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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2006Ping Phil P or anyone that could help
Phil or everyone else I got a question for you My furball rumble is epileptic as you know. He gets a depo shot when he gets what they call the itches; where he starts to dig and lick his fur off. Is there any natural product or OTC solution that is safe so I can use for him in between getting him to the vet for another shot. FYI he takes 2x 2mg of diazepam everyday Thanks up front everyone and Phil and Happy holidays to all > Phil or everyone else I got a question for you My furball rumble is > epileptic as you know. He gets a depo shot when he gets what they call the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > FYI he takes 2x 2mg of diazepam everyday Matthew, my cat has the same thing, and the doctor said I can use antihistamine--specifically the one called Chlortrimeton or its generic--at the rate of 2 mgs (half a tab) every twelve hours. HOWEVER--she is not on diazepam so ask your vet about interactions. All she is on is Depo. > Phil or everyone else I got a question for you My furball rumble is > epileptic as you know. He gets a depo shot when he gets what they call the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > FYI he takes 2x 2mg of diazepam everyday I don't know of any 'natural' epileptic drugs, but I would sure get him off diazepam- quick if not sooner! Diazepam is well know for causing liver failure in cats. Speak to your vet about phenobarbital- its the first choice drug for seizure disorders in cats. An omega-3 supplement might help his skin problems. Best of luck, Phil Rumble is allergic to Phenobarbital it almost killed him he began to become lethargic, would not stop digging until he ripped flesh out and would not eat or move except to go to the bathroom. We have been fighting this disease for 3 years now he is seizure free for 2 of those 3 years. I get a full workup every six months specially the liver test to make sure everything is fine in fact I am waiting for the results to come in. My vet is up to date for the epilepsy. When rumble became epileptic he went back to school just to get updated ( he is a family friend ) He has recommended a oatmeal based product to use I forgot the name but it is so messy and smelly that the cat runs when I get it out. What I was asking is when he scratches what natural stuff or OTC product can I put on where he scratched for open places. I am looking for what is safe and what others have used. I have used Vaseline before but he licks it off and I don't want him licking when I am trying to prevent him from licking more fur off. When he gets his depo shot he stops immediately and is good from 4 to 8 months so far Thanks for replying >> Phil or everyone else I got a question for you My furball rumble is >> epileptic as you know. He gets a depo shot when he gets what they call [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Phil > Rumble is allergic to Phenobarbital it almost killed him he began to become > lethargic, would not stop digging until he ripped flesh out and would not [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks for replying Topical preps can be a problem especially if the cat can reach the spot with his tongue or if you have other cats that will lick it off. I can't really recommend any topical preps other than CortiCalm Cream (Hydrocortisone 1%). It might work if you can rub enough of it in without irritating his skin and wipe off any residue so he doesn't ingest very much. Since its a steroid, you'll want to avoid ingestion as much as possible. You might also want to try a vitamin E/omega-3 oil prep such as DVM Derm Caps- both orally and topically. Speak to your vet about these products. Have you tried a food elimination trial or Hill's z/d to rule out food allergy? How about cleaning products? Do you use rug shampoos or floor cleaners? If you have carpets, you might want to try a carpet sealer- some cats develop contact allergies to the chemicals in the fibers or backing or adhesive that holds the fibers to the backing. Best of luck, Phil I appreciate all that Phil we ruled out an allergy. It is something that epileptic get where they want to scratch their skin according to the specialist. I have had him to specialist after specialist even traveled to the vet training center in where they train Vet in specializing in as I call it exotic cat diseases. my vet even went back to school to get training in epilepsy. I am lucky if he does not know the answer he picks up the phone and calls who does no hesitation. I had him to a couple cat behaviorist, 2 allergist and all the bells and whistles have been done. He is the million dollar kitty; the vet bills have been over $10,000 so far ** FOR FYI He fired that vet tech for his rough handling of rumble it was his second complaint. My vet said if I am complaining he knows something is wrong** I have changed every cleaning product in the house. I actually ripped up all the carpet and went to hardwood and tiled floors for that reason of the chemicals on the carpet. I had the house professionally decontaminated everything got pulled out and scrubbed. I am lucky I have the money to spend to rule out all the possible problems. All the vet people recommend is that oatmeal based product or home remedy Vaseline. None recommend any OTC products just for that reason of steroids or possible poisoning. My vet is doing his best not to have to put rumble on steroids unless the diazepam starts to affect the liver or kidneys. I was hoping you or someone had heard of a product that was safe for if ingested with all the new products coming out. It is hard to keep up I will ask my vet about "vitamin E/omega-3 oil prep such as DVM Derm Caps" I know we were giving him a multiple vitamin for a while; I would have to pull out his chart and look. We stopped it it was not having any real effect as much as the simple depo shot does. Maybe the simplest solution is the best. I know when he needs one he starts to scratch hard and becomes over groomy and away he goes gets the shot and stops for 4 to 8 months so far. I was looking for something I could put on the wounds in between seeing he needs to go and getting him into he vet. I am happy to announce we have no had a seizure in over 2 years now YEAH Thanks for your responses Phil you are always a great help Matthew > is the million dollar kitty; the vet bills have been over $10,000 so far are we pussy whipped? yes we are are we loving it? you know we do Yes and proud of it >> is the million dollar kitty; the vet bills have been over $10,000 so far > > are we pussy whipped? > yes we are > are we loving it? > you know we do
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