Well everyone this is the last time I'm coming on this site... thanks to
everyone that has helped and just to let everyone know cat # 2 is doing great!
Thanks to you Alison. You have been the most help and for that I am very
grateful! He is now loose in the house not attacking anyone and hasn't got
into any fights with any other cats. He is still a little skittish but that's
with all cats in a new home. When we first rescued him we were just going to
keep him for a while until we found him a new and good home, but seeing how
much trouble he had just adjusting to us we've decided to keep him instead of
letting him go though the same fight with other people that might hurt him!
As for my little orange cat, she's still very very mean but I've given it a
lot of thought and I love her just the way she is... like me =) She's just
feisty and needs more attention then the others or in some cases less
attention. I've also thought that I might just go ahead and get her soft paws
and keep her in my room away from the other cats. That should give the other
cats in the house a break since she does have them all afraid of her even
though she's half, if not less, their size. =) but thanks once again Alison,
Tracyrose, NMR, and anyone else that has actually tried to help! (You know
who you are) Have a great year oh and thanks for the typing lessons cybercat
I honestly don’t know if I could have gone on though life typing like I was
if it wasn’t for you! =) Bye All!!
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> Alison
Now you're here, you might as well stay and pick up some more info:)
It can be rough on unmoderated newsgroups but some people here are
very knowledgeable and their help will be invaluable.
If you don't feel you can ask more questions, do a search on google
and look
up old posts.
http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/deja_announcement.html
That is a good idea to keep the little ginger cat separated for a
while , it will give
her a break too. If there is a lot of aggression between cats then the
usual advice is to separate them and slowly re introduced them ,
first by smell and then visual .
Feliway diffusers can help relax cats and chill out, they're expensive
but it might be worth trying them.

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> Well everyone this is the last time I'm coming on this site... thanks to
> everyone that has helped and just to let everyone know cat # 2 is doing great!
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> who you are) Have a great year oh and thanks for the typing lessons cybercat
> I honestly don't know if I could have gone on though life typing
like I was
> if it wasn't for you! =) Bye All!!
> oh and thanks for the typing lessons cybercat
> I honestly don't know if I could have gone on though life typing like I
was
> if it wasn't for you! =) Bye All!!
You're welcome, luvbrat. You have made tremendous progress, good for you.
HOWEDY luvbrat8282,
> Well everyone this is the last time I'm coming on this site...
DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS luvbrat8282.
> thanks to everyone that has helped
You mean the MENTAL CASES.
> and just to let everyone know cat # 2 is doing great!
Do tell?
> Thanks to you Alison.
alison is a lying animal abusing congenital idiot.
> You have been the most help and for that I am very grateful!
You mean she told you your critters are AFRAID of you PUNISHING them.
> He is now loose in the house not attacking anyone and hasn't
> got into any fights with any other cats. He is still a little
> skittish but that's with all cats in a new home.
Do tell?
> When we first rescued him we were just going to keep him
> for a while until we found him a new and good home, but
> seeing how much trouble he had just adjusting to us we've
> decided to keep him instead of letting him go though the
> same fight with other people that might hurt him!
You STILL didn't get no TRAININ advice, luvbrat8282.
> As for my little orange cat,
PROBLEMO.
> she's still very very mean
Evidently alison DIDN'T GET THE MESSAGE across to you.
Your kitty kat IS AFRAID, not MEAN, luvbrat8282.
> but I've given it a lot of thought and I love her just the way she is...
She's AFRAID AGGRESSIVE and DERRANGED.
> like me =)
Ooops <{); ~ ) >
> She's just feisty
NO. She's AFRAID.
> and needs more attention
You mean bribes.
> then the others or in some cases less attention.
That's ABSURD. Your kitty kat is a PSYCHOPATH.
> I've also thought that I might just go ahead and get
> her soft paws and keep her in my room away from the
> other cats.
On accHOWENT of NO WON TOLD YOU HOWE TO TRAIN YOUR KAT.
> That should give the other cats in the house a break
> since she does have them all afraid of her even though
> she's half, if not less, their size. =)
YOU GOT IT BACKWARDS.
The AGGRESSOR is ALWAYS THE MOST FEARFUL luvbrat8282.
> but thanks once again Alison,
alison MISLED you INTENTIONALLY.
> Tracyrose, NMR,
The link NMR sent you LOOKS EXXXCELLENT but if you
READ IT you'll SEE it's BULLSHIT. He's a BLOWHARD
who CONTRADICTS EVERY THING HE SEZ and the EXXXPERT
veterinary advice quoted was ABYSMAL. HOWEver, the
article on declawing was acceptable.
> and anyone else that has actually tried to help!
If you GOT any HEELP your kat wouldn't be a PSYCHO.
> (You know who you are)
INDEEDY. They're the lying animal abusing punk thug
coward mental cases who criticized you for doin WHAT
THEY DO and witheld the ONLY EFFECTIVE INFORMATION
and METHODS to TRAIN your kats to FEEL SAFE and SECURE:
<{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
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<{#}: ~ } > http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's
And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
> Have a great year oh and thanks for the typing lessons cybercat
> I honestly don't know if I could have gone on though life typing
> like I was if it wasn't for you! =) Bye All!!
NHOWE you got the INFORMATION you need.
Here's a dog your pal alison wanted to MURDER:
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should
Always Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They
Should NEVER FEEL GUILTY For Having An
Aggressive Dog Euthanized."
From: Seeing Spots \(Val\) (Holme...@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: Dear Wits End
Date: 2002-06-04 18:19:07 PST
HEY!!!
There is a Valid Valerie with a REAL Dalmatian
who is a real sweet dog with a few issues that I
am working to resolve after adopting her from a
shelter she spent 2 years in.
All I want is to get some decent help for my dog.
There is some decent stuff in Jerry's manual.
My dog has ACTUALLY been responding to
her training. The deal is you have to seperate
your opinions and impressions from the guy
who is writing these posts and take from the
manual what you want.
Personally, I get a pretty good chuckle out of
the whole Jerry thing. I have to say the guy
is pretty clever, you're letting him get under
your skin.
It makes for a very amusing game I think.
I'm sure he would agree, or he wouldn't be playing
everyday. He also wouldn't be playing if he didn't
believe that his method of training weren't valid.
Perhaps I'll learn from my mistakes, but so far,
using the Wits' End, I have gotten my dalmatian
to listen to me, to look to me for direction, to wait
for me to say when.
I have changed her from an aggressive dog to
one who is willing to please her owner, willing
to listen, willing to assume her role in the pack.
The real Valerie M. Holmes speaking
P.s. Jerry, don't get any ideas about morphing
into me, ok?
From: BNTDO...@aol.com
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should
Always Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They
Should NEVER FEEL GUILTY For Having An
Aggressive Dog Euthanized."
Dear Jerry,
It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are
that maligning you and your training manual but
tell them from me that it does work.
Hunter is just doing so well even the people who
advocated putting him down are impressed with him.
I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went
over there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling
at him for growling at me.
I told her to tell him what a good boy he is instead.
Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could do his
nails. All 4 feet.
My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull
method and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter
has gotten his enthusiasm back for his training and I
couldn't be more pleased.
He even tried to kiss a child the other day.
Major break through.
This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat
the kids through the fence. I can now take him in
the car with me again without him trying to chase
cars through the windshield.
So Jerry tell these people that the first rule
of dog training is Do No Harm.
The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule.
Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down.
Hunter was diagnosed aggressive and he is going
to stay alive and by my side where he belongs.
Thank you so much.
Kay
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