eaten
anything at a commercial establishment cooked in a deep fat fryer, you
have injested it.  This is an example of why the article strikes me as
a little sensationalistic.

> Anyway, your standard 'real' meat is probably pumped up to the
> earlobes with growth hormones and such anyway. At least the sawdust in
> chicken nuggets is hormone-free...!
>
> Steve.
Barb - 23 Mar 2004 16:56 GMT
Pretty disgusting.  At least if you have a whole piece of chicken you know
what you are eating.

Barb
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I did it right the first time.

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