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Mr Tibbs - 22 Jan 2006 03:52 GMT
mr pussy wizard (sounds like the tootsie roll tootsie pop
commercial..mr owl?)

how would you talk a cat into not throwing up
they scarf down the food and go throw it up
TheAmazingPussyWizard@HushMail.Com - 24 Jan 2006 08:42 GMT
HOWEDY Mr Tibbs,

> mr pussy wizard

You mean 'HOWEDY The Amazing Pussy Wizard' <(@} ; ~ )  >

>  (sounds like the tootsie roll tootsie pop commercial..mr owl?)

BWEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!!

HOWEver, you may refer to The Amazing Pussy Wizard
in the familial "The", Mr Tibbs <(@} ; ~ )  > Do you mind
if The Amazing Puppy Wizard has a couple pulls off your
brewskie while HE'S holdin it, Mr Tibbs?

> how would you talk a cat into not throwing up
> they scarf down the food and go throw it up

IT AIN'T NORMAL for a critter to frequently / regularly vomit AT ALL.

Even so called hairballs, a COMMON occurence, can be  a SYMPTOM
of STRESS. Kats lick their fur of curse, and NORMALLY vomit
indigestible
STUFF like crap from MHOWESES etc., HOWEver, EXXXCESSIVE licking
and swallowin of hair is a SYMPTOM of STRESS, not normal kat behavior.

If your kitty kat is pukin even a little bit on a regular basis he is
IN JEOPARDY of suffering seriHOWES LIFE THREATENING
CHRONIC STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka
The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <(@} : -  (  >

To CURE your kitty kat's SYMPTOMS which are PROBABLY
anXXXIHOWESNESS related due to "just tellin him 'NO!' or
fear of other critters in his environment, you can DO EXXXACTLY
PRECISELY AS INSTRUCTED in you own FREE COPY of The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
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                                  A DOG Is A Dog;
                                As A KAT Is A KAT;
                            As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                            As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
                    As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
                As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.

A mammal brain is a mammal brain, Mr Tibbs. Just SUBSTITUTE the
term KAT or KITTEN or CHILD or SP-HOWES where it sez puppy or
dog and when necessary, modify the SCIENTIFIC TECHNIQUES to
suit the species you're dealin with and you'll GET your own 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS <(@} ; ~  )  >

                  ALL Critters Only Respond In
          PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                  INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
   To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                    Which We Create For Them.

               You GET The Critter You TRAINED

            In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                      FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                      SAME SAME SAME SAME,
           For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

         Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
              We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
                 And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

      ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems And 90%
       Of  DIS-EASES Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

       "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                      and you will know each other.
        If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
               and what you do not know you will fear.

                    What one fears, one destroys."
                           Chief Dan George

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                  The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )  >

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: The Amazing Jerry's take on psychobabble

Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:13:44 -0400

   You might improve the learning of folk who actually
live with and train dogs to do useful things if you
excluded everyone who uses psychobabble from your lists.

I recommend to all of you who wish to taste the flavor
of sensible animal behaviorists to read THE MISBEHAVIOR
OF ORGANISMS, Breland and Breland.

This married pair of psychologists began the long trail
of highly trained animals who are symbolized by Shamu
eating a mackrel from a girl's hand instead of eating
the much more tasty pretty girl who is exactly the size
of the natural food of killer whales, seals.  Yum!

The essay, by the way, is a chapter in B.F. Skinner's
summing up book, CUMULATIVE RECORD.  They include
a sentence which more or less says, "unless you understand
the personal history of the particular animal, and the history
of this animal's species and group, the developmental history
of the animal, you cannot effectively train the animal.

Pigs root and hen's scratch, if you try to train hens without
scratching or pigs without scratching or pigeons without pecking,
you aren't going to have much success.

A conditional reflex is one which is learned, the original
primitive reflex occurs no matter what the history of the
animal, and is hard wired.  If you train the animal to respond,
say by ringing a bell immediately before turning on a bright
light, then you've taught the animal and made his native reflex
of pupil constriction conditional upon the ringing of a bell.

Thorndyke added some terminology to this kind of training
and insisted that when you train the animal to make gross
motor responses that this learning is "instrumental", the
animal takes action and uses an instrument.

The Russian word translated as "conditional" in all other
contexts was mistranslated by Pavlov's American translator,
Horsley Gannt, as "conditioned" and so American psychology
went haring after phantasmagora.

The major theorists for the development of the language of
operant conditioning are Edward Thorndike, John Watson,
and B. F. Skinner. Their approach to behaviorism played a
major role in the development of American psychology.

They proposed that learning is the result of the application
of consequences; that is, learners begin to connect certain
responses with certain stimuli. This connection causes the
probability of the response to change (i.e., learning occurs.)

Thorndike labeled this type of learning instrumental. Using
consequences, he taught kittens to manipulate a latch (e.g.,
an instrument). Skinner renamed instrumental as "operant"
because in this learning, one is "operating" on, and is
influenced by, the environment. Where classical conditioning
illustrates S-->R learning, operant conditioning is often
viewed as R-->S learning since it is the consequence that
follows the response that influences whether the response
is likely or unlikely to occur again.

It is through operant conditioning that
voluntary responses are learned.

One should note that Russian Psychology did very well
without the operant language, and only pettifogging
university professors ought to worry about what kind
of label we attach to the learning.  Pfui!

Even Skinner understood this!

And please note if you saw the original movie, THE
MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, you saw a Chinese psychologist
who was based on Andrew Salter, CONDITIONED REFLEX
THERAPY.

Alas, Salter didn't have a Ph.D., but he basically rescued us
from the long Freudian nightmare and returned psychotherapy
to a scientific basis.  Alas, the 2nd movie didn't even cite Salter
as a source.  "...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual change of
these three fundamental processes --excitation, inhibition and
disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat
the fish and not the pretty girl?"

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

       "Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
       news:

       I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
       dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
       I do not know what started the problem but he came
       aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
       snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
       and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
       ad I took him with me everywhere.

       At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
       Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
       clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
       it was not working on his aggression problem.

       I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
       trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
       They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
       and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
       suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
       working as he was becoming more aggressive.

       I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
       away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
       on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
       use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

       I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
       ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
       LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
       University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
       had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
       gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
       have the people stop until he could get in control using
       treats, and work on clicker training.

       At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
       the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
       would not come when I called him and would run away when
       I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
       neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
       hasn't trained her dog"

       I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
       were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
       were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
       said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
       say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
       responsible for him."

       *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
       DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

       As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
       going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
       Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
       Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
       He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
       not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

       The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
       I had been working for 18 months!

       Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
       from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
       I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
       blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
       can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

       I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
       -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
       looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
       on by.

       When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
       me like "you must be out of your mind"

       The results can make a believer!!!

       Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
       Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
       in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

       He just seemed to not notice any one.

       When people talked to him or ask his name he would
       look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

       I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
       enjoy life out in public.

       If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
       was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
       Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
       toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

       My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
       dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
       out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

       I know most people would have given up on him a long time
       ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
       but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

       I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

       ================================

       From: Linda Daniel
       To: Jerry Howe
       Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
       Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

       Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
       to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
       save so many lives.  I know at times I was so frustrated I
       thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
       have but many people would have.  The world just does not
       know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
       solve problems.

       We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
       -just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
       you could meet us would be great.  I drive so I would be
       happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

       We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
       right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
       scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
       would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
       to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

       He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
       those on rollerblades!  I have always used a gentle leader
       in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
       grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

       Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
       stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose.  He never
       pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
       a hard time getting him going--at times  I think he could
       smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

       I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

       I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
       walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
       a problem with other people and dogs.

       I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
       to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
       around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
       treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
       coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
       and not move until we backed away-

       - can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
       until I get his attention with treats.

       They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
       but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
       him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
       sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
       to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
       heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

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Mr Tibbs - 25 Jan 2006 06:53 GMT
> HOWEDY Mr Tibbs,
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> if The Amazing Puppy Wizard has a couple pulls off your
> brewskie while HE'S holdin it, Mr Tibbs?

knock it out!
not too much

> > how would you talk a cat into not throwing up
> > they scarf down the food and go throw it up

> IT AIN'T NORMAL for a critter to frequently / regularly vomit AT ALL.

> Even so called hairballs, a COMMON occurence, can be  a SYMPTOM
> of STRESS. Kats lick their fur of curse, and NORMALLY vomit
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> CHRONIC STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka
> The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <(@} : -  (  >

this makes perfect sense

> A mammal brain is a mammal brain, Mr Tibbs. Just SUBSTITUTE the
> term KAT or KITTEN or CHILD or SP-HOWES where it sez puppy or
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>     To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
>                      Which We Create For Them.

                You GET The Critter You TRAINED

>              In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
>                        FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
>                        SAME SAME SAME SAME,

>             For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

hmmmm

this is uncharted?...

love is love is love

> I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
> on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> inappropriate fearfulness
> aggression.

this is extremely conclusive

> The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
> graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
> the intervening time working with animals (including the
> human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
> in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
> see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

this is excellente' - I feel like I know all there is to know now.
I mean...it's like the feeling you get when you learn that one should
"seal" concrete before painting it. (it keeps moisture from getting
under the paint) No relation, other than the
joy of learning something that makes you feel...like a know it all...

this really underlines you're statement - "You get the animal you
train"

> You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
> animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

oh come'on now...hehehe
SAY IT ISN'T SO PUSSY WIZARD!!!
ROFLMAO

I don't know how many times...i have thought this.

Nervous owner, nervous dog, I HAVE observed this behavior

I have gone to folks homes and went to pet their dog, and the dog
hunkers down like Im going to slap him...I think to myself...mhmmm,
they must slap at this dog...
here is the proof.

So, for the cat owner whos cat consistently throws up...
we should feed them like we feed ourselves...

meaning...

If I put a steak and potatoe on my plate and SLAMITDOWNMYGULLET
I am likely to hurl.

so how to feed a cat like we eat...

I do not eat with the idea I am having to compete

all told...I eat when I want to....

For someone who uses can food, maybe some dry food always out
would teach the cat *food is not an issue, you don't have to hurry*

For 3 cats in one home, I can see where the kids fight over the food
kids with no manners...Im going to eat off of any plate I can get my
mouth on...
this is how children might act.

You say...feed the cats in a way that is effective for humans?

Im lost.

Im trying to get 3 cats to not compete for food

You think a can of pennies might train a cat not to disrespect the
others plates?

Thanks Mr Pussy Wizard

You can give me my beer back now...please

hey!  

oh well...
me mind is happy with new learning.

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