Help! My cat has suffered from three urinary blockages due to UTI. We've had
him under control for over a year but today he is infected again. We have him
on Zenequin for the infection and he still has a good flow of urine but I'm
terrified that we won't clear up the infection on time and he'll block again.
I can't stand the thought of him enduring hospitalization and catheterization
again so I'm desperately seeking ideas to intervene early and prevent
blockage. His vet (who is amazing) is not available today and the other vet
on call is incompetent to say the least. Will sub q fluids help? IV? Anything
else I can do? Any help anyone can offer my baby is greatly appreciated. Phil
P. - if you are out there, you gave me great advice in the past - any
thoughts?
HOWEDY noelsmom,
> Help! My cat has suffered from three urinary blockages due to UTI.
Naaaah. That's BULLSHIT. Your kat has been sufferin STRESS INDUCED
AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome JUST LIKE
HOWE most of the other EXXXPERTS dogs an kats are DYIN from <{) : ~ (
> We've had him under control for over a year but today he is infected again.
Naaaaah. He's been havin other symptoms all along. You just ain't
NOTICED
on accHOWENT of you think his behaviors are NORMAL <{) : ~ { >
> We have him on Zenequin for the infection and he still has a good flow of
> urine but I'm terrified that we won't clear up the infection on time and he'll
> block again.
Your vet will eagerly perform $1500.00 dollars of UNNECESSARY surgery.
> I can't stand the thought of him enduring hospitalization and catheterization again
RIGHT. THAT'S HOWE COME your vet will RECOMMEND
SURGERY.IT'S HIS BREAD AN BUTTER, noelsmom <{) ; ~ ) >
> so I'm desperately seeking ideas to intervene early and prevent blockage.
You got to CURE his DIS-EASE. You gotta look into NUTRITION and learn
DIFFERENT methods of HANDLING your kitty kat, noelsmom <{) ; ~ ) >
Here's your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual to address the behavioral
aspects of this DEATHLY DIS-EASE <{) ; ~ ) >
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> His vet (who is amazing)
That so? DO TELL???
> is not available today and the other vet on call is incompetent to say the least.
"You're JUDGED BY the company you keep," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{) ;
~ ) >
> Will sub q fluids help? IV? Anything else I can do?
The Amazing Pussy Wizard is NOT a veterinarian. HOWEver, here's
The Amazing Pussy's Wizard's holistic vetreinarian who IS AMAZING:
Dr. Roger L. DeHaan, DVM, MTS
105 Police Club Drive
Kings Mountain, NC 28086
Tel/Fax 704-734-0061
> Any help anyone can offer my baby is greatly appreciated.
You DIDN'T GET nodoGdameneD heelp from the mentally ill
lying dog kat and child abusin cowards you're askin here abHOWETS.
> Phil P. - if you are out there, you gave me great advice in the past -
With all due respect to Phil P, if he gave you GREAT ADVICE in the
past YOUR KAT WOULDN'T BE SICK RIGHT NHOWE. WOULD HE.
> any thoughts?
Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences
On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer
Emotional Influences On Behavior
Illness is directly related to depression and lack of
adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens,
McConville & Kaplan, 1966).
A WIDE RANGE of PSYCHOSOMATIC or
CORTICOVISCERAL DIS-EASES was surveyed
by Wittkower (1965) to demonstrate the enormous
importance of emotional factors in general health.
Interview findings of emotional material (recently
experienced hopelessness) pryor to biological
examinations correctly identified 11 out of 19 with
cervical cancer, and 25 of 32 who were cancer free
even though psychological tests failed to discriminate
these groups (Schmale & Iker, 1966)
150 lung cancer patients showed significantly
constricted expression of emotions. The had fewer
childhood behavior problems, and lower neuroticism
score than their cancer free controls. Heavy cigarette
smokers who DO NOT INHALE are more apt to have LUNG
CANCER. They, too, show LOWER neuroticism scores.
Among heavy cigarette smokers poor emotional
expression is as highly related to cancer as urban
residence and is more important than a chronic cough
or an air polluted environment (Kissen, 1966).
A ten year observation of all the women who developed
cancer in an isolated pupulation of 2,550 showed that
they tended to be unstable or sub stable personalities
characterized by melancholy and extraversion,
especially marked with those of an undecided body
build (Hagll, 1966). Personality dynamics effect both
the development of cancer and it's SITE. Cancer
may result from what appears to be a failure to grow--
somatically, behaviorally and psychologically
(Grinker, 1966).
In 109 cases leukemia and lymphoma were associated
with a number of losses or separations and with
feelings of sadness, anxiety, anger or hopelessness.
The PRIMARY FACTOR seems to be the shame and
hopelessness of running out of psychological resources
(Green, 1966). Cervical cancer patients are less
emotionally responsive, more isolative, and less
frequently diagnosed as having clinical neuroses than
cancer free patients. There is NO CLEAR DIFFERENCE in
their FEELINGS and ATTITUDES toward coitus (Rotkin,
Qunk, & Couchman, 1965).
Schmidt (1966) surveyed nearly 100 studies of
behaviorally induced DIS-EASE in animals CONFIRMING
and EXTENDING the DATA on PEOPLE. Behaviorally
induced DIS-EASES tend to fall into two groups;
(1) Hysteriform problems, which INCLUDE HYSTERICAL
SEIZURES and FORMS of AGGRESSION as well as
collective panic and epilepsies;
(2) organic modifications, including functional
difficulties and lesions affecting gastro intestinal,
cardio vascular, respiratory, sexual, endocrine, skin,
urinary, and neuro muscular systems.
It is INTERESTING, and SLIGHTLY HORRIFYING,
to note that the ONLY SCIENTIFIC RELEVANCE of
the standard six hour school day that I have been
able to detect in research is that Sawrey and Weisz
quite by accident found that six hours on and six
hour off of "EXECUTIVE BEHAVIOR" in monkeys was
the ONLY TIME STRUCTURE that INDUCED DEATH
PRODUCING ULCERS.
From: "I Am" <HisMastersVoice@HushMail.Com>
Date: 16 Feb 2005 21:32:31 -0800
Subject: Researchers Find Link Between Stress And Illness
Researchers Find Link Between Stress And Illness
Jun 30, 2003 5:00 pm US/Eastern WASHINGTON (AP)
It's no surprise that constant stress can make people sick,
and now a team of researchers has figured out how.
A study focused on 119 men and women who were taking care
of spouses with dementia. The health of the caregivers was
compared with that of 106 people of similar ages who were
not living under the stress of constant care giving.
Blood tests showed that a chemical called Interleukin-6 sharply
increased in the blood of the stressed caregivers
compared with blood of the others in the test. Previous
studies have associated IL-6 with several diseases, including
heart disease, arthritis, osteoporosis, type-2 diabetes and certain
cancers.
The study also found the increase in IL-6 can linger in
caregivers for as long as three years after a caregiver
had ceased that role because of the spouse's death. Of
the test group, 78 spouses died during the survey.
"This really makes a link to why chronic stress can actually
kill people," said Janice Kiecolt-Glaser, professor of
psychology and psychiatry at Ohio State University. "We haven't had a
good mechanism before."
She explained that people under stress tend to respond
by doing things that can increase their levels of IL-6.
For example, they may smoke or overeat; smoking raises IL-6
levels, and the chemical is secreted by fat cells. Stressed
people also may not get enough exercise or sleep, she added.
Exercise reduces IL-6, she said, and normal sleep helps regulate levels
of the chemical.
It clearly points to the need to control stress better,
she said.
The findings by the research group, headed by Kiecolt-Glaser
and her husband, Ronald Glaser, a professor of molecular
virology, immunology and medical genetics at Ohio State, appear in this
week's issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
(© 2003 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. )
http://wcbs880.com/siteSearch/health_story_181153905.html
R&D Systems: IL-6 Everything Cytokine & Beyond ELISAs, proteins,
antibodies & more www.RnDSystems.com
The Puppy Wizard's FREE TEN STEP DIAGNOSTIC / REHABILITATION
PROGRAM
HOWEDY professor SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM 'NO!' into ITS face and
lock IT in a box for ten minutes reflection," dermer
Re: Max--Vomiting, Lethargy, Discomfort, Fever -
The Puppy Wizard's FREE TEN STEP DIAGNOSTIC / REHABILITATION
PROGRAM
"Marshall Dermer" <der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:be06ls$j6i$1@uwm.edu...
> Max has a new problem: Max is our 5.5 yr old,
> neutered Havanese with a history of acute gastritis.
The Puppy Wizard believes your dog's health problems
are the physical manifestation of emotional distress.
> Max is fed four times daily for otherwise he vomits.
Ever consider it's your dysfunctional method of intimidating,
punishing, forcing control, and mishandling him thru your
preferred lunacy of duminance, intimidation, forced restraint, and
your SCRUFF SHAKE???
Your dog Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator has OCMD
(obsessive compulsive masturbatory disorder), a dissasociative
anxiety relief mechanism. It's his ONLY defense mechanism, bein as
small as he is. The Puppy Wizard's GIANT breed dogs would simply
SCRUFF SHAKE YOU, and BE DONE with their ANXIETY, as YOU DO HIM.
> Max has had calcium oxalate uroliths removed about
> 9 months ago and now exclusively eats Hills Canine
> U/D, plus rice cakes as treats.
INDEED. Bribing and withholding treats increases
anxiety, which is restimulated every time the
"command" he's been "taught" using withholding of
bribes is requested, even many years into the future.
> Max has had a history of "attacks" that occur about every
> 30 days.
Your little dog Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator has his DAILY
ATTACKS of ANXIETY on any day you fail to expiate his ANXIETY thru
five miles of bicycle chasing.
IS THAT NOT SO, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
> Four attacks so far. He vomits, refuses food (but not water),
> and then either becomes lethargic or moves from position to
> position.
SHOWENDS like the same same same same symptoms CHILDREN manifest,
who DON'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL.
> He often also develops a fever.
HOWE HIGH is his fever? The Puppy Wizard KNOWS physical symptoms
such as "idiopathic epilepsy" seizures, "undiagnosed" intestinal
and digestive disorders, ALL OCD behaviors, endocrine
malfunctions, and other PSYCHOSOMATIC disorders can and usually
are, CAUSED BY STRESS.
> The attack two days ago went as follows:
> 1. He vomited at about 5:30 AM with nothing
> much in the vomit.
> 2. At about 9 AM I fed him a little rice ground
> chicken and he vomited this.
> 3. By 8 PM his temp was 102.5.
NORMAL temps are 101.5 - 102. THAT SUGGESTS to The Puppy Wizard
that Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator's "FEVER" is PSYCHOSOMATIC,
a result of non physical STRESS, as in the "Spike & Squirt"
phenomena described in McProtection Training.
> 4. By 10 PM he was hot to the touch, panting, and
> moving from one position to another. He remained
> in a given position for only a few minutes.
Like HOWE a kid who's trying to get HOWET of
goin to school today...
> 5. By 3 PM the fever broke and he was resting comfortably.
Like HOWE a kid who's SUCCEEDED at gettin HOWETA school today.
> 6. The following day he was returning to his normal behavior.
Like HOWE a kid who's SATISFIED at having got HOWETA school
YESTERDAY.
> 7. Two days, post attack, he is normal though he has loose,
> orange stool. This has cleared up with time.
These symptoms are COMMON, professor. The Puppy Wizard has SEEN
EVIDENCE in the DEAD DOGS who've HAD NO SYMPTOMS while boarded at
The Puppy Wizard's kennels PRYOR to being MISDIAGNOSED by "THE
BEST" VETERINARY SPECIALISTS.
SAME SAME as HOWER friend melanie chang has SEEN with her dog
Solo, while she was on vacation and Solo had the BLISS of a NORMAL
kennel ENVIRONMENT.
> AFTER these attacks we have brought Max to the vet.
KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!
> An x-ray revealed nothing.
Well, it IS fortunate for the VET that you're able to afford such
luxury on a professor's salary.
> A month ago, a sonogram was conducted and his
> blood was tested for one of the pancreatic enzymes
> (perhaps amalayse). The enzyme test was negative.
Well, as time endures and you continue to MISHANDLE him, the
physical symptoms will likely continue to exacerbate, PROFESSOR.
You'll get your "medical" findings, bye and bye, no dHOWEt.
> On reading the sonograms, a veterinary radiologist was not
> concerned about the sludge in Max's gall bladder but was
> concerned that the pancreas had a "hot spot" and that the
> walls of Max's stomach were thickened.
The CONSTANT intermittent STRESS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING will break
dHOWEn ANY organism.
> The radiologist recommended biopsies of the stomach
> wall and pancreas.
KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!
> One month ago, when the sonogram was taken my
> vet was reluctant to perform the biopsies. He
> recommended putting Max on Pepcid AC daily.
PERHAPS your vet "KNOWS" sumpthin The
Puppy Wizard KNOWS, professor?
> So that is what we did. About 2.5 gm every 8 hrs.
> Despite the Pepcid AC Max had an attack two days
> ago.
PRECISELY. You cannot expect ANYTHING to
override the constant restimulation of STRESS
produced by INTIMIDATION.
> Now my vet is suggesting exploratory surgery.
KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!
> I've contacted Max's breeder for his parents produced
> about a dozen puppies. The breeder is not aware of
> such a problem with the other offspring.
These and other OCD related behaviors can be
duplicated EZ, professor.
> My wife is reluctant to have the exploratory surgery
> performed. I guess she wants to wait and see if Max
> has another attack. (I feel so sorry for Max as he
> endures these attacks.)
DO YOU NHOWE?
> Another approach is to bring Max in for a sonogram and
> additional diagnostic work WHEN HE IS ACCUTE.
KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!
> I talked to the local emergency veterinary clinic and
> a doctor said that this is possible and it would be
> desirable for the clinic to have Max's records so that
> the clinic does not repeat tests.
A WIZE idea, professor.
> My own thought, if my wife would agree, is to have
> exploratory surgery about two weeks after an attack.
KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!
> Any other options or thoughts?
INDEED, professor SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
'NO!' into ITS face and lock IT in a box for ten minutes
reflection," dermer.
First and ONLY WON question is, DO YOU CRATE Maxie The Magnificent
Masturbator? That could be the primary cause of his STRESS, as at
the age of 5 years, he's unlikely to have any behavior problems
which you have not SCRUFF SHAKEN HOWETA HIM.
Crating RESTIMULATES and REINFORCES phobias, professor. You'll see
EVIDENCE of THAT in Crystal Arcidy's reports on her FREE WWW Wits'
End Trained dog Starr. See "Starry's Scary Night."
The Puppy Wizard has a recommendation and an option which MIGHT
resolve ALL HOWER problems, professor. The reason the suggestion
is modified by MIGHT is, on accHOWEnt of The Puppy Wizard cannot
control the environment if HE'S not there to SUPERVISE
implementation of the TECHNIQUES HE offers you today.
Here's HOWE to CURE Maxie's OCD behavior's and life threatening
physical health dilemmas:
First, STUDY your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual.
Second, CALL The Puppy Wizard with all members of Maxie's
immediate family so we're ALL on the same page and NOBODY will
CONFLICT with or STRESS him in ANY WAY.
Third, STOP all BRIBES, CORRECTIONS, INTIMIDATION, CRATING, and
discontinue excessive physical exercise to expiate his anxiety. We
WANT his behavior problems to manifest SO WE CAN EXTINGUISH THEM.
Fourth, The Puppy Wizard will LOAN you for FREE, HIS "AMAZING,
MIRACULHOWES, INCREDIBLE" MAGNIFICENT Doggy Do Right (And Kitty
Will And
A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two Did Too) Machine
and YOU will AGREE to FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS.
Fifth, you or any family member will call The Puppy Wizard
IMMEDIATELY and relate details and ask advice for appupriately
controlling EACH and EVERY instance of Maxie The Magnificent
Masturbator's inappropriate puppy behavior problems, instead of
tellin him "NO!" or otherWIZE negatively interacting with him.
Sixth, you and each member of your immediate family pack will work
five minutes every other day learning HOWE to expiate your dog
Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator's anxiety thru the MAGICK of The
Puppy Wizard's Four Step Heeling Pattern Exercise as articulated
in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual, to TEACH Maxie there is NOTHING TO FEAR in
MAKING MISTAKES.
Seventh, at the end of thirty days, you will report HOWER findings
to your veterinary, the head of your university
department of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM, and to the Whole
Wild World...
Eighth, IN RETURN, you will have your dog Maxie The FORMER
Magnificent Masturbator returned to EXCELLENT health, and The
Puppy Wizard agrees to FORGIVE and FORGET ALL PAST INDISCRETIONS
and SUBVERSIVE activities you've committed against The Puppy
Wizard and all mankind...
Ninth, you will serve as EMISSARY and sever as EXPERT WITNESS for
The Puppy Wizard and ENDORSE HIS METHODS and MACHINE as the WON
true way to CURE ALL animal and child behavior problems and bring
PEACE, HEALTH, and PROSPERITY to the Whole Wild World.
Tenth, IF YOU FAIL to succeed after your thirty day EXPERIMENT,
you'll agree to ship Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator TO The
Puppy Wizard at HIS EXPENSE, for a two week stay FOR FREE, to
PERFORM THE MAGICK HISSELF.
> Thanks,
It don't get no goddamned better than THAT, professor.
> --Marshall
Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Animal Behavior Sciences
Forensic Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
Here it is: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A
Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you
need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO
arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so
study it well and do and follow ALL the
EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a
PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET
100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT
SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in
all fields or utilities and behaviors all over
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The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
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oo-oo
Punishment Deranges Behavior.
"NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
EXCEPT
To DERANGE Behaviors.
Here's professor dermer pryor:
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST
And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?
Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.
(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.),
--Marshall
Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/ University of
Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee, WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
"Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"
From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps
In article <6s6ea0$8c...@uwm.edu> der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall
Dermer) writes:
>In article <35E60819.65178...@pilot.msu.edu> tami sutherland
><suthe...@pilot.msu.edu> writes:
>> However, there have been incidences where she has
>> growled and snapped at us...for instance, when we
>> were trying to dry her off after bathtime.
> When your three-month old pooch growls or snaps, IMMEDIATELY
> pick her up ONLY by the skin at the back of her neck, for 5
> sec, and loudly say, "NO!" Alternatively, say "NO!" and hold
> her mouth shut for say 15 sec.
> If she so snaps that you can't do the above then you
> will have to find another way to administer a prompt
> correction, for example, throwing a can filled with
> pennies, or a tug on the collar.
--Marshall
"Oops! I would start by only holing her mouth
shut for say 5 sec.
At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.
First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.
How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.
**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************
When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).
"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.
BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!
That's INSANE. Ain't it.
Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:
"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.
From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
Subject: < BEFORE -> "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
No Good Charlatan,"
< AFTER -> "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
Dog Lovers.
'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.
>Subject: Re: Fritz---a retrospective
>Date: 02/05/1999
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of sh.t you really are
Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?
Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman
=====================
> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus
<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.
Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
===========
Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy,
"you insipid piece of cow dung!"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400
Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.
I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.
There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.
Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology
From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:26:31 GMT
Subject: Dr. George VonHilshimer Writes: "No Loving, No Learning."
HOWEDY People,
Perhaps the PROBLEM is "TOO MANY WORDS?"
From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop
> From: "diannes" <dian...@bolt.sonic.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.
> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.
> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that
> > > leap.
> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.
> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:
Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.
> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.
This is not negative reinforcement. Negative means no.
Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;
Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;
Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;
The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;
Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .
There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? -- too aversive.
I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD. Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.
NO PUNISHMENT.
Must pay attention to who is the animal?
His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog? So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.
I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than
the methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.
Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.
Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.
You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.
Fondly, Dr. Von
From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method
I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.
The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.
It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.
Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.
One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.
When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.
You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).
Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.
What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.
At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.
Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.
Is Jerry a nut?
It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.
More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.
I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?
Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.
Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.
Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.
Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.
If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry
From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm.
My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.
Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
"Ama...@DCFWatch.com" wrote:
No, the dog learned that I would hold still
the second she began to pull. She would pull
to go where *she* wanted.
Well if she wanted to stop and go in another
direction.. say to sniff my neighbors yard..
she learned if she wanted to do it I would stop
walking and she could go.. and if there wasn't
enough slack on her lead she would just pull me.
Then when she got done doing *her* thing, she woudl
heel.. smile at me and wait for me to say "let's go"
and finish *my* thing. I would refuse to move .. i
looked like an idiot.. freezing mid walk for minutes
waiting for *my* dog to heel and give *me* permission
to go again.
I did the treats and the let's go... she got to do her
stuff and get a cookie.. if she even wanted the cookie.
I wound up calling Jerry.. as I have a half red nose
pit and half amstaff.. who is incredibly protective..
we had a new pup on the way.. and i needed help.. i
followed petsmarts trainnign guides.. memorized them...
and they *did* work, don't get me wrong.. but only
when my pet wanted a cookie or felt the cookie was
better than what she wanted.. which was not often.
She quickly learned to ignore my commands if she
could see my hands were empty. So I called Jerry...
he chatted me for about an hour and a half.. gave me
his link... and even when i had probs intro'ing the
pup he called me withn i5 mins of my email for help
at 10pm on a sunday night.
One.. singular.. uno family pack exercise after
the hot and cold exercise and i could zig zag
down my street.. about face .. whatever.. and
never had tension.
two men were acrossed the street and she walked right
by them... ordinarily she'd snarl and protect us.
And in two days.. my dog.. who bit the puppy if he
even looked like he was going near my husband or kids..
is nursing him every hour.. cleaning him.. rough housing
gently.. and teaching him to go potty outside..
actually watches him to make sure he doesn't go in
the house... and has milk.. which is awesome since
she's 19 months old and has never had a litter.
She also has stopped barking non stop at our neighbor's
dogs and pig.. does not bark at eveyr car that drives by
and has stopped jumping on people. she's even starting
to ignore our cat who has lived on her dome litter box
and our window sill (literally) for over a year and a half.
She also does her commands on cue.. and doesn't look for a treat.
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: The Amazing Jerry's take on psychobabble
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:13:44 -0400
You might improve the learning of folk who actually
live with and train dogs to do useful things if you
excluded everyone who uses psychobabble from your lists.
I recommend to all of you who wish to taste the flavor
of sensible animal behaviorists to read THE MISBEHAVIOR
OF ORGANISMS, Breland and Breland.
This married pair of psychologists began the long trail
of highly trained animals who are symbolized by Shamu
eating a mackrel from a girl's hand instead of eating
the much more tasty pretty girl who is exactly the size
of the natural food of killer whales, seals. Yum!
The essay, by the way, is a chapter in B.F. Skinner's
summing up book, CUMULATIVE RECORD. They include a
sentence which more or less says, "unless you understand
the personal history of the particular animal, and the
history of this animal's species and group, the developmental
history of the animal, you cannot effectively train the animal.
Pigs root and hen's scratch, if you try to train hens without
scratching or pigs without scratching or pigeons without pecking,
you aren't going to have much success.
A conditional reflex is one which is learned, the original
primitive reflex occurs no matter what the history of the
animal, and is hard wired. If you train the animal to respond,
say by ringing a bell immediately before turning on a bright
light, then you've taught the animal and made his native reflex
of pupil constriction conditional upon the ringing of a bell.
Thorndyke added some terminology to this kind of training
and insisted that when you train the animal to make gross
motor responses that this learning is "instrumental", the
animal takes action and uses an instrument.
The Russian word translated as "conditional" in all other
contexts was mistranslated by Pavlov's American translator,
Horsley Gannt, as "conditioned" and so American psychology
went haring after phantasmagora.
The major theorists for the development of the language of
operant conditioning are Edward Thorndike, John Watson, and
B. F. Skinner. Their approach to behaviorism played a major
role in the development of American psychology.
They proposed that learning is the result of the application
of consequences; that is, learners begin to connect certain
responses with certain stimuli. This connection causes the
probability of the response to change (i.e., learning occurs.)
Thorndike labeled this type of learning instrumental. Using
consequences, he taught kittens to manipulate a latch (e.g.,
an instrument). Skinner renamed instrumental as "operant"
because in this learning, one is "operating" on, and is
influenced by, the environment. Where classical conditioning
illustrates S-->R learning, operant conditioning is often
viewed as R-->S learning since it is the consequence that
follows the response that influences whether the response
is likely or unlikely to occur again.
It is through operant conditioning that
voluntary responses are learned.
One should note that Russian Psychology did very well
without the operant language, and only pettifogging
university professors ought to worry about what kind
of label we attach to the learning. Pfui!
Even Skinner understood this!
And please note if you saw the original movie, THE
MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, you saw a Chinese psychologist
who was based on Andrew Salter, CONDITIONED REFLEX
THERAPY.
Alas, Salter didn't have a Ph.D., but he basically rescued
us from the long Freudian nightmare and returned psychotherapy
to a scientific basis. Alas, the 2nd movie didn't even cite
Salter as a source. "...all the highest nervous activity, as
it manifests itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a
continual change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition." Ivan P. Pavlov
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat
the fish and not the pretty girl?"
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice
Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.
I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.
I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:
whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.
The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).
You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.
As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine
"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
news:
I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.
At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.
I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.
I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.
I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.
At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"
I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."
*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)
As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.
The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!
Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?
I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.
When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"
The results can make a believer!!!
Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.
He just seemed to not notice any one.
When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.
If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.
My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.
I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!
================================
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression
Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.
We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!
We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.
He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!
Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.
I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!
I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.
I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-
- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.
They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.
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Jason James - 18 Jan 2006 06:59 GMT
HOWEDY noelsmom,
noelsmom via CatKB.com wrote:
> Help! My cat has suffered from three urinary blockages due to UTI.
Naaaah. That's BULLSHIT. Your kat has been sufferin STRESS INDUCED
AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome JUST LIKE
HOWE most of the other EXXXPERTS dogs an kats are DYIN from <{) : ~ (
> We've had him under control for over a year but today he is infected again.
Naaaaah. He's been havin other symptoms all along. You just ain't
NOTICED
on accHOWENT of you think his behaviors are NORMAL <{) : ~ { >
> We have him on Zenequin for the infection and he still has a good flow of
> urine but I'm terrified that we won't clear up the infection on time and he'll
> block again.
Your vet will eagerly perform $1500.00 dollars of UNNECESSARY surgery.
Nice theory about stress related disease, but an illusion except for the
most serious of cases. All living things need stress to proceed with their
life and to act as a warning of impending injury or death.
Who said that "each organism spends it life reacting to discomfort (stress)
to attain comfort" or a variation of that paraphrase?
In the end the equation of life remains unchanged ie organism responds to
stimulous to divide and hence grow,. a sick person uses the effort of the
carer to sustain their life. That sustenance is debited from the carer,..the
equation remains unchanged....
Jason
abRokeNegRo - 18 Jan 2006 08:01 GMT
> Nice theory about stress related disease, but an illusion except for the
> most serious of cases. All living things need stress to proceed with their
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> Jason
Well put Jason
mhmm
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory@HushMail.Com - 18 Jan 2006 11:07 GMT
HOWEDY Jason,
> HOWEDY noelsmom,
>
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> Nice theory about stress related disease,
Theories are UNPROVEN suppHOWESITIONS <{) : ~ ) >
Animal Behavior Sciences Forensic Research PROVES IT
using CASE HISTORY DATA and 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL REHABILITATION of
ALL temperament and behavior problems by simply DOIN
EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of
HOWE the self proclaimed EXXXPERTS and university
trained behaviorists teach us to do to HOWER critters.
Dogs kats kids an ladies are VERY SENSITIVE critters:
"Our Misty (spayed male 5yo), hates his front or baxk paws to be
touched, even accidently. He'll go for a quick strike with his mouth
which hurts usually,..while Fatso is much more tolerant,...he'll
started opening his mouth and play "trying to bite you" to convey
he has had enough.
They're all different. Best o luck," Jason
-----------
The SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR AIN'T LUCK, Jason.
> but an illusion except for the most serious of cases.
No, Jason. So called traditioinal trainin is the ILLUSION AS
EVIDENCED BY YOUR OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY <{) : ~ ) >
> All living things need stress to proceed with their life
Just makin it through the day is ENOUGH stress, Jason,
TRUST The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) : ~ ) >
> and to act as a warning of impending injury or death.
THAT'S HOWER JOB, not THEIRS, Jason. WE got the
RESPONSIBILITY to PROTECT and SERVE HOWER
gentle tender lovin critters <{) : ~ ) >
Like grieving, for EXXXAMPLE. We can't allHOWE HOWER
critters to tough it HOWET on their own using treats as sub-
stitutes for their pal. To cure fretting all we gotta do is TALK
to HOWER critters abHOWET their deceased pals, mentioning
their names and talkin abHOWET them usin words they'd
associate with them.
> Who said that "each organism spends it life reacting to
> discomfort (stress) to attain comfort" or a variation of that
> paraphrase?
You mean life is tough enough just makin it through the day?
The Amazing Puppy Wizard is HIGHLY UNEDUCATED, Jason.
Perhaps we can ask a EXXXPERT like professor of ANAL-ytic
behaviorISM at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE And SCREAM
"NO!" Into ITS Face For FIVE SECONDS And Lock IT In A Box
For Ten Minutes Contemplation" dermer. He's studied EVERYWON
else's work and can cite you chapter an verse, verbatum <{) ; ~ ) >
HOWEver, that not withstanding, fully 90% of ALL DISEASES are
so called iatrogenic / idiopathic / STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE
DYSFUNCTION aka The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{) ; ~ ) >
And ALL temperament and behavior problems are CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING therefore can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY <{) ; ~ ) >
THAT'S BEEN PROVEN RIGHT HERE, Jason <{) ; ~ ) >.
> In the end the equation of life remains unchanged ie organism responds to
> stimulous to divide and hence grow,. a sick person uses the effort of the
> carer to sustain their life. That sustenance is debited from the carer,..the
> equation remains unchanged....
Kinda like a simbiotic relationship, eh Jason?
"Familiarity breeds CONTEMPT":
Your kats WANT to be PALS but they're AFRAID of TRUSTING.
You sez:
"In any case a kitten allowed to socialise with an older
cat is not always the best thing until the kitten is
older."
So he can HOLD HIS OWN in a FIGHT???
From: "Jason James" <associ...@dodo.comzapspam.au>
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:03:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Can someone explain my cats' behavior?
> So my question is - why do they groom each other if it always ends in
> fighting? Is it possible for them to groom without fighting? Do they
> "like" each other? Thanks!
We have the same situation, tho they only do it very occasionally now.
At
first I had to separate them (in fact I put the stray outside until
meal-timees for a few weeks),.after a few weeks they learnt to tolerate
each
other,...most of the time.
We are after-all talking about 2 males who have not grown-up together.
I
think its virtually normal behaviour at first, based on territory and
stuff.
Jason
---------
At any rate it's been REAL NICE meetin you Jason, you're a
gentleman AND a scholar, in my never to be humble opinion.
HOWEver, there's no need to rely on The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's accHOWENT for any of this. stuff. Perhaps you can
benefit from someWON you already know an trust?:
Subject: < BEFORE -> "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
No Good Charlatan,"
< AFTER -> "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
Dog Lovers.
'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.
> Subject: Re: Fritz---a retrospective
> Date: 02/05/1999
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of sh.t you really are
Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?
Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman
=====================
> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus
<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
>
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.
Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
===========
Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy, "you insipid piece of cow dung!"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Here's professor dermer pryor:
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST
And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?
Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.
(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.), --Marshall
Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/ University of
Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee, WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
"Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"
From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps
In article <6s6ea0$8c...@uwm.edu> der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu
(Marshall Dermer) writes:In article <35E60819.65178...@pilot.msu.edu>
> tami sutherland <suthe...@pilot.msu.edu> writes:
>> However, there have been incidences where she has
>> growled and snapped at us...for instance, when we
>> were trying to dry her off after bathtime.
> When your three-month old pooch growls or snaps, IMMEDIATELY
> pick her up ONLY by the skin at the back of her neck, for 5
> sec, and loudly say, "NO!" Alternatively, say "NO!" and hold
> her mouth shut for say 15 sec.
> If she so snaps that you can't do the above then you
> will have to find another way to administer a prompt
> correction, for example, throwing a can filled with
> pennies, or a tug on the collar. --Marshall
"Oops! I would start by only holing her mouth
shut for say 5 sec.
At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.
First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.
How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.
**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************
When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).
"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.
BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!
That's INSANE. Ain't it.
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400
Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.
I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.
There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.
Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so
humorless a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like
the Breland's whose "The Misbehavior of Organisms"
demonstrate the utility of your methods and their deep
roots in scientific (as opposed to commercial) psychology.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology
----------------------
Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:
"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.
From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
HOWEDY dallygirl,
dallygirl wrote:
> have you taken a trip to the vets yet?
BWEEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
> the reason i ask is that my patterdale was displaying similar symptoms
Naaaaah???
> and had to go on human ibs treatment for a hernia on her bowel.
BWEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
> it could be anyone of a number of things,
Oh, INDEEDY! JERKING CHOKING SHOCKING SCOLDING
SPRAYING AVERSIVES IN YOUR DOG'S FACE CRATING...
LOTS of EXXXCELLENT CAUSES, dallygirly!
> visit your vet for peace of mind
You should visit your PSYCH DOC, dallygirly, you freakin
dog and child abusing MENTAL CASE <{) : ~ ) >
> and he will show you how to handle your dog and help him.
He'll teach him HOWE to RESTRAIN his dog, NOT TRAIN IT.
IN FACT, THAT'S ANOTHER CAUSE of this STRESS INDUCED
AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome:
HOWEDY Charley's human,
Charley's human wrote:
Need tips, hints....for teaching a cat to use
a scratching post instead of the furniture.
Thanks! Michelle
==========
Here's ALL the INFORMATION you need to CURE ALL your
kat's heelth, temperament and behavior problems caused
by REPRESSION INTIMIDATION and offering and witholding
bribes attention and affection aka STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Pussy Wizard's Syndrome <(@} ; ~ ) >
<{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
Just substitute the words dog or puppy with kat,
kitten, child or SP-HOWES on accHOWENT of <(@} : ~ ) >
ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS
ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING.
ALL Critters Only Respond In PREDICTABLE INNATE
NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs,
ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
A Dog Is A Dog
As A Kat Is A Kat
As A Birdie Is A Birdie
As A Child Is A Child
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition." Ivan P. Pavlov.
"Postitive emotions arising in connection with
the perfection of a skill, irrespective of its
pragmatic significance at a given moment, serve
as the reinforcement. IOW, emotions, not outside
rewards, are what reinforces any behavior," Pavlov.
"All animals learn best through play," -- Konrad Lorenz
"Complex activities are LEARNED MORE QUICKLY
through OBSERVATION (copying, if you will) than
by trial and error with reinforcemet (Luchins,)."
Pavlov Told Us So 100 Years Ago. Sam Corson,
Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH
Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The
Scientific Management Of Doggys. <{) ; ~ ) >
"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).
A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."
It's unfortunate the KAT LOVERS here have givin you some of
the MOST BRUTAL advice available in creation on sindy SADIST
mooreon's k9web page. She's a MENTAL CASE.
The links you've been given advise you to bribe scold and spray
aversives in your kat's face DESPITE that Dr. Christianne Schelling
the VETERINARIAN ADVISING you to do so likeWIZE SEZ "DO NOT
PUNISH YOUR KAT" for scratching.
What a hipocrite!
YOU TOO for that matter!
From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop
> From: "diannes" <dian...@bolt.sonic.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Counter Cruising must stop
> > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > I wrote:
> > > > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On another note: I understand why someone
> > > > > proclaiming a method that works on all dogs,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.
> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.
> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that
> > > leap.
> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.
> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:
Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.
> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.
This is not negative reinforcement. Negative means no.
Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;
Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;
Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;
The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;
Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .
There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? -- too aversive.
I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD. Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.
NO PUNISHMENT.
Must pay attention to who is the animal?
His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog? So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.
I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than the
methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.
Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.
Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.
You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.
Fondly, Dr. Von
------------------
Your kat is DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE
aka The Pussy Wizard's Syndrome <(@}:* ~ ( > JUST LIKE HOWE
most of the kat abusing mental case's kats who SHARE THE SAME
SAME SAME SAME PROBLEMS for the SAME SAME SAME SAME
REASONS:
From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 9 Oct 2005 12:01:47 -0700
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
At least I know that I'm not alone concerning Charley's fetish about
closed doors. :-) I suspect that our lack of a clear cut schedule
exacerbates the issue, as IBen pointed out. And lots of times, he is
segregated in a room with all of his needs met, except for his desire
to be out and about. However, I may try the catnip. And we are trying
very hard to ignore him when he throws a fit--but gee, he can be
persistent. I would be absolutely THRILLED if Charley would simply lay
down and take a nap with me. Nothing better than a cuddly kitty. But
Charley is just awfully busy.
Thanks for the commiserating and the ideas!
Michelle
Charley's human wrote:
I have a one year old neutered male cat who is totally offended by
closed doors. Due to our odd sleep schedules, we often nap in the
afternoon. When one of us lays down, we close the door because the
cat, Charley, is likely to come in and play around or talk. He's
really quite chatty. Although he has the whole run of the house and
others may still be up to keep him company, he must go to the napper's
door and meow, stick his paw under the door and rattle it, or leap for
the door knob trying to open it. This behavior usually gets him
stashed in another bedroom, and I usually go and lay down with him to
quiet him. Lately, even that hasn't helped. He pitches a hissy fit
that lasts around 15 minutes before finally resigning himself to the
inevitable. Of course, the latter wouldn't be necessary if he'd just
leave the napper's door alone.
Any ideas? Insight? All thoughts appreciated.
Thanks! Michelle
> Thanks for all of your replies. I'm checking out the suggested
> websites as we speak...er, so to speak. ;-) Btw, where does
> one find valerian oil?
>
> Thanks! Michelle
You DON'T NEED valarian for your kat.
YOU NEED A PSYCHIATRIST for yourself JUST LIKE
your KAT LOVER PALS got for themselves. YOUR
KAT IS DYIN RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU on
accHOWENT of YOU ABUSE HIM. Here's your own
POSTED CASE HISTORY of ABUSING YOUR DEATHLY
ILL KAT <(@}:* ~ ( >
From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 4 Apr 2005 12:06:22 -0700
Subject: Re: Vomiting cat
My sincere thanks to everybody for their suggestions!
Charley was at the vet about a month ago for neutering and received a
clean bill of health at that time. If his behavior had changed I might
be concerned about a new illness, but he's incredibly energetic.
As it is, I do feed him some canned food twice day--it was my
understanding the free feed of dry and with twice daily servings of the
wet was supposed to be best for kittens. However, Charley wakes up
before I do and wolfs down the dry chow. Then I wake up to a
"present".
From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 19 Dec 2005 09:40:48 -0800
Subject: Cat acts fine, but is hardly eating
My 1 year old neutered male is acting as playful and active as usual,
but for the past 24 hours has had little interest in food. He has
eaten small amounts, but much less than his usual chow hound behavior.
If it weren't for the significant decrease in appetite I wouldn't even
begin to think that anything could be wrong. He's alert, playful,
active, and so far pooping the same amount. It's the first time he's
ever been disinterested in food though.
Is this natural? Like just a mood?
Thanks! Michelle
============
Yeah. IT'S CALLED STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE
aka The Pussy Wizard's Syndrome <(@}:* ~ ( >
===========
From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com
Date: 3 Apr 2005 18:32:04 -0700
Subject: Vomiting cat
My cat, Charley, is 6 months old, energetic, and by all accounts
healthy. However, lately he's begun vomiting in the morning after he
first eats his kitten chow. I think what is happening is that he
snarfs it down, drinks some water, then the kitten chow expands in his
stomach, and up it comes. Although it is rare, he's done it other
times in of the day. All occurrences seem to happen when he's not
eaten in awhile (although I leave kitten chow available to him 24/7).
Charley does not seem sick in the least. Just wondered if anyone else
had experience with this? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Michelle
From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 30 Oct 2005 11:12:05 -0800
Subject: Re: How do I "set back" Amber?
I've recently learned that my cat, Charley, is psychic. You see, I
just wasn't giving him the message the right way. He was fond of
meowing, not only in the morning, but whenever it suited his fancy,
which could be anywhere from 1-3AM. He thought that would be a great
time for me to get up and play.
I decided he needed some negative reinforcement, so when he meowed
in the middle of the night, I nailed him with my feather pillow.
I did it two nights in a row and wondered how long I'd have to
give the lesson. ON the 3rd night, as I lay down, I kept up the
mantra in my head. "Keep your mouth shut or I'm going to get you
with the pillow"
Charley hasn't meowed in the middle of the night since.
So now I don't have to throw the pillow, I just have to think about it.
Michelle (Yes, I can hear the Twilight Zone music ;-)
====================
YOU BEEN TAKIN YOUR ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS???
YOU BEEN TAKIN YOUR ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS ON TIME???
YOU BEEN TAKIN YOUR ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS ON TIME WITH A LITTLE
FOOD???
YOU GOTTA FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OR THEY WON'T WORK!!!
====================
From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 30 Apr 2005 11:36:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Cats' growing "intelligence" as they age.
LOL! Oh yes, and then there are the times Charley decides to be onery,
doing things he knows he's not supposed to do, but when I go and get
the squirt bottle to give him a reminder lesson, I come back to find
him acting totally civilized and innocent--before he's seen what I
brought with me. Hmmmm.
From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 9 Oct 2005 12:01:47 -0700
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
At least I know that I'm not alone concerning Charley's fetish about
closed doors. :-) I suspect that our lack of a clear cut schedule
exacerbates the issue, as IBen pointed out. And lots of times, he is
segregated in a room with all of his needs met, except for his desire
to be out and about. However, I may try the catnip. And we are trying
very hard to ignore him when he throws a fit--but gee, he can be
persistent.
From: "IBen Getiner" <Lappc...@aol.com>
Date: 9 Oct 2005 02:03:30 -0700
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
Put Charles in his own room. Deck it out with everything he might need.
Put the fan on when it's hot.. Lot's of food and water. Make sure the
window's open for his pleasure. But SEGREGATE his noise busy little azz
from YOU. He'z a simple animal, and you're trying to rest, for Christ's
sake! IBen
From: Joe Canuck <Joe.Can...@-remove-gmail.com> -
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:24:13 -0400
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
Yes, I have one almost the same except for throwing the hissy fit. And
it is not just doors that humans are behind... it is ANY closed door.
The condition is incurable. :)
From: "Gail" <g...@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 22:13:05 GMT
Local: Fri, Oct 7 2005 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
I have two cats like this, also. They are indignant when
someone closes them out of a room. They are both spoiled
rotten!!
Gail
From: "Space" <s...@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:16:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
same here - i think with my cats it is a case of "the grass is always
greener", or a duvet is softer behind the closed door
From: jmc <NOnewsgroupsS...@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus>
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:19:40 +0100
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
Suddenly, without warning, Joe Canuck exclaimed (07-Oct-05 11:24 PM):
> Yes, I have one almost the same except for throwing the hissy fit. And
> it is not just doors that humans are behind... it is ANY closed door.
> The condition is incurable. :)
Yea, mine's like that too. If you let her in to the room with the
closed door, and close the door behind her, usually she'll be
immediately wanting out :)
From: 5cats <5...@fake-email.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:40:05 -0500
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
I have a spoiled brat named Charlie too. He's usually willing to lay
quietly on my stomach or on my feet if I nap during the day.
Maybe you could distract your Charley with food or catnip right before
you go to sleep? It might keep him occupied for a few minutes at least.
If you react in any way to the hissy fit, it's reinforcing the
behavior.
I'd lock him in a room with food, water, litter, far enough away that
the napper can nap, then completely ignore him till he quiets down. If
when let out, he goes immediately to the door to harrass the napper, he
goes right back into isolation. Do this consistently every time, he
should learn. Sometimes he'll need reinforcement.
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From: "Barb" <bguzz...@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:34:24 -0500
Subject: Re: cat offended by closed doors
Doors should not be closed in the home of a cat.
Charley wants to come in and he may talk for a
while when you want to take a nap but his real
plan is to lie beside you or on you and take a
nap, too.
--
Barb
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HOWE COMEYOU DON'T WANT TO BE NICE to your kat?
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From: "bookbug2005" <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 Apr 2005 11:17:47 -0700
Subject: Re: Bad news
Imo, it sucks to hunt anything for mere sport--and this is taking that
proposition over the top.
But even if lawmakers don't share my outrage at the concept, can't they
see, it's just going to cause major conflicts between people. How long
before someone shoots someone pet? And if the petowner has no legal
recourse, how long before he assaults the person who did it? (Probably
fatally.) Or suppose you get some stupid teenager with gun who decides
to go cat hunting in his neighborhood and ends up shooting another kid?
My point is that even if they don't give a damn about the cats, they
can't possibly be so stupid as to be unable to imagine these unintended
consequences.
Michelle
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Jason James - 18 Jan 2006 17:47 GMT
HOWEDY Jason,
Jason James wrote:
> <TheAmazingPussyWizard@HushMail.Com> wrote in message
> news:1137527160.572256.109770@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>
> Nice theory about stress related disease,
Theories are UNPROVEN suppHOWESITIONS <{) : ~ ) >
Animal Behavior Sciences Forensic Research PROVES IT
using CASE HISTORY DATA and 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL REHABILITATION of
ALL temperament and behavior problems by simply DOIN
EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of
HOWE the self proclaimed EXXXPERTS and university
trained behaviorists teach us to do to HOWER critters.
Dogs kats kids an ladies are VERY SENSITIVE critters:
"Our Misty (spayed male 5yo), hates his front or baxk paws to be
touched, even accidently. He'll go for a quick strike with his mouth
which hurts usually,..while Fatso is much more tolerant,...he'll
started opening his mouth and play "trying to bite you" to convey
he has had enough.
They're all different. Best o luck," Jason
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The SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR AIN'T LUCK, Jason.
> but an illusion except for the most serious of cases.
No, Jason. So called traditioinal trainin is the ILLUSION AS
EVIDENCED BY YOUR OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY <{) : ~ ) >
> All living things need stress to proceed with their life
Just makin it through the day is ENOUGH stress, Jason,
TRUST The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) : ~ ) >
> and to act as a warning of impending injury or death.
THAT'S HOWER JOB, not THEIRS, Jason. WE got the
RESPONSIBILITY to PROTECT and SERVE HOWER
gentle tender lovin critters <{) : ~ ) >
Like grieving, for EXXXAMPLE. We can't allHOWE HOWER
critters to tough it HOWET on their own using treats as sub-
stitutes for their pal. To cure fretting all we gotta do is TALK
to HOWER critters abHOWET their deceased pals, mentioning
their names and talkin abHOWET them usin words they'd
associate with them.
> Who said that "each organism spends it life reacting to
> discomfort (stress) to attain comfort" or a variation of that
> paraphrase?
You mean life is tough enough just makin it through the day?
The Amazing Puppy Wizard is HIGHLY UNEDUCATED, Jason.
Perhaps we can ask a EXXXPERT like professor of ANAL-ytic
behaviorISM at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE And SCREAM
"NO!" Into ITS Face For FIVE SECONDS And Lock IT In A Box
For Ten Minutes Contemplation" dermer. He's studied EVERYWON
else's work and can cite you chapter an verse, verbatum <{) ; ~ ) >
HOWEver, that not withstanding, fully 90% of ALL DISEASES are
so called iatrogenic / idiopathic / STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE
DYSFUNCTION aka The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{) ; ~ ) >
And ALL temperament and behavior problems are CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING therefore can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY <{) ; ~ ) >
THAT'S BEEN PROVEN RIGHT HERE, Jason <{) ; ~ ) >.
> In the end the equation of life remains unchanged ie organism responds to
> stimulous to divide and hence grow,. a sick person uses the effort of the
> carer to sustain their life. That sustenance is debited from the carer,..the
> equation remains unchanged....
Kinda like a simbiotic relationship, eh Jason?
"Familiarity breeds CONTEMPT":
Your kats WANT to be PALS but they're AFRAID of TRUSTING.
You sez:
"In any case a kitten allowed to socialise with an older
cat is not always the best thing until the kitten is
older."