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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2006Kami not eating again :(
Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this evening, but not much. She did, however, have a great interest in the sour cream from din-din. It's like a toddler that only wants junk food.  SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her > fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this > evening, but not much. She did, however, have a great interest in the > sour cream from din-din. It's like a toddler that only wants junk > food. So what does your vet say about this? Judy <wumpygirleatsnospam@yahoo.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her >> fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So what does your vet say about this? Last time it was feed her anything. I sent her an email last night and I'll wait to hear. SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her > fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Margarita Salt Seriously, at this point I would just feed her whatever she will eat. If you can get her back on Fancy feast, do it - and keep her on it. No, it's not the *best* food for her, but if it keeps her alive and she will eat it, that is what is important. Try some Nurtical and some stinky fish like sardines or tuna if you have to. Good luck, -L. -L. <gentleboa@peacemail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her >> fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Nurtical and some stinky fish like sardines or tuna if you have > to. Good luck, -L. I'm just concerned the protein level is what's making her feel icky. She was sick Sunday morning and again this morning. She asks about food, but doesn't eat it. Probably just out of habit. SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > I'm just concerned the protein level is what's making her feel icky. > She was sick Sunday morning and again this morning. She asks about > food, but doesn't eat it. Probably just out of habit. > > -- > Margarita Salt She's probably hungry but nauseated on top of feeling bad. The problem if she doesn't eat is she may go into fatty change of the liver (commonly called hepatic lipidosis) and pancreatitis, and you want to stop that from happening if you can because it pretty much starts a downward spiral in elderly cats that leads to the end. So any food is better than no food. Discus appetite simulants with the vet along with vitamin B shot (also a stimulant) and Nutrical gel. Good luck and let us know how she does. -L. -L. <gentleboa@peacemail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> I'm just concerned the protein level is what's making her feel >> icky. She was sick Sunday morning and again this morning. She [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Good luck and let us know how she does. > -L. Dr. Tina wrote back and said practically the same thing--that she has an appetite, but feels sick when she gets near the food. She told me to give her 1/2 Pepcid daily and 100cc fluids for 4 days. If she doesn't start to kick it or gets worse, bring her in. She didn't have a reply about Periactin. I said in another post that she ate cat food after her taco, and she's eating just now since we got up. I'm still going to do what the vet says. I do enjoy that I have a vet that is willing and able to utilize email. SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > Dr. Tina wrote back and said practically the same thing--that she has > an appetite, but feels sick when she gets near the food. She told me [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I do enjoy that I have a vet that is willing and able to utilize email. Yeah, that's really nice. I don't know many who will do that! -L. >>Dr. Tina wrote back and said practically the same thing--that she has >>an appetite, but feels sick when she gets near the food. She told me [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > -L. They probadly won't for the same reasons many won't participate on the newsgroups or other online forums. > They probadly won't for the same reasons many won't participate on the > newsgroups or other online forums. Well, on-line forums are more a case of liability. Email exchanges with estabished patients are more of a time-constraint issue, I would imagine. -L. > >>Dr. Tina wrote back and said practically the same thing--that she has > >>an appetite, but feels sick when she gets near the food. She told me [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > They probadly won't for the same reasons many won't participate on the > newsgroups or other online forums. Well, I for one cannot imagine what those reasons would be. : D > They probadly won't for the same reasons many won't participate on the > newsgroups or other online forums. I prefer calling mine on the phone so we can have an interactive conversation. Plus, I can't think of when he has time at a computer. He's usually treating animals. :) SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.blogspot.com/ Diane <delenn@nospamatmindspring.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> They probadly won't for the same reasons many won't participate >> on the newsgroups or other online forums. > > I prefer calling mine on the phone so we can have an interactive > conversation. Plus, I can't think of when he has time at a > computer. He's usually treating animals. :) I'd prefer that, too, but it usually involves leaving a message and waiting for her to call back. It takes time away from each of us for non-emergencies. With email, I can put the problem out there, and when she has a break she writes back. She's very thorough in her answers, so there has never been a whole volley of messages flying back and forth trying to get clarification. I do place a call if I really don't understand or really worried, but I know she does all her surgeries in the morning and I usually won't hear from her until after 3:00. It's good to know the vet's schedule and how they work. This has been the all-time easiest vet to work with in Kami's nearly 18 years. SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > Diane <delenn@nospamatmindspring.com> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > It's good to know the vet's schedule and how they work. This has been > the all-time easiest vet to work with in Kami's nearly 18 years. Well then I suggest you use her for your advice rather than this group... which you consider "mostly useless" as you have suggested in the past. > I'd prefer that, too, but it usually involves leaving a message and > waiting for her to call back. It takes time away from each of us for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Margarita Salt Sounds like an excellent set up. I hate playing phone tag with people. -L. <idontmind@gmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> I'd prefer that, too, but it usually involves leaving a message >> and waiting for her to call back. It takes time away from each [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > -L. Me too. I hate it when I get a voicemail that says essentially "call me." If they would tell me what they're calling about, I can probably have everything they need to know prepared when I return the call. On the reverse side, my bosses irk me because I'll leave a detailed message and they call back and say, "Oh, I didn't listen to it. I just saw that you called." Grrr. SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > <idontmind@gmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > message and they call back and say, "Oh, I didn't listen to it. I just > saw that you called." Grrr. Apparently you haven't discovered yet that a busy boss doesn't have time to listen to long-winded voice mail messages from incompetent staff that doesn't know how to communicate effectively via the phone. :-D > Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her > fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this > evening, but not much. She did, however, have a great interest in the > sour cream from din-din. It's like a toddler that only wants junk > food. ...and you seriously think you can pull this one off in here again. I don't doubt there is an issue, but given your reaction the last time... don't turn blue waiting for responses. I feel for the cat and you have already been given advice on this, but man... what a drama/attention Queen the owner is. > > Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her > > fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I feel for the cat and you have already been given advice on this, but > man... what a drama/attention Queen the owner is. Ya know, Joe, as much as I have disliked Brandy in the past (and I did), the fact is, she hads an ailing geriatric cat, and that is hard to cope with. We all love our animals despite how we may care for them differently, whether or not we believe in declawing (or anything else) and what approaches we take to their care. It's gotta hurt knowing that your cat is sick and may possibly die. I don't care how much you or Phil, or whomever, want to chastise her for seeking help or support here, she still has the right to do so, and I, for one, will support her if she needs it. Losing a pet sucks, big time. Dealing with a sick elderly pet is like dealing with a sick kid for a lot of people - especially when you have had the animal 15, 16 years or more. Sometimes it's best to put away your differences and your bickering and try to be a little bit human. -L. >> > Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her >> > fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >-L. It's worse than dealing with a sick human. You can explain things to a human. I wish the best for Kami. Perhaps warming food will help. >>>Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her >>>fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > -L. I made that distinction in my post, regarding the welfare of the cat despite certain issues with the owner. However, despite good intentions there is nothing any of us can do about Kami's situation. The responsibility for her care rests entirely with her caregiver. We have no influence over that. I'd suggest Brandy discuss all this with her vet, considering she always says this vet is the "best one in the world". As per Brandy, no one in this group is qualified to give advice unless they are a vet. If you want to see that comment from her first hand, you'll need to do some digging with Google Group and hope someone quoted it. In any case, I've said what I have to say about it. >> Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her >> fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I feel for the cat and you have already been given advice on this, but >man... what a drama/attention Queen the owner is. Her cat is getting old, Joe. She's concerned. This is the place where she can post about what is going on with her cat, and connect with other cat lovers. Charlie Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >>> Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave >>> her fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Charlie Don't worry. His ugliness is plonked, and I wouldn't even see it if you would just ignore him, too. SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her > fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this > evening, but not much. She did, however, have a great interest in the > sour cream from din-din. It's like a toddler that only wants junk > food. Have you contacted her vet? You might want to ask him about an appetite stimulant such as Periactin. PawsForThought <Mickey4Paws@anonymous.to> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her >> fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Have you contacted her vet? You might want to ask him about an > appetite stimulant such as Periactin. I put that in the email I sent her this morning. SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > PawsForThought <Mickey4Paws@anonymous.to> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I put that in the email I sent her this morning. Didn't "the best vet in world" suggest warming up her food and maybe adding a little warm bacon fat? A little- just a little- warm bacon fat even works wonders on k/d and x/d. > > Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave her > > fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little this [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Have you contacted her vet? You might want to ask him about an > appetite stimulant such as Periactin. That always "kick-started" my late CRF cat (sweet Cory). I really hope Kami will bounce back and have a good long time left with you, Brandy. Candace Candace <maccandace@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> > Kami stopped eating again, including the Fancy Feast. I gave >> > her fluids and a quarter Pepcid last night and she ate a little [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Candace I mentioned in another thread that I gave her a taco. Something about chicken, cheese and sour cream she can't resist. After that, I changed out the food in her bowl (even though none was eaten) and put one of the new flavors in it I picked. It seems Chicken Hearts and Livers is also irresistable. Perhaps she didn't like any of the THREE flavors I bought last time. I dunno. I can't imagine even the most obstinate cat starving itself because it wants oragn meats over fish that day (or two). I just don't understand my kid sometimes. ;) SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt >Candace <maccandace@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >cat starving itself because it wants oragn meats over fish that day (or >two). I just don't understand my kid sometimes. ;) Cats are weird Brandy. My favorite trick is when you find a food that they really like and buy a bunch. Then they decide they don't like it anymore. But I haven't tried them on tacos. Was that a real taco or a Taco Bell type? Hard or soft? dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > Cats are weird Brandy. My favorite trick is when you find a food that > they really like and buy a bunch. Then they decide they don't like it > anymore. But I haven't tried them on tacos. Was that a real taco or a > Taco Bell type? Hard or soft? It was a Taco Bell chicken soft taco. I had expected a beef taco because the combo included that and I only ordered the burrito as chicken. Kami really likes their taco meat for some reason, but I guess the chicken is probably better given her tummy and the spices at the moment. She got the chicken, some cheese and some sour cream, and I got the rest (threw out the tomatoes). SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the moment. She got the chicken, some cheese and some sour cream, and > I got the rest (threw out the tomatoes). Have you tried cooking her some ground beef or chicken with some garlic? The garlic alone might be enough to entice her. -L. >> dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > :::GASP::: That's from the ONION family!!! ;) She likes spicy, that's for sure. I'd like to find a renal recipe so I could make her something tasty that won't have too much protein. I don't blame her, even though some of the foods are stinky, they're bland. I can just tell. SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt > :::GASP::: That's from the ONION family!!! ;) Yah, I think garlic can cause that strange anemia, just like onions. Hope Kami keeps eating, even if you have to buy some air freshener... Rhonda >> :::GASP::: That's from the ONION family!!! ;) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Rhonda I don't think you caught the sarcasm with Brandy's aka Margarita Salt's comment. There was a big fuss in here a while back after she mentioned about feeding her own cat onions. We were all concerned about it for Kami's sake while Brandy was busy defending feeding onions to cats. -L. <gentleboa@peacemail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -L. Ack! I found out what entices her. You suggest something stinky, like sardines. Well, if you'd rather give your cat "real" cat food, open a can of that FF Ocean whitefish feast. Oh my lord! It's stinking up the whole house and Kami is licking her chops with great enthusiasm. She came over to thank me, but I swear, she needs to be held at arms length until that stuff wears OFF. PEEEE-YUUUUU SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt >dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >the moment. She got the chicken, some cheese and some sour cream, and >I got the rest (threw out the tomatoes). Thanks. I often commute by bike and there is a Taco Bell on the way home so sometimes I drop in. I'll pick up a chicken taco and beef taco and let the boys choose. I'm hoping that Kami keeps mowing them down. dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >>dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > beef taco and let the boys choose. I'm hoping that Kami keeps > mowing them down. BTW, it was the Chicken Supreme taco. That's how you get the sour cream. ;) SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt >Cats are weird Brandy. My favorite trick is when you find a food that >they really like and buy a bunch. Then they decide they don't like it >anymore. But I haven't tried them on tacos. Was that a real taco or a >Taco Bell type? Hard or soft? BTW, PetsMart is very familiar with me exchanging food flavors. Kami's favorite prank. ;) SignatureMargarita Salt "...practically no one in the world is entirely bad or entirely good... motives are often more important than actions." -- Eleanore Roosevelt |
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