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Charley's human - 16 Jan 2006 19:04 GMT
for teaching a cat to use a scratching post instead of the furniture.

Thanks!  Michelle
NMR - 16 Jan 2006 19:08 GMT
> for teaching a cat to use a scratching post instead of the furniture.
>
> Thanks!  Michelle

http://www.fanciers.com/cat-faqs/behavior.shtml
http://www.fanciers.com/general.html
chas - 16 Jan 2006 22:15 GMT
Try putting two valerian drops on a tissue and then rubbing it over the
scratching post or anywhere else you want the cat to go.

Apparently cats love it. Mine does. It has the same effect as cat mint.

DO NOT GIVE TO THE CAT IN FOOD OR WATER.

chas
.oO rach Oo. - 16 Jan 2006 23:49 GMT
cat nip, cat  nip, cat nip.

That and having the cat watch you scratching it too.

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.oO rach Oo.

> for teaching a cat to use a scratching post instead of the furniture.
>
> Thanks!  Michelle
-L. - 17 Jan 2006 11:34 GMT
> for teaching a cat to use a scratching post instead of the furniture.
>
> Thanks!  Michelle

A scratching post is usually useless - what you need is a cat tree.  I
think Megan has some good info on the anti-declaw site.  Check out the
section on understanding scratching behavior and how to keep your cats
from scratching inappropriately.

http://www.stopdeclaw.com

-L.
Charley's human - 17 Jan 2006 20:02 GMT
Thanks for all of your replies.  I'm checking out the suggested
websites as we speak...er, so to speak.  ;-)  Btw, where does one find
valerian oil?

Thanks!  Michelle
TheAmazingPussyWizard@HushMail.Com - 18 Jan 2006 09:30 GMT
HOWEDY Charley's human,

Need tips, hints....for teaching a cat to use
a scratching post instead of the furniture.

Thanks!  Michelle

          ==========

Here's ALL the INFORMATION you need to CURE ALL your
kat's heelth, temperament and behavior problems caused
by REPRESSION INTIMIDATION and offering and witholding
bribes attention and affection aka STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Pussy Wizard's Syndrome <(@} ; ~ )  >

                  <{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>
      <{#}: ~ } >                         < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } > http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u  < { ~ :{@}>
      <{#}: ~ } >                         < { ~ :{@}>
             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>
                  <{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>

Just substitute the words dog or puppy with kat,
kitten, child or SP-HOWES on accHOWENT of <(@} : ~  )  >

                    ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS
                           ARE CAUSED BY
                             MISHANDLING.

    ALL Critters Only Respond In PREDICTABLE INNATE
    NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways
    To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                      Which We Create For Them.

     "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
                        Never Change,
        Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
        Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
                 For All Handler's And All Dogs,
                 ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD,
                      NEARLY INSTANTLY,
       As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
       FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
                The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )  >

                               A Dog Is A Dog
                              As A Kat Is A Kat
                           As A Birdie Is A Birdie
                           As A Child Is A Child
                  As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES
              As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer

         Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
              We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
                 And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

            In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                      FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                      SAME SAME SAME SAME,
           For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov.

"Postitive emotions arising in connection with
the perfection of a skill, irrespective of its
pragmatic significance at a given moment, serve
as the reinforcement. IOW, emotions, not outside
rewards, are what reinforces any behavior," Pavlov.

"All animals learn best through play," -- Konrad Lorenz

"Complex activities are LEARNED MORE QUICKLY
through OBSERVATION (copying, if you will) than
by trial and error with reinforcemet (Luchins,)."

Pavlov Told Us So 100 Years Ago. Sam Corson,
Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH
Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The
Scientific Management Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

It's unfortunate the KAT LOVERS here have givin you some of
the MOST BRUTAL advice available in creation on sindy SADIST
mooreon's k9web page. She's a MENTAL CASE.

The links you've been given advise you to bribe scold and spray
aversives in your kat's face DESPITE that Dr. Christianne Schelling
the VETERINARIAN ADVISING you to do so likeWIZE SEZ "DO NOT
PUNISH  YOUR KAT" for scratching.

                   What a hipocrite!

               YOU TOO for that matter!

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop

> From: "diannes" <dian...@bolt.sonic.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Counter Cruising must stop

> > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > I wrote:
> > > > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > > On another note: I understand why someone
> > > > > proclaiming a method that works on all dogs,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.

> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.

> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that
> > > leap.

> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.

> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:

Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.

> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.

This is not negative reinforcement.  Negative means no.

Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;

Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;

Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;

The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;

Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .

There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? --  too aversive.

I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD.  Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.

NO PUNISHMENT.

Must pay attention to who is the animal?

His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog?  So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.

I suppose I could wire up  a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than the
methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.

Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.

Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.

You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.

Fondly, Dr. Von

                      ------------------

Your kat is DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE
aka The Pussy Wizard's Syndrome <(@}:* ~ ( > JUST LIKE HOWE
most of the kat abusing mental case's kats who SHARE THE SAME
SAME SAME SAME PROBLEMS for the SAME SAME SAME SAME
REASONS:

From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 9 Oct 2005 12:01:47 -0700

Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

At least I know that I'm not alone concerning Charley's fetish about
closed doors.  :-)  I suspect that our lack of a clear cut schedule
exacerbates the issue, as IBen pointed out.  And lots of times, he is
segregated in a room with all of his needs met, except for his desire
to be out and about.  However, I may try the catnip.  And we are trying

very hard to ignore him when he throws a fit--but gee, he can be
persistent.  I would be absolutely THRILLED if Charley would simply lay

down and take a nap with me.  Nothing better than a cuddly kitty.  But
Charley is just awfully busy.

Thanks for the commiserating and the ideas!
Michelle

I have a one year old neutered male cat who is totally offended by
closed doors.  Due to our odd sleep schedules, we often nap in the
afternoon.  When one of us lays down, we close the door because the
cat, Charley, is likely to come in and play around or talk.  He's
really quite chatty.  Although he has the whole run of the house and
others may still be up to keep him company, he must go to the napper's
door and meow, stick his paw under the door and rattle it, or leap for
the door knob trying to open it.  This behavior usually gets him
stashed in another bedroom, and I usually go and lay down with him to
quiet him.  Lately, even that hasn't helped.  He pitches a hissy fit
that lasts around 15 minutes before finally resigning himself to the
inevitable.  Of course, the latter wouldn't be necessary if he'd just
leave the napper's door alone.

Any ideas?  Insight?  All thoughts appreciated.

Thanks!  Michelle

> Thanks for all of your replies.  I'm checking out the suggested
> websites as we speak...er, so to speak.  ;-)  Btw, where does
>  one find valerian oil?
>
> Thanks!  Michelle

           You DON'T NEED valarian for your kat.

       YOU NEED A PSYCHIATRIST for yourself JUST LIKE
       your KAT LOVER PALS got for themselves. YOUR
       KAT IS DYIN RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU on
       accHOWENT of YOU ABUSE HIM. Here's your own
       POSTED CASE HISTORY of ABUSING YOUR DEATHLY
       ILL KAT <(@}:* ~ (  >

From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 4 Apr 2005 12:06:22 -0700

Subject: Re: Vomiting cat

My sincere thanks to everybody for their suggestions!

Charley was at the vet about a month ago for neutering and received a
clean bill of health at that time.  If his behavior had changed I might

be concerned about a new illness, but he's incredibly energetic.

As it is, I do feed him some canned food twice day--it was my
understanding the free feed of dry and with twice daily servings of the

wet was supposed to be best for kittens.  However, Charley wakes up
before I do and wolfs down the dry chow.  Then I wake up to a
"present".

From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 19 Dec 2005 09:40:48 -0800

Subject: Cat acts fine, but is hardly eating

My 1 year old neutered male is acting as playful and active as usual,
but for the past 24 hours has had little interest in food.  He has
eaten small amounts, but much less than his usual chow hound behavior.
If it weren't for the significant decrease in appetite I wouldn't even
begin to think that anything could be wrong.  He's alert, playful,
active, and so far pooping the same amount.  It's the first time he's
ever been disinterested in food though.

Is this natural?  Like just a mood?

Thanks!  Michelle

                      ============

       Yeah. IT'S CALLED STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE
           aka The Pussy Wizard's Syndrome <(@}:* ~ (  >

                      ===========

From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com
Date: 3 Apr 2005 18:32:04 -0700

Subject: Vomiting cat

My cat, Charley, is 6 months old, energetic, and by all accounts
healthy. However, lately he's begun vomiting in the morning after he
first eats his kitten chow.  I think what is happening is that he
snarfs it down, drinks some water, then the kitten chow expands in his
stomach, and up it comes.  Although it is rare, he's done it other
times in of the day.  All occurrences seem to happen when he's not
eaten in awhile (although I leave kitten chow available to him 24/7).
Charley does not seem sick in the least.  Just wondered if anyone else
had experience with this? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Michelle

From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 30 Oct 2005 11:12:05 -0800

Subject: Re: How do I "set back" Amber?

I've recently learned that my cat, Charley, is psychic.  You see, I
just wasn't giving him the message the right way.  He was fond of
meowing, not only in the morning, but whenever it suited his fancy,
which could be anywhere from 1-3AM.  He thought that would be a great
time for me to get up and play.

I decided he needed some negative reinforcement, so when he meowed
in the middle of the night, I nailed him with my feather pillow.

I did it two nights in a row and wondered how long I'd have to
give the lesson.  ON the 3rd night, as I lay down, I kept up the
mantra in my head. "Keep your mouth shut or I'm going to get you
with the pillow"

Charley hasn't meowed in the middle of the night since.

So now I don't have to throw the pillow, I just have to think about it.

Michelle  (Yes, I can hear the Twilight Zone music  ;-)

                  ====================

     YOU BEEN TAKIN YOUR ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS???

     YOU BEEN TAKIN YOUR ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS ON TIME???

YOU BEEN TAKIN YOUR ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS ON TIME WITH A LITTLE
FOOD???

    YOU GOTTA FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OR THEY WON'T WORK!!!

                 ====================

From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 30 Apr 2005 11:36:40 -0700

Subject: Re: Cats' growing "intelligence" as they age.

LOL!  Oh yes, and then there are the times Charley decides to be onery,

doing things he knows he's not supposed to do, but when I go and get
the squirt bottle to give him a reminder lesson, I come back to find
him acting totally civilized and innocent--before he's seen what I
brought with me.  Hmmmm.

From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 9 Oct 2005 12:01:47 -0700

Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

At least I know that I'm not alone concerning Charley's fetish about
closed doors.  :-)  I suspect that our lack of a clear cut schedule
exacerbates the issue, as IBen pointed out.  And lots of times, he is
segregated in a room with all of his needs met, except for his desire
to be out and about.  However, I may try the catnip.  And we are trying

very hard to ignore him when he throws a fit--but gee, he can be
persistent.

From: "IBen Getiner" <Lappc...@aol.com>
Date: 9 Oct 2005 02:03:30 -0700
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

Put Charles in his own room. Deck it out with everything he might need.

Put the fan on when it's hot.. Lot's of food and water. Make sure the
window's open for his pleasure. But SEGREGATE his noise busy little azz

from YOU. He'z a simple animal, and you're trying to rest, for Christ's

sake!   IBen

From: Joe Canuck <Joe.Can...@-remove-gmail.com> -
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:24:13 -0400

Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

Yes, I have one almost the same except for throwing the hissy fit. And
it is not just doors that humans are behind... it is ANY closed door.

The condition is incurable.  :)

From: "Gail" <g...@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 22:13:05 GMT
Local: Fri, Oct 7 2005 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

I have two cats like this, also. They are indignant when
someone closes them out of a room. They are both spoiled
rotten!!

Gail

From: "Space" <s...@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:16:44 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

same here - i think with my cats it is a case of "the grass is always
greener", or a duvet is softer behind the closed door

From: jmc <NOnewsgroupsS...@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus>
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:19:40 +0100
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

Suddenly, without warning, Joe Canuck exclaimed (07-Oct-05 11:24 PM):

> Yes, I have one almost the same except for throwing the hissy fit. And
> it is not just doors that humans are behind... it is ANY closed door.

> The condition is incurable.  :)

Yea, mine's like that too.  If you let her in to the room with the
closed door, and close the door behind her, usually she'll be
immediately wanting out :)

From: 5cats <5...@fake-email.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:40:05 -0500
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

I have a spoiled brat named Charlie too. He's usually willing to lay
quietly on my stomach or on my feet if I nap during the day.

Maybe you could distract your Charley with food or catnip right before
you go to sleep? It might keep him occupied for a few minutes at least.

If you react in any way to the hissy fit, it's reinforcing the
behavior.

 I'd lock him in a room with food, water, litter, far enough away that

the napper can nap, then completely ignore him till he quiets down.  If

when let out, he goes immediately to the door to harrass the napper, he

goes right back into isolation.  Do this consistently every time, he
should learn.  Sometimes he'll need reinforcement.

                   ============

  You APPRECIATED the ABUSE but YOU DIDN'T LIKE THIS ADVICE:

                  =============

From: "Barb" <bguzz...@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:34:24 -0500
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors

Doors should not be closed in the home of a cat.
Charley wants to come in and he may talk for a
while when you want to take a nap but his real
plan is to lie beside you or on you and take a
nap, too.

--
Barb

                 -------------------

      HOWE COMEYOU DON'T WANT TO BE NICE to your kat?

                 -------------------

From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 Apr 2005 11:17:47 -0700

Subject: Re: Bad news

Imo, it sucks to hunt anything for mere sport--and this is taking that
proposition over the top.

But even if lawmakers don't share my outrage at the concept, can't they

see, it's just going to cause major conflicts between people.  How long

before someone shoots someone pet?  And if the petowner has no legal
recourse, how long before he assaults the person who did it?  (Probably

fatally.)  Or suppose you get some stupid teenager with gun who decides

to go cat hunting in his neighborhood and ends up shooting another kid?

My point is that even if they don't give a damn about the cats, they
can't possibly be so stupid as to be unable to imagine these unintended

consequences.

Michelle

                 ---------------------------

                      POT. KETTLE. BLACK.

                ----------------------------

                    ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._
                    `6_ 6  )   `-.  (     ).`-.__.`)
                    (_Y_.)'  ._   )  `._ `. ``-..-'
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  _.--''    _.-_..'  .;.'
 (,_..----''' (,..--''

  Meow

 /\_/\
(='.'=)
(")_(")

/),,/)
( ' ; ')  kiss me
(,,)-(,,)

/),,/)
('  ; ')  kiss me here
(,,)-(,,)

 /),,/)
(  ; ' )  kiss me here
(,,)-(,,)

 /),,/)
(   ; )  kiss me here
(,,)-(,,)

   /)
(  *  ) and KISS ME HERE!
(,,)-(,,)

                 The Amazing Pussy Wizard <(@}; ~ } >

                  <{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>
      <{#}: ~ } >                         < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } > http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u  < { ~ :{@}>
      <{#}: ~ } >                         < { ~ :{@}>
             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>
                  <{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>

         Please DON'T BE The Amazing Pussy Wizard's PREY.

                      IT AIN'T PRETTY.

                        <(@}; ~ } >
abRokeNegRo - 18 Jan 2006 13:39 GMT
> HOWEDY Charley's human,
>
[quoted text clipped - 587 lines]
>
>                          <(@}; ~ } >

Now, this one, I read the whole thing

wow dude, im tellin ya...
you should get an isbn, fught what anybody has told you
the world is full of a-holes, that have nothing better to do
than try to keep someone talented like yourself from
leaving them far behind with your success!

I personally hope you put this in a booklet

if the book looks to small? write bigger
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory@HushMail.Com - 18 Jan 2006 18:08 GMT
HOWEDY abRokeNegRo,

> Now, this one, I read the whole thing

INDEED? You only read it WON TIME?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has written the MOST COMPREHENSIVE
COMPELLING treatises on behavior since descarte and has DISCREDITED
nearly every highly respected recognized behaviorist in history <{) ; ~
)   >

The Amazing Puppy Wizard recommends readin HIS Posts two or
three times JUST FOR PURE POSITIVE PLEASURE <{) ; ~ )  >

> wow dude, im tellin ya...

Naaaaah. NoWON TELLS The Amazing Puppy Wizard NUTHIN.

Bein the kats a.s MEANS HE does the TELLIN and folks DO the listenin.

THAT'S JUST HOWE IT IS, abRokeNegRo <{) ; ~ )  >

> you should get an isbn,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard go NO FREAKIN IDEA what the heel's a
isbn therefore HE don't know HOWE or WHERE to GET WON or what
the HEEL to do with IT when an IF HE GETS IT <{) : * ~  (  >

> fught what anybody has told you

Most folks tell The Amazing Puppy Wizard HE'S a TROLL.

LIKE THIS:

Subject: Re: Aggressive Rescue

Who is this total freak?  Must be a troll.-- John Huthmaker

                             ------

an to GO TO HEEL an WORSE:

From: Bos...@webtv.net
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:09:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Walking on a leash...

PLONK a.shole TAKE A PILL AND SHUT UP. I BET YOU WAY
EVERY BIT OF 300 pds.. SITTING ON YOUR LAZY a.s. Go
have sex with a dog now that is a mental case jerk
off.

                              --------------

LIke THAT from a PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINER goin
to college to study ANIMAL BEHAVIOR just for ASKIN her
HOWE to install a conditional reflex <{) ; ~  ) >

And THEY REFUSE TO TALK BUSINESS sayin  that they've KILLFILED
HIM on accHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED
EXXXPOSED them as FRAUDS and COWARDS and LIARS and
DISCREDITED and EMBARRASSED THEM TO DEATH and IF NOT,
then they WISH TO HEEL THEY WAS DEAD bye the time The Amazing
Puppy Wizard was done JERRYIZING (i.e. SCHTUPPIN) them <{) : ~ )  >

THAT'S The Amazing Puppy Wizard's M.O. (modus operandi) <{) ; ~ )  >

Oh, and NAAAH, The Amazing Puppy Wizard don't talk Latin, HE
learned THAT from watchin Car 54 Where Are You on T.V. "Oooh!
Oooh!" Gunther an Toodie... REMEMBER NHOWE? <{) ; ~  )  >

> the world is full of a-holes,

Ahhhh! The Amazing Puppy Wizard's SPECIALTY!

HE been given them a pretty good SCHTUPPIN RIGHT
HERE for six years NHOWE, eh abRokeNegRo???

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

>  that have nothing better to do than try to keep
>  someone talented like yourself

NHOWE findin someWON so talented would  be as hard
for YOU to find as that isbn would be for The Amazing
Puppy Wizard to RHOWEND up <{) ; ~  )  >

> from leaving them far behind

WHAAAAT "leavin them far behind", abRokeNegRo?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard AIN'T fixin to leave NO WON
behind. HE'S fixin to BURY THEM an leave a wooden stake
in their hearts and silver bullet in their skulls an cuttin their
heads off an HIDIN IT from 'em <{) : ~ {  >

The Amazing Puppy Wizard AIN'T playin GRABASS like that
Jesus Christ guy, leavin the JOB HALF DONE <{) : ~ (  >

These bastards AIN'T pullin their sorry crap NO doGdameneD MORE.

IT'S FREAKIN OVER when The Amazing Puppy Wizard DROPS
the doGdameneD hammer on the ENTIRE INDUSTRY. HE'S
kickin a.s an takin names an WHACKIN 'em ALL HOWET IN
WON FELL SWOOP <{) ; ~  )  >

> I personally hope you put this in a booklet

Here it IS:

                  <{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>
      <{#}: ~ } >                         < { ~ :{@}>
   <{#}: ~ } > http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u  < { ~ :{@}>
      <{#}: ~ } >                         < { ~ :{@}>
             <{#}: ~ } >           < { ~ :{@}>
                  <{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>

It works on ALL critters. And if it DON'T, then The Amazing
Puppy Wizard will release a THOWESAND Elves to fly up
their stinkin butts till they CHOKE ON IT or SH*T THE
doGdamened bed from TOXEMIA from swallowin it <{) : ~ {  >

AND THEN HE'LL bury 'm DEEP with a wooden stake in their ice cold
miniscule hearts an drill their skull with a silver bullet an bury 'm
DEEP
an cut their stinkin thinkin heads off an an HIDE IT from 'm so they
DON'T
EVER COME BACK an try an F with The Amazing Puppy Wizard or HIS
People and THEIR People after them <{) ; ~ )  >

Freakin Moses HAD HIS CHANCE too an BLEW IT TOO, BIG TIME.

> if the book looks to small?

It IS smal, abRokeNegRo. It's just abHOWET 100 pages.

There AIN'T NUTHIN you can't do behaviorally with ANY critter usin
just a little UNDERSTANDIN of RESPECT, COMMON DECENCY,
VALUES, MORALS, ETHICS, PRINCIPLES, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE,
TRUST and some simple non physical scientific and psychological
conditioning techniques <{) ; ~ )  >

Oh, an WON LAST COMPONENT - DEMONSTRATED SELF DISCIPLINE.

You gotta WANNA EVOLVE your consciHOWESNESS <{) : ~ )  >

OtherWIZE, The Amazing Puppy Wizard GOTTA give you that
good SCHTUPPIN and the WHOWEL NINE YARDS <{) ; ~ )  >

The Amazing Puppy Wizard is willin to KILL FOR PEACE <{) ; ~  ) >

And FAILIN THAT, HE'S willin to DIE TRYIN <{) : ~  (  >

>  write bigger

C'mon Nigga, THAT'D be WORK!

You get what you got for FREE. BE HAPPY! Don't press your
luck or The Amazing Puppy Wizard might put YOU on the list...

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Oooh! Oooh! Hey??? Lookey here!:

Subject: Re: WHO IS THE TERRORIST, NOW?

HOWEDY serwad,

serwad wrote:
> I happened to catch the CBS news report on this last night,
> and they trotted out a "counterterrorism expert"

TERRORISM is The Amazing Puppy Wizard's SPECIALTY <{) : ~ )  >
HE was trained at the U.S. Army Center For Special / Psychological
Warfare back in the 60's <{) : ~ )  >

It's a DEADLY game to play. Let's PREY for US <{) : ~ {  >

> to explain that this was actually a great victory for the United States.

INDEED? Seems the Pentagon (hmmm 5 pointed star) got a more
P-HOWERFUL Wizard than The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) : * ~ (  >

PROBLEMO.

There AIN'T NO ROOM at the top for two P-HOWERFUL Wizards <{) ; ~ ) >

That means someWON gotta get the heel HOWETA Dodge <{) : ~ {  >

> It "sends a message"

Yeah. It SEZ someWON CAN'T SHOOT STRAIGHT. OR it SEZ
someWON can take the temporary beatin to accomplish their
missiHOWEN just like HOWE the Pentagon (hmmm) sends
troops on SUICIDE missHOWENS <{) : ~ {  >

> and if Zawahiri  "has to constantly look over his shoulder for
> attacks by hellfire missiles,

NO PROBLEMO.  The Amazing Puppy Wizard has been puttin
up with THAT kinda crap for six years NHOWE here abHOWETS,
waging HIS HOWELY War Of Attrition <{) ; ~ )  >

IT'S A DEADLY GAME TO PLAY, seward. In WAR,
everyWON SUFFERS. HOWEver, that's the PRICE
of ADMISSION  <{) : ~ (  >

> he won't have time to plot terrorist attacks."

That's BULLSHIT. Lookey here! The Amazing Puppy
Wizard is UNPHAZED by such anti terrorist tactics.

> Sadly, I expect that this is  how much of the U.S. electorate
> will view this incident.

INDEEDY.  THAT'S what The Amazing Puppy Wizard has
been FIGHTING RIGHT HERE for six years. NO PROBLEMO.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard got a SECRET PLAN, serwad.

Let's PREY the Pentagon (hmmm) knows their sh.t <{) : ~ } >

> The deaths of Pakistani civilians are politically inconsequential here,

NO PROBLEMO. LikeWIZE here abHOWETS. They're simply
COLLATERAL DAMAGES. LikeWIZE The Amazing Puppy Wizard
has lost a few constituents to collateral damages. It's the PRICE
of ADMISSION to the war we're fightin TO THE DEATH."

If you can't stand the heat..."  <{) ; ~ ) >

> while appearing "tough" and "resolute" is much more important
> than having a clue

INDEEDY. HOWEver, THAT'S PRECISELY what The Amazing
Puppy Wizard has been C-HOWENTING on RIGHT HERE to
use as EVIDENCE in HIS HOWELY War against tyranny, violence
oppression and mental illness <{) ; ~ )  >

> about the sources of resentment against the U.S.,

The U.S. is feared and hated as much as The Amazing Puppy
Wizard, albeit JUSTIFIABLY in many instances. NO PROBLEMO.

THAT TOO, is part of HIS SECRET PLAN, serwad <{) : ~ )  >

The Amazing Puppy Wizard WANTS the miserable lying dog
abusing punk thug coward active acute chronic long term
incurable MENTAL CASES to FEAR and HATE HIM and tell
LIES and DISGRACE THEMSELVES and PROVE The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's Divinely Inspired Message. PERHAPS the
Pentagon's (hmmm) Wizard GOT THE SAME SECRET PLAN?

THAT would be DIFFICULT at beast, to imagine. The Amazing
Puppy Wizard must give this possibility some due dilligence.
Of curse, if it works on DOGS it'll likeWIZE work on the WHOWEL
WILD WORLD, to boot.

This indeed IS a trecherHOWES game, sewad <{) : ~ {  >

You got any ADVICE?

> and the foreign policy and law enforcement strategies

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHHAHAAAA!!!

>  that might actually reduce the risk of terrorist attacks.

Perhaps we should BOMB them with Spanish Fly and attack
with nekkid wimmen? Ooops! Almost FORGOT the NATURE
of the beast. We'll need PLENTY of fair nubile young boys...

NO. Shootin an missin AIN'T gonna REDUCE terrorist attacks
it'll INCREASE them JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy
Wizard has done RIGHT HERE on The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Forums <{) : ~ } >

Of curse, IT AIN'T GONNA WORK unless these Wizard's know
HOWE to pull it off, seward. Let's PREY for the Wizard of the
Pentagon <{) ; ~ )  >

Oh, bye the bye, The Amazing Puppy Wizard almost forgot
to introduce HISSELF. I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing Puppy
Wizard.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's missHOWEN is to IDENTIFY
EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT the professional dog trainers
and university trained behaviorists through CASE HISTORY
DATA pryor to droppin the doGdameneD hammer on the
entire industry and promoting HIS METHODS of PEACE
all over the WHOWEL WILD WORLD and after THAT,
takin HIS rightful place in The White HOWES in abHOWET
twenty years from NHOWE.

HOWEver in the meantime, LOTS of someWONS GOTTA
DIE, on accHOWENT of there's ONLY WON WINNER in
THIS HOWELY WAR <{) : ~ }  >

Wish us all the BEAST an PREY for PEACE <{) ; ~ )  >

From: TheAmazingPussyWizard
Date: 17 Jan 2006 04:02:16 -0800
Subject: Re: "We're Here For The Dogs."

HOWEDY racetrack silly you miserable lying dog abusing
punk thug coward active acute chronic long term incurable
mental case,

sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:09:24 GMT, John Wesley
> <JohnWesley1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >In article <1137391048.920344.326...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> >b...@yahoo.com says...
> >> Yeah. We was just talkin abHOWET shock and pronged
> >> spiked pinch choke collars and aversive sprays.

> > I wish somebody would put a spiked pinch collar
> > on you and a muzzle on your MOUTH.

HOWE abHOWET sumpthin like this, instead?:

> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.
> Janet Boss

> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher
> > > than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > > dog like a Lab.
>
> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

                   ====================

> > PLONK

> And this is a valuable contribution to the newsgroup?

You mean LIKE THIS?:

From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@ncweb.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0500
Subject: Re: PuppyWizard Thanks..for the Help!

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:38:11 -0500,
"BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Thanks Jerry for the help.. I really appreciate it!
> I am posting this so others will see as well!

>Hi Jerry,
>> Oh joy, sure wish I had a bigger house ....<sigh>..
>> but I don't. I live in a one bedroom apartment, so
>> Beau and I spend most of the time in the living room.
>> That's where the TV and computer are This is where
>> he does the most of his growling and barking.

> O.K., doesn't matter WHERE you go when
> you got to get up and GO to make him follow.

<Skip reposting of Jerry drivel.>

I believe you've been told that Jerry is killfiled by the majority of
regulars here.  If you think his advice is valuable and enjoy dealing
with him, good for you.  However, reposting Jerry spew that people use
a killfile to avoid tends to suggest that you're trying to annoy us,
and even if you're not, it's going to get you killfiled.  Let me be
one of the first: PLONK.

Mustang Sally

                      ------------------

And you had to REPOST the whole doGdameneD thing?

What a miserable inconsiderate thing to do!

You are SUCH an ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person
incapable of reason, and therefore a waste of time, not
worth further notice.

LIKE THIS:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001
Subject: Re: shock collars

Sally Hennessey <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message
news:b8m1dtsv6vuiblo63h8ekqiforibadrff2@4ax.com...

Aside from being incredibly offensive and self-
righteous, this post shows and absence of knowledge
in the differences in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps
a lack of ability to perceive same.

The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog to
whom corrections and discomfort, even pain, were
unimportant does not mean that such dogs do not exist.

What it means is that you don't know as much about
dogs as you think you do, and you surely don't know
a damn thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.

I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with
one of her housemates; that dog had no fear or
anything, and pain incurred during a fight meant
nothing to her.

I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories.  The fact that
you, Alison, continue to say things to people such as
what you said to Theresa about causing her dog to
suffer (at least I guess that's what you meant by
"you cause your dog suffers" - - must be the King's
English you guys talk about over there) means that
you are an ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person
who is not worth further notice.

        Sally Hennessey

Nope.  No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

I'm starting to see some similarities here.

Sally Hennessey

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!­­!

SEE?

LIKE THIS:

From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@ncweb.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:27:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Dog defecates during walks

Clearly, my stating the facts is not enough for Lucy;
perhaps she needs some sort of tangible proof, or perhaps
she thinks Jerry knows what I do better than I do.

In either case, she's proven herself incapable of reason,
and therefore a waste of time.

Mustang Sally

HOWEDY racetrack silly, you dog murderin mental case,

sighthounds & siberians wrote:

> > First, I have tried to be extremely consistent, ensuring that
> > she defecates at the start of each walk.  However, this seems to make
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > open-palmed slaps.  This continues unabated.  Any ideas beyond simply
> > not walking this dog?

> Does she do this in your own yard,

The dog's behavior would be different in his own yard.

> or wherever you take her for routine potty breaks?

You can tell alot abHOWET a dog by his toilet habits
JUST LIKE HOWE you can tell alot abHOWET a dog by his
tail. S-HOWENDS like this dog is MARKING with her POOP.

> If not, and if she's seen the vet recently

While it COULD be a veterinary problem it PROBABLY AIN'T.

> and been cleared of possible intestinal parasites,

What parasites would cause this behavior,
racetrack silly? Don't seem to be a SYMPTOM
of parasites.

> it could be a marking behavior.

Could be.

But is's PROBABLY a SYMPTOM of anXXXIHOWESNESS.

You can figger THAT HOWET by EXXXAMINING HOWE
the dog is being handled and trained...

> We had a particularly dominant bitch

There AIN'T NO SUCH THING as a "dominant" anything.
That type of behavior is LEARNED, COPIED from their
ABUSERS.

> that would mark with poop on walks,

NO PROBLEM. ANY behavior that's CONSISTENT
REPEATABLE or PREDICTABLE is EZ to EXXXTINGUISH
NEARLY INSTANTLY using effective non physical
scientific and psychological conditioning techniques
as taught in YOUR FREE COPY of The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) >

> to the point that she was empty and her butt was orange.

S-HOWENDS like ANXXXIHOWESNESS, not "MARKING."

> Slapping and "lashing" her are likely
> to be ineffective at best.

You think so, racetrack silly?

> Try ignoring what she's doing

THAT AIN'T gonna TRAIN the dog not to
do that noMOORE, racetrack silly <{); ~ ) >

> and continuing to walk when she
> starts to slow down or squat.

She won't move, racetrack silly.
He'd have to DRAG and CHOKE her.

> Mustang Sally

You're a IDIOT:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

Nope.  No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

I'm starting to see some similarities here.

Sally Hennessey

"My spayed Siberian bitch marks and covers all
over the place, as did my spayed Dalmatian bitch.
The Borzoi doesn't, but she is *extremely* submissive."

Sally Hennessey

"Oops, hit "send" too fast.  Of course bitches in
season are advertising, so that type of behavior
might be typical of Murphy.  And some folks think
that spaying actually increases dominant/aggressive
behavior in bitches that were dominant/aggressive
beforehand, so perhaps marking behavior also
increases in those bitches."

Sally Hennessey

                ------

LIKE THAT!

SEE???

From: IHateToSayItButITOLDYO...@Inbox.Com
Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:02:59 -0800

Subject: who's Plonking The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) : * ~ ( >

From: IHateToSayItButITOLDYO...@Inbox.Com
Subject: Re: "We're Here For The Dogs."

HOWEDY who,

From: who <whoca...@yahoo.ca>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:25:02 -0500

Subject: Re: "We're Here For The Dogs."

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:09:24 GMT, John Wesley

<JohnWesley1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <1137391048.920344.326...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>b...@yahoo.com says...

>>> Yeah. We was just talkin abHOWET shock and pronged
>>> spiked pinch choke collars and aversive sprays.

> > I wish somebody would put a spiked pinch collar on you
> > and a muzzle on your MOUTH.

> I wish you would quit feeding the troll.

WHO'S the TROLL, who???:

From: "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:38:11 -0500
Subject: PuppyWizard Thanks..for the Help!

Thanks Jerry for the help.. I really appreciate it!
I am posting this so others will see as well!

Hi Jerry,

> Oh joy, sure wish I had a bigger house ....<sigh>..
> but I don't. I live in a one bedroom apartment, so
> Beau and I spend most of the time in the living room.
> That's where the TV and computer are This is where
> he does the most of his growling and barking.

O.K., doesn't matter WHERE you go when
you got to get up and GO to make him follow.

> I have praised him...hummed a little de de de te de ta ra...
> I have gone to another room. I have tried to change his
> mind set with one of his toys.

O.K., but don't GIVE him the toy, ONLY use
it as a BRIEF NON PHYSICAL distraction.

> This is not a house, so not very big, so  when
> we go to the kitchen or bathroom ..there is
> enough room for Beau to sit or down.  Bedroom
> isn't large either..when we head for there he
> thinks it's either time for bed or I am going to
> change.( such a man! lol)

We only got to go to another door or room
to break the growling for a moment and return.

> When we go back to the living room we start
> what seems to have become routine all over
> again.

FOLLOW THE TECHNIQUE.

You must always ALTERNATE the sound from
that LAST INSTANCE you used it.

>  He barks, I praise, hum and try another room
> or play with a toy. I guess what I am saying is
> he only stops for a very short time.

O.K., that seems to be the cause of the problem.
You're not following the technique precisely.

> If I am watching a program on TV or on the
> computer doing something by the 12th time
>and interruption I am the one getting frustrated!

Right. He's probably not stopping cause you're
failing to continue from the LAST instance of
distraction, OR that you're trying to physically
break the behavior.

>  I just want an hour or so without interruption.

NO PROBLEM.

> Sometimes he gets up on my lazy boy chair
> stares at me and growls ( his apartment bark)

He's sayin HOWEDY! PRAISE HIM.

>  now he wants something.

No no, no.

No.

> What do you want?

Oooops!

>  I ask...  play toy? cookie? outside pp?..
> Yep that's the one he wants to go out,
> I know he doesn't have to pee as we
> were just out 30 min ago.

Then TELL HIM so

> He just wants to go out look around make
> sure all is secure.or make like a reindeer
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 4 drops just to please me or prove he really
>had to go. ( a perfect con job)<smiling>

Right.

> I am beginning to think ..a) he has total control of me..

MUST be a blond thing!

>   b) perhaps we have to go work more.

Naaah. I think you're just not followin the method precisely.

> This little guy is really very amusing and clever,

Yeah. That's HOWE COME we gotta alternate
the direction the distraction comes from EVERY
TIME, and the chain of events NEVER BREAKS.
Always remember the LAST INSTANCE of sound
distraction and use another direction NEXT time.

There's other suggestions I'll have for you if you
don't think THAT'S the problem.

>  when he comes and growls at me and I ask questions ..

Good.

> he listens very carefully and cocks his head as
> if to say " what was that?  did I hear you right?"
> then he runs to what he wants if I don't get it right.

Yeah... he's talkin.

> When relaxed he gathers as many of his toys as
> possible and brings them all up on my chair,stretches
> out across my legs or climbs over the keyboard on
> my lap for a hug, and will then settle down for a snooze.

Yeah, it's DEFINATELY a blond thing.

>When I am at home he would like me attached
>to his hip or he attached to my lap.

FINE.

> Not enough he sleeps with me ..lol and has
> to cuddle into my back.

Fine.

>  Am I expecting too much?

I think I'd draw the line at cudling.

>  or too soon?

Your pup should be nearly perfect nearly instantly.

> Is there a point where too much praise
> turns to no longer having control or a dog
> taking advantage?

NOPE. Perhaps if you praise him in advance
he won't ask you to do stuff like take him out
for a look see?

> Or am I just allowing too much trying to do the right thing?

I think you're makin a very tiny mishandling error,
probably by not alternating the direction EVERY
TIME.

> I am afraid at times my frustration may undo
> some of the good changes already accomplished.

That WILL happen if you scold him.

> Did I mention we work every two or three days
> pending on the weather and walk or play in between.

That's FINE.

> Gees ...I'm smiling now, I think he knows I'm writing you ...

They KNOW stuff.

> he has been snoozing across my legs since I
> started this note, you guessed it... not a growl,
> bark  or sneeze.  yep and he is still breathing.

Sounds like he's a little hyperactive.
That'll settle down in a few more days.

> This is like taking a noisy car to the mechanic,
> when you get there the car quietly purr's.

Just let me know what he's doin and what
you're doin and we can see what's goin on
and fix it nearly instantly.

> Well thanks for any help.

My pleasure

TPW <{) ; ~  )  >

Cheers,

Barb   (BarbnBeau)

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:56:40 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks for the note...and reminder's
To: "Barb E" <>

HOWEDY BarbnBeau,

Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )  >

Barb E <> wrote:

Hi Jerry,

Thanks for your notes....

Pretty scary isn't it a blonde dog and a blonde owner, no
wonder the littleguy is confused !

Not sure what I thought I was doing re: barking and growling...
sometimes I take things so literally.

I thought you had mentioned humming as a deterrent?
However I concentrated on repeating my little tune completely,
not thinking about changing the direction of sound.

OMG I have enough trouble carrying a tune never mind throwing my voice
....hahaha    (way too funny)

So, we are going back to real noise and ALTERNATE the sound
from that LAST INSTANCE.  ( light bulb moment) I am NOT following
the technique precisely!! duh.

I agree I think he is a tad hyperactive.. but I can usually get him to
calm down and breathe by "down" and "stay" with lots of praise for
a period of 3 to 5 mins. then release and back to playing. (a puppy
time out  lol)

re: cuddling.. Beau sleeps with me and I usually sleep on my side.
Once I move to my side he shuffles in closer his back slightly touching
mine... I think it's his way of keeping track of me, making darn sure
I don't go anywhere without him!

You will be happy to hear after receiving your note, and reminder's.
Sir started his barking  so I went back to alternating sound and lo and
behold he reacted very qui ckly and stopped. ( your right.. way too
blonde)

We also went down for our last pee break before bed and wouldn't you
know we timed it when the newspaper man arrived, Beau gave one quick
bark and he immediately stopped.

Lucky me my dog is smarter than I am, the improvement is there in spite
of my errors!  Now that you got me back on track perhaps we will see
more improvement.

Thanks once again for your help, will let you know how
things go.Stay warm.. (for us that means 32 degrees today)

Cheers,

Barb

From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@ncweb.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0500

Subject: Re: PuppyWizard Thanks..for the Help!

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:38:11 -0500, "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca>
wrote:

> Thanks Jerry for the help.. I really appreciate it!
> I am posting this so others will see as well!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> That's where the TV and computer are This is where
>> he does the most of his growling and barking.

> O.K., doesn't matter WHERE you go when
> you got to get up and GO to make him follow.

<Skip reposting of Jerry drivel.>

I believe you've been told that Jerry is killfiled by the majority of
regulars here.  If you think his advice is valuable and enjoy dealing
with him, good for you.  However, reposting Jerry spew that people use
a killfile to avoid tends to suggest that you're trying to annoy us,
and even if you're not, it's going to get you killfiled.  Let me be
one of the first: PLONK.

Mustang Sally

HOWEDY racetrack silly,

sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> > I'm very sorry for what you're going through with Tasha

> Your idol's not.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard LIVES to WATCH YOUR DEAD DOGS DIE
from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE and PSYCHOGENIC
SEIZURES aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME, racetrack silly,
you dog abusing mental case <{); ~ ) >

From: Sally Hennessey <greyho...@ncweb.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:10:40 -0400

Subject: Re: Aggressive dogs at class and off-lead
sessions in puppy classes
On 8 Jun 2001 02:39:01 GMT, australian.sheph...

@cadvision.com (Rocky) wrote:
>Sally Hennessey <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in
>news:ld90it4e9djtc7li6ca85ggm5vhau7ashe@4ax.com:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Geeze, Sally - that's too bad.  How long does
> it take for Blue to recover fully?

Probably a couple of hours.  He is what GH folks call a spook
(combination of genetics and the way GH pups are raised), and
unfortunately the worst part of his seizures is that he is so
afraid of them.

He tries to run away, which only gets him to a worse place
in the house to have them, and as soon as he starts to come
out of them he tries to get up and run.

Judging from his reactions, he is at least partially blind
when he first comes out of the seizures.  It's very different
from our first epileptic GH, who (I know this will sound
ridiculous) didn't seem to be upset by his seizures.

Last night, he was "back" within 20 minutes or so, but still
wobbly and kind or wired - - you know the routine.  He really
has a strange seizure pattern, or non-pattern, and I know his
vet doesn't think the seizures are going to stay this far apart.

But hey, he's just a vet!

Sally Hennessey

>  That should tell you something.

Naaah. But THIS WILL, INDEEDY:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

CANCERS and SEIZURES (which MOST of your own FEARFUL
DEATHLY ILL DOGS GOT) are STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE
DIS-EASES aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME <{); ~ ) >

THAT'S HOWE COME YOUR DOG HAD HER SEIZURE ON YOUR KITCHEN
TABLE. SHE WAS AFRAID YOU'D CATCH AND PUNISH HER <{); ~ ) >

                Death Producing Ulcers:
       "Emotional Influences On Health & Behavior"
                Dr. George Von Hilsheimer

       Emotional Influences On Behavior

       Illness is directly related to depression and lack of
       adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens,
       McConville & Kaplan, 1966).

       A WIDE RANGE of PSYCHOSOMATIC or
       CORTICOVISCERAL DIS-EASES was surveyed
       by Wittkower (1965) to demonstrate the enormous
       importance of emotional factors in general health.

       Interview findings of emotional material (recently
       experienced hopelessness) pryor to biological
       examinations correctly identified 11 out of 19 with
       cervical cancer, and 25 of 32 who were cancer free
       even though psychological tests failed to discriminate
       these groups (Schmale & Iker, 1966)

       150 lung cancer patients showed significantly
       constricted expression of emotions. The had fewer
       childhood behavior problems, and lower neuroticism
       score than their cancer free controls. Heavy cigarette
       smokers who DO NOT INHALE are more apt to have LUNG
       CANCER. They, too, show LOWER neuroticism scores.
       Among heavy cigarette smokers poor emotional
       expression is as highly related to cancer as urban
       residence and is more important than a chronic cough
       or an air polluted environment (Kissen, 1966).

       A ten year observation of all the women who developed
       cancer in an isolated pupulation of 2,550 showed that
       they tended to be unstable or sub stable personalities
       characterized by melancholy and extraversion,
       especially marked with those of an undecided body
       build (Hagll, 1966). Personality dynamics effect both
       the development of cancer and it's SITE. Cancer
       may result from what appears to be a failure to grow--
       somatically, behaviorally and psychologically
       (Grinker, 1966).

       In 109 cases leukemia and lymphoma were associated
       with a number of losses or separations and with
       feelings of sadness, anxiety, anger or hopelessness.
       The PRIMARY FACTOR seems to be the shame and
       hopelessness of running out of psychological resources
       (Green, 1966). Cervical cancer patients are less
       emotionally responsive, more isolative, and less
       frequently diagnosed as having clinical neuroses than
       cancer free patients. There is NO CLEAR DIFFERENCE in
       their FEELINGS and ATTITUDES toward coitus (Rotkin,
       Qunk, & Couchman, 1965).

       Schmidt (1966) surveyed nearly 100 studies of
       behaviorally induced DIS-EASE in animals CONFIRMING
       and EXTENDING the DATA on PEOPLE. Behaviorally
       induced DIS-EASES tend to fall into two groups;

       (1) Hysteriform problems, which INCLUDE HYSTERICAL
       SEIZURES and FORMS of AGGRESSION as well as
       collective panic and epilepsies;

       (2) organic modifications, including functional
       difficulties and lesions affecting gastro intestinal,
       cardio vascular, respiratory, sexual, endocrine, skin,
       urinary, and neuro muscular systems.

       It is INTERESTING, and SLIGHTLY HORRIFYING,
       to note that the ONLY SCIENTIFIC RELEVANCE of
       the standard six hour school day that I have been able
       to detect in research is that Sawrey and Weisz quite
       by accident found that six hours on and six hour off of
       "EXECUTIVE  BEHAVIOR" in monkeys was the ONLY
       TIME STRUCTURE that INDUCED DEATH PRODUCING
       ULCERS.

            All truth passes through three stages.
                     First, it  is ridiculed.
               Second, it is violently opposed.
           Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                    -Arthur Schopenhauer

> > THAT was exactly my point, Sally, when I repeatedly
> > said that the penny can was NOT what the method was
> > about. Even a very, very sound sensitive dog can be
> > distracted, in the ways you mention above.
>
> Not with sound distraction, though.

LET'S NOT FORGET racetrack silly GOT A VERY LONG
POSTED CASE HISTORY OF HURTING INTIMIDATING and
MURDERING DOGS FOR PLEASURE and PROFIT.

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

> I sure as heck didn't use sound distraction at the start.

Of curse not. You jerked and choked shocked and intimidated IT.

> > Oh, I do know that look! In such instances, what suddenly
> > turns them back into the "I-hear-you mode" is when I say
> > "What a GOOD BOY he is! What a GOOD GIRL she is!"
> Uh-huh.  Well, I'm not about to reinforce her
> ignoring me by praising her for it,

OF CURSE NOT. YOU'D PREFER TO HURT INIMIDATE
AND MURDER YOUR DOGS.

LIKE THIS:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

> but I do help her remember I exist.

THAT'S HOWE COME YOUR DOGS ARE DYIN ON YOU.

THAT'S HOWE COME YOU MURDER SOME OF YOUR DOGS:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

> > If praise is to the dog what Jerry says it is
> > (and my experience with my dogs makes me believe
> > that he is right), perhaps praising her when
> > this happens might make her calm down?
> I think not.

OF CURSE NOT!

ON accHOWENT of EVERY THING YOU BELEIVE WOULD
BE PROVEN DEAD WRONG, racetrack silly:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001
Subject: Re: shock collars

Sally Hennessey <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message
news:b8m1dtsv6vuiblo63h8ekqiforibadrff2@4ax.com...

Aside from being incredibly offensive and self-
righteous, this post shows and absence of knowledge
in the differences in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps
a lack of ability to perceive same.

The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog to
whom corrections and discomfort, even pain, were
unimportant does not mean that such dogs do not exist.

What it means is that you don't know as much about
dogs as you think you do, and you surely don't know
a damn thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.

I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with
one of her housemates; that dog had no fear or
anything, and pain incurred during a fight meant
nothing to her.

I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories.  The fact that
you, Alison, continue to say things to people such as
what you said to Theresa about causing her dog to
suffer (at least I guess that's what you meant by
"you cause your dog suffers" - - must be the King's
English you guys talk about over there) means that
you are an ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person
who is not worth further notice.

        Sally Hennessey

Nope.  No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

I'm starting to see some similarities here.

Sally Hennessey

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!­­!

SEE?

> What I do when a shy/spooky dog startles like that is to
> either ignore it or tell the dog in a happy tone of voice
> (not my praise tone) that it's being silly.

DOGS DON'T LIKE TO BE MOCKED, racetrack silly.

> To praise her when she spooks would reinforce the behavior,

THAT'S INSANE, HOWEver many EXXXPERTS YOU PAY TELL YOU SO:

        "A Completely New Model Of Learning"?
        Naaah. Pavlov ToldUs So 100 Years Ago.

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH
Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily
And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At
The Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggies. <{) ; ~ ) >

HOWEDY People!

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of TheScientific
Management Of Doggies.

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:41:01 -0500
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
<drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: "time-out"

Dan, my own firm hatred of punishment has
recently been intensified by meeting The
Puppy Wizard, Jerry Howe, whose work with
dogs is marvelous.

There is a literature on harms caused by time
out, and perhaps you'd like to look at
http://www.dogydoright.com
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

"As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care."

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals,
especially animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

LeeCharlesKelley Wrote:

>From what I've read of Jerry's method it incorporates

a completely new model of learning, which is based (in
simplest terms) on the idea that all behavior is the
result of finding a way to relieve emotional tension.

This is true not just for dogs but all animals.

You don't believe in the validity of this
particular model of learning?  You don't
think it makes sense?

Fine, I guess.

But it makes total sense to me.

And it made sense to Pavlov, too,
though not many people know this.

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement."
IOW, emotions, not outside rewards, are
what reinforces any behavior.

Finn once saw a small mouse come out of a hole
atthe base of a tree. Needless to say his prey
instinct kicked in BIG TIME and he chased it
back into the hole.  This was 7 years before
he died. Up until the very last time he walked
through that section of the park (an hour before
he went) he checked the base of that tree.

He saw that mouse exactly *once*....he never
saw it again. Don't we all have stories like
that?

Especially those of us with dogs whose
prey drives are pretty intense?

And there are lots of examples that may not
even require the prey drive to be active,
just a strong desire to do something: a dog
who wants to escape from the back yard will
learn how to do it once and never forget it,
a dog who wants to jump on the couch or the
bed doesn't need any repetitions to "reinforce"
or re-learn the behavior.

If something is important to a dog, he'll
learn how to do it.  Once he learns it, he
learns it.  The trick to getting him to
"unlearn" it, is to give him a more
emotionally satisfying replacement behavior.

With Oscar and the cat, the more satisfying
behavior was relating to me instead of the cat.
(He's a Lab, with a strong need for social
connections, so that was pretty easy.)

I've been experimenting recently with Jerry
Howe's method of using a sound distraction,
then praising the dog, without any physical
contact, for 15 seconds.

My initial reaction to his technique was that
it was silly to keep praising the dog that long.

I mean, Jerry's a nut, right?

But in every case except one, when I've followed
the exercise exactly, I've seen a definite
physiological change take place in the dog -
- yawning or stretching have been the usual
indicators -- and after only a few repetitions,
the dog often relaxes, curls up, and goes to sleep!

I've tried this on barking, counter-surfing,
separation anxiety, even two dogs who live
together and fight constantly.  I was pretty
amazed when I saw this little Boston give up
her aggression and start to yawn!

It's too early for me to be convinced that it
will work every single time with every single
dog, or that it will even have a lasting effect
on these dogs, but so far I think that it's
effective at reducing emotional tension, which,
as you know, I believe that all behavior comes
from the dog trying to find a way to reduce
emotional tension.  If you give the dog a
replacement behavior that successfully reduces
emotional tension, the first behavior will no
longer be necessary and the dog will stop doing it.

>  and I certainly wouldn't want to do that.

RIGHT! You PREFER TO DO THIS:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

> My experience with shy dogs tells me I'm right.

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.

>  Want to test it?  Go to your vet's office and watch
> what happens when people's dogs whine or bark and their
> owners pet them and soothingly say "it's ok, it's ok".

RIGHT! THAT'S HOWE COME WE USE NON PHYSICAL PRAISE.

LIKE THIS:

 > I haven't quite finished reading the free chapter on
 > your website,

It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive,
total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals
to any level you desire.

 > but it already worked miracles with our three dogs.

Excellent.

 > The barking at the door has diminished so much
 > that, well, frankly, we're stunned.

My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at
any price, including the thirty five levels of medical grade
static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch
choke collars our "experts" here love so much.

 > We were sort of on the same page with you to begin
 > with (no crates, no choke chains).

Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're
misused.

 > A lot of what you say reminds of my dad's techniques
 > (he's an 84 year old dog lover,one of those about whom
 > people say, "dogs really like him." He's
 > never had a badly behaved dog.

Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle
and treat animals kindly.

 > We'd never heard of the noise emphasis,

You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques.

 > but the overall plan makes great sense.

Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post
recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain HOWE the
distraction and praise process works from his POV as an
experience handler using my methods.

 > I did have a question.  The hardest part for us to
 > implement is the verbal praise only.

Why? That should be spontaneous and in association
with every glance towards you and every thought.

 > It's so hard not to pet and stroke the dog (especially
 > our seven month old).

Oh. Patting is O.K., only not in conjunction with a
thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought
process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an
inappropriate idea.

 > Can you give me the rationale behind that?

It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex.
Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him
from interacting with another dog, and we pull back
on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of
control.

As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will
continue his original thoughts about interacting with
the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control,
the handler needs to further force restraint, making
communication with the dog's MIND, impossible.

 > It will help me modify my own behavior.

Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is
fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a
command or thought we want him to process.

 > Anyway, your approach is amazing.

Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as
effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students
confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics
are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left  for me to
do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push
up daisies.

> Melisande

==============================­=====

> The dog's behavior continues and often escalates,
> because it has received positive reinforcement.

You mean LIKE THIS?:

> Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.

Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
I took a rescued three year old beagle that
had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
even recognize or respond to its name to
Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack???
get real) and in just over one hour of working
with the dog, he was coming on command
(not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and
walking with us on a loose lead.

His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
command and pack exercise WORK!

> and in all likelihood he's never even been near a dog.

Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him.

You don't have to like him. You don't have
to agree with his methods, but as far as I
am concerned, I've never seen any other
training approach that was as fast and easy.

<<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>
Ron Flanagan
Orlando, Florida

-----------------------

AND LIKE THIS:

"Zack Pellers" <ZackPell...@GUESSWHERE.cc>
wrote in message
dlin...@towson.edu (Derek) wrote in news:
697700b8.0405202039.5c737...@p­osting.google.com:

Your dog needs to be retrained. Contact Mr. Jerry Howe.
http://www.DoggyDoRight.com

You can start by downloading the free training manual
available on the site above. I used it on my 4 year old
Fila Brasileiro.

When I first brought him home from rescue, he was
similar to the way you decribed your dog. After using
Mr. Howe's training method, the dog was cured within
72 hours.

-Jack

==============

> >> A shake can would probably give her a heart attack.

NOT if you've FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS in your
FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

IT'LL WORK BETTER THAN FREAKIN MAGICK.

LIKE THIS:

From: Eric
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago
regarding submissive peeing.  Just wanted to let you
know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days
using your techniques!

He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!
Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter
of minutes.  Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed
'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside
their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to
be good dogs!

Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather
than beating a.s or pinching, or any of that nonsense.

I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone
who beat MY a.s lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes
out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.

A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship".  He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows
any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it
(pun intended)...  Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

==========================

AND THIS:

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

> > I'd never use a penny can for this dog, Sally.

That's NOT the ISSUE. The PROBLEM with SHY and
S-HOWEND SENSITIVE DOGS is that they're AFRAID
on accHOWENT of they're ABUSED by being IGNORED
and LOCKED IN BOXES and JERKED CHOKED SPRAYED IN
THE FACE WITH AVERSIVES and SHOCKED or JUST TOLD
"NO!" a couple times a day <{); ~ ) >

> > I'd use a different kind of distraction, like what
> > you do, but alternating the direction of the sound -
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Actually, people here, myself included, take
> issues with both the PRAISE and the SHAKE CAN.

You mean LIKE THIS?:

"Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote in message
news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.42357@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.

Tracy,
What worked for me, in just one storm,
was to praise the dog after each clap
of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!
This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.

 The next time it thundered, he did not even
 react at all--you could not tell it was the same
 dog as before.

There was more thunder just the other day,
and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no
cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all,
it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem
to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-
abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.

Wonderfully.

Praise.

It's that simple.

Juanita

AND THIS?:

From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

 Engrossing account, Anthony.  Our best
to Angel and your family.

 A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

 She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

============================

AND THIS?:

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

====================

THEY GET THEM KINDA RESULTS ON accHOWENT OF THIS:

     "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
                           Never Change,
        Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
            Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
                         For All Handler's
                          And All Dogs,
                     NEARLY INSTANTLY,
 As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
       WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
              The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )  >

You can TRAIN ANY DOG in a few minutes if you
don't follow the ADVICE of the lying dog abusing
MENTAL CASES you're askin for ADVICE.

                You GET The Critter You TRAINED

                       A DOG Is A Dog;
                      As A KAT Is A KAT;
                    As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                    As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
               As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

        ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

                  ALL Critters Only Respond In
                PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                  INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
      To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                    Which We Create For Them.

          Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
              We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
                  And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

   "It is by muteness that a dog becomes so utterly beyond value."

                   Like a confessor Priest?

          "With him, words play no torturing tricks..., "
                    --John Galsworthy.

               Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
                   Their behaviors reflect
           HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
           Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~  )  >

> People who use this method must be awfully busy
> running around creating sound distractions from
> different directions.

You mean instead of JERKING CHOKING SCHOKING and MURDERING
your own DEAD DOGS and PAYIN for "trainers" and "behaviorists"
WHO CAN'T GUARANTEE ANY SUCCESS WHATSOEVER? EXXXPERTS WHO
CONSISTENLY MURDER DOGS LIKE YOU DONE? THAT YOU PAID THEM
TO HEELP YOU MURDER, racetrack silly?

> >> My point is that, in spite of what your idol tells you,

That'd be The UNMENTIONABLE WON, eh racetrack silly?

> >> All Dogs Are Not Alike,

THIS AIN'T abHOWET DOGS, racetrack silly. THIS IS
abHOWET YOUR PREFERENCE TO HURT INTIMDIATE and
MURDER DOGS by TRYING diffent methods for DIFFERENT
DOGS. THAT'S INSANE on accHOWENT OF:

     "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
                       Never Change,
       Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
          Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
                      For All Handler's
                        And All Dogs,
                  NEARLY INSTANTLY,
 As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
        WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
            The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )  >

> > and One Training Size Does Not Fit All.

Pssst? You seein ANY TRAINER IN THE WHOWEL WILD WORLD
GETTIN 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for ALL
dogs and ALL handlers ALL OVER the WHOWEL WILD WORLD
withHOWET EVER SEEIN THE DOGS OR THE PEOPLE?

There AIN'T NO OTHER LIKE HIM, racetrack silly.

> > I can't speak for Jerry, but the way *I* understand
> > the method is that all the dogs react to PRAISE in
> > the same way,

AND the SCIENTIFIC CONDITIONING TECHNIQUES. THAT'S HOWE
COME it's A METHOD. A GESTALT. You gotta USE IT ALL
PRECISELY AS DISHED HOWET in the SCIENTIFIC RECIPE:

        From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)

      The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training
for years. I have a huge library that covers
every system of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End
Training Method is by far the most scientific,
the most advanced, the kindest, the quickest
and the most effective training method yet
discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and
tricks; it is a logically consistent system.
Every behavior problem and every obedience
skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please
endeavor to understand the basis of his system
and please follow his directions exactly. His
manual is a masterpiece. It is dense with
theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur
and how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his
methods based upon what you personally like or
dislike. His is not a bag of tricks but a complete
and integrated system for not only training a dog
but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system
creates for you the dog of your dreams, his
response was that it produces for your dog the
owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are
gentle with your dog then he will be gentle
with you, if you praise your dog every time he
looks at you, then you will become the center
of your dogs world, if you use Jerry's sound
distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train
your dog to not misbehave (even in your
absence) (Just 15 seconds this morning to train
my 10 week old puppy to lie quietly and let me
clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound
distraction / praise / alteration / variation)
it takes just minutes to train you dog to
respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week
old puppy running as fast has his wobbly little
legs would carry him in response to my recall
command-and he comes running every time I call
no matter where we are or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains
upon his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold
exercises and his Family Pack Leadership
exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog,
if you scream at him, if you intimidate him, if
you hurt him, if you force him then his natural
response is to oppose you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he
is or not. It is a logical fallacy to judge a
person's ideas based upon their personality. As
far as dogs are concerned, Jerry wears his heart
upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when he
hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding
or hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows  that force is not
effective and that it will certainly  lead to
behavior problems; sometime problems so severe
that people put their dogs down because of those
problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to
control their dog by force. Jerry knows this too.
We have all been at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In
scientific literature it is referred to
allelomimetic behavior. Dogs respond in like kind
to force; they respond in like kind to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your
praise. You will be astonished at how your dog 's
anxiety will dissipate and how their behavior
problems will dissipate along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as
you would the law of gravity and you will have
astounding success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a
sweet little Magwai; if you don't you will surely
get a little gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).

--Larry

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
<drv...@mindspring.com>

To: <pdd-aspy...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM
Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment?

How does diagnosis shape treatment?

Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who
publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry is a
master at behavioral modification of dogs.

His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov's last student,
the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of Ohio (at Oxford,O).

Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for
you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away
from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave him
TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very carefully,
over again.

Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused training
is immoral. I've watched him in one short session calm
impossible dogs, just about to be murdered (oops "put to
sleep") because of their "incorrigibly" violent behavior.

Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine to
hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for hyperactive
dogs); but he never lost sight of the fundamental reality that
a dog is not a human, but does respond, doggily, to dog love.

You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner's "Cumulative
Record" and read the essay by Breland and Breland, "The
Misbehavior of Organisms".

Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the
trainer attends to the evolutionary history, the individual's
developmental history, and the environmental niche of
the animal being trained.

Yep, right there in Skinner's last and summary book.
Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal.

<snip>

Dogs or little boys, you have to know the individual
history, and the nature of he disorder.

Dr. Von

PS if you are interested in dogs, then take a look at
Jerry's work, ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net

> And there it fails already,

That so? Tell that to Dr. Sam Corson, Dra. Mary Cover
Jones and Drs. Breland & Breeland for starters.

> because all dogs do not react to PRAISE the same way.

INDEED? THAT'S IRRELEVENT.

ALL DOGS RESPOND TO EFFECTIVE SCIENTIFIC and
PSYCHOLOGICAL CONDITIONING, dog lovers. YOU
DON'T NEED TO BRIBE CHOKE SHOCK and MURDER
YOUR OWN DEAD and DEATHLY ILL DOGS noMOORE.

You can train them ALL NEARLY INSTANTLY by
DOIN EXXXACTLY OPPOSITE OF HOWE YOU BEEN:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAA!!!

PERHAPS YOU GOT TOO MUCH INVESTED IN HURTIN
INTIMIDATING AND MURDERIN DOGS, racetrack
silly? OR PERHAPS YOU NEED TO MAKE MONEY
OFF OF NEEDLESSLY RESCUING and SHELTERING
and MURDERING THEM FOR MONEY?

Seems like you RESCUE and SHELTER dog lovers
ARE MAKIN MONEY ON accHOWENT of HURTING and
MURDERING DOGS, doesn't it LOOK like that,
racetrack silly?

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.

> Some dogs do not react to PRAISE at all.

Oh? You mean, LIKE THIS?:

"Beth F" <d...@spamthis.alaska.com>
 wrote in message:

  "Whatever motivates the dog, but I daresay most of
  the dogs I have in classes just aren't that interested
  in praise."

   "BethF" <b...@NOT-SO-bad-dawgs-in-ak.c­om>
    wrote in message:
     news:v4r8kkfr257e1a@corp.supernews.com...
     news:v4r8kkfr257e1a@corp.supernews.com...

     Kyle,  FWIW, i thought it was pretty funny,
     and i often call my little dog the turd,
     because he is one.

     Some folks think its HORRRIBLE i would insult
     my dog like that so i guess its just a matter
     of personality.

     Kyle, the best way to teach him to stay away
     is to step on him once. Seriously.

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And  Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few  Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It. "mike duforth, author:
"CourteHOWES Canine."

> That's why some people reward

Very interesting. You CANNOT REWARD a behavior
AFTER THE FACT nodoGgamenedMOORE than you can
"PUNISH a behavior AFTER THE FACT".

You CANNOT REWARD a dog if IT AIN'T THINKIN OF
DOIN what he's being "REWARDED" for on accHOWENT
of DOGS DON'T TALK and CAN'T UNDERSTAND unless
IT is THINKIN of DOIN the behavior you REWARD.

You CANNOT OFFER and WITHHOLD a "REWARD" or BRIBE
on accHOWENT Of THAT INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS to
DANGERHOWES LEVELS where OCD'S and SEIZURES occur.

AND WITHHOLDING BRIBES VIOLATES UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
TRUST and RESPECT, DON'T IT, DOG LOVERS <{); ~ ) >

> with treats,

Treats are for FUN, not trainin.

>  some with verbal praise,

NO. You CANNOT PRAISE AFTER THE FACT nodoGgamenedMOORE
than you can PUNISH AFTER THE FACT on accHOWENT OF the
DOG AIN'T THINKIN OF HOWE COME HE'S GETTIN IT <{); ~ ) >

THINK TIMING.

There's another ADVANTAGE, you don't got to WORRY
abHOWET a POORLY TIMED CORRECTION on accHOWENT of
YOU CAN'T HURT THE DOG WHEN YOU PRAISE HIM FOR BEIN
FEAR AGGRESSIVE <{); ~ ) >

> some with physical praise,

You CANNOT USE physical praise INCLUDING TREATS
on accHOWENT of IT STOPS THE THINKING PROCESS
through THIGMOTAXIS, racetrack silly. THE DOG
NEEDS TO THINK for five to fifteen seconds for
EVERY LERNING EXXXPERIENCE to be PUPPRERLY learned.

> some with a brief period of play,

ONLY IF YOU KNOW HOWE. Read LeeCharlesKelley's
EXXXCELLENT book "No Bad Dogs Only Bad TRAINERS."

LeeCharlesKelley TAUGHT you HOWE to use PLAY or
HUNTING INSTINCT TRAINING METHODS. Your own pal
elizabeth naime ADMITTED SHE SEEN IT WORK.

REMEMBER? You and your PALS called LeeCharlesKelley
A LAIR and FRAUD. REMEMBER racetrack silly?

>  some with a combination or with different things
> at different times - - because different dogs value
> different things.

You mean you VIOLATE the SCIENTIFIC METHOD to
suite your dog's PREFERENCES? ANd your dogs
PREFER to ge