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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2006ADVICE NEEDED ASAP
I have 2 adorable cats about 8 months old. One has been unrinating sporadically on clothing/blankets anything fabric really except for carpeting. He is huge at 17 pounds (not fat at all) and when he goes it is a huge mess. He has no medical problems. I have 2 litter boxes which I keep very clean every day. At first he was just urinating on dirty clothes in the hamper. So I bought one with a lid and put aluminum foil on top to keep him out. This morning I found that he had urinated on my 3 year old daughters bed and the other day he went on my couch! My husband and I are at a loss. We have had cats all our lives both indoor and outdoor cats and none of them had this problem. It bears mentioning that he is a very happy cat and in no way stressed. Also he is not spraying....this has been going on well before he hit puberty. My only solution that I can think of is to make him live outdoors BUT he hates it. Cries continuously on the porch and will not stop. I am desperate for help. Obviously he has some sort of fabric fetish but I can't live waking up every day to cat urine somewhere and my house smelling like urine. My husband is at the point of having him put to sleep because we can't find him a new home knowing that he will do the same to someone else's home. Any help would be greatly appreciated. We are miserable and so is our cat. > I have 2 adorable cats about 8 months old. One has been unrinating > sporadically on clothing/blankets anything fabric really except for carpeting. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > a new home knowing that he will do the same to someone else's home. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. We are miserable and so is our cat. Take him the to vet to rule out medical issues. These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to see a vet. Gail >I have 2 adorable cats about 8 months old. One has been unrinating > sporadically on clothing/blankets anything fabric really except for [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > help > would be greatly appreciated. We are miserable and so is our cat. >These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to see >a vet. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> help >> would be greatly appreciated. We are miserable and so is our cat. I'm sorry I failed to mention that he has seen a vet and has no medical issues. Any other ideas? >>These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to see >>a vet. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I'm sorry I failed to mention that he has seen a vet and has no medical > issues. Any other ideas? When was he to the vet? I'd suggest seeking a 2nd opinion. Yes, I would also seek a second opinion. This does sound like a medical problem. He could also have intersitial cystitis whereby the use of antidepressants or anti-anxiety meds can help (there is pain with urination). Please see another vet. Gail >>>These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to >>>see a vet. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I'd suggest seeking a 2nd opinion. >>>These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to see >>>a vet. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I'd suggest seeking a 2nd opinion. I first took both cats in several months ago because they had caught a intenstinal bacteria from the shelter where we got them. There were about 15 kittens in 2 cages that were turned into one larger cage and the vet said that their drinking water had to have been dirty from feces with so many kittens in such a small area. They were given antibiotics and they recovered within a few days. Then the vet said they were very healthy and checked them top to bottom and all was well. It has been several months since they have been back in to see the vet. He has been having this problem off and on since he was 3 -4 months old. Now he is 8 months. >>>>These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to >>>>see [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > since > he was 3 -4 months old. Now he is 8 months. I agree with Joe and Gail. It's time for a second opinion. >>>>These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to >>>>see [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > since > he was 3 -4 months old. Now he is 8 months. My cat Sebastian kept having urinary tract problems since he was a year and a half and his cat specific vet found nothing. He was going to put him on Ovaban for behavior which is very very bad and can cause diabetes or something else not good (don't remember). I took him to a different vet on the suggestion of a friend who was a vet tech. This vet did an ultrasound and found polyps in his bladder. He got a three-month course of antibiotics to clear it up. So I too would suggest a second opinion. Good luck! Stacey >>>>These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to see >>>>a vet. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > been back in to see the vet. He has been having this problem off and on since > he was 3 -4 months old. Now he is 8 months. But, as you say, that vet check was several months ago. Things change. Unless your vet took a urine sample and had it tested you can't come close to ruling out a medical problem. The antibiotic the vet gave them for the bacterial infection may have helped the urinary tract temporarily as I believe I had heard that it can act as an anti-inflammatory however if there is an underlying problem that won't take care of it long term. My opinion is to get the cat back to a vet (or a new vet) to address this specific problem. You can try behavior modification techniques until the cows come home and get no results if there is a medical problem causing the cat to urinate outside the box. W >>>>These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to >>>>see [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > since > he was 3 -4 months old. Now he is 8 months. > >These are the classic symptoms of a urinary tract infection. He needs to see > >a vet. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm sorry I failed to mention that he has seen a vet and has no medical > issues. Any other ideas? I think you should seek a second opinion. Some cats develop a urinary tract disease called Feline Interstitial Cystitis" which is basically inflammation of the bladder. FIC usually isn't detectable by routine urine and blood tests. FIC can cause painful urination which your cat may be associating with the litterboxes. The first-line treatment for FIC is usually canned food and a glycosaminoglycan (GAG) supplement. Best of luck, Phil > I have 2 adorable cats about 8 months old. One has been unrinating > sporadically on clothing/blankets anything fabric really except for carpeting. > He is huge at 17 pounds (not fat at all) and when he goes it is a huge mess. > He has no medical problems. Even though you may think that he has no medical problems, it's very possible that he has a urinary tract infection. Peeing inappropriately, esp. on soft surfaces, is a classic symptom of a UTI. So, before looking at it as a behavioral issue, have him checked at the vet. If it's a UTI, a course or two of antibiotic will clear up the infection. Cathy I have 2 litter boxes which I keep very clean > every day. At first he was just urinating on dirty clothes in the hamper. So > I bought one with a lid and put aluminum foil on top to keep him out. This [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > a new home knowing that he will do the same to someone else's home. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. We are miserable and so is our cat. Well it seems unanimous. Thank you so much for your input. I will make another appointment to see another vet on Monday and ask that they check specifically for a UTI as well as give him a thorough exam. I would LOVE for this to be the problem. At least it's fixable. Both of these cats are the most gentle and sweet cats I have ever had and I would hate to have to force him to be outside and disrupt the family. Thanks again and please keep your fingers crossed for him! >> I have 2 adorable cats about 8 months old. One has been unrinating >> sporadically on clothing/blankets anything fabric really except for carpeting. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> a new home knowing that he will do the same to someone else's home. Any help >> would be greatly appreciated. We are miserable and so is our cat. > >> a new home knowing that he will do the same to someone else's home. Any help > >> would be greatly appreciated. We are miserable and so is our cat. I didn't see anywhere where it said he was neutered. That might be part of it, or all of it. He needs to be neutered. Candace > Well it seems unanimous. Thank you so much for your input. I will make > another appointment to see another vet on Monday and ask that they check [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > him to be outside and disrupt the family. Thanks again and please keep your > fingers crossed for him! Rochelle, is this a new vet, or the same one? I can't help but think the original vet was not being thorough enough, and perhaps a new vet, especially one who is very good with cats, might be a better option. Good luck and please let us know how things go. Lauren I am taking him to a new vet. At least I hope I can get him in tomorrow if I call first thing in the morning. I'm going to have them both thoroughly checked out again and neutered. Crossing my fingers that I can get at least my problem kitty in tomorrow. I just steamed cleaned another spot that he just made under my daughter's bed so I'm not above begging. lol... Rochelle:) >> Well it seems unanimous. Thank you so much for your input. I will make >> another appointment to see another vet on Monday and ask that they check [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Lauren Glad you are taking him to a new vet. Please let us know what the vet says. Gail >I am taking him to a new vet. At least I hope I can get him in tomorrow if >I [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >>Lauren I took him in today and they are sending his urine sample to the lab but are positive he has a UTI. They actually brought me the sample they took from him and explained that because it was so cloudy that he had to have bacteria in his urine. They are sending it to the lab for confirmation of course and to find out exactly what kind of bacteria it is to know the best antibiotic to use. Also tomorrow morning he is going back in, along with his brother, to be neutered and then we start a antibiotic regimin for however long. It sounds odd but I'm really glad they could pin point a medical problem and this isn't behavioral. The vet seems to think that he will stop urinating inappropriately and the problem will be solved. I can't thank you all enough for your input and encouragement to see another vet. We are sticking with this one. He been doing this for years and seems very knowledgable. Not to mention he treated my kitty like he was one of his own. He even gave me a huge discount on the boys neutering and vaccines. Yay! Thanks so much, Rochelle >Glad you are taking him to a new vet. Please let us know what the vet says. >Gail [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>> >>>Lauren > I took him in today and they are sending his urine sample to the lab but are > positive he has a UTI. They actually brought me the sample they took from him [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks so much, > Rochelle God for you, Rochelle, for taking such good care of your babies. I'm glad you saw a different vet. The fact that he was not neutered can also cause a problem with inappropirate urination. Thanks for letting us know. Gail >I took him in today and they are sending his urine sample to the lab but >are [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>>> >>>>Lauren > I am taking him to a new vet. At least I hope I can get him in tomorrow if I > call first thing in the morning. I'm going to have them both thoroughly > checked out again and neutered. Crossing my fingers that I can get at least > my problem kitty in tomorrow. I just steamed cleaned another spot that he > just made under my daughter's bed so I'm not above begging. lol... > Rochelle:) Rochelle, I didn't realize he wasn't neutered. That may be part of your problem right there. Good luck and let us know what the vet says. Lauren Ok, the boys are home and the lab results are back and he does not have a UTI or any form of bacteria or anything abnormal in his urine. They noted that it was cloudy but all tests were within normal range. So now the vet is thinking it might be behavioral due to him not being neutered. As it stands now we are waiting the 6 weeks or so it may take testosterone levels to drop and crossing our fingers. If he still has this problem then the vet is going to take another urine sample and any other tests needed. Crossing our fingers for now.... Rochelle >> I am taking him to a new vet. At least I hope I can get him in tomorrow if I >> call first thing in the morning. I'm going to have them both thoroughly [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Lauren > Ok, the boys are home and the lab results are back and he does not have a UTI > or any form of bacteria or anything abnormal in his urine. They noted that it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for now.... > Rochelle I'm glad to hear that it's not a physical problem, Rochelle, although behavioral can be hard to deal with but definitely not impossible. I would recommend retraining him to the box. There are methods posted on the internet (I'll see if I can find you a good one). Another option might be to contact a behaviorist. Maybe someone who's used one will post with some suggestions. I think now that he's neutered, you should be able to retrain him to the box and hopefully the peeing incidents may even disappear on their own. You might want to start with this article here: http://cats.about.com/cs/litterboxproblems/a/urinewoes_4.htm Best of luck, Lauren See my cats: http://tinyurl.com/76tg8 > I have 2 adorable cats about 8 months old. One has been unrinating home. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. We are miserable and so is our cat. i hear ya next time he does it get a male to pee on him chase him around the house |
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