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10 year old female cat urination question.

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nadoja - 02 Feb 2006 00:11 GMT
I have a 10 year old female persian cat.  A few months ago, she has
adopted a new littter box habit.  She places her front paws in the box,
her hind paws on the edge of the box, and she squats and urinates
outside the box.  Urinary tract infection/cystits has been ruled out.
I have bought a new box since this behavior began.  She does use the
box to defecate.  I have attempted "Litterbox 101" with her, by placing
her in the box when I catch her during the act, by placing her in the
box where she finshes her business and I offer her praise and a treat.
I have also tried keeping her in close quarters (the bathroom) with her
pillow, toys, food, bed and litterbox in hopes that she would not want
to pee in her "home" - that technique was effective for a week, then
she started urinating outside the box the way she had been.  Any
suggestions on how to correct this problem?
Gail - 02 Feb 2006 00:17 GMT
Try getting another litter box and place it in the room with the old one.
Gail
>I have a 10 year old female persian cat.  A few months ago, she has
> adopted a new littter box habit.  She places her front paws in the box,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> she started urinating outside the box the way she had been.  Any
> suggestions on how to correct this problem?
Corey Kaye - 02 Feb 2006 00:17 GMT
> I have a 10 year old female persian cat.  A few months ago, she has
> adopted a new littter box habit.  She places her front paws in the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> effective for a week, then she started urinating outside the box the
> way she had been.  Any suggestions on how to correct this problem?

Get a bigger box?

I use rubbermaid storage things for litter boxes.  They're probably
24x18x12".

Also, have you ruled out arthritis in the hind end?  Perhaps it's physically
difficult for her to get into the box.

Corey
mhpdsmith@msn.com - 02 Feb 2006 22:50 GMT
My cat never goes in the litter box when he urinates but he stands on
the edge of the box and urinates in the box maybe your cat is doing the
same thing just doesn't know that it's missing the box?
---MIKE--- - 02 Feb 2006 23:06 GMT
You might try getting a larger box.  Place the present box inside of the
larger box.  This way when she stands on the edge the urine will go into
the outer box.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Henry cosmic_catluvr - 06 Feb 2006 22:16 GMT
mhpdsmith@msn.com Wrote:
> My cat never goes in the litter box when he urinates but he stands o
> the edge of the box and urinates in the box maybe your cat is doing th
> same thing just doesn't know that it's missing the box?

I know it's not a solution to the behavior, but if you are concerne
about your floors, you might try some rubber floor mats with dee
grooves that are designed to trap liquids, normally rainwater brough
in from the outdoors.  I've had similar problems with my elderly cats.
I placed 1 or 2 of these mats where they usually peed on the floor an
at least that kept the floor from being further damaged.

Henry cosmic_catluvr
St. Louis, M

--
Henry cosmic_catluvr
Corey Kaye - 07 Feb 2006 01:20 GMT
> I know it's not a solution to the behavior, but if you are concerned
> about your floors, you might try some rubber floor mats with deep
> grooves that are designed to trap liquids, normally rainwater brought
> in from the outdoors.  I've had similar problems with my elderly cats.
> I placed 1 or 2 of these mats where they usually peed on the floor and
> at least that kept the floor from being further damaged.

I've also suggested puppy training pads to a friend with a similar cat
problem.  They're not expensive, trap urine well, and are disposible.

Corey
Rene S. - 08 Feb 2006 21:58 GMT
What about using a Rubbermaid storage box that has higher sides, and
cut an opening on one of the sides, which will make it easier for her
to get in and out.
DJ - 03 Feb 2006 02:30 GMT
Maybe try a covered litter box or a Boda box.  That way she wouldn't even be
able to stand on the sides.
>I have a 10 year old female persian cat.  A few months ago, she has
> adopted a new littter box habit.  She places her front paws in the box,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> she started urinating outside the box the way she had been.  Any
> suggestions on how to correct this problem?
nadoja - 06 Feb 2006 05:12 GMT
I have replaced the box once about 2 months ago.  Funny thing is that
she sometimes gets in completely, and voids where she should, then
other times she is keeping her hind paws on the edge while her front
paws are inside and she voids outside the box.  I even tried putting
tin foil on the edge of the box (cats are not supposed to like the
feeling of this on their feet), but it did not work.  I just lowered
the height of the opening to the box so that when she stands there with
her hind legs on the edge, she does not quite fit.  Hopefully this may
help.  Keeping my fingers crossed.
nadoja - 06 Feb 2006 05:13 GMT
I have used and open box, then switched to a closed one... did not make
a difference.
Margarita Salt - 08 Feb 2006 22:23 GMT
nadoja <nadoja@gmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> I have a 10 year old female persian cat.  A few months ago, she
> has adopted a new littter box habit.  She places her front paws in
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> urinating outside the box the way she had been.  Any suggestions
> on how to correct this problem?

Kami barely gets in the box to pee.  I'm surprised she hasn't peed on
the floor with her butt sticking out like that.  She faces the other
direction--nose out the door--to poo.  Is your box open or closed?  Try
switching it.  Do you scoop it out daily?  Enough litter?  Too much
litter?

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nadoja - 14 Feb 2006 17:48 GMT
Since February 7th, I lowered the height of the opening to the closed
litter box.  I used a piece of newspaper large enough to keep her from
stanging on her hind legs on the edge of the box and taped it on.  She
now climbs into the box without any difficulty and urinates where she
is supposed to!  :-)
 
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