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Yeast Infection in Ears
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Stacey - 19 Mar 2004 05:40 GMT My 8 month old kitten has a yeast infection in his ears. This is the second time he's gotten it. I would like to clean his ears so the drops are more effective. Does any one have suggestions for cleans his ears and preventing the infection?
Thank you,
Stacey
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Liz - 20 Mar 2004 00:35 GMT > My 8 month old kitten has a yeast infection in his ears. This is the second > time he's gotten it. I would like to clean his ears so the drops are more [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Stacey Yeast infections are indicative of a weak immune system. I suggest you give him a better quality food and some B vitamins for at least a month. Wish your kitty well.
Stacey - 20 Mar 2004 07:04 GMT > > My 8 month old kitten has a yeast infection in his ears. This is the second > > time he's gotten it. I would like to clean his ears so the drops are more [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > give him a better quality food and some B vitamins for at least a > month. Wish your kitty well. He was on Nutro Kitten dry and Wellness canned. I don't know how I could give him much better food. He had a URI before I got him and was on antibiotics. The vet had me put him on a bland diet of turkey and chicken (no onion powder!) baby food and boiled chicken breast because of loose stools since he first arrived. It persisted and he had me give the kitten Metronidizole for bacteria infection. Two fecal tests showed no parasites, even had them sent out to a lab.
Do they make cat B vitamins or do I give him human? A B-complex? How much?
Thanks,
Stacey
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Liz - 20 Mar 2004 16:50 GMT > > > My 8 month old kitten has a yeast infection in his ears. This is the > second [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Stacey The food sounds good but his absorption is probably impared because of lose stools. Try adding some raw to his diet. It´s imperative that his stools go back to normal. I don´t have Wellness here or Nutro nowadays so I couldn´t try those but Eukanuba chicken and rice was the only one that my cat with colitis could eat without problems (colitis and IBD seem to be the same thing). Now he´s back to raw only cuz Eukanuba here is outrageously expensive and he´s doing great. You can give him the same dose as a human supplement of Bs (only Bs) because the excess is easily eliminated in the urine or to save money, cut the human tablet in half.
Cheryl, so glad to know it worked wonders for your kitty. Bs are really wonder stuff for the immune system.
Stacey - 23 Mar 2004 07:20 GMT > > > Yeast infections are indicative of a weak immune system. I suggest you > > > give him a better quality food and some B vitamins for at least a [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > is easily eliminated in the urine or to save money, cut the human > tablet in half. This is a stupid question, but raw what? Chicken, turkey, beef? Ground up or whole? White meat, dark? B complexes come in different strengths such as 50 mg., 100 mg, 500 mg., etc. Which one?
Thanks!
Stacey
Liz - 20 Mar 2004 18:32 GMT I just remembered something: I think Cheryl saw the first normal stools in years with Wellness canned. Perhaps if you remove Nutro and give only Wellness canned his stools will go back to normal. Oh, and when I say Bs, I mean B complex. :)
Cheryl - 21 Mar 2004 00:26 GMT > I just remembered something: I think Cheryl saw the first normal > stools in years with Wellness canned. Perhaps if you remove Nutro and > give only Wellness canned his stools will go back to normal. Oh, and > when I say Bs, I mean B complex. :) Nope, not me. Shadow never liked Wellness canned. The only improvement I've seen with his stools was when I tried to make a homemade diet. He wasn't interested in eating my cooking long-term, though. Short-term, no problem.
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Liz - 21 Mar 2004 13:51 GMT > > I just remembered something: I think Cheryl saw the first normal > > stools in years with Wellness canned. Perhaps if you remove Nutro and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > seen with his stools was when I tried to make a homemade diet. He wasn't > interested in eating my cooking long-term, though. Short-term, no problem. Oops, sorry about that. I got this idea from the following:
[Cheryl wrote in thread "First normal poo in months"]
"Not sure, it could be a combination of things. First, I've gotten him on mostly canned food (equal mix of California Natural chicken and brown rice and Friskies prime filet turkey) from so many people's insistance, even though the vet said there wasn't much difference between dry and canned (depending on the dry of course) other than water. I've taken him off the pepcid and the interferon. I give him glutamine (600mg) every *other* day (couldn't find a happy medium between the high dosage suggested by some and the lower by some others since I couldn't get guidence from the 3rd vet I've been to since all this, so settled for every other day until I can get confirmation -- which of course I have numbers to call but haven't yet.) I still have to find other canned he'll eat because eventually he's going to get tired of what he gets now, knowing him. He gets only a small amount (~1/3 cup) of dry per day (100% Wellness now) and he usually leaves some uneaten but today he hasn't. This diet may not be perfect but I believe it is working and both cats have adjusted to it. Bonus."
So I mixed up the reply in my memory. I forgot the canned products and remembered the name Wellness. Oh well. So Stacey, above´s something that might work for your kitty to get his stools looking good.
Cheryl - 21 Mar 2004 16:15 GMT > He gets only a small amount > (~1/3 cup) of dry per day (100% Wellness now) and he usually leaves > some uneaten but today he hasn't. This diet may not be perfect but I > believe it is working and both cats have adjusted to it. Bonus." I remember that post. lol The Wellness is dry. He gets even less of it than that now. At this point, though, nothing helps the diarrhea. I'm starting to think it has a lot to do with the FeLV in addition to the IBD. He seems comfortable despite the diarrhea. Good appetite.
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Liz - 22 Mar 2004 01:43 GMT Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> I remember that post. lol The Wellness is dry. He gets even less of it > than that now. At this point, though, nothing helps the diarrhea. I'm > starting to think it has a lot to do with the FeLV in addition to the IBD. > He seems comfortable despite the diarrhea. Good appetite. Cheryl, if I were you, I´d definitively switch him to raw only and *only* meats. Forget vegetables in the recommended raw diets. That will certainly stop his diarrhea. I am far more concerned with diarrhea than I would be with a risk of food intoxication because of steroids and FeLV. If you buy meats from reputable sources and freeze before you serve, the risk is minimal. But I know you´re the one who needs to feel comfortable with that decision. I only wish your kitty the best. :)
Cheryl - 23 Mar 2004 00:15 GMT c864320@yahoo.com (Liz) dumped this in news:12c83831.0403211643.2c7a0050 @posting.google.com on 21 Mar 2004:
> Cheryl, if I were you, I?d definitively switch him to raw only and > *only* meats. Forget vegetables in the recommended raw diets. That > will certainly stop his diarrhea. <sigh> I would if he'd eat it. As it is, he's pushing trying to get on an all dry diet again like what happened two years ago. This time I recognize it and won't give in, but he's stubborn. He's very pissed about Bonnie getting dry to eat (and I do mean pissed. You can see it in his face, plus the way he runs after me when I separate her to eat and he tries to run in before me). He's no dummy. I just got him back on regular meals after he's been refusing his canned lately.
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> diarrhea than I would be with a risk of food intoxication because of > steroids and FeLV. If you buy meats from reputable sources and freeze > before you serve, the risk is minimal. But I know you?re the one who > needs to feel comfortable with that decision. I only wish your kitty > the best. :) Thank you, and he thanks you for your best wishes. We need best wishes for Bonnie to eat what everyone else eats. She is easily stressed and when I was trying everything to get her to eat canned food, she pulled her fur out and refused to eat anything. She might not have the best diet on dry but she is calm and not stressing over mealtimes. There is plenty of time to try again later.
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Liz - 24 Mar 2004 01:01 GMT > c864320@yahoo.com (Liz) dumped this in news:12c83831.0403211643.2c7a0050 > @posting.google.com on 21 Mar 2004: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > on dry but she is calm and not stressing over mealtimes. There is plenty > of time to try again later. Cheryl, my heart goes out to you. You really do have finicky babies, let me tell you that! ;)
Cheryl - 24 Mar 2004 01:09 GMT c864320@yahoo.com (Liz) dumped this in news:12c83831.0403231601.31745044 @posting.google.com on 23 Mar 2004:
> Cheryl, my heart goes out to you. You really do have finicky babies, > let me tell you that! ;) Spoiled, more like it. <sigh> I guess they know I give in but when you've been through hepatic lipidosis, you get paranoid about anorexia. The pulling fur out thing threw me, though. lol
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Stacey - 23 Mar 2004 07:17 GMT This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What about the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that?
Thanks,
Stacey
> Cheryl <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message > > I remember that post. lol The Wellness is dry. He gets even less of it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > needs to feel comfortable with that decision. I only wish your kitty > the best. :) Cheryl - 24 Mar 2004 00:42 GMT 2004:
> This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What > about the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that? My two that eat canned food, including Shadow with the IBD, both eat Pro Plan Chicken and Rice. From what I understand, rice is easier to digest than corn or wheat. Some home-cooked diets for IBD cats that I've seen include rice with the meat. There used to be a commercial cat food called Petreet that had a layer of rice under the layer of chicken cat food. Shamrock LOVED it. It came from Italy and I'm not sure why it was discontinued. I wrote to Petco to ask but they never replied. I'm not sure I really want to know now; probably didn't pass requirements here in the US or something. He only ate it for about 6 months, IIRC.
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Liz - 24 Mar 2004 00:59 GMT > This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What about > the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that? > > Thanks, > > Stacey My cats don´t like rice but that´s only my cats (I have 14) but they LOVE pasta or any wheat product - bread included. I suggested that Cheryl ignore the vegetables because her cat has IBD as does one of mine. I tried adding some squash to his meat and it gave him a terrible diarrhea, that´s why I recommended against it. My cat´s IBD is beyond doubt related to fiber but not all fibers affect him; yet I still do not know which kinds do and which don´t. I just know some foods that he can eat and some he can´t. For instance, he can eat white bread but not whole bread. Cats don´t need vegetables or carbohydrates at all so if you want to stick to a strickly raw meat diet (you can allow him to eat grass though, they really love grass), that´s fine but you need to do some studying to know what supplements he would need. There are groups you can join that will help you through it and I´ll help too if you´re interested. Back to your question, there´s no harm in giving rice if your cat will eat it and if it doesn´t affect his stools. Just don´t give him more than 20% of his total food intake of rice because cats really need high amounts of protein.
Cheryl - 20 Mar 2004 07:10 GMT > Yeast infections are indicative of a weak immune system. I suggest you > give him a better quality food and some B vitamins for at least a > month. Ah yes. You were the one that recommended the B's for Shadow's yeast problems. I've been giving him B complex (part of a capsule, though some say cats with IBD can't absorb it in that form and need injectable) but it has worked wonders. His ears are perfectly clear these days. They literally used to ooze wax/whatever and he had to have them constantly cleaned out.
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