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Healthy cat losing weight?
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Perry Justus - 01 Feb 2006 23:16 GMT Hi,
I have a twelve and a half year old cat who seems to be losing weight despite the fact that she has a big appetite, plays a lot, and generally seems healthy. She's been somewhat overweight (not obese) since she had her second litter of kittens in 1994 but as of late she feels like she's dropped a number of pounds and has, if you'll excuse my crassness, very saggy titties. She seems particularly boney around her shoulders, but I can't really feel her spine and her ribs without applying some pressure. What's the deal? Is it just mid-age? If she's sick with something, she doesn't show it, because she seems a lot more active than some of my other cats. Also, her coat is healthier than it's been in years, for some odd reason.
Thanks, Perry
cybercat - 01 Feb 2006 23:36 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > lot more active than some of my other cats. Also, her coat is > healthier than it's been in years, for some odd reason. How do you know she is healthy? Has a vet checked her? She is about ten years old, judging from your saying that she had a second litter of kittens in 1994. She could have any number of health problems.
Perry Justus - 01 Feb 2006 23:57 GMT >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >about ten years old, judging from your saying that she had a second >litter of kittens in 1994. She could have any number of health problems. I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original post!) If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be the problem?
Perry
Corey Kaye - 02 Feb 2006 00:20 GMT > I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original > post!) If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be > the problem? Just off the top of my non-expert head: hyperthyroidism, cancer, heart disease, lung disease, infection, worms...
Take the cat to the vet :)
Corey
Perry Justus - 02 Feb 2006 00:33 GMT >> I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original >> post!) If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Corey Jeeze... I should've known better than to even ask without going through the usenet archives first. She'll be going to the vet ASAP, but we're basically poor and still paying out money for visits that happened last year (plus, the vet office has had a notice up on the wall that they won't allow anyone to pay later anymore, so we're pushing it -- I think our vet was the only one in town who would even let people do it in the first place).
Perry
Corey Kaye - 02 Feb 2006 00:40 GMT > Jeeze... I should've known better than to even ask without going > through the usenet archives first. She'll be going to the vet ASAP, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pushing it -- I think our vet was the only one in town who would even > let people do it in the first place). Well, Perry, you got answers. It could be a lot of different things. Several of them aren't serious or expensive, and several of them could be life threatening. What's an exam fee run at your clinic? At mine, it's around $30. For $30, your vet should be able to give you an idea if you're in for a lot more $$$, or just a bit.
Corey
cybercat - 02 Feb 2006 00:40 GMT > Jeeze... I should've known better than to even ask without going through the usenet archives first.
Sorry for frustrating you. Weight loss when a cat is eating as usual is just such a typical sign of illness, some serious, some not so. I am also sorry about your financial situation, I have been there. She does need to see a vet, though. There is just no way around it.
Perry Justus - 02 Feb 2006 00:58 GMT >> Jeeze... I should've known better than to even ask without going through >the usenet archives first. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >about your financial situation, I have been there. She does need to see a >vet, though. There is just no way around it. It's okay. It just really is frustrating, especially when one has as many cats as I have and not enough cash. Luckily, most of them have been extremely healthy (*knocks on wood*), so they've rarely had to see the vet, but most of them are nearing the 10 year mark or older, so I can just imagine all the problems that will start popping up...
Perry
Gail - 02 Feb 2006 01:15 GMT Yes, you're right, Perry. After 10 years, a cat is geriatric and more vulnerable to many diseases. Gail
>>> Jeeze... I should've known better than to even ask without going through >>the usenet archives first. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Perry Perry Justus - 02 Feb 2006 01:48 GMT >Yes, you're right, Perry. After 10 years, a cat is geriatric and more >vulnerable to many diseases. >Gail 10 years?! Are you sure? Cats can live to be 25-30 sometimes.
Perry
NMR - 02 Feb 2006 01:51 GMT >>Yes, you're right, Perry. After 10 years, a cat is geriatric and more >>vulnerable to many diseases. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Perry My cat precious just lived to almost 20 years we have had other cat go past 20
Gail - 02 Feb 2006 04:08 GMT An average age for an indoor only cat is about 15 or 16. Cats can live longer, but most do not. Gail
>>Yes, you're right, Perry. After 10 years, a cat is geriatric and more >>vulnerable to many diseases. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Perry Ryan Robbins - 03 Feb 2006 12:38 GMT >>Yes, you're right, Perry. After 10 years, a cat is geriatric and more >>vulnerable to many diseases. >>Gail > > 10 years?! Are you sure? Cats can live to be 25-30 sometimes. It is very rare for cats to live past 20.
NMR - 03 Feb 2006 17:36 GMT >>>Yes, you're right, Perry. After 10 years, a cat is geriatric and more >>>vulnerable to many diseases. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It is very rare for cats to live past 20. far from the truth unless they are a outside cat
MaryL - 02 Feb 2006 14:28 GMT >>> I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original >>> post!) If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Perry People are not trying to be insulting to you. The problem is, no one can diagnose anything from a distance; and *every* cat should be seen annually. Just as I see a doctor regularly, I also take my cats in for routine exams. It will be much less expensive for you -- and more "treatable" for the cat -- if you catch potential problems early and not wait until progression to a major problem.
Yes, I did read your statement that you are strapped for funds, and I am not making light of it. However, a cat that "seems normal" could still have medical issues -- and the fact that you said she has lost several pounds could be an important symptom. "Several pounds" on a cat is a *very big* change. For example, you say that she has always been somewhat overweight. So, if she weighs 15 pounds and has lost 3 for unexplained reasons, that means a loss of 20 percent of her body weight. Now, think about what that would translate into if the same thing were to happen to you. Surely you would want to check with a physician even if you felt fine. (And, it is also important to recognize that your cat may not feel as well as you presume. Cats are well-known to hide pain and discomfort as long as possible.)
MaryL
Perry Justus - 02 Feb 2006 21:13 GMT >>>> I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original >>>> post!) If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >People are not trying to be insulting to you. Where did I imply that? I was just amazed at all the potential problems.
>Yes, I did read your statement that you are strapped for funds, and I am not >making light of it. However, a cat that "seems normal" could still have >medical issues -- and the fact that you said she has lost several pounds >could be an important symptom. "Several pounds" on a cat is a *very big* >change. Well, she hasn't been weighed; she just feels lighter. She's going in for a checkup next week, but I'm hoping that she's just lost some weight because she's on a better food.
Perry
MaryL - 02 Feb 2006 21:32 GMT <snip>
>>People are not trying to be insulting to you. > > Where did I imply that? I was just amazed at all the potential > problems. Sorry, I apparently misinterpreted, and I wanted to reassure you that people were trying to give advice and not hurl insults. This is the statement that led me to believe you were taking some of the messages in a different context: "Jeeze... I should've known better than to even ask without going through the usenet archives first."
>>Yes, I did read your statement that you are strapped for funds, and I am >>not [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > for a checkup next week, but I'm hoping that she's just lost some > weight because she's on a better food. You said in your original message that she feels like she has dropped a number of pounds. If she hasn't been weighed, it is important to do so as soon as possible. I'm glad to hear that you already have a trip to the vet planned.
MaryL
> Perry Spot - 03 Feb 2006 03:29 GMT You know post like this really irritate me the sh.t out of me. Obviously if the cat is loosing weight then she needs seen by a vet.
Don't be like my idiot co-worker who for 2 months kept saying oh he's just not eating as much. I told her repeatedly to take the cat to the vets when they don't eat or loose weight something is seriously wrong. She always had some damned excuse like --- I have to pay for Williams gymnastic classes this month. I'm sorry but her damned spoiled brat kit could have done without the classes. Instead she spent the money on her ungratefull little bastard of a kid and the cat died from phenumonia.
My money might be tight to at times but when they are sick you find a way. You don't make them wait and look to a newsgroup for answers that only your vet can give you. If I hurt your feelings too bad get over it and take the cat to the vets like you should.
If you are short on funds then it's time you start setting aside money for stuff like this. I have 5 animals and I put money away every month so when the time comes in an emergency I have the money. If it's an extreme emergency I have a line of credit that I use but I make sure they are taken care of.
Celeste
>>> I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original >>> post!) If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Perry Perry Justus - 03 Feb 2006 06:13 GMT >You know post like this really irritate me the sh.t out of me. Obviously if >the cat is loosing weight then she needs seen by a vet. Read my other posts. I think it's funny that no one has even commented on the fact that she was overweight. She's not anorexic, but she has gotten skinnier. As I wrote in TWO other posts, we started giving her better quality food a little while back; why has no one replied with their thoughts on her food switch and my speculation about whether or not that's had an effect on her weight? She may have something wrong, which is why she's **going in next week**, but it's not an emergency. (Trust me, if it becomes readily apparent that one of my cats has something wrong, like a UT or respiratory infection, they go THAT DAY or as soon as possible.)
Perry
cybercat - 02 Feb 2006 00:21 GMT > >> Hi, > >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original > post!) I missed that. Sorry.
If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be
> the problem? That is what they have vets for. Take her in.
PawsForThought - 02 Feb 2006 16:15 GMT I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original
> post!) If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be > the problem? I would highly recommend she get a complete physical exam and full blood panel done. There is no way otherwise to really tell what is wrong with her. At this point, you'd just be guessing. The good news is that if you catch it early, whatever might be wrong can most likely be treated.
LAUREN
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Ryan Robbins - 03 Feb 2006 12:36 GMT > I already said that she's twelve and a half. (Reread my original > post!) If she's eating, and active, and seems normal, what could be > the problem? Hyper-thyroidism. Onset of renal failure. A whole bunch of things. Cats are masters of deception when it comes to hiding symptoms of illness.
Gail - 02 Feb 2006 00:22 GMT She needs to see a vet. Weight loss is a symptom of a health problem (ie. chronic renal failure, hyperactive thyroid, etc). Please don't delay since these conditions are treatable. Gail
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks, > Perry Perry Justus - 02 Feb 2006 01:51 GMT <snip>
I forgot to mention this, but could it be possible that she's lost weight because she's eating better food? She was overweight from the time she was two until just a few months ago, and last year we started feeding her better food because our youngest cat couldn't tolerate any other type of food. She went from eating Meow Mix, etc. to Royal Canin on a regular basis last year.
Perry
idontmind@gmail.com - 03 Feb 2006 06:41 GMT > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Perry Yes. She is getting more protein per ounce, no doubt, and less carbs. That will foster weight loss, if fed the same amount. I suspect she is eating less of it too, eh?
-L.
Perry Justus - 03 Feb 2006 07:30 GMT >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >-L. Hard to say. She's always been a big of a piglet when it comes to wet food (she'll try to intimidate whoever else is eating if it's one of my less outgoing cats, or just eat the rest if they didn't eat it all), but I must say I've never kept a watch on how often she eats the dry food, which is freely available. I just hope that there's nothing seriously wrong with her. :|
Perry
armshome@aol.com - 02 Feb 2006 13:22 GMT Perry
Please take her to the vet. My last kitty was 20 years and 3 months when we had to put him to sleep. He started loosing weight when he was about 18 - hyperthyroid. Simple blood test. Meds to alter it. I think they say cats are geriatric at 8-10 years.
The type of food would not cause the weight loss.
Bobblespin - 02 Feb 2006 14:04 GMT Perry Justus <pjustus@nospam.cox.net> wrote in
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks, > Perry Sounds identical to what we went through with our cat Tuffy when he was about 16. I turned out his kidneys were starting to go, but he lived happily for another year after diagnosis.
Barb - 02 Feb 2006 16:14 GMT Are you writing to a cat news group for a diagnosis? Am I even spelling that word correctly? Please, take your cat to a vet.
-- Barb Of course I don't look busy, I did it right the first time.
Alison - 04 Feb 2006 01:06 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks, > Perry>> Apart from the reasons already mentioned , it could be her teeth. Alison
clfr@adelphia.net - 04 Feb 2006 04:55 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks, > Perry With an apparently healthy 12.5 yr. old cat losing wieght, my first guess would be hyperthyroidism. Very common in older cats, & classic symptom is weight loss, despite eating well. Plus you say she's very active. (The entire body - all of its organs/systems - over-revs when hyperthyroid, whether human or feline.)
But it could be virtually anything. Besides a physical exam, a full blood panel would very likely pop up the probable suspect. IOW, vet time.
In the event that it actually did turn out to be hyper-T, that's actually a fairly good diagnosis IMO, in that it's relatively easy to control, once the med is regulated.
Cathy
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